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    http://breaking911.com/breaking-news-congressman-introduces-articles-impeachment-president-trump/

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    Washington, D.C. – Today, Congressman Brad Sherman (D-CA), joined by Congressman Al Green (D-TX), introduced an Article of Impeachment (H. Res. 438) against President Donald J. Trump for “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    The Article is based on Article 1, dealing with “Obstruction of Justice,” which was passed by the Judiciary Committee on July 27, 1974, regarding Richard M. Nixon.

    Statement of Congressman Brad Sherman: “I am pleased that Congressman Al Green (D-TX) has joined me in filing Articles of Impeachment against Donald J. Trump. We now begin the effort to force the House Judiciary Committee to hold hearings on Obstruction of Justice and Russian interference in our election.

    Recent disclosures by Donald Trump Jr. indicate that Trump’s campaign was eager to receive assistance from Russia. It now seems likely that the President had something to hide when he tried to curtail the investigation of National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and the wider Russian probe. I believe his conversations with, and subsequent firing of, FBI Director James Comey constitute Obstruction of Justice.

    Every day Democrats, Republicans, and the entire world are shocked by the latest example of America’s amateur President. Ignorance accompanied by a refusal to learn. Lack of impulse control, accompanied by a refusal to have his staff control his impulses. We’re no longer surprised by any action, no matter how far below the dignity of the office—and no matter how dangerous to the country.

    But the Constitution does not provide for the removal of a President for impulsive, ignorant incompetence. It does provide for the removal of a President for High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    As the investigations move forward, additional evidence supporting additional Articles of Impeachment may emerge. However, as to Obstruction of Justice, as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 1512 (b)(3), the evidence we have is sufficient to move forward now. And the national interest requires that we do so.

    Introducing Articles of Impeachment will have two possible outcomes. First, I have slight hope it will inspire an ‘intervention’ in the White House. If Impeachment is real, if they actually see Articles, perhaps we will see incompetency replaced by care. Perhaps uncontrollable impulses will be controlled. And perhaps the danger our nation faces will be ameliorated.

    Second, and more likely, filing Articles of Impeachment is the first step on a very long road. But if the impulsive incompetency continues, then eventually—many, many months from now—Republicans will join the impeachment effort.

    I author Articles of Impeachment not to change our national policy. I served with Mike Pence in Congress for twelve years and I disagree with him on just about everything. I never dreamed I would author a measure that would put him in the White House. I am introducing Articles of Impeachment to begin a long process to protect our country from abuse of power, obstruction of justice, and impulsive, ignorant incompetence.”

    The article is likely to go nowhere given that Republicans control Congress. The Dems are getting desperate fellas. They know they can’t beat Trump and likely know that this won’t go anywhere. Trump will be President until January 20th, 2025.

    Thoughts??

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    Uchibenkei
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    The dems are only trying to cause havoc and obstruct democracy.

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

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    MGTOW Knight
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    As a fellow Houstonian, Al Greene is such a dumbass.

    These idiots really think they will get a 2/3 majority necessary to pull this off?

    Good luck with that!

    Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

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    All this crap is designed to do is stall our MAGA. They know none of this stuff has any teeth.

    They need to give the dumbasses out there the perception, and nothing more.

    I can hear it already…

    Dumbass #1: Did you hear Trump is going to be impeached?

    Dumbass #2: I guess all that stuff in the news was true.

    It is almost like “Dad” trying to get upstairs to punish the “kids”, and the “kids” keep throwing toys down the stairs to impede “Dad” from getting to them.

    It is getting to the point where the tide is going to shift to vigilantes having to take care of the government’s jobs if this crap keeps up.

    Where the Hell is Sessions and the DOJ? That is my question. Slander and libelous acts are illegal, or so I thought.

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    TaxGuy
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    Politically it does a few things:

    1. It must play well in their own districts and helps their personal re-election efforts.
    2. Keeps Congress from healthcare and tax reform.
    3. I would assume that this came down from the national level and it forces Congressional Members to stand either firmly with or against the President, which will be used to form strategies in the midterm election next year.
    4. It must be part of a larger strategy to win back the Senate, which would do two things. One, it divides the government. And maybe more importantly, the Senate is who you have to go through for a Supreme Court nominee. The Democrats have to be dying to get the Senate back. I would think that anything like this that they do has an endgame of winning back the Senate next November.

