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[GregB0Participant]

TaxGuy wrote:

GregB0 wrote:

As discussed in several previous posts regardinug the impeachment process, this was inevitable. This will by no means obtain a conviction after the trial process, but that is not the point of impeachment. It’s about grabbing the media when you have no other means to do so.

Agreed. I’m more interested in the timing. Why now? Does it eat up all of July, and then the Dem’s go on vacation for August even if the Republicans vote to stay in DC? health care and taxes. They’ve been on the table longer.”

At first glance I would say wait for the impeachment until next year, closer to the next election. I’m just wondering what I’m missing here.

If you or I could fundamentally answer this question with fact based certainty, we would be able to write our own paycheck.

Until PistolPete or another political theorist answers I will offer my 2cents:
I believe that you are basically correct in suggesting that starting impeachment proceedings now with no real chance of obtaining an indictment is about building a case for next year and stalling legislation in the short term to also bolster 2018 campaign rhetoric.

The Russian news may have been the straw that finally pushed the indictment out, but it will continue to be supported by other issues along the way. Keeping the president in the news and linked to three “Notorious” Former presidents can only help the Dems in 2018. The proceedings can easily last into next year and then step two could be played.

If the President’s approval rating stays low, the Dems may try to make noise about “vote us in and give us the majority and we’ll will vote him out”

With the Republican base pulling out all stops to support the President, neither can really go hard in trying to pass legislation. No legislation and an indictment would be seen as an one two punch by the DNC, with the opportunity for more damage later.

With no real contenders available for President, they can only attempt to take down Trump and then go after Pence and GOP leadership.

Russia, Health care, taxes, immigration, what ever, its about continuing to built negative opinions about the Predident and by extension the GOP. No or slow legislation only hurts the party in the majority.

If the GOP remains fractured and divisive, then you could have the Freedom Caucus or others asking for concessions in 2018 or 2020. Another potential win for dems.

Not passing significant legislation on GOP 2016 campaign planks could easily support weak DNC candidates.

The dems cannot build anything sizable for 2018 on merits, but building their platform on a lot of little things could build a bigger foundation to act as a spring board.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Ranger OneParticipant]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

Daryll55 wrote:

Unless the laws have been changed;The PATRIOT ACT (WHO named this law), will only allow you to take 8,000 USD abroad when travelling.

Should have called it the Dred Scott Act.

I appreciate the history nod. Good s~~~!

Dude I think your plan is pretty damn epic!

I would love to see this s~~~ on the news!

$90,000 in gold is only about 4 pounds of metal. Other possibilities would be leaving the US via Mexico (taking a few chosen person effects in the truck and cleverly hidden gold) or shipping it to an intermediate place in S. America short of my final destination then traveling to there.

If no deaths results, no real destruction, and one slave leaves the plantation with $90,000 in gold and vanishes in South America, its not like they are going to send SEAL Team 6 after you. Not quite as epic as DB Cooper I know, but they were actually motivated to try and find that.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant]

CombatRoll wrote:

Sounds like a helluva a plan. These are the things that go through my mind daily. Glad to know I’m not the only one.

And note, my original Plan Psi did not involve buying gold with credit cards… it was a planned 3-year process to get Paraguayan citizenship (probably the most practical and easy for Americans) but I realized the time table was not soon enough.

I might start pursuing that again even when the divorce is final, as a fallback contingency for something unforeseen going wrong in the future. It can’t hurt to have passports from TWO countries, especially since a US passport could be confiscated by court order.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Jim01Participant]

blade wrote:

These boys are our ultiginas that will be running s~~~ . They are from a prestigious boys high school . F~~~in disgusting little pussy beggers . They deserved this . I hope they get on a plane and that s~~~ goes down like in final destination . Imagine one of these little c~~~s been a family court judge . This has got to be there birthing place . Chads from public where are you .

These girls will be taking these ultiginas s~~~ in the future and f~~~ing chad for sure .

These boys are so f~~~in perthetic looking little simps . Just look at them . Look at em . I cant stop laughing . Lmfao .

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LOL awesome Blade!

and that video doesn’t surprise me – in the UK private schools are famous for all of the boys getting bummed by the older boys(I would imagine it is the same in Australia). They all look like the types who have experienced it and are a bunch of simp f~~s

These boys are our ultiginas that will be running s~~~ . They are from a prestigious boys high school . F~~~in disgusting little pussy beggers . They deserved this . I hope they get on a plane and that s~~~ goes down like in final destination . Imagine one of these little c~~~s been a family court judge . This has got to be there birthing place . Chads from public where are you .

These girls will be taking these ultiginas s~~~ in the future and f~~~ing chad for sure .

