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    https://pairedlife.com/dating/Dating-10-Things-Men-Dont-Do-Anymore

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    I haven’t done a lot of dating recently but I have done my fair share over the years. So, at the risk of sounding frustrated by today’s dating scene, I am going to go there. I know I share the sentiments of many women, especially those women who have had the fortunate experience, like myself, of being treated well by men. When you’ve been treated well, you just can’t accept the BS that goes on with today’s dating scene. Things that were once taken for granted are now just memories and sometimes those things are all together forgotten because the nonsense seems to be the status quo.

    Here is a countdown of things men don’t bother with anymore:

    #10 Men don’t ask women on dates anymore

    They’re called “Meet Ups” now. WTH? I understand that since the emergence of online dating, that meeting a new person in a public place is necessary under those circumstances. No problem there. But what has happened is it has taken the place of real dating. In those instances where two people know each other the guys are requesting to “meet” the woman at a location to “hang out” as opposed to actually picking her up to take her out.

    #9 Men don’t ask women out in advance anymore

    It’s Tuesday night and Sam rings Stephanie to catch up with her. After exchanging pleasantries for a moment, he gets to the point of his call: “There’s a new movie coming out this weekend. Would you like to check it out on Saturday?” By Friday, Steven is checking in to confirm things and then… Oh, wait—that’s 1984, not 2014. Now when a guy does actually ask a girl out, there’s barely enough time for her to do the necessary date-prep work.

    #8 Men don’t take charge of dating plans anymore

    There are few things more frustrating than when you finally decide to go out with a guy for dinner and he leaves all of the decisions of where to eat up to you. Not only is he showing his lack of real interest in showing you a good time, he’s running the risk of you going over his budget for the evening. Besides, women love it when a man takes charge but at the same time is open to her opinion.

    #7 Men don’t show up at your door with a gift/token anymore

    I don’t know when this stopped but I know it was a long time ago. Way back when, a guy would arrive to pick up his date holding something as simple as a single flower, teddy bear, or a book that she said she wanted to read. Wow… I don’t know if anyone does that anymore.

    #6 Men don’t work at impressing anymore

    Something happened with the media advancement of today’s age and the need to impress women. Men now seem to be under the assumption that women are supposed to impress them. I’m sure there are many places to point the finger but women have been tricked into thinking that they are supposed to be working at the pleasure of men in the virtual world and in real life. What happened to men working to prove that they are worthy and capable of being with a woman? Something is definitely wrong here.

    #5 Men don’t give meaningful compliments anymore

    Men whistling or giving a catcall when a woman walks down the street is nothing new. But that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m referring to men ONLY taking notice of a woman’s physical attributes. And I’m not referring to locker room jargon, either. I’m talking about a man extending this nonsense onto the woman and trying to pass it off as compliments.

    #4 Men don’t ask women to dance anymore

    You’re at a club or even a private party and unlike back in the day when there were couples, there are groups of women on the dance floor and men standing on the sidelines either ogling them or ignoring them all together. Now if a woman doesn’t ask a man to dance, she’s stuck with not dancing at all or only getting off the wall to join in on a line dance.

    #3 Men don’t buy drinks anymore

    Not only are women not being asked to dance, men don’t offer to buy a woman a drink anymore. However, they have no problem taking up her time talking while sipping on theirs.

    #2 Men don’t make phone calls anymore

    I am all about modern technology but not to the chagrin of authentic communication. Texting is not a way to get to know someone. Texting is for, “I’m on my way,” “I’m running late,” not for, “What kind of work do you do?” and “Tell me about yourself.” Everyone being short on time and wanting to do things quickly has reduced us to this format of interaction and it just doesn’t work.

    #1 Men don’t accept rejection anymore

    I don’t know if men just don’t know how to take it or they’ve become more sensitive than they used to be, but they seem to be terrified of rejection. And this is the reason they don’t do the things listed here anymore. There is no middle ground—you know the man who puts in the effort and work to get the woman. Instead, they either don’t try at all or they don’t take ‘no’ for an answer.

    Why Don’t They?

    The main reason that all of these things don’t happen anymore is because women, at large, stopped requiring them. We’ve turned men into lazy daters. You could argue that a guy is just not interested when he takes the short cuts, but I don’t think that’s it. Even when he’s genuinely interested, he doesn’t have to call—he can text; he doesn’t have to take a woman on a real date—today’s woman is fine with the meet-up; he doesn’t have to take notice of her brains and compassion—they go unnoticed because of her blossoming cleavage and big behind. I have always declared to be a romantic while making it very clear, however, that I am not a hopeless one, but I really wish we could just go back.

    Thoughts??

    #544952
    IRuleMe
    IRuleMe
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    Hey guys,

    Learn from me, the dumbest f~~~ on the planet, who thought it was a good idea to meet up with old friends I hadn’t seen in 13 years. I’m kicking myself now for indulging in my curiosity. What was I hoping or expecting to get from it? I really don’t know.

    Tonight I went over to my main ‘friends’ house, who has a brother I was friends with as well. Everything is fine, we’re drinking beers and talking about movies. He asked me what I thought about Christopher Nolan and I said I think hes a f~~~ing hack. We then went onto watch Duel by Stephen Spielberg, he starts going on about Fascistbook and I said only f~~~~~s, manginas and cucks use that website. Well, he lost his s~~~ and went onto lecture me about being ‘negative’ and then he got personal and said he never really wanted to see me again etc.

    We then finally had it out. 13 years off s~~~ i wanted to get off my chest.

    The conversation become really dark and hostile and I told him I was leaving as I didn’t want to waste my time arguing with a 4 eyed privileged c~~~ who was 30 and never left his parents house who thought he could lecture me on life when he has ZERO life experience.

    As I walked off I was so angry with myself for bothering with this f~~~ing loser. He’s turned into this self righteous emasculated liberal left wing c~~~.

    He even told me I was a woman hater when we went out to spray that liquid ass for fun months ago, and said i deliberately targeted women. Complete bulls~~~.

    I take full responsibility for getting in touch with these f~~~wits again. Avoid this s~~~ at all costs because these people turn into dickheads.

    I will not censor or filter my f~~~ing speech or conversation incase it might offend some manginas delicate snowflake sensibilities or feelings. Ever.

    Imagine being with a ‘mate’ and having to tip toe round him, careful of what you might say next. F~~~ that. He was also really disrespectful and condescending and truly believed he was way above me the whole time he was mouthing off. I never once felt like punching the c~~~ but I realised what a horrible, nasty f~~~ing c~~~ sucker he really is inside.

    Friend is a euphemism for C~~~.