    Order the good wine

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    FrostByte
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    A drowning party grasping the blade of a sword.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

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    Faust For Science
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    The progressives whom still cling to power refuse to accept that it is their fault they have been losing influence, respect, and power in the U.S.

    Due to them continued to refuse to see the truth in the face losing over a 1000 federal and state elected seat, their downward spiral shows no signs of stopping.

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    Tic
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    If Trump were to actually be impeached and removed from office, there would be such a s~~~storm of civil unrest, its going to turn this country into mayhem. There are a whole lot of americans that I think would not stand for this.

    God bless peace and freedom.

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    Carnage
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    I don’t like trump.
    Couse he will avoid ww3.
    😫 Hitlery should have won.

    By the way USA always is on the lead… I mean no other country in the world has ever seen a president trying to deliver what he promised in campaign.

    Just unbelievable.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

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    I don’t like trump.
    Couse he will avoid ww3.
    😫 Hitlery should have won.

    By the way USA always is on the lead… I mean no other country in the world has ever seen a president trying to deliver what he promised in campaign.

    Just unbelievable.

    That’s what they wanted. WW3. Look at people like Lindsey Graham and John McCain. They get money from those defense companies that make weapons. If there is a war, those companies will make a s~~~ ton. No war = no money. Follow the money.

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    these democrats are p~~~ing into the wind.
    very little cohesion left to the DNC.
    it reeks of desperation..

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    GregB0
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    As a fellow Houstonian, Al Greene is such a dumbass.

    Politically it does a few things:

    1. It must play well in their own districts and helps their personal re-election efforts.
    2. Keeps Congress from healthcare and tax reform.
    3. I would assume that this came down from the national level and it forces Congressional Members to stand either firmly with or against the President, which will be used to form strategies in the midterm election next year.
    4. It must be part of a larger strategy to win back the Senate, which would do two things. One, it divides the government. And maybe more importantly, the Senate is who you have to go through for a Supreme Court nominee. The Democrats have to be dying to get the Senate back. I would think that anything like this that they do has an endgame of winning back the Senate next November.

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    As discussed in several previous posts regarding the impeachment process, this was inevitable. This will by no means obtain a conviction after the trial process, but that is not the point of impeachment. It’s about grabbing the media when you have no other means to do so.

    The thread of Impeachment came up in another thread yesterday and I pointed out that the Impeachment process is started by a House of Representatives Judiciary Committee. If they feel that there are grounds to begin the Impeachment process, they forward the “articles of impeachment” to the entire House for vote. Both votes are simple majorities The Senate would then begin the trial portion of the Impeachment process. The Senate Vote carries a 2/3rds majority.

    It is all a game of politics now and a simple majority is very easy to obtain these days with politicians crossing the fence. Not saying that this will happen, only bringing awareness to the fact that it can. The quote I shared yesterday is “An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history”. 1970 Gerald Ford.

    Members of the House can start the process to Impeach even while knowing that there is no way that the Senate would vote to convict.

    Sparky wrote: A huge portion of the population would feel that their vote had been nullified.

    Granted that there would be a large portion of the population angry and dissatisfied if any member of the Presidential Cabinet were Impeached, let alone removed from Office.

    Sparky wrote: they have forgotten the government only has power as granted by the will of the people.

    UFortunately the power of Impeachment was granted to the government to ensure that elected officials were incapable of continuing the “tyranny” experienced by the nation as a whole while governed by the British prior to the Revolutionary War.

    Keymaster wrote: Geraldo Rivera built up the whole “Capone’s Vault” story

    KM, A great reference pointing to the media’s need for high profile events that will garner the greatest ratings. That’s why we no longer have three networks which provided consistently credible news coverage, but have today’s smorgasbord of news outlets (TV, Stream, Blog, etc.) that are usually suspect in their coverage. They do not have time to prepare and present the news because of the danger of being scooped by another news organization.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    TaxGuy
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    As discussed in several previous posts regarding the impeachment process, this was inevitable. This will by no means obtain a conviction after the trial process, but that is not the point of impeachment. It’s about grabbing the media when you have no other means to do so.