These boys are so f~~~in perthetic looking little simps . Just look at them . Look at em . I cant stop laughing . Lmfao .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

Everyone,

It’s been over two years, with many twists and turns, moments of despair and hope, and the first of many red pills. But my divorce is now finalized. Just got back from vacation and got an email from my lawyer with the final decree of dissolution from the judge. And yes… as I’ve mentioned before a number of times, the parenting plan (which I wrote up completely) says that I get 100% physical custody of my two kids (she gets visitation). My ex and I filed our divorce as a joint petition, which means we didn’t have to go to court and file against each other or anything. And I don’t have to pay her any alimony or child support or pay any of her debts.

In short: I got my kids, I got my money, and I got my whole life ahead of me (I’m 32 years old). Unc~~~ed, permanently.

I realize that my case is absurdly rare. I attribute that to a few factors. She didn’t want the kids, and she’s in love with her “new” life of c~~~ carousel, and realized that she didn’t have money to fight me even if she wanted to. Also, I quietly documented all the abuse and threats she subjected me to over the past two years, and then let her know that I’ve been documenting everything. As dumb as she is, I think she realized this wasn’t something she wanted to fight, especially since I offered her the life she thinks she wants.

This is just a part of the saga of bulls~~~ I’ve experienced over the last ten years that has led me to MGTOW. I’m still thinking about how to share it all without saying too much and revealing my identity, but I just wanted to post something happy here. I’m officially divorced, and free.

Cheers, brothers.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[PuniShredderParticipant]

IRuleMe wrote:

BrainPilot wrote:

They still don’t get it. You can f~~~ like a whore, or guard it like a nun. Same with the way you dress. you can cook like a 5 star gourmet chef. You can agree with everything I ever say.

I AM NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE THE STATE TO ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF MY ASSETS, MAKE ME EXPENDABLE FROM MY OWN HOME AND THE LIVES OF ANY CHILDREN I HAVE, AND RECEND A BIG PORTION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WITH A SINGLE PHONE CALL.

How do I say this so they can finally understand it?

I’m not signing if you f~~~ me. And I’m not signing if you don’t f~~~ me.
I’m not signing if you feed me. And I’m not signing if you don’t feed me.
I’m not signing if you dress like a woman. And I’m not signing if you dress like a man.
I’m not signing if you agree with me. And I’m not signing if you disagree with me.

The millennials won’t get this next part, but women my age probably will:

I am not signing with green eggs and ham…!

I will not marry you I said
I will not marry for some head
I will not marry on a plane
I will not marry, you are lame
I will not marry, that is that
So begone woman, take your cat

Hahahahaha!!!! I almost spit out my coffee!!!

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

Rapo

In his groundbreaking book on transactional analysis, Dr. Eric Berne describes a game called “rapo”, where a chick comes on to a guy sexually and then when he responds rejects him in a humiliating way. See above link. In less sophisticated circles, this is known as the “dick tease”. Feminists refer to our society as a “rape culture”. Well, I’ve never raped anyone, but I’ve been “rapo”ed countless times. I think it would be more accurate to refer to our culture (at least here in California) as a “rapo” culture. I’ve been “rapo”ed so many times I’ve lost count. And that’s ALL I ever get! The few chicks I have dated in California were users, rip-off artists, they all used me for money and stabbed me in the back. I’ve never met anyone out here who cares about me or loves me.

I met one chick in San Francisco named Hannah. (Names NOT CHANGED! Let the guilty suffer! I don’t give a f~~~!) I asked her if she wanted to have coffee with me and she said “yes”. As soon as we sat down she started making dirty jokes. She made a really graphic blow job joke and then looked me in the eye and smiled. The sexual intent was obvious. As we continued talking she told me about her house and the garden she was growing behind it. She suggested that I come over some time. “We could have breakfast together…I could show you the garden…” The idea of us having breakfast together had an obvious sexual connation that wasn’t lost on me. I talked to her about my life as a street performer (I’ve been a street performer in California since 1998). “I travel around the country spreading laughter and joy…” I offered, explaining my lifestyle. “Traveling around, spreading laughter and joy? I’ve always wanted to do something like that…” she replied.

I perked up. It sounded like she wanted to be my girlfriend and share my lifestyle. After we finished talking we exchanged phone numbers and went our separate ways. I called her several times after that conversation and all I ever got was an answering machine, always an answering machine. Finally, it dawned on me that this was a big dick tease, I had been played. The coffe shop where we met was covered in corny California “progressive” slogans like “Remember Who You Wanted to Be” and Arms are for Hugging”, “Smiles are Free”, etc, etc, Funny how Californians always pretend to be “progressive” while engaging in the most manipulative, predatory behavior possible. Yeah, California’s progressive, so is cancer!