    Liberals always have one hand in your pocket and the other over your mouth. You’re not allowed to have an opinion, but they want your money just the same.

    53ClicksUp
    53ClicksUp
    Participant

    We’ve all known since high school that “those girls” who smoked pot out in back of the school, had hardware installed in their noses/lips/eye brows, and sported the tramp stamp tattoos on their backs, were the white trash of the neighborhood. Everybody could get a little slice of them under the bleachers anytime they wanted.

    That said, I can testify to the fact that my “crazy ex” exhibited all those behaviors described in that quasi scientific study. She had the tramp stamp tattoo, a Gothic cross on her breast, and some kind of stupid smiling crescent moon thing above her shoulder blade on her back.

    She of course turned out to be a total slut/bitch/whore, attempted suicide a few times, popped pills for all occasions and ailments, claimed to have been molested at 13, and suffered from both narcissistic and bipolar personality disorders.

    She did an amazingly good job of concealing all this s~~~ in the beginning of the relationship. But she couldn’t keep the facade up for more than a year or so. Then like a stupid f~~~ing idiot, I chose to then ignore the red flags because the sex was pretty darn good and I married the c~~~. Then the s~~~ really started to fly.

    It was always some kind of crazy stupid s~~~ going on with her. Not her paying taxes, over spending on clothes, getting breast implants and then not paying for them, traffic tickets, expired driver’s license or dead car tags, constantly pursued by collection agencies, no liability insurance, constant problems at work, with her kids, her parents, computer viruses from visiting on-line psychics or horoscopes, blown head gaskets in her car from not keeping enough engine coolant in it. It was never ending and I put up with all that s~~~ and more, for 7 years. Finally, I said adios to her and rode off into the sunset. The divorce didn’t cost a dime because she was afraid to appear in court.

    Thank God I was able to escape that madness! It’s amazing how calm my life has been for the past 5 years since I left her. Yep, from the empirical data I’ve gathered, I’d say that tattoos indicate a lot of what you can expect from a woman.

    #544810

    Hey guys,

    Learn from me, the dumbest f~~~ on the planet, who thought it was a good idea to meet up with old friends I hadn’t seen in 13 years. I’m kicking myself now for indulging in my curiosity. What was I hoping or expecting to get from it? I really don’t know.

    Tonight I went over to my main ‘friends’ house, who has a brother I was friends with as well. Everything is fine, we’re drinking beers and talking about movies. He asked me what I thought about Christopher Nolan and I said I think hes a f~~~ing hack. We then went onto watch Duel by Stephen Spielberg, he starts going on about Fascistbook and I said only f~~~~~s, manginas and cucks use that website. Well, he lost his s~~~ and went onto lecture me about being ‘negative’ and then he got personal and said he never really wanted to see me again etc.

    We then finally had it out. 13 years off s~~~ i wanted to get off my chest.

    The conversation become really dark and hostile and I told him I was leaving as I didn’t want to waste my time arguing with a 4 eyed privileged c~~~ who was 30 and never left his parents house who thought he could lecture me on life when he has ZERO life experience.

    As I walked off I was so angry with myself for bothering with this f~~~ing loser. He’s turned into this self righteous emasculated liberal left wing c~~~.

    He even told me I was a woman hater when we went out to spray that liquid ass for fun months ago, and said i deliberately targeted women. Complete bulls~~~.

    I take full responsibility for getting in touch with these f~~~wits again. Avoid this s~~~ at all costs because these people turn into dickheads.

    I will not censor or filter my f~~~ing speech or conversation incase it might offend some manginas delicate snowflake sensibilities or feelings. Ever.

    Imagine being with a ‘mate’ and having to tip toe round him, careful of what you might say next. F~~~ that. He was also really disrespectful and condescending and truly believed he was way above me the whole time he was mouthing off. I never once felt like punching the c~~~ but I realised what a horrible, nasty f~~~ing c~~~ sucker he really is inside.

    Friend is a euphemism for C~~~.

    #543944
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I got angry and limited her credit card to 1K a month and now she is not sleeping with me

    That’s “love”. You know……. “for better or worse”.

    Specifically, worse.

    I would tell him….

    ——- A RELATED STORY FROM A MARRIED MAN WHO’S WIFE PULLED THE SAME S~~~ ——

    One evening last week, my wife and I were getting into bed. Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says “I don’t feel like it, I just want you to hold me.” I said “WHAT????!!! What was that?!” So she says the words that every husband on the planet dreads hearing . . . . “You’re just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man.”

    She then responded to my puzzled look by saying:

    “Can’t you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?”

    Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night I went to sleep.

    The very next day, I opted to take the day off from work to spend time with her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big, unnamed department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She couldn’t decide which one to take so I told her we’ll just buy them all.

    She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said lets get a pair for each outfit. We went on to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. Let me tell you…. she was so excited.

    She must have thought I was one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn’t even know how to play tennis. I think I threw her for a loop when I said: “That’s fine, honey”.

    Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said:
    “I think this is all dear, let’s go to the cashier”.

    I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out: “On second thought, no honey, I don’t feel like it.”

    Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled “WHAT???!!!”

    “Really honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for awhile. You’re just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman.”

    And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added:
    “Why can’t you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?”

    Apparently I’m not having sex tonight either.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

    Anonymous

    Defeated by feminism??? It’s more like we’ve all been empowered by feminism to finally escape the plantation.

    #543483
    RedPillNexus
    RedPillNexus
    Participant

    This is reposted because I made a new email and a new account. I figured everyone needs some type of intro on their profile. I am still EnvyTheDefiance and have already graduated High School. This original post was put up in April of this year I believe. A little outdated with some of the background details, but eye opening nonetheless.

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    BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF BEFORE THE STORY:

    I am 18 and close to finally graduating high school. Now I may be young, but being young or being (say in your late 20s) does not change the fact that you can experience pain from love. Over the course of my 4 years in high school, I must say that love hurts, a lot. I have fallen for some wrong people when I was young, and it really sucked. From getting fake numbers, to being ignored, to even seeing the girl talk to multiple guys at the same time. Hell, there was even a time where person had interest in me and just fell off of the face of the Earth to me one day. I was of course young at that time, but it still has a small impact and makes me think sometimes.

    Some interests I have are playing video games on a few different systems, (Xbox, Wii U, PC). I also ride my motorcycle to cleanse my mind from stress and have fun every second I’m doing it. I don’t have a huge career goal after high school. I don’t plan on going to a college since I have been opposed to it. I would rather just go straight into work or go to a trade school if it came to needed that. I plan to work on cars with my dad after enough years of build up from experience.

