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Well for those who have been following my work from hell situation. I just found out that I did not get the management job I have spent the last month pursuing. That is 3 no’s in a row. All from female HR of course.
But.
I also found out that the institution I was pursuing just lost the assistant manger and another employee. So, it may be a blessing in disguise.
Anyway.
My battle with the post wall c~~~s continues and I have found a lawyer to represent me in my discrimination case. The beat goes on.
My battle with the post wall c~~~s continues and I have found a lawyer to represent me in my discrimination case.
Thanks for the update. I would suggest saving your money [unless the attorney is going to represent you on a contingency basis]. Discrimination cases are very difficult to prove [especially if you have a dick.]
PS: You didn’t fail. Period.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
HR stands in the way of finding good people.
If I were CEO of any firm looking for good people, and walked by a desk to hear some HR t~~~ ask “so what are your weaknesses?” I would send her packing.
( Ask what his STRENGTHS are , dummy!! )
About 4 years ago, I was considered by FOX™ and spoke to the worst HR rep I ever encountered. The dumbest line of questioning. I was the best person for it and knew it too, but their priorities were in the wrong place. They should have CLAWED their way to get me in there, but they wanted someone to tell them what they wanted to hear. You know what I’m talking about.
They went through all this trouble, and they ended up going with someone else. OK. Whatever. Their loss. But then they called back 4 months later and said the new person didn’t work out and they wanted to meet with me.
I said directly: ” I could have told you that. OF COURSE he didn’t work out . . . .because you also asked me what my weaknesses are instead of my STRENGTHS. And as long as you continue asking those questions in your screening process, you’re only gonna get weaklings. I told you my STRENGTHS, but you went with someone who talked about their weaknesses, so I’m not surprised to hear from you at all.”
The response blew this cuck’s hair right off his head, as if he never thought about it before. And then I told him “sorry. I’m not available” because I already had something else.
Funny thing is….. with all these little disappointments that seem deflating at the time, I haven’t seen any of them as a loss or a negative, because something better came of it.
I’m not a big fan of “faith”, but have faith that your planets WILL align again.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You didn’t fail. Period.
Thank you Sir. Sometimes I forget.
some HR t~~~ ask “so what are your weaknesses?”
Holy s~~~! I was asked that exact question in the 2 hour interview I had to sit through. It was the only question I stumbled on. She might as well have asked, “how much do you suck”? I was there to demonstrate my strengths, I guess I am lucky that I have missed another speeding bullet.
Something I was just telling a buddy…
CEOs don’t want competition, I’ve said this before in other threads. Ham-beasts may well have orders to stay away from ‘threatening’ candidates when top positions are at stake. Sadly, when it comes to protecting your CEO position it’s all fair game, and the last thing you want is somebody around that could run you out.Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.
Holy s~~~! I was asked that exact question in the 2 hour interview I had to sit through
I consider ALL HR questions to be s~~~ tests, and will flatly refuse to answer a question like that (as explained above). I have actually left interviews making them look STUPID.
In that case, it doesn’t matter if you don’t get the job.
These people forget –>> you are interviewing THEM, too.
They lose major points for a stupid line of questioning.Another big company of cucks interviewed me in August 2015 for a side-contract. She asked what my “salary requirements” are before meeting in person. I refused to answer the question and told her I don’t discuss the size of an engagement ring before a first date, either.
An uncomfortable giggle followed and she felt stupid just for asking. You don’t ask that f~~~ing question, and you sure as f~~~ never answer it. It’s a s~~~ test.
Again, if not answering that question doesn’t land you the job, it doesn’t matter if you don’t get that job.
You tell them it’s an inappropriate question before we have MUTUALLY determined we are interested in a MUTUAL working relationship. It’s not the first question they should be asking at all! It should be the last question if anything. And even then, you tell them to make you an offer.
Again, if not answering that question doesn’t land you the job, tell them to go hire the wrong person for the job.
I am lucky that I have missed another speeding bullet.
Always interview THEM and let them know you’re interviewing them too. Pay attention to their questions and draw as much as you can from it… because THE RIGHT company would hear you say “I am here to discuss my STRENGTHS”, and hire you on the spot just for that.
Those are the ONLY people I would work for.
Someone who sees the value in that response.If they don’t, you just saved yourself X years of working for the wrong people. But even more importantly, they just lost the right person. Thats’ not your problem.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.She asked what my “salary requirements” are before meeting in person.
You have clearly been through this exact situation before. I was asked that as well. Unfortunately, I answered.
I don’t discuss the size of an engagement ring before a first date, either.
^^^^ This will be the answer the next time I get hit with that S~~~ test.^^^^^^^
you just saved yourself X years of working for the wrong people
I think you are correct.