Another chick I met around this time called herself “Bird”. Like so many chicks I’ve met out here, it was she, not myself that initiated the relationship by bringing a cup of coffee to me while I was performing on the street. Another time she bought me a piece of banana nut bread. Finally, one day, we had a cup of coffee together and got to know each other. Like me, she was into DIY media and she produced her own zine. She liked my street show and we were fans of a lot of the same writer and artists and generally speaking, seemed to hit it off pretty well. A couple of weeks later, I saw her through the glass window of the resturaunt where she worked. (She worked as a cashier.) I went in and said “hi”. She told me about a “chili cook-off” at a place called the “Anarchist Center”. She said she was going to be one of the people cooking the chili and that if I wanted to hang out, I should come by about 7:00. Around 6:45 I followed the directions she had given me and got to the “Anarchist Center” about 7:00. There was indeed a chili cook-off, but she was nowhere to be seen. The whole thing had been a bum steer to get rid of me. Although this was confusing, because she was the one who initiated the relationship, not me. I had also never said anything romantic to her or tried to make any sexual advances. I saw us as merely friends. I think she realized she had told a “whopper”, because she never looked me in the eye again. I stayed in an anarchist “squat” where she lived for like a week once after that and every time she saw me she got really embarrassed. She would look in the other direction or sit with her back to me everytime I was around. If she was going to feel so uncomfortable about lying to me, then why did she do it? If she didn’t want to hang out with me, then why did she initiate the relationship in the first place? She also identified herself at different times as a “hippy” and an “anarchist”. I thought the hippy movement was based on a “search for the truth”. And anarchy is defined as “a perfect co-operative society with no central authority.” I wanted to ask her, “If you’re a ‘hippy’ and an ‘anarchist’, and you’re working towards a better world, why did you lie to me in the first conversation?” In the South, where I’m from , people who identify themselves as “hippies” and “anarchists” are serious about their beliefs. They’ve brought REAL alternative values into their lives in an attempt to make a difference. In California, it’s just a big fantasy, a bunch of bulls~~~.

I was with a chick named Lexine recently and she started laying a big “rapo” game on me, coming on to me and saying that she wanted to spend more time with me and wanted me to call her etc., etc. Later, when she was changing clothes, (I was at a BDSM “dungeon” party). She came out of the changing area wearing no shirt, but a bra, and still chatting with me casually ass if there was nothing unusual about walking around with no shirt, just wearing a bra. (Lexine has big t~~~ and she’s definitely a 10! She’s well aware of the effect her body has on guys!) A few minutes later she came out of the dressing area again. She had put a shirt on, but now had no skirt, and was walking around, still casually chatting, wearing nothing but a shirt and panties. A few days later, I called her and got an answering machine and she never got back to me. I started realizing this was another game. A few months later, I was in Arkansas and I decided to try her again. Again, I got an answering machine and no response. When I got back to California I ran into her again and she apologized and said she had “lost my number.” The “I lost your number routine (along with some of it’s variations such as “My phone is broken”, “I was sick”, etc, etc.) has been used on me so many times that it’s nothing but a bad joke at this point. Lexine is another pathetic “rapo” player.

This is the type of behavior I’ve experienced since moving to California, and this is ALL I’ve ever experienced. Apparently the chicks here (the good looking ones anyway, I could probably bang a fat chick) are not interested in meeting a guy and getting to know him, they are only interested in the dick tease. Can anyone explain this strange behavior? (And don’t try to tell me to become and “alpha male”, I am an “alpha male”! The women out here don’t want an alpha male, they date losers and alcoholics and guys who beat them up! See my post: MGTOW forums/Myth of the Alpha Male)

People have given me different explanations. A psychologist told me that people in California are “afraid of intimacy” and that they would rather have a fantasy than a real relationship. Other people have told me that California is all about money and that chicks here want to meet a rich guy. (The chick in the anarchist squat was not trying to meet a rich guy.) From reading MGTOW and other men’s right literature, I’ve gotten the idea that feminists have taught women to hate men. None of these explanations are completely satisfactory to me. I’m open to suggestions, can anyone help me understand what I call “Rapo Culture”?

[IRuleMeParticipant]

BrainPilot wrote:

They still don’t get it. You can f~~~ like a whore, or guard it like a nun. Same with the way you dress. you can cook like a 5 star gourmet chef. You can agree with everything I ever say.

I AM NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE THE STATE TO ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF MY ASSETS, MAKE ME EXPENDABLE FROM MY OWN HOME AND THE LIVES OF ANY CHILDREN I HAVE, AND RECEND A BIG PORTION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WITH A SINGLE PHONE CALL.

How do I say this so they can finally understand it?

I’m not signing if you f~~~ me. And I’m not signing if you don’t f~~~ me.
I’m not signing if you feed me. And I’m not signing if you don’t feed me.
I’m not signing if you dress like a woman. And I’m not signing if you dress like a man.
I’m not signing if you agree with me. And I’m not signing if you disagree with me.

The millennials won’t get this next part, but women my age probably will:

I am not signing with green eggs and ham…!

I will not marry you I said
I will not marry for some head
I will not marry on a plane
I will not marry, you are lame
I will not marry, that is that
So begone woman, take your cat

[Anonymous]

Frances leader Holladnde tried a 75% tax and it was such a disaster it had to be repealed. Famous actors moved out of France because of it.

The called it “Cuba without the Sun”.