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    I’m not very good at doing things like this, but I can work with what I can.

    November of 2015, I had interest in a girl who had many of the same interests as me. We talked frequently, until I heard about her boyfriend/exboyfriend (I don’t know who he was to her to this day). In the midst of us having a usual conversation, I get a text from him. He threatened to hurt me and bring his friends along. Huge red flag. (My luck having my first love go sour). She was naive and gave him my number… I couldn’t understand what logic that could have consisted of. She consistently said sorry and told me not to call police on him. I wish I did do it.

    Second comes from February of 2016, where I met a girl at my workplace. She admitted to me that she was interested in me, and just broke up with her ex. We talked for awhile and even hung out a few times. Until, the red flags started sprouting like wildfire. She began to ignore me at work sometimes, barely bat an eye to my existence. I saw on social media that she would be hanging out with her “ex” a lot more. Interesting. I think one of the funniest posts, was that she said she was seeing a movie with him, 10 minutes after she told me that she has a lot of homework to do. Must not be that much homework then. I even confronted her numerous times about it and she said over and over that she didn’t care for him anymore (Lies). I did get back at her overtime at work however. Short on staff? Sucks I just left at the time that I was supposed to. I’d leave her more work to do.

    At this point, I started to become numb to relations~~~s. I tried over and over to people I stupidly fell for. Rejection after rejection. Ignore after ignore (one word answers as well). Left at read after left at read. I was at the point, where I didn’t want anyone unless they’d come to me. I began to realize at that point, that I shouldn’t give my time for someone who doesn’t do the same. I had this thought only until something that happened about two weeks ago.

    A girl began to talk to me. I thought, for once I don’t have to bust my ass trying to find a person who doesn’t appreciate me. There was one red flag that was probably larger than the Chinese flag. She already had a boyfriend, that she was seriously into. We talked about an assortment of stuff. Some of the things, I don’t even talk to my closest friends about. Very private things that stayed close. I really thought that down the road, I could get her. I really did. I really DID. I really thought that I could steal her away from her boyfriend (Sorry not sorry). We talked all hours of the day via texting, and we even hung out a few times. Behind the boyfriend’s back. I kind of liked this, because it was secretive. At the same time though, it proves she isn’t loyal (how do I know she isn’t talking to someone behind my back and his?) I asked her a serious question about why she is talking to me while already in a relationship. What she told me next really began to rewire my brain together.

    She told me she has a history at playing with guys hearts and leaving them. Really? I honestly regret asking that in hopes of getting something out of whatever ‘this’ was. WAS. We didn’t talk at all for the next two days. She didn’t even talk to me in school. I, being the idiotic fool who thought there was still hope, wanted to fix things. I decided to message her about the whole thing and tried to fix things and make them right again. We talked about so much, it would hurt to throw it all behind and walk away from. I thought it was going good again when I was trying to repair it, and then it turned into being ignored. Fantastic.

    I think I had enough with doing this. I cannot keep doing this if failure is the only thing I get out of anyone I like. In times of loneliness and being depressed, I found MGTOW and began to research more on it.

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    I have realized that it’s not worth it anymore to try and get someone. If they don’t put time into you, you DON’T put time into them. They become an obstacle in your life that never had to be there in the first place. I still believe that NAWALT, but at the same time I don’t see a major point in getting married and/or having kids. I’ve read number of stories, with wives leave the man, take the kids, money, car, and everything the man worked for. I’ve also seen stories of women cheating, and completely destroying men’s confidence and care for finding someone else. On top of this, the double standards are also not fair between women and men. The system is rigged, and needs to be fixed. The problem is, whether it is too late or not.

    Being asked where is my girlfriend, why am I a virgin, get annoying after a while. But I’ve realized, that they are not everything. My goals and happiness go farther than a person to fall for. My self-esteem to finding someone one day has been shattered, and I don’t think I care anymore. The red pill hurts at first, but eventually it feels good. It feels good to see the truth in many situations.

    Who am I to talk though? Since I am just a ‘kid’ with no relationship experience, my words don’t matter. I have no experience so I must be forced to live the stereotypical life that others do. I must be forced by society to go to college, flush away thousands on student loans, get married and be forced to start a family, and pass it all down. Knowing nowadays, the chances that a marriage may last are 50/50. (Hence, I have read a number of forums listed under Relations~~~s and Dating. If I can’t even find a woman to fall in love with for a short period of time, hell will freeze over when I find someone that will last forever. I’d rather focus on what makes me happy. Forget double standards. Forget the women who wrong me. Forget the ones who don’t support me. After all, there should be more men going their own way nowadays. Just saying.

    As the men below me sift through the fog of despair to find the one they call soulmate, I sit at the highest peak of the tallest mountain embracing the self sovereignty.

    #543351
    NomadicExpat
    NomadicExpat
    Participant

    I believe my old dream may still be worth pursuing…. a cabin in the woods where I can be a hermit and be left the f~~~ alone.

    Is it still possible, with hyper inflation and property taxes, as women and government ceaselessly look for more ways to financially rape capable, working Men?

    I once lived in a cabin in the woods (paid rent though). Spiders tried to build a web around the entire cabin like spiderman. It was a royal f~~~ to combat. They were constantly attacking me when I went outside onto the deck, and they worked together to attack in very stealthy ways.

    That’s a true story.

    Wherever there is wheat, weeds will grow around it.

    Plants, animals, people… they constantly attack you. Unfortunately, that is the way of the world. Dog eat dog.

    Another problem is that every piece of land in this country is owned, most stolen by Beaureu of Land Management.

    Thanks for the real life insight. Ive been dreaming of an Off-Grid capable place for sometime now, but understand academically that it will be a daily fight with nature.

    I dont envision a John the Baptist type of existence, but a quasi normal life in the boonies where things wont be too bad when Western Civilization finally lets out its death howl. Most people dont have enough food in their house to go more than a few days, and I dont want a basement full of MREs.

    A basic garden, a chicken coop and some solar panels. Enough to make it through a crisis. I still plan on working a job for normal living expenses and paying off land and home, but when the next wave of riots go down and the shelves are bare, at least Ill have some regenerating food assets at hand.

    Oh, and a fresh water well.

    Im fully aware how dependent I am on a system that is grinding itself to a halt.

    #543138
    53ClicksUp
    53ClicksUp
    Participant

    Not to fear!

    My motorcycle riding buddies and I are mobilized and plan to re-deploy North of the Mason-Dixon Line. We will stop short on the U.S. side of the Canadian border and masquerade as “tourists” sampling wine from various vineyards in the Finger Lakes Region of the People’s Democratic Socialist Republic of New York.