^^^^ This will be the answer the next time I get hit with that S~~~ test.^^^^^^^
As long as you realize they won’t like it – even though it’s f~~~ing hilarious. They can’t stand smart men with better responses than they were expecting. You can buffer it a little by saying “it’s inappropriate” for that reason (if you want ) but that’s not my style.
I want them to know that before we have any “money conversation”, we need to BOTH determine that we want to work together first. So when the “salary requirement” question comes up you can have a little fun with their s~~~ tests:
“You mean your employees name their own salary requirements? I’m intrigued! But why don’t we first determine our mutual willingness to work together and then you can make me an offer when it’s appropriate.”
“Uh…. well… we need to …. “
“Either you’re looking for the BEST person, or you’re looking for the CHEAPEST person. Which is it.”
I think you’ll agree, if you don’t get that job, it doesn’t matter if you don’t get that job.
Saved [my]self X years of working for the wrong people
I don’t know you. And I don’t know them. But THAT is a sure thing and you’ll see it in time. I was deflated many times, but in retrospect, not once have I ever been sorry these HR gyno-infested s~~~holes didn’t hire me.
You have to know they are losing the best person for the job. They don’t benefit by this line of questioning. They set themselves up for hiring a loser. “You don’t want that job” is what I tell myself.
I already have an idea who the right people are who would hire me – but I also know who I would be willing to work for. I don’t want to work for any company that asks about “salary requirements” before anything else…. or who wants me to discuss my “weaknesses”, so they will get a little correction.
They can hire a woman for that. She’ll LOVE it. She will tell them exactly what they want to hear, and talk about her weaknesses all day long. I would rather stick needles in my eyes.
I failed….Again.
Don’t believe that.
When a woman asks how big engagement ring will be before she has sex with you – and she decides not to have sex with you because you think it’s a stupid question – you passed with flying colors and missed out on nothing.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous3Look at the types of men women choose when left to their own devices for their personal lives. Now let them making hiring decisions in the work world and what else could possibly happen? The only reason the whole thing hasn’t completely already fallen apart is because some men were already there beforehand, and many of the Chads refuse to go to work for these women so they have to hire some betas to fill up some spots.
A company of only women fails very quickly, as all the results show. Even women themselves have admitted as much. So they have to get some men that are then overworked and underpaid. If these men have any brains they seek to get the hell out sooner rather than later.
You mean your employees name their own salary requirements? I’m intrigued!
Ha! Genius response.
Either you’re looking for the BEST person, or you’re looking for the CHEAPEST person. Which is it.”
Exactly, I figure they are looking for the most work at the lowest cost.
They can hire a woman for that. She’ll LOVE it. She will tell them exactly what they want to hear, and talk about her weaknesses all day long
it doesn’t matter if you don’t get that job
Market~~~cher wrote:
I failed….Again.
Don’t believe that.
When a woman asks how big engagement ring will be before she has sex with you – and she decides not to have sex with you because you think it’s a stupid question – you passed with flying colorsThank you Sir. I appreciate the truth!
HR t~~~ ask “so what are your weaknesses?”
“Dealing with people in human resources”
Peace brothers
If these men have any brains they seek to get the hell out sooner rather than later.
Oh brother I am trying so hard to get the hell away from the gynocracy. It is so true that women do not work smart. They create little tasks to make the job twice as difficult.
“so what are your weaknesses?”
Ha-ha, KM nailed it. I’ve never had a man ask me this at an interview, only women. Why? Because they believe all this bulls~~~ about opening up about your insecurities, blah blah blah, only whatever answer you give will make them despise you more.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Ha-ha, KM nailed it.
As usual. I think I owe him about $100.00 bucks for the therapy. LOL.
whatever answer you give will make them despise you more
That has been my experience.
I also found out that the institution I was pursuing just lost the assistant manger and another employee. So, it may be a blessing in disguise.
When the door closes …..
I haven’t seen any of them as a loss or a negative, because something better came of it.
Another window opens. This really is a truism in life.
You didn’t fail. Period.
As has been said, you performed your portion of the interview correctly. They screwed up in not realizing your potential and worth by not making you an offer. Having two employees leave (or get fired) shows a communication lapse within the organization at a minimum. Bet these will not be the only employees “transitioned away” from the company.
Pay attention to their questions and draw as much as you can from it
The question behind the question is always the one you try to answer. Discard the smoke and mirrors if possible and talk directly about the issue they are trying to resolve.
There will be another interview soon MW and you’ll be better prepared to address their inquiries and concerns. As as
"My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it." - Clarence Buddinton Kelland
Thanks GregBO!