François Hollande’s unpopular tax changes that imposed a 75% rate on earnings above €1m (£780,000) will quietly disappear into the history books from Thursday.

The French socialist president announced plans for the controversial measure during his 2012 election campaign as a means of forcing the wealthiest to help dig the country out of economic crisis.

Although supported by the left, the reform sparked accusations of an anti-business agenda. After the “supertax” was announced in September 2012 the government was accused of shooting itself in the foot by risking an exodus of high-profile personalities. Business leaders expressed fears that investors would pull out of France.

France’s richest man, Bernard Arnault, the chief executive of luxury group LVMH, took out Belgian nationality, and the actor Gérard Depardieu also moved across the border to Belgium before obtaining Russian citizenship.

High-earning French footballers threatened strike action, while league bosses warned they would no longer be able to attract world class players.

A majority of French taxpayers disapproved of the 75% rate, although polls showed that six out of 10 voters were in favour of raising income taxes on the wealthy.

Despite the backlash Hollande clung to the principle of the supertax even after it was dismissed by the country’s highest court, fearing a revolt by his leftwing allies. The tax was subsequently adjusted to a 50% rate payable by companies after the constitutional council ruling in December 2012.

The final nail in the coffin came from the former investment banker who is now France’s economy minister, Emmanuel Macron. A former economic adviser to Hollande, Macron described the supertax as “Cuba without the sun”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/france-drops-75percent-supertax

[UntamedParticipant]

joetech wrote:

Where have all the good men gone? All the good ones are taken, remember? Theey’re at MGTOW laughing at your silly, skanky ass!

Laughing our asses off and showing them up for the miserable C~~~S they are. They thought they were gonna party when Men are “finally” under their thumbs. Little did they know that we’d figure out their asses are useless and dangerous and we’d walk off their Plantation.

So how’s the punch after I spit in it, bitches? Actually it’s not spit, it’s – well, you must recognize the taste since you’re all professional knob-polishers.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Big BossParticipant]

MarketWatcher wrote:

Well for those who have been following my work from hell situation. I just found out that I did not get the management job I have spent the last month pursuing. That is 3 no’s in a row. All from female HR of course.

My battle with the post wall c~~~s continues and I have found a lawyer to represent me in my discrimination case. The beat goes on.

I’ve have a worse streak. Been going on for 5+ years. I’ve applied to another job I’m qualified for this week. I stopped crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. Now it’s just like showing I’m making an honest effort in order to gather evidence in case I decide to sue my organization (local gov organization). Because I will be frank, I’m not a dramatic guy, I am patient, easy going, understanding, experienced, smart, work whenever requested, and affable I can tell and understand when a better candidate was selected over me. Below average pay doesn’t bother me because I am great with money (Have two life insurance accounts and retirement building up) if I know I can work my way up the ladder.

What p~~~es me off however is unethical, unprofessional, bias behavior and people flat out cheating me that actually effects my personal life. I have seen hard evidence that there is internal bias and shenanigans going on which really bothers me. Think about it, what is the point of getting another degree with straight A’s if what they are looking for is a young, cute, pair of t~~~ and ass that opens their legs and probably gave head to get their degree?

An example of such bias is one position I applied for was a lateral move with simply better pay, and a girl with the same bachelors degree that I have but with NO job experience, but a well placed daddy in a large city got hired over me. I even had to train her on using goddamn powerpoint (which I did to get a scope of her experience and skills).

It has gotten to the point where another employee was looking to sue for discrimination and she had a damn good case. My organization has been sued by its former employees three different times within 4 years by men and women.

I’ve applied for MANY good jobs outside of this organization that I have lost count (over a hundred likely to various places such as Kiewit for planner/scheduler positions) Within my organization, I have applied for at least 5 within my department I had a better than good shot and almost a given I could get hired because of my experience and skills. I was floored and confused me that I wasn’t hired upon seeing the candidate that was selected.

One candidate was fired within months of being hired; another was fired and later found to be having phone sex with her former boss after retrieving the voice mail in her phone because the state had called and left an important message; another candidate didn’t do anything and was known to be doing a masters degree work while working because she didn’t know anything about her job; another position the candidate they selected didn’t want it because she wanted to get paid what her position was giving her AND the position she was applying for since they were asking her to do her job and more (even if it was still HR related, they wanted to simply consolidate), finally another job they simply moved someone into an interim position which I was already experienced in assisting with which basically puts them on the fast tract to be selected over me and the hiring process a simple formality.

In several of the instances such as the fired candidates, they REPOSTED the position, they didn’t ask if I was still interested in the position. Other employees have seen blatant nepotism in the WIC department.

I applied to least 5 more positions within the gov organization I am with but outside the department I am in. Only one I was able to tell where it was B.S. that they overrode hiring me to a GIS plotter position because “there weren’t enough applicants according to HR so we had to post the position again”.

We aren’t a private company, we don’t get set pay increases with good work put in, we don’t get bonuses for excellent work, our only normal means for pay increases is moving up within the organization if we have the skills to do the higher paying jobs.