    There we will perform a final weapons/ammo check, covertly gather Intel on the disposition of Canadian military forces and conduct psyops on long unemployed/alcoholic welfare-state New Yorkers.

    We will await your signal to invade. This signal should consist of first interrupting CNN’s 2 year long, 24 hour a day, 7 day a week broadcasting of anti-Trump fake news. You will then broadcast a 10 minute long image of Max Headroom drinking Labatts beer and scratching his nuts. The attack will commence at dawn the following day. You and your forces must secure the gayly named Rainbow Bridgehead on the Canadian side of Niagara Falls.

    #542669

    In reply to: Fun with ultimatums

    Daryll55
    Daryll55
    Participant

    Condensed original Quote,….[Gentlemen, please, if you don’t mind, share the last time you knew your “romantic” relationship wasn’t going anywhere and yet, you had to face a ridiculous ultimatum to take the “next step” from the “lady” of the day. ]

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The “romantic” relationship goes downhill as soon as the ancillary/incidental/surprise BLOWJOBS disappear, and YOU need to suggest/ask for them by making innuendo.

    Most women I dated, knew exactly the kind of man I was; So “the next step” usually came silently, or as a suggestion somehow.
    A woman I dated yrs ago lived 2hours away from me, so it was easier for her to spend the weekend at my place, and we would go do whatever activity we had planned from my place. This worked out ok, UNTIL I realized that her toiletries were staying at my place. A few weeks later and her clothes started appearing in my closet. She said it was out of “convenience.” but had 1/3 of her stuff at my place. Sure enough,…. she was silently moving herself into my place. I kicked her to the curb by making myself scarce. Finally I told her I met someone else (true, but not serious),and she needed to come get her things. BTW, the surprise BLOWJOBS had stopped already when the clothes started appearing in my closet.

    A few women have given me ultimatums,which were met by instant negativity. it was OBVIOUS what happens next.

    Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)


    Anonymous

    MGTOW Are White Supreamacists Who Want To Destroy Black Families

    How do I comment on such an outrageous accusation, I choose to remain silent.

    I will say one thing, look at the butchery and marketing of fresh cut human beings in the slaughter houses of Planned Parenthood, not one criminal prosecution, just like the politicians trading their souls for our enslavement.

    Justice is coming on the four horses of the Apocalypse.

    I can hear the clopping of horses and clattering of weaponry off in the distance.

    Evil has finally reached inversion on all things true and just.

    Us being the “cause” of their suffering and destruction is absolutely slanderous and preposterous, I know who’s holding the body bag full of dead babies, but who am I to say? I’m divorced by the laws holding up heaven from that society of the woefully unjust, forever separated until death do we part…

    IRuleMe
    IRuleMe
    Participant

    Children cost at least a half million dollars. Do you have a half million dollars to spend? The woman gets pregnant. Okay, now you’re paying for tests in the hospital. No big deal right? You make several visits over a couple of months… Who would notice a couple hundred bucks each visit. Now you’re spending extra money on food. Why? Because she’s eating for two and she’s f~~~ing hungry. Well now that you’re woman is pregnant, the apartment you were living in doesn’t cut it anymore. You need a house. There’s a couple hundred thousand. Hope you don’t have to fix anything first…

    Now it’s time. It’s been 8 months, and now in the final month she’s dialating. Which is causing more trips to the hospital because she keeps thinking the baby is coming. Meanwhile, that new house you bought needs stuff for the baby. So now you’re off to buy the essentials… Diapers, baby wipes, a crib… Now her water breaks. Back to the hospital you go. More bills. Only this time, she’s going in to deliver. Now the heavy charges come. The nurses do the prepping, perhaps inject her with some drugs to ease the process along… Now the doctor is here. He ain’t cheap. “Push” he says. “Push”. She’s pushing, and yelling and blaming you “you did this to MEEEEEEEE!!!!” “Push, breath, breath, push” he says. Now the baby is out.

    Here comes the next batch of expenses. Filing all the paperwork, moving her to another room, more charges for hospital care and s~~~ty food. Momma and baby are gonna be here for a few days. If you don’t have insurance that’s $16-20,000 a day. So now, after lots of rest and care, mommy and baby are home. Now you need clothes for the little s~~~. Cha-ching. More money out of your bank account. “No big deal”, you think.. Until the baby gets by the mommy milk stage and gets into formula stage. That money is going quick man. More diapers, more wipes, more formula…

    Now he starts teething, and with teeth comes solid foods. With solid foods and time comes guess what… More clothes. That baby clothes doesn’t fit. Well guess what! You can’t take it back. So what do you do? Throw it away. Maybe give it to someone you know. Either way, money wasted. Perhaps you decide to save it thinking you will have ANOTHER kid. Mommy will certainly want to save it. It gives her memories.

    Now the kid is growing. And for the next 17 years you’ll constantly be taking him to the store to buy clothes. Why? Because he will quickly outgrow it. But that’s not all your expenses. At first it started out harmless. A few baby toys, something to entertain him. Only the toys get more intricate, and more expensive the older he gets. Once he graduates from the action figures that cost $10 a piece to the video games, you’re dumping 400-700 bills on a video game system. Maybe you luck out. Maybe you already have it because you’re a guy who likes to play games in his spare time. Well, remember when you would spend $60-70 a game for yourself? Now you’re spending that for your kid to play HIS games. And paying for all his school supplies, and whatever he needs for whatever after school stuff he gets into, gas to drive him around, money so he can hang with his friends…

    Now he’s approaching the end of high school. He’s ready to drive and wants a car. Now.. You could be a cheap dad, and drop a couple hundred bucks on a bulls~~~ car fixer uper, but you probably won’t. And what comes with having a car? Insurance and car maintenance. Which rest assured is most likely coming out of your pocket. As is the money for him to hang with his pals at the mall all summer. Maybe you’re lucky. Maybe you crack the whip and make him get a job. You’re one of the lucky ones.

    Now high school is done, and it’s off to the next step in life. Maybe junior wasn’t so great in school and decides on community college. Know what words you’ll be hearing next? “hey dad….” Now let’s say your kid IS smart and ends up at a full fledge college. He says “dad, I wanna go for my masters”. That’s 4 good years of payments where you could have bought a new car or house. At least 5 figures. Let’s say junior grads and doesn’t flame out and drop out. Then hopefully your kid will end up with a 5 or 6 figure income where he can do the same thing you just did. Or worst case, he’ll flame out with bad grades because he was too busy partying to take it seriously. Now think of all the money you just spend on his tuition. Now guess where he is… Back home living with mommy and daddy.