    Agreed. I’m more interested in the timing. Why now? Does it eat up all of July, and then the Dem’s go on vacation for August even if the Republicans vote to stay in DC? What good does this do when the R’s control the House? Can’t Ryan just say “Cool, it’s right here in line just AFTER health care and taxes. They’ve been on the table longer.”

    It seems like the media can say “Russia/Trump” in the same sentence every night right now. So why NOW with the impeachment? At first glance I would say wait for the impeachment until next year, closer to the next election. I’m just wondering what I’m missing here.

    Order the good wine

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    GregB0
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    As discussed in several previous posts regardinug the impeachment process, this was inevitable. This will by no means obtain a conviction after the trial process, but that is not the point of impeachment. It’s about grabbing the media when you have no other means to do so.

    Agreed. I’m more interested in the timing. Why now? Does it eat up all of July, and then the Dem’s go on vacation for August even if the Republicans vote to stay in DC? health care and taxes. They’ve been on the table longer.”

    At first glance I would say wait for the impeachment until next year, closer to the next election. I’m just wondering what I’m missing here.

    If you or I could fundamentally answer this question with fact based certainty, we would be able to write our own paycheck.

    Until PistolPete or another political theorist answers I will offer my 2cents:
    I believe that you are basically correct in suggesting that starting impeachment proceedings now with no real chance of obtaining an indictment is about building a case for next year and stalling legislation in the short term to also bolster 2018 campaign rhetoric.

    The Russian news may have been the straw that finally pushed the indictment out, but it will continue to be supported by other issues along the way. Keeping the president in the news and linked to three “Notorious” Former presidents can only help the Dems in 2018. The proceedings can easily last into next year and then step two could be played.

    If the President’s approval rating stays low, the Dems may try to make noise about “vote us in and give us the majority and we’ll will vote him out”

    With the Republican base pulling out all stops to support the President, neither can really go hard in trying to pass legislation. No legislation and an indictment would be seen as an one two punch by the DNC, with the opportunity for more damage later.

    With no real contenders available for President, they can only attempt to take down Trump and then go after Pence and GOP leadership.

    Russia, Health care, taxes, immigration, what ever, its about continuing to built negative opinions about the Predident and by extension the GOP. No or slow legislation only hurts the party in the majority.

    If the GOP remains fractured and divisive, then you could have the Freedom Caucus or others asking for concessions in 2018 or 2020. Another potential win for dems.

    Not passing significant legislation on GOP 2016 campaign planks could easily support weak DNC candidates.

    The dems cannot build anything sizable for 2018 on merits, but building their platform on a lot of little things could build a bigger foundation to act as a spring board.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    GregB0
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    Sorry for the long and windy post, but there is a lot of guess work going on about the why’s of the indictment announcement.

    TaxMan is certainly not the only person saying WTF.

    Opinions and speculation are all we have at the moment to use in determining motives.

    Certainly more news will be forthcoming over the next weeks and months.

    Lively forum threads for sure.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    Bstoff
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    Agreed, GregBo. I’m thinking that they are constantly trying to keep this sort of stuff in the news to create a mood of chaos and uncertainty, surrounding Trump. Maintaining a mood and the illusion of illegitimacy since the election.
    Bringing forward an impeachment story forces each politician in Washington to “take a side” and make some kind of public statement to use against them if they later make a statement in a different direction. It’s useful for distraction, projecting, and again, creating the desired mood in the country, maybe to make violence seem more palatable if Trump steps on too many of the wrong toes.
    My opinion is the primary target of Trump is the pedophile network that seems to permeate everywhere. From media, politicians, clergy, all the way down to the ordinary guys who are getting arrested now in large numbers since Trump was inaugurated. Have you heard anything in the news about the thousands of arrests made? Neither have I.
    I’m hoping the Pedogate scandal, and draining of the pedo-swamp is going to be Trump’s crowning achievement, if he lives long enough to pull it off. It will change the world as we know it.

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