The issue is legal fees and what to do after for work since you are pretty much s~~~ting the bed.

[BokehParticipant]

Yep.

My last relationship ended when my father died. I called her, and asked her to come be with me, I needed her, would pay for the plane flight, no worries, just come. She said no. Wouldn’t give a reason. Unfortunately, I was so messed up from grief, and having been raised by an abusive father who never taught me how to process s~~~ like that, I put off breaking up with her. That’s a story I won’t get into here. Ugh.
After the inevitable breakup, I asked a mutual friend “What happened?” She said “She decided you weren’t fun anymore.”
I thought about how much time and energy I’d spent to entertain her. How I helped her when she got laid off, letting her move in. Helped her write up her resume, helped her find agencies, was there for every bit of drama in her life, no questions asked, but she couldn’t be bothered to be there for me on one of the worst period in my life. And she’d been talking about buying a house together, a month before it happened.
That was my last serious relationship. It was about 14 years ago. I will never put myself into a position to let a woman kick my guts out like that again. I don’t date. I’m over sex. I like alone, or family, or friends. She made me lose all trust in woman, it was the final shove that put the red pill down my throat. We weren’t even married, I can’t imagine going through that with a wife, and having to deal with the divorce on top of it, at least I was able to basically say “f~~~ off” and never speak to her again.
I got a christmas card a couple of weeks later from her. It had a note in it, you could tell. I never opened it. I just didn’t f~~~ing care what she had to say anymore.
The pain faded. Now it’s just a small ember of resentment. I don’t wish her ill, I hope she found happiness – but I don’t ever want to see her again.
I’d love it if every woman got a letter like that, after a breakup. They’ll gaslight and try to turn it around, but it will stick in her craw for the rest of her life, that someone called her out on her s~~~ that thoroughly. I kinda wish I had done it to my ex.

Disclimers:
1. If this comes off as preachy feel free to send a dirty look and f~~~ off my way. If you find it preachy please know that it isn’t my intention.
2. I am not offering financial advice, there are others here that know more about that s~~~. This is about freedom.
3. I know some of the dudes here are currently a slave of the state and some slot-c.
Condolences. This may or may not be helpful to you.
4. This is about personal debt, business debt is a different beast.
5. I’m not a financial whiz-kid. I basically know f~~~-all except for debt f~~~ing sucks.
6. This is mostly for the youngsters so hopefully they don’t make the same mistakes I did.

If you are in debt you are not free.
You are a slave to whomever holds the debt.
You are paying extra (interest) just for the privilege of using someone else’s money.

If you have a mortgage you are still a slave but once your term on that plantation ends you will most likely have a valuable asset.
In other words a mortgage is potentially a good debt to have if you are gonna have it.

In my 20s I got into Credit Card debt, most of the debt probably came from my pursuit of poon.
Eh, not probably, who the f~~~ am I kidding. Chasing tail was exactly why I was in debt.

I will admit that my CC debt was pretty tame compared to a lot people in their 20s.
I think the most it ever got was about 13-15K.
Not a small amount certainly but not a oh, s~~~ how am I ever gonna be able to pay this down amount.

In my early 30s I FINALLY scored a gig that paid more than, just enough to get by.
First thing I did with my new found largesse was pay off the cards as I KNEW that s~~~ was bad.

Now lets take a trip in the way back machine…
If you are like me then you most likely grew up hearing s~~~ like:
1. You are always going to have a car payment, get use to it.
2. You are always going to owe someone, get use to it.
3. Some debt is good (for credit score).

In my mid 30s I wasn’t worried about the loans I still had, vehicle and student loans.
After all I was meeting my obligations and saving for a home, just in case I met my Unicorn.

Then a good friend of mine loaned me his copy of Dave Ramsey’s; The Total Money Makeover
It totally changed my life.
This is not overstatment.
Just like I took a red pill regarding the whimenze and other assorted c~~~s.
This book was my red pill for money.

{edit: S~~~ sorry I forgot the link}
Total Money Make Over

Welp, I am gonna let you know right now, Ramsey is tradcon, blue pill af.
This doesn’t mean his advice is s~~~ it means you have to wade through tradcon, blue pill s~~~ to get to the good stuff.
Also, this book is NOT about making money.
It is about how to stop digging once you are in the hole and how to get out of the hole, it is hard but impossible.

Within the hour of finishing this I paid off my remaining loans.
I was very, very lucky that I could do this. Like I said I had debt but was saving for a house.

Jeebus Crackers on a pogo stick!! I was paying interest I did not have too. How stupid can I be?

The bros here that are debt free can back me up on this.
The feeling of not owing people money is fan-f~~~ing-tastic.
Nothing else like it.
Just like many of you, the debt was a heavy af anchor that was added to, slowly over time, I had no idea how heavy it was until it was gone.

Others here have talked about a F~~~ You Fund.
When I wasn’t sending my pay out the door each month, I was able to save two of them 1. A larger one, for when s~~~ really hits the fan 2. A smaller one, that is more easily accessable.