    I ask again. Do you have a half million dollars? If you do, what are you doing to do with that money? What will you invest it in?

    Seriously, you need to speak the same post in front of an audience, because what you said was true and very accurate and it could salvage a lot of guys from taking that major plunge.

    That’s just the kid, then there’s making sure the wife is all taken care of. So technically the man is spending his life and money and energy on wife and kids.

    No thanks. What you detailed is the exact reason I won’t get married and have kids. I rather spend that time and money on buying a comfortable house and furnish it entirely to my liking and my Dave And Busters style game room in the lower level.

    Don’t forget the dorm expenses, and the books that junior needs for class. Cha-ching, cha-ching.

    Reality is, planting your seed is an investment. Having a child, furthering your line costs money. It’s not free. You’re investing in the future of your child if you take that gamble. Or, you can choose to invest that money in yourself. Making a million dollars is not that hard if you have a decent job. A person who takes home $50,000 a year after taxes can have a quarter of a million dollars in 5 years. That’s without investing it at all.

    Think about how many people you know who, make good money but are f~~~ing broke as s~~~. People who, given how long they’ve been in the work force could be multi-millionaires already. It boils down to making smart financial decisions. Those people who make good money but are broke make poor financial decisions. Having a child is included in that.

    #540471
    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
    Participant

    This is incrementalism. It’s a strategy of advancing toward your goal in such tiny little steps that it is not apparent what the final goal actually is.

    If they get period leave, they will not be happy. Very soon, there will be something else they demand. It will be some other freebie that men must earn and provide to them for nothing in return. I’ve heard of companies with large numbers of female employees that have ‘mental health days’ as paid days off. You can guess who takes those days.

    The actual goal here is ownership of a man’s earnings without reciprocity. It is the entitlement to a portion (or all) of a man’s earnings without having to provide anything of value to him. In a lot of places in the world, they still call this slavery. We currently have a tax system that taxes everyone at equal rates, but ends up taking more from men because we work harder to earn more. It is then redistributed by the government as unearned income to women in a variety of ‘social programs’ without any reciprocity from them to the men who earned it. The separate social security tax here in the US also taxes everyone equally based on income. It is touted as a fund to finance retirement, but since women live longer than men after retiring, it is really just another redistribution plan.

    Women collect from the government without having to ask a man face to face. The government makes sure he can’t say no. As women start to pay more and more of the taxes, this starts to back fire on itself. They are now in the workforce having to pay more taxes. It does them little good to collect unequally in social programs if they had to earn the money to pay the taxes for those programs. Predictably, the next step is this one: demand equal numbers in the company’s workforce and equal pay from the company, but find a way to make men earn it for you. That way when you pay the taxes on that paycheck, you have already gotten a man to earn that money.

    I think the ultimate goal is for women not to work, but to receive and own at least 50% of the money that men earn. Back in the day, they had to marry you and pretend, at least for a while, to give a s~~~ about you in order to sit at home and collect half your earnings. Now, they don’t even want to go through the motions of pretending. They want to sit at home and have the government collect for them. This way, even gay or single men still have to pay them…

    Period leave is just an incremental advance toward that goal. It’ll be 3 days a month, but the days will be chosen by women. You can bet your ass they will never start a period on a Friday. Every period will start on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday because there’s no value to having a period on a weekend when you’re already off. With 4 weeks in a month and 5 days in a week, 3 days a month is 3/20, or 15% less time at work for the same half of the company’s payroll.

    Incrementalism.

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #540312
    Foolsgold
    foolsgold
    Participant

    He can turn them down because he doesn’t need the money. What he also told me is that most of these women are planning their exit. They just want the final nail in the coffin. Yes, he is a top bloke.


    Anonymous

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-little-valentine8217s-day-straight-talk-1392333230?tesla=y#

    Susan Patton: A Little Valentine’s Day Straight Talk

    Another Valentine’s Day. Another night spent ordering in sushi for one and mooning over “Downton Abbey” reruns. Smarten up, ladies. (The slaves are waking up to the scam of “Alpha F~~~s & Beta Bucks”).

    Despite all of the focus on professional advancement, for most of you the cornerstone of your future happiness will be the man you marry. But chances are that you haven’t been investing nearly as much energy in planning for your personal happiness as you are planning for your next promotion at work.

    What are you waiting for?

    You’re not getting any younger, but the competition for the men you’d be interested in marrying most definitely is. (As big daddy government and the manginas prop you up on your “highly educated” pedestals and help you become more “accomplished” than men, you’re going to find fewer and fewer empty spots on the hypergamous ladder.)

    Think about it: If you spend the first 10 years out of college focused entirely on building your career, when you finally get around to looking for a husband you’ll be in your 30s, competing with women in their 20s. That’s not a competition in which you’re likely to fare well. If you want to have children, your biological clock will be ticking loud enough to ward off any potential suitors. Don’t let it get to that point. (The pickings are getting slimmer, bitches. Lock down the plantation gates and mind the fences, before the slaves start bolting.)

    You should be spending far more time planning for your husband than for your career—and you should start doing so much sooner than you think. (Men are becoming hip to the scam, they’re learning they don’t need us and we need them desperately!) This is especially the case if you are a woman with exceptionally good academic credentials, aiming for corporate stardom. (Your hypergamy is going to get harder and harder to satisfy.)

    An extraordinary education is the greatest gift you can give yourself. (Milk the pedestalizing instincts of the pussy sniffers and white knights.) But if you are a young woman who has had that blessing, the task of finding a life partner who shares your intellectual curiosity and potential for success is difficult.

    (You’re going to find your hypergamy is a tough bitch.)

    Those men who are as well-educated as you are often interested in younger, less challenging women. (Alphas don’t need to put up with your entitled attitude with only hollow credentialism to back it up. They prefer females who’ll serve them, not the other way around.)

    Could you marry a man who isn’t your intellectual or professional equal? Sure. But the likelihood is that it will be frustrating to be with someone who just can’t keep up with you or your friends. (Hypergamy is a bitch.) When the conversation turns to Jean Cocteau or Henrik Ibsen, the Bayeux Tapestry or Noam Chomsky, you won’t find that glazed look that comes over his face at all appealing. (You’ll lose the competition for status among your fellow bitches). And if you start to earn more than he does? Forget about it. (That bitch called hypergamy will REALLY bite you hard in the ass if this happens!) Very few men have egos that can endure what they will see as a form of emasculation. (Men like t~~~ & ass, not your intellectual pretensions).

    So what’s a smart girl to do? Start looking early and stop wasting time dating men who aren’t good for you: bad boys, crazy guys and married men. (Don’t gamble your currency on increasingly worse odds.)

