The Power of Feigning Beta

[SMADParticipant 651]

Greetings All,

I made a post a while ago about the power of “Feigning Beta” and thought I would share a real life and recent example of this with you. Note that whilst this is aimed at “Dating MGTOW”, this topic is of course open to all who have their comments / views on it.

So, to briefly cover what “Feigning Beta” is – it’s basically pretending to be the blue bill guy you were before MGTOW and red pill came along and opened your eyes. Think about it – when you were dating and these women stopped being “into you” – as a blue pill guy, you would wonder what went wrong, why do nice guys finish last, etc etc.

Well, what if, with red pill insight, you could actually USE this “nice guy” to your advantage? This is Feigning Beta in basic terms.

So anyway, I was recently dating a girl and a few red flags popped up fairly quickly, but it wasn’t really costing me much – just a few drinks and travel expenses but got a few cheeky shags out of it. Anyway, some of these red flag warnings became more prominent and indicators of a potential “clingy psycho” were emerging.

Now, calling this off in a “red pill” manner would most likely backfire. Being a proper “man” and showing assertiveness would in all likeliness make her MORE attracted and hard to get rid of – i.e. going into an alpha mode. This is where Feigning Beta comes in.

Thinking back to things I did as a much younger man to repel women (in a nice way of course) – I started doing these things. Being a bit too intense emotionally, opening up and sharing personal details that reduce any alpha male attributes and basically stop being the guy she was attracted to.

Guess what…That’s exactly what happened. “Oh SMAD, you are a great guy but I don’t feel the chemistry or spark with you. I have feelings but…as a FRIEND.”

YES ! RESULT ! Of course, outwardly, the Feigning Beta tactic continues and being a nice guy and accepting second rate behaviour “of course, I will still be friends with you, but if you change your mind, I would love for us to have another go.”

Another week passes – continuing the Feign Beta. To cement the “repulsiveness” I ask out on “friend dates.” Finally, I receive a message saying that “she has started seeing her ex again and doesn’t think it would be appropriate to spend time together.”

F~~~ING JACKPOT.

The calculating aspect of my personality loves when a plan comes together. Internally, I am glad to be free from a potential nightmare and also to meet someone new and different, but done so without violence / arguments / hassle and very little cost. Externally, of course I feel a bit “woe is me” to HER friends and to some extent, my own.

Interestingly enough, the ex she went back to displays “Chad” like characteristics. I thank him for his sacrifice and taking a potential crazy out of the “market.”

And that, my brothers, is how you execute Feigning Beta. Of course, I am aware of the risks of dating women in general, but with red pill foresight and what many members have called “oil change dating”, suddenly it doesn’t seem all that terrible. When work mates / acquaintances ask why I am still single, my “public” response is that I just haven’t been lucky enough to meet the right lady yet, but I am still trying.

Hahahahaha.

I look forward to the comments and of anyone elses examples of “Feigning Beta” – something essential for any dating MGTOW to have in their tool box (in my humble opinion.)

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

SMAD wrote:

hen work mates / acquaintances ask why I am still single, my “public” response is that I just haven’t been lucky enough to meet the right lady yet, but I am still trying.

Feigning beta is important tool in the toolset of selfaware man, specially for environments where you are required to interact with women – work for example. There, feigning beta can be good tactic if you get yourself on the radar like response above would get you even though it it the only correct public response. Stealth, ghosting and NFG should come before feigning beta but if all else fails…

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[MonkParticipant 16985]

Credit to you for knowing the score and playing the game to a successful conclusion. But even so, it still makes me shudder.

What if she decides in that time that you ‘the one’? You are still open to sperm jacking or the contraception ‘accidentally’ failing.

For my money, the only safe way to play is not to play at all.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Freeman_K wrote:

Feigning beta is important tool in the toolset of selfaware man, specially for environments where you are required to interact with women – work for example. There, feigning beta can be good tactic if you get yourself on the radar like response above would get you even though it it the only correct public response. Stealth, ghosting and NFG should come before feigning beta but if all else fails…

Absolutely. Great point as well regarding the work environment too. Spouting red pill diatribe at a work place can land you in a lot of s~~~, as several members have found here with the dreaded “HR departments.” Definitely, an element of stealth and ghosting is important also. There is one thing BEING blue pill and not knowing and another being Red Pill and putting up a mask, for your own protection if anything.

Monk wrote:

What if she decides in that time that you ‘the one’? You are still open to sperm jacking or the contraception ‘accidentally’ failing.

Well, here’s the thing about the many layers of Feigning Beta and that is to fully cement yourself into a low SMV male in their eyes. Bear in mind these women I date I keep out of my friendship circles and often in different towns, minimising fall out. But yes, these are very valid risks you mention – hence why I have been strongly considering a vasectomy. Before that, however, I am tempted to get a sperm count check as I suspect I am firing blanks (after many injuries down there, etc I would be surprised!) in which case, HURRAY! NO BABIES FOR ME!

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[Doc HollidayParticipant 168]

Machiavellianism – good work. Girls are natural experts, but we can play too.

MAGA

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

SMAD wrote:

So, to briefly cover what “Feigning Beta” is – it’s basically pretending to be the blue bill guy you were before MGTOW and red pill came along and opened your eyes. Think about it – when you were dating and these women stopped being “into you” – as a blue pill guy, you would wonder what went wrong, why do nice guys finish last, etc etc.

Way too much work. Might as well be a woman, trying to keep up with all of the bulls~~~.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[StealthParticipant 5330]

I did this instinctively just this past week. Ran into a woman with whom there was an immediate connection. She starts saying s~~~ like, “You seem like a very strong person.” I came back with “just a regular guy” and personal bs banter that changed the tone to more blue pill friendzone s~~~. These days, it runs counter to my grain to behave that way, but it was a strategy.

Freeman_K wrote:

Stealth, ghosting and NFG should come before feigning beta but if all else fails…

I agree that feigning blue pill has a place in the MGTOW toolkit as a last resort. For myself, I’ve found that making myself less attractive to someone is usually not the best strategy. For one thing, it is selling myself short. And apparently I can do this toooo well. I once tried it on a married friend (girl) 7 years ago who wanted to have an affair with me, and she is still somewhere out there running from me. I really must have scared her bad. Also it can echo through my social circles and come back in unforseen ways, bleeding over into other desirable business or other relationships. I prefer to be true to my red pill self and ignore any bulls~~~ that comes along.

But occasionally, yes.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Stealth wrote:

I agree that feigning blue pill has a place in the MGTOW toolkit as a last resort. For myself, I’ve found that making myself less attractive to someone is usually not the best strategy. For one thing, it is selling myself short.

Absolutely agree, it’s definitely a last resort or somewhere down the line a tactic to consider if things are going down a certain path.

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[Anonymous 3]

I got thrown into the friend zone so many times at first I started to feel like a pathetic loser……woke up after a few severe Red Pill incidents that brought me to a point where I almost went out of control. Feigning civility is a way to play the game & is definitely a big part of my tool kit. i learned the hard way & I can b as ruthless & insensitve as the next guy, but we have to live in a world that is 50% populated by women. learn to Steal the Flag. if she is going to put it out there it might as well b with you if thats what you want…….however, having said all that it is still best not to play…..No contact is the best contact

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