After becoming debt free it was years before I trusted myself with a credit card again.
Today I have and use a Credit Card but I pay it off several times a month (so it doesn’t seem so big) and it gives me ‘cash back’.
I am able to do this not because I make big bucks but rather because I live a simple and frugal life.

Now I will give myself a dirty look, on the off chance, this came off as bragging or preachy.
Seriously though if you are having money problems please consider reading Ramsey’s book. Blue pill s~~~ and all.
I have made all the money mistakes of youth but was able to recover with my money red pill.

One last bit of info to leave, A good Credit Score generally means that you are really, really f~~~ing good at paying interest. Yes, I know you need a good credit score to buy s~~~ like a house or a vehicle but there are better ways to get a good credit score without paying thousands in interest.

Well, here I am going downhill again.

I think I’m just a walking, breathing Murphy’s Law.

Let’s just look back from the time I started on this site:

2015: Was in pretty bad debt, was only making $11.45 an hour and was living paycheck-to-paycheck while dating a girl that wasn’t even interested in sex so I saw no action that year at all.

2016: Got out of the relationship, left the university job for a very well-paying job at NASA, and I finally started to become debt-free.

My car was becoming too expensive to fix, so I bought an SUV that I knew I could use in many instances.

A month after buying the truck, NASA let me go. I applied for over 300 jobs within the month, and only got one interview…which ultimately didn’t hire me.

I lost my apartment and was forced to live in my truck that I still owed payments on.

Was planning on moving to Arkansas after interviewing up there quite successfully, had an issue where the fuel pump in the truck had to be replaced. Put me out $300.

I moved up to Arkansas afterward where job opportunities were calling me, and I had a girlfriend that was helping me search.

Gained temporary employment to keep up with my payments at $10.00 an hour.

Gained better employment making $15.00 an hour with the opportunity to make over $20.00 per hour, so I left the temporary position for it.

Girlfriend started to emotionally abuse me, and I lost the good paying job at the same time. I had nothing left in Arkansas, so I came back to Texas.

Now into 2017: I started my own driving and repair business, and slowly built my way back up and have been making payments on my truck since. Mother reminded me of the past and how I owe her $2,000 at the least.

Just barely into the business, my tires started getting nails in them very severely because of construction on the highways.

Met a girl in April, things were decent with her as it gave me someone to talk to so I didn’t have to go to “Mommy” just to talk to someone in person (because I personally despise doing that). A hose leak came up after, then the girlfriend left me a week later because I swear she and her step-dad had some creepy relationship going on.

Fixed the hose issue, putting me out $100 to fix it on my own, and continued going on in my life alone, no problem save for some loneliness and my depression and thoughts of suicide still hitting me every day. Living in my truck is not ideal, but I have to pay this thing off before I can take off elsewhere.

Business died off a little during the summer (my rides would be going around the country and touring), but still made enough for insurance and payments.

Check Engine light came on. I checked it out: It’s the fuel injector in cylinder 8, the hardest one to get to without proper tools.

Come up to last Friday. In the middle of a ride, my brakes went out on me. Just spent money on a late car payment, so I was broke. Talked to friends, none of which could help me. Only option was “Mommy,” which made me cringe. I hate contacting her for anything, but it was my only option. She paid to have it towed to our mechanic, who diagnosed that the caliper and piston broke on the rear right side. Cost to fix it: $775. She’s gonna have to help me out, and she’s furious. She has let me borrow her vehicle for a few days for the time being, though she hates it…just to keep my business going. They also tried to figure out what was wrong with the check engine issue without running a diagnosis that would cost an extra $80. They predict what it is and said I could “bite the bullet” and try to fix what they guess, but it would be an extra $165. Mother is refusing to help on that issue.

She says I’m not trying hard enough to make it. I told her I’m doing everything I can (I’ve been applying for jobs when I have free time, like now), she says she doesn’t want to talk to me again after this except to pay her back. I got admittedly upset and threw my phone out of anger because she drove my anxiety over the wall. Shattered the bottom one-third of my phone screen, though I didn’t throw it that hard. So much for Otter Boxes being useful. My phone is my one way of reaching my customers/clients to gain more business.

Now she says she’s helped me out so much that she will never help me out again after, and that I will owe her $3,000. I will still have a check engine issue that costs $165 – $250. I have another truck payment due of $150 by Friday. My insurance is due in 6 days of $195. My registration and inspection are both due before the end of the month, over $100. I know a screen repair on a phone is $100.

Now you see what I mean. Every time I fix one problem, two more arise. (The phone is my fault for losing it, obviously, but just see how it “happens” to occur once my brakes got repaired)

I’m tired of relying on my mother for help. I want to distance myself from her and everyone here. Heck, I wouldn’t mind moving away to get away from everything. It’s harder and harder for me to live every day.

[StealthParticipant]

Artcle slants the explanation to make it sound like women are now too good for men since they have finally discovered the workforce.