    College is the best place to look for your mate. It is an environment teeming with like-minded, age-appropriate single men with whom you already share many things. You will never again have this concentration of exceptional men to choose from. (These men will start making real money and have desperate bitches outside the campus falling on their dicks day & night.)

    When you find a good man, take it slow. Casual sex is irresistible to men, but the smart move is not to give it away. If you offer intimacy without commitment, the incentive to commit is eliminated. The grandmotherly message of yesterday is still true today: Men won’t buy the cow if the milk is free. (The beta slaves are wising up to the game.)

    Can you meet brilliant, marriageable men after college? Yes, but just not that many of them. Once you’re living off campus and in the real world, you’ll be stunned by how smart the men are not. You’ll no doubt meet some eligible guys in your workplace, but it’s hazardous to get romantically involved with co-workers. (There are far too many bitches desperately hunting for a wallet outside the campus, do you really want to have to compete with them?)

    You may not be ready for marriage in your early 20s (or maybe you are), but keep in touch with the men that you meet in college, especially the super smart ones. They’ll probably do very well for themselves, and their desirability will only increase after graduation. (If you really can’t resist riding the carousel full time, fine, enjoy the ride but atleast make sure to keep some orbiters who’ll disregard your thousand-c~~~ stare, man up and marry your slut ass once you reach 30).

    Not all women want marriage or motherhood, (the carousel is just too alluring) but if you do, you have to start listening to your gut and avoid falling for the P.C. feminist line that has misled so many young women for years. There is nothing incongruous about educated, ambitious women wanting to be wives and mothers.

    Don’t let anyone tell you that these traditional roles are retrograde; they are perfectly natural and even wonderful. And if you fail to identify “the one” while you’re in college, don’t worry—there’s always graduate school.(But you’d best get your act together soon lest the slaves escape the plantation, leaving you behind with just the cats).

    Thoughts??

    #537991
    SMAD
    SMAD
    Participant

    Greetings All,

    I made a post a while ago about the power of “Feigning Beta” and thought I would share a real life and recent example of this with you. Note that whilst this is aimed at “Dating MGTOW”, this topic is of course open to all who have their comments / views on it.

    So, to briefly cover what “Feigning Beta” is – it’s basically pretending to be the blue bill guy you were before MGTOW and red pill came along and opened your eyes. Think about it – when you were dating and these women stopped being “into you” – as a blue pill guy, you would wonder what went wrong, why do nice guys finish last, etc etc.

    Well, what if, with red pill insight, you could actually USE this “nice guy” to your advantage? This is Feigning Beta in basic terms.

    So anyway, I was recently dating a girl and a few red flags popped up fairly quickly, but it wasn’t really costing me much – just a few drinks and travel expenses but got a few cheeky shags out of it. Anyway, some of these red flag warnings became more prominent and indicators of a potential “clingy psycho” were emerging.

    Now, calling this off in a “red pill” manner would most likely backfire. Being a proper “man” and showing assertiveness would in all likeliness make her MORE attracted and hard to get rid of – i.e. going into an alpha mode. This is where Feigning Beta comes in.

    Thinking back to things I did as a much younger man to repel women (in a nice way of course) – I started doing these things. Being a bit too intense emotionally, opening up and sharing personal details that reduce any alpha male attributes and basically stop being the guy she was attracted to.

    Guess what…That’s exactly what happened. “Oh SMAD, you are a great guy but I don’t feel the chemistry or spark with you. I have feelings but…as a FRIEND.”

    YES ! RESULT ! Of course, outwardly, the Feigning Beta tactic continues and being a nice guy and accepting second rate behaviour “of course, I will still be friends with you, but if you change your mind, I would love for us to have another go.”

    Another week passes – continuing the Feign Beta. To cement the “repulsiveness” I ask out on “friend dates.” Finally, I receive a message saying that “she has started seeing her ex again and doesn’t think it would be appropriate to spend time together.”

    F~~~ING JACKPOT.

    The calculating aspect of my personality loves when a plan comes together. Internally, I am glad to be free from a potential nightmare and also to meet someone new and different, but done so without violence / arguments / hassle and very little cost. Externally, of course I feel a bit “woe is me” to HER friends and to some extent, my own.

    Interestingly enough, the ex she went back to displays “Chad” like characteristics. I thank him for his sacrifice and taking a potential crazy out of the “market.”

    And that, my brothers, is how you execute Feigning Beta. Of course, I am aware of the risks of dating women in general, but with red pill foresight and what many members have called “oil change dating”, suddenly it doesn’t seem all that terrible. When work mates / acquaintances ask why I am still single, my “public” response is that I just haven’t been lucky enough to meet the right lady yet, but I am still trying.

    Hahahahaha.

    I look forward to the comments and of anyone elses examples of “Feigning Beta” – something essential for any dating MGTOW to have in their tool box (in my humble opinion.)

    Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

    #537125

    Anonymous

    The man wants to bring trump down. just look at his Twitter (nasty comments against its supporters, his son, Trump himself… Ill just tell it straight…yes I LOVE Donald Trump. I like what hes doing, I like his b~~~~ (not literally) I like how he went after Hillary, the WHOLE establishment/media is against him and that tells you everything you need to know. 98 percent of what he has done so far has been spot on…do I have to remind any of you of the countless attacks hes done against the mainstream media (which is MGTOW enemy) and its BS…I could go on. Leykis IS in the media game and Hollywood. He’s a lefty with a MGTOW slant which I guess makes him somewhat Unique.

    Leykis on Twitter July 12th:
    ” Oh yeah , hes thriving alright. Wheres the wall? Healthcare, Coal Jobs, and carrier Jobs? You know what he hasnt accomplished S~~~”

    List of Donald Trumps achievements:

    Trump was inaugurated on January 20, 2017, giving one of the strongest inauguration addresses in American history.[1][2][3] His first bill signed as president was to allow retired general and Defense Secretary nominee James Mattis to be confirmed.[4] Trump had a very busy and productive first week, undoing Obama’s legacy and instituting conservative executive orders.[5][6][7] He had already made a reasonably large impact by his 50th day in office.[8]

    President Trump accomplished many of his campaign promises by his 100th day in office, and he had already made significant progress by then, most notably by reducing regulations, enforcing American immigration laws, and appointing and having the Senate confirm his Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.[9][10][11] In his first 100 days as president, Trump signed the most pieces of legislation of any president since Harry Truman and more executive orders than any previous president.[12] By his 100th day, it was clear that Trump had disrupted the liberal political establishment consensus.[13] Additionally, a poll taken shortly before the 100th day of Trump’s presidency indicated that 96% of his supporters would have voted for him again had an election been held that day.[14] A May 2017 poll showed Trump with 98% support among Republican military veterans and 54% overall.[15] Similar polls taken mainly around the same time gave the same results.[16] Additionally, a Pew Research poll indicated that over three-fourths of “white evangelical Protestants” approved of Trump’s performance.[17] These people, as well as members of the Tea Party Movement,[18] did not believe the media and left-wingers in their war against President Trump.