Having two employees leave (or get fired) shows a communication lapse within the organization at a minimum. Bet that these will not be only employees “transitioned away” from the company
That is my bet as well. I felt crappy at first, but when I realized what had happened, I felt pretty damn lucky. I do not want to go from the frying pan into the fire.
Discrimination cases are very difficult to prove [especially if you have a dick.]
and are White,lol.
As for weaknesses I reply with ‘I’m a workaholic,that has difficulty making time for family & friends’
Gets them every time!
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Well for those who have been following my work from hell situation. I just found out that I did not get the management job I have spent the last month pursuing. That is 3 no’s in a row. All from female HR of course.
My battle with the post wall c~~~s continues and I have found a lawyer to represent me in my discrimination case. The beat goes on.
I’ve have a worse streak. Been going on for 5+ years. I’ve applied to another job I’m qualified for this week. I stopped crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. Now it’s just like showing I’m making an honest effort in order to gather evidence in case I decide to sue my organization (local gov organization). Because I will be frank, I’m not a dramatic guy, I am patient, easy going, understanding, experienced, smart, work whenever requested, and affable I can tell and understand when a better candidate was selected over me. Below average pay doesn’t bother me because I am great with money (Have two life insurance accounts and retirement building up) if I know I can work my way up the ladder.
What p~~~es me off however is unethical, unprofessional, bias behavior and people flat out cheating me that actually effects my personal life. I have seen hard evidence that there is internal bias and shenanigans going on which really bothers me. Think about it, what is the point of getting another degree with straight A’s if what they are looking for is a young, cute, pair of t~~~ and ass that opens their legs and probably gave head to get their degree?
An example of such bias is one position I applied for was a lateral move with simply better pay, and a girl with the same bachelors degree that I have but with NO job experience, but a well placed daddy in a large city got hired over me. I even had to train her on using goddamn powerpoint (which I did to get a scope of her experience and skills).
It has gotten to the point where another employee was looking to sue for discrimination and she had a damn good case. My organization has been sued by its former employees three different times within 4 years by men and women.
I’ve applied for MANY good jobs outside of this organization that I have lost count (over a hundred likely to various places such as Kiewit for planner/scheduler positions) Within my organization, I have applied for at least 5 within my department I had a better than good shot and almost a given I could get hired because of my experience and skills. I was floored and confused me that I wasn’t hired upon seeing the candidate that was selected.
One candidate was fired within months of being hired; another was fired and later found to be having phone sex with her former boss after retrieving the voice mail in her phone because the state had called and left an important message; another candidate didn’t do anything and was known to be doing a masters degree work while working because she didn’t know anything about her job; another position the candidate they selected didn’t want it because she wanted to get paid what her position was giving her AND the position she was applying for since they were asking her to do her job and more (even if it was still HR related, they wanted to simply consolidate), finally another job they simply moved someone into an interim position which I was already experienced in assisting with which basically puts them on the fast tract to be selected over me and the hiring process a simple formality.
In several of the instances such as the fired candidates, they REPOSTED the position, they didn’t ask if I was still interested in the position. Other employees have seen blatant nepotism in the WIC department.
I applied to least 5 more positions within the gov organization I am with but outside the department I am in. Only one I was able to tell where it was B.S. that they overrode hiring me to a GIS plotter position because “there weren’t enough applicants according to HR so we had to post the position again”.
We aren’t a private company, we don’t get set pay increases with good work put in, we don’t get bonuses for excellent work, our only normal means for pay increases is moving up within the organization if we have the skills to do the higher paying jobs.
The issue is legal fees and what to do after for work since you are pretty much s~~~ting the bed.
I’ve have a worse streak. Been going on for 5+ years. I’ve applied to another job I’m qualified for this week. I stopped crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. Now it’s just like showing I’m making an honest effort in order to gather evidence in case I decide to sue my organization (local gov organization). Because I will be frank, I’m not a dramatic guy, I am patient, easy going, understanding, experienced, smart, work whenever requested, and affable I can tell and understand when a better candidate was selected over me. Below average pay doesn’t bother me because I am great with money (Have two life insurance accounts and retirement building up) if I know I can work my way up the ladder.
I feel that. Very similar situation here.
nepotism
If you are dealing with that you do not stand a chance.
Anonymous11Man, you’ve got to keep trying. HR c~~~s be damned.
I’ve read where actual managers are getting more than a little peeved now that HR, primarily bottom of the barrel women, who spent their college years chugging cum and c~~~ hopping control the hiring.
I applied for over 250 jobs before I went self-employed which is a nail biting experience all it’s own. It’s HR c~~~ free though. I’ve also read that demanding access to applicant’s Fakebook accounts is becoming way more common. That’s why when women touch anything. It turns to s~~~.
YOU DID NOT FAIL!
They failed.
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