Personally I have always preferred educated, attractive, corporate European women and am as highly educated as they are. But no way would I get married again. “Starting boys on the right foot,” although meant to sound demeaning to men in criticizing them for not catering to the plantation’s plan for your life, would in real life look more like MGTOW.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[joetechParticipant]

It’s good to see South Carolina attracting new industry finally. For decades they held onto textiles while those jobs were shipped overseas. It was like watching the steel plants in Buffalo close one after the other. South Carolina used to be terrified of good paying manufacturing jobs. That all changed when BMW moved to Spartanburg.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous]

F~~~ Ringling Bros, & Barnum & Bailey, WE HAVE THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH! THE REALEST OF REAL NEWS!

The roof, the floors, and the walls are on fire!

These are the same c~~~s that sat in Mizzzzz Parkins class being praised and adored while us boys were shammed and shunned. I’ve seen the narsism and special treatment of women all my life! Glad I abandoned the plantation in “97” 20 years on an uneventful blissful life!

You’re gonna die alone alright! Either broke, divorce raped, homeless, and suicidal or alone as a MGTOW that has lost nothing and living in relative safety and comfort.

If you spend five minutes examining the statistics you’ll find MGTOW is a no-brainer!

[GargamelSpectator]

Anonymous wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

They are such a tiny fraction of Germans that it is absolute bulls~~~ to go after them.

So, are you saying that if a greater number of people were to openly disagree with the “official” narrative that it would be a good idea to go after them? If you go after anyone at any level regardless of how many of them there are for having an opinion, that is Fascism.

No, they shouldn’t go after them because the population already knows better. But now they will grow due to the given “victim situation” and growing distrust the population now has in the government.

If they would get bigger, then putting a ban on them will never work. That will push them underground and make it “exciting” to belong to them. Any you know how popular “exciting” thing can become.

The government should look at an open dialogue and conquer these different opinions with real argumentation and documentation of proof. And this will calm down the spread of a proven false mindset.

The government shouldn’t go after anyone.

But the victims themselves can take legal action. And then proof will have to laid on the table. So if the “Jewish Council” starts a lawsuit against them I can see the point. Same as I would have to do if someone tried to ruin my business with false claims.

But all of this is nothing new. In Germany, showing Nazi symbols was always forbidden by law and no one did it.

Now they just “unpack” that “80 year old topic” to force their agenda on shutting up opposition.

In Germany you always risked a court case if you openly denied the holocaust.
Now, it only fits the agenda to enforce censorship.

And in the case of the “other force” getting more all by itself, then the government will go against it, that is called civil war.

And yes, you can call that dictatorship. And we are already in feminist dictatorship. Now it finally shows.

For THEM, it is OK to go after the opposition but the other side sees this differently.
So if no solution is found, there is a war of some sorts coming up.

Taking down Merkill will be good step in the right direction. (We already suspect election fraud that will keep her in power)

Most Germans say out loud: “We want things to go back to where they were before.” And they mean “before Merkel”.

And these voices cannot be shut up. How many millions should the c~~~ throw in the slammer for “hate speech”?

At the end of the East German republic, the communist regime also had plans to build more prisons and beef up the StaSi from 100,000 to 200,000 employees. But these plans were crossed by the people who took it to the streets in tens of thousands.

And this will happen again.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

The start of this year I had to go though the chaos, pain and panic of dumping a depressed suicidal girl who I really wish I never met or even started to date. I hate to say it like that because when we first hooked up I really did have strong feelings for her… but over months and months of her dragging me down I came to despise her, I hated having to tip toe around her and putting her first over my own needs. If this sounds a bit like what you are going though right now you have come to the right thread… hopefully

I’m making this not just for my fellow MGTOW, I wish this to be used by anyone caught in such a horrible dilemma. So if you know someone that wants out or is having trouble getting out, please do send them this thread, I’m not saying I have all the answers but hopefully I can set some people on the path to dealing with this.

I’m going to put all of my personal experience, along with other advice I read up along the way, to comprise what I feel is the decent starting foundations to splitting with such people.

Like I said this wont be a be all and end all, everyone is different and react differently, if I had a book that was a one size fits all fix to everyone I wouldn’t be here… I would be on a nice big private island enjoying the huge piles of money I earned 😉

I think to best do this I should break it all down into steps, from start to finish, so here we go:

1) Coming To Terms:

This path was never going to be a cake walk, if this girl has a history of self-harming, attempts and depression the threat of her offing herself is very real. But you need to know one thing…

ITS NOT YOUR FAULT

Make sure you drill that right into your mind, even if it takes a good week of constantly reminding yourself, you need to know that if she does decide to end it all you cant blame yourself for it. Would it really be fair on both of you if you stuck around? not there out of love but out of fear, that’s not a relationship, that’s in essence emotional slavery.