    It was reported on June 10, 2017, that President Trump had signed 37 bills into law, more than each of the previous four presidents, and the U.S. House had passed 158 bills, “making it the most productive in the modern-era,” according to GOP House leaders.[19] Overall, the legislature was relatively productive by mid-2017.[20]

    Despite opposition to Trump from the Left, it was reported in April 2017 that congressional Republicans were more united during Trump’s presidency than in any other time in recent U.S. political history.[21]

    March 27, 2017—One of the four Congressional Review bills that Trump signed into law that day repealed Obama’s Blacklisting Rule, which would have required firms contracted by federal agencies to disclose every claim of unfair labor practices concerning them – something which would have given unionized contractors an upper-hand. On the same day, President Trump signed an executive order repealing the contracting rule.[1]
    Executive actions
    January 20, 2017—On his first day in office, Trump signed an executive order that would lessen Obamacare’s burden while Republicans work to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.[2][3]
    February 22, 2017—President Trump rescinded former President Obama’s pro-transgender guidelines for schools receiving federal aid that are subject to Title IX.[4] A day earlier, the Trump Administration announced it would discontinue Obama’s pro-transgender policies.[5]
    March 27, 2017—President Trump signed an executive order repealing Obama-era labor law compliance requirements[1] for federal contractors, along with signing a resolution of disapproval that day on the same topic.[6]
    April 14, 2017—President Trump appointed Roger Severino, a strong defender of religious liberty, to the HHS Office for Civil Rights.[7][8]
    April 14, 2017—The Justice Department dropped its discrimination lawsuit against North Carolina for its “bathroom bill” (filed under the Obama Administration) after North Carolina passed a compromise bill. Homosexual activists still opposed the new bill.[9]
    May 1, 2017—The Agriculture Department took steps to give schools more flexibility in their school meal plans.[10]
    May 4, 2017—On the annual National Day of Prayer,[11] President Trump signed an executive order on religious liberty. Among its provisions, it loosened IRS restrictions against political activities by tax-exempt religious organizations, effectively weakening the Johnson Amendment; and it attempted to make it easier for employers not to provide contraceptives if they had religious objections.[12] The order gave conservative Attorney General Jeff Sessions greater authority regarding religious liberty policy.[13] Although well received by some Christians and conservatives,[14] others criticized it for being ineffective and easy to repeal.[15] Other members of the Trump Administration have shown strong support for religious liberty.[16]
    In May 2017, the Trump Administration began to undo Section 1557 of ObamaCare, which would have helped liberals gain transexual “rights” through the courts.[17]
    June 6, 2017—The Trump Administration appointed Valerie Huber, an abstinence education advocate, to the position of chief of staff to the assistant secretary for health at the HHS.[18]
    President Trump did not proclaim June 2017 as LGBT Pride Month, unlike former presidents Clinton and Obama.[19]

    Executive actions
    February 2017—Attorney General Sessions rescinded an Obama Administration memo that directed the Bureau of Prisons to begin phasing out private prisons.[6]
    February 9, 2017—President Trump signed three executive orders pertaining to law enforcement. The first cracked down and strengthens the law against international crime organizations, the second deals with anti-law enforcement crimes, and third with finding a strategy for reducing crime in general, “including, in particular, illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and violent crime.”[7]
    March 10, 2017—Attorney General Sessions asked the 46 remaining U.S. attorneys appointed by Obama, arguably the most left-wing president in U.S. history, to resign.[8][9] One of those U.S. attorneys was the failed Zachary Fardon, who was lax in his prosecution of gun crimes (Sessions directed the Justice Department to increase prosecutions on gun-law violations and to reinforce harsh sentences for such).[10] When one of those attorneys, Preet Bharara, refused to resign (likely for political gain), he was fired.[11] Later, in May 2017, more Obama holdovers left the Justice Department.[12]
    April 3, 2017—Attorney General Sessions ordered the Department of Justice to review Obama’s agreements with local police departments. Sessions made this order to give back local control to police departments.[13]
    April 13, 2017—The Justice Department prosecuted two doctors and one other for practicing female genital mutilation – the first such prosecutions under a federal law passed by Congress in 1996 prohibiting the practice.[14]
    May 9, 2017—Although he previously stated he was not planning on asking him to resign,[15] President Trump, at the recommendation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, fired Obama-appointed FBI director James Comey for being unfit to serve in the position.[16] Democrats and liberals were dismayed at the decision,[17] but it showed that Trump was serious about shaking up D.C. and “draining the swamp.”[18]
    May 11, 2017—Attorney General Sessions ended Obama and Eric Holder’s policy of pursuing light sentences for criminals when he ordered federal prosecutors to pursue “the most serious and readily provable offense” committed by those under prosecution.[19]
    June 7, 2017—Attorney General Sessions ended a policy begun by Eric Holder where the Justice Department would reach settlements with companies that required them to pay third-party groups, many of which were left-wing organizations.[20]
    June 20, 2017—Attorney General Sessions launched the National Public Safety Partnership as part of a wider DOJ effort at countering violent crime.[21]
    June 30, 2017—The Trump Administration sent 20 ATF agents to Chicago to help the city fight gun violence.[22] The local US Attorney said the same day that his office had already prosecuted more Chicago gun cases in 2017 than it had done throughout the entire year 2016.[23]
    July 13, 2017—The DOJ announced it had charged 412 people for health care fraud schemes that had defrauded taxpayers of $1.3 billion.[24]

    January 23, 2017—Trump signed an order which withdrew the United States from the globalist Trans-Pacific Partnership.[1]
    March 18, 2017—The Trump Administration forced the G-20 to remove its opposition to protectionism and its support for free trade from its joint statement.[2]
    March 31, 2017—President Trump signed two orders. The first order instituted a crackdown on violations of anti-dumping laws and help to officials to collect penalties already owed to the U.S. The second order ordered a report by the Department of Commerce and the U.S. Trade Representative on the causes of the U.S. trade deficit due within 90 days.[3][4]
    April 20, 2017—President Trump signed a memorandum directing the Department of Commerce to investigate whether steel imports pose a threat to U.S. national security.[5][6]
    April 25, 2017—After Canada changed its milk pricing policy, putting U.S. farmers at a severe disadvantage,[7] the Trump Administration imposed tariffs at rates up to 24% on Canadian lumber imports.[8]
    April 27, 2017—President Trump signed a memorandum opening a Department of Commerce investigation into whether the high level of aluminum imports constitutes a threat to U.S. national security.[9]
    April 29, 2017—President Trump signed two executive orders, one ordering the U.S. to review all of its free trade agreements including NAFTA, and the other establishing a White House trade policy office.[10][11]
    May 11, 2017—President Trump approved a trade deal with China which would increase American exports.[12]
    May 18, 2017—President Trump began the process of renegotiating NAFTA.[13]
    June 12, 2017—The U.S. and China made an agreement that would allow American beef products to be exported to China.[14] U.S. beef imports began entering China soon afterward.[15]
    July 8, 2017—In the final G-20 common statement, the Trump Administration, which was ideologically opposed by the other G-20 nations, successfully received concessions from them on the statement on trade.[16]

    1. A wall takes longer than 6 months to build.
    2. He tried Healthcare reforms and is still trying to do so(blocked by Dems and republicans)
    3.Carrier – deal negotiated BEFORE he was president…still going ahead as planned.
    4. Coal- Production plants are being started up again …and look at the stock reaction on coal. through the roof.

    I didn’t want this to be a political rant but I guess it has become one. None the less…I had to call out the BS for what it is.

    End of the day …I draw a line and some of you may not like it. thats eh ok with me. I guess if you are loving trump then we will get along just fine. If not…we probably won’t. the recent elections were not “just politics” its much more than that…anyone who is calling for the downfall of trump, wishing his son is in jail, calling trump supporters trash etc etc…are dead to me. Hillary should be in Jail, Bill should be in jail for rape… the list goes on. Anyone who wants to attack me on my stance..bring it…wont bother me one bit.

    MGTOW Knight
    MGTOW Knight
    Participant

    MANCLUSION: They’re nothing BUT c~~~s. And it’s all they will ever be.

    @keymaster you are always on point with your assessments!

    I have finally reached this logical conclusion.

    I don’t have to give them an explanation.

    I owe them nothing!

    Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

    #536185
    Stargazer
    Stargazer
    Participant

    I decided to put this into the political section because the punchline involves politics… but first a bit of background.

    I’ve been living on the road for the past three months and was all the way out in Florida when I got offered a few gigs back here in Las Vegas that I couldn’t pass up… so I high-tailed it back across the country and arrived in LV a few days ago.

    I’m not in the market to rent a house and don’t have any permanent residence so I figured I’d pull a reverse and mooch off some girls for a while. The first one offered to put me up for a week so I showed up at her place with my bag, staked out a corner and went about my business of working on my computer and editing my videos.

    That lasted three days. On the first night, she put on the TV to the Rachel Maddow show and then went on to explain to me that Trump is an idiot and Rachel is “so smart”. I didn’t respond.

    The next day she put on the Young Turks and asked me if I’d ever heard of their show. I feigned ignorance. “I don’t really watch TV.” I told her. “Well, they’re kind of a tech related show…” she replied. “Yeah, I don’t really watch TV but it’s your house so by all means, watch whatever you want.”

    The third day she turned on some coverage of the “health care” debate and, after going on for about 20 minutes about how much of an idiot Trump is without getting any response from me, she finally asked me point blank: “What do you think of this health care thing?”

    “Who’s talking about health care? This is about federally mandated health insurance coverage.”

    She looked at me like I’d pulled a rabbit out of my ass.

    “Let’s talk about healthcare. Are we as a nation prepared to force doctors, nurses and other healthcare practitioners to offer their services at prices capped by federal law? Are we prepared to negotiate with hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, medical imaging companies and medical supply producers to establish federally regulated quality and prices for their goods and services? Are we as a nation prepared to make determinations about who can and can not receive what procedures and medications based on the individual’s situation? Are we as a nation prepared to stop paying for liver transplants for alcoholics, bypass surgeries for the obese, chemotherapy for smokers and sex change operations for imprisoned pedophiles in order to make sure there are services available to otherwise innocent victims? Are we as a nation going to establish that, since medical care is a “human right” then air, food and shelter must ALSO be human rights and thereby declare that all humans everywhere should receive free life, supported and paid for by the State? Are we as a nation prepared to pay the taxes that would be required to establish and maintain these programs? I think not. So until we’re prepared to really talk about health care, we can just stop pretending that we’re talking about it at all.”

    You can imagine how well that went over.

    Then she brought up the Trump Russia connection and I said “If the people who want to get Trump out of the White House think they have something on him, they should bring charges. Until then, we can stop talking about that, too.”

    The next morning she asked me to leave. What she didn’t know is that I’d already lined up my Plan B and had packed my stuff. So when I said “Okay, I’ll be out in 20 minutes.” she nearly lost it and told me I didn’t have to leave.

    “Oh yes I do.”

    Now to my point… this is why women are so angry all the time. Because in their minds, they experience exactly the same kind of bulls~~~ that I experienced… but rather than seeing the handwriting on the wall and simply moving on, they have to swallow the bulls~~~ because they’ve got NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

    I can pack my s~~~ up and move on in 20 minutes. I can live in my trailer. I can rent a warehouse to store my stuff. I can get a hotel. I’ve got nothing invested… so when my bulls~~~ meter gets to the point where I have to say something, I already know it’s time to go and I go.

    They just can’t do that and it burns their asses to have to admit it to themselves… they really DO need men. But we don’t need them.

    #536097

    Anonymous

    ________________________

    Just watched Hell or High Water and saw some of the themes reflect what we discuss here. Don’t know if this kind of post is welcome here, just wanted to share my observations with anyone who has seen it or may be interested in watching it.

    1) Chris Pine’s character is literally robbing banks to pay off the bank and his bitch of an ex-wife for child support.

    2) The waiter flirts with Chris Pine. She’s a BBW living in a poor town during the recession and her idea of flirting is to immediately ask him if he has a job and how much he makes. No subtlety, no skill. Pine leaves a big tip out of pity.

    3) Pine’s alpha convict thug brother flirts with a hotel clerk and then f~~~s her later that night. She doesn’t care about her husband or boyfriend waiting for her at home, this poor and dirty criminal takes priority.

    4) During the final bank robbery, a girl texts her dad for help. A gang of white knights literally lead the charge against the criminals until they run away after being shot at by the alpha convict thug brother.

    5) After successfully completing his plan, Chris Pine still gets disrespected in front of his children and strangers by his bitchy ex-wife despite providing $50k a month for her and their kids.

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