If anything you could put her in more danger sticking around, just ask yourself right now…

How long could you keep that act up?
How long could you keep smiling when your not happy?
How long could you keep saying you love her when you really don’t?
How long would it be till you couldn’t really give a flying f~~~ and just snapped?

The fact you’re doing things now while you still care for them is important, you’re not just doing this for you, you’re doing this for her.

During this time you need to promise not to put yourself in such a compromising position ever again, you need to promise never to date people who are in this state. Men and women like this are in no shape to be dating anyone, the emotional bonds formed can be intoxicating to them, taking that away always results in terrible backlash, no if ands or buts. They are better off having friends, family and doctors there to help them, a romantic partner is not going to help.

2) The Approach:
Right now this can be done in many different ways, but like I said at the start everyone is different, you need to use your better judgement to gauge what would be best for her. I will however recommend some options:

>Somewhere quiet
>Somewhere control can be maintained
>Somewhere she cant hurt/kill herself with ease
>Somewhere she cant hurt/kill you
>NOT IN YOUR HOUSE! (I was forced into this problem, its not easy)

I would also recommend that you inform there patient/guardian before or after you’ve broken up with her, its up to you when is best to inform them, but it should always be done as closely as possible to the event. That way they will know to keep an eye on her, this should at least help limit the chances of her doing anything stupid behind closed doors.

Now you have the planning under your belt its time to think about what your going to say to her, a simple its over wont work in this case, its going to be like dumping someone x10. You need to think long and hard about what your going to say, it needs to be clear and concise, you need to drive your reasons home to her. You can’t leave her in any doubt what’s happening.

Now there are two ways, I find, you can explain things to her:
>Truthfully
>Blame Yourself

From what I have read both approaches have mixed results but from my own personal experience a mix of both works well, I was honest with my ex and sprinkled in a little self blame, it leads them on into believing its not there fault which helps a lot. This sit down process can take hours (2 hours for me) but it will be worth it at the end.

Remember these key things as you talk:
>Resist any attempts of kissing or sex
>Never raise your voice or get angry (Even if she does)
>Never out right blame them
>Never take them up on the offer of “Seeing where things go”
>Never accept the “lets still be friends” offer

They will try anything to keep you around, don’t let them get to you, if you at any point buckle and decide to stay with them its going to be even harder next time around. She will no longer be playing the guessing game, she knows you wanted out before, she will do everything in her power to keep you from doing so again. Like I said before people like this crave the emotional bonds a relationship brings, taking it away is like taking drugs away from a addict, they will do anything to keep that high around. Even if that means hurting and upsetting the people they love.

3) The Block:
Now you have finally dumped her the hardest part of this trip is about to start, there is a very high chance it will not be over, they will not be able to accept you moving on, at the end of the day you became their rock and they are not about to let you just walk away like that.

The days shortly following my ending of the relationship I was bombarded on all my online profiles, along with things being posted though my door. So I suggest you do the following to limit post breakup stress:

>Change all passwords (If they know what the passwords are)
>Block them on all online accounts
>Do not respond to any messages
>Destroy all mail they post though your door (DO NOT READ THEM!)
>If you can take some time off work and disappear for a few days that will help too

This process will be very hard and I can tell you from first hand experience you’re going to feel all kinds of emotions, its not going to be easy but it needs to be done, giving them but a single shred of response will only make things worse. They need to know you’re not there rock any more, sometimes actions speak a whole lot louder than words.

As for how long it may take, I really don’t know, we are all human and all very different. However if you want my perspective on things, it took a whole month for my ex to move on and sadly leach onto another man… instead of getting the help she needed… so my mumble guess would be around a few months if not longer.

4) A New Path:
This is less a thing you have to do, more a motivational fun part of this whole thread, feel free to just ignore this step if you want… but once all is said and done you really need to work on you for a while.

The one thing I found out when I split up with my ex was I had a whole ton of me time again, I was able to do things I really wanted to do, I was no longer bounded to her wants and needs.

Instead of finding a new “hole” to plug up your time, why don’t you use all this wonderful free time to enjoy being single again? Even if that’s just for a few months

I know the moment I spit up from my ex I grew out a sick ass goaty like the one I had during my college years, something she really hated the idea of… but I tell you what, now I really want to go full beard just for s~~~s and giggles. The best part is I can, I don’t have anyone there to give me a sop story about that one time a bearded person upset them, I can just go right ahead and do it. The whole experience is liberating to say the least…

Thank you all for taking your time to read this thread, I hope its been helpful for those who have been thought or are going thought what I’ve had to deal with. Just remember to stay strong and well done for taking that next step, we are all here for you if you need the help 🙂

Please feel free to leave a comment with advice as well, even if it contradicts what I say, there is no clear right or wrong answer when dealing with this matter, there are so many different people in the world there can never really be a one size fits all guide to dumping crazy people. The more we as a community put in to this the more we can help those trapped in such toxic relationships.

Peace,
GG

"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people call love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades; leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle, Morty, rise above! Focus on science" ~Rick Sanchez, Rick and Morty (TV Show)