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    Jeremiah Johnson
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    Holy s~~~ brothers…You NEED TO READ AND UNDERSTAND…

    The American Presidency Project

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    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to ensure that the United States achieves the most beneficial economic use of its resources, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order: (a) “Privatization” means the disposition or transfer of an infrastructure asset, such as by sale or by long-term lease, from a State or local government to a private party.

    (b) “Infrastructure asset” means any asset financed in whole or in part by the Federal Government and needed for the functioning of the economy. Examples of such assets include, but are not limited to: roads, tunnels, bridges, electricity supply facilities, mass transit, rail transportation, airports, ports, waterways, water supply facilities, recycling and wastewater treatment facilities, solid waste disposal facilities, housing, schools, prisons, and hospitals.

    (c) “Originally authorized purposes” means the general objectives of the original grant program; however, the term is not intended to include every condition requires for a grantee to have obtained the original grant.

    (d) “Transfer price” means: (i) the amount paid or to be paid by a private party for an infrastructure asset, if the asset is transferred as a result of a competitive bidding; of (ii) the appraised value of an infrastructure asset, as determined by the head of the executive department or agency and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, if the asset is not transferred as a result of competitive bidding.

    (e) “State and local governments” means the government of any state of the United States, the District of Columbia, any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States, and any country, municipality, city, town, township, local public authority, school district, special district, intrastate district, regional or interstate governmental entity, council of governments, and any agency or instrumentality of a local government, and any federally recognized Indian Tribe.

    Sec. 2. Fundamental Principles. Executive departments and agencies shall be guided by the following objectives and principles: (a) Adequate and well-maintained infrastructure is critical to economic growth. Consistent with the principles of federalism enumerated in Executive Order No. 12612, and in order to allow the private sector to provide for infrastructure modernization and expansion, State and local governments should have greater freedom to privatize infrastructure assets.

    (b) Private enterprise and competitively driven improvements are the foundation of our Nation’s economy and economic growth. Federal financing of infrastructure assets should not act as a barrier to the achievement of economic efficiencies through additional private market financing or competitive practices, or both.

    (c) State and local governments are in the best position to assess the respond to local needs. State and local governments should, subject to assuring continued compliance with Federal requirements that public use be on reasonable and nondiscriminatory terms, have maximum possible freedom to make decisions concerning the maintenance and disposition of their federally financed infrastructure assets.

    (d) User fees are generally more efficient than general taxes as a means to support infrastructure assets. Privatization transactions should be structured so as not to result in unreasonable increases in charges to users.

    Sec. 3. Privatization Initiative. To the extent permitted by law, the head of each executive department and agency shall undertake the following actions: (a) Review those procedures affecting the management and disposition of federally financed infrastructure assets owned by State and local governments and modify those procedures to encourage appropriate privatization of such assets consistent with this order;

    (b) Assist State and local governments in their efforts to advance the objectives of this order; and

    (c) Approve State and local governments’ requests to privatize infrastructure assets, consistent with the criteria in section 4 of this order and, where necessary, grant exceptions to the disposition requirements of the “Uniform Administrative Requirements for Grants and Cooperative Agreements to State and Local Governments” common rule, or other relevant rules or regulations, for infrastructure assets; provided that the transfer price shall be distributed, as paid, in the following manner: (i) State and local governments shall first recoup in full the unadjusted dollar amount of their portion of total project costs (including any transaction and fix-up costs they incur) associated with the infrastructure assets involved; (ii) if proceeds remain, then the Federal Government shall recoup in full the amount of Federal grant awards associated with the infrastructure assets, less the applicable share of accumulated depreciation on such asset (calculating using the Internal Revenue Service accelerated depreciation schedule for the categories of assets in question); and (iii) finally, the State and local governments shall keep any remaining proceeds,

    Sec. 4. Criteria. To the extent permitted by law, the head of an executive department or agency shall approve a request in accordance with section 3(c) of this order only if the grantee: (a) Agrees to use the proceeds described in section 3(c)(iii) of this order only for investment in additional infrastructure assets (after public notice of the proposed investment), or for debt or tax reduction; and

    (b) Demonstrates that a market mechanism, legally enforceable agreement, or regulatory mechanism will ensure that: (i) the infrastructure asset or assets will continue to be used for their originally authorized purposes, as long as needed for those purposes, even if the purchaser becomes insolvent or is otherwise hindered from fulfilling the originally authorized purposes; and (ii) user charges will be consistent with any current Federal conditions that protect users and the public by limiting the charges.

    Sec. 5. Government-wide Coordination and Review. In implementing Executive Order Nos. 12291 and 12498 and OMB Circular No. A-19, the Office of Management and Budget, to the extent permitted by law and consistent with the provisions of those authorities, shall take action to ensure that the policies of the executive department and agencies are consistent with the principles, critiera, and requirements of this order. The Office of Management and Budget shall review the results of implementing this order and report thereon to the President 1 year after the date of this order.

    Sec. 6. Preservation of Existing Authority. Nothing in this order is in any intended to limit any existing authority of the heads of executive departments and agencies to approve privatization proposals that are otherwise consistent with law.

    Sec. 7. Judicial Review. This order is intended only to improve the internal management of the executive branch, and is not intended to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable by a party against the United States, its agencies or instrumentalities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

    George Bush
    The White House,
    April 30, 1992.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=23625

    Make No Mistake – America
    Has Been SOLD By The NWO
    Was America Sold?
    By Nancy Levant
    NewsWithViews.com
    7-3-9

    In 1992, George H.W. Bush signed Executive Order 12803, which gave D.C. the authority to sell America’s infrastructure. They called this authority “Infrastructure Privatization.” E.O. 12803 tells us this power cleared the way for the “disposition or transfer of an infrastructure “asset” such as by sale or by long-term lease from a State or local government to a private party.”

    E.O. 12803 also lists examples of America’s saleable and/or lease-able infrastructure:

    · Roads
    · Tunnels
    · Bridges
    · Electricity supply facilities
    · Mass transit
    · Rail transportation
    · Airports
    · Ports
    · Waterways
    · Recycling/wastewater treatment facilities
    · Solid waste disposal facilities
    · Hospitals
    · Prisons
    · Schools
    · Housing

    E.O. 12803 tells us that this list represents infrastructure “examples.” Let us, therefore, assume that this is not the complete list of America’s saleable infrastructure. However, this list is a stunning confession.

    Notice that all items listed in 12803 are the very same infrastructure items listed in all Martial Law Executive Orders (see here). Martial Law kicks in to power during declared states of emergency and with the single signature of the president. Strangely (and ignorantly), we currently have multiple declared states of emergency:

    · Act of March 9, 1933, a declared state of emergency at the request of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. This state of emergency was never lifted.

    · Global pandemic – Level 6
    · Mortgage/housing crisis
    · Banking/lending crisis
    · Automobile industry crisis
    · Insurance industry crisis
    · Healthcare crisis
    · Southwestern border crisis
    · Black market drug crisis
    · National education crisis
    · Nature/global warming crisis
    · Jobs/unemployment crisis
    · On-going weather and forest fire crises
    · Extreme and unread congressional legislation crisis due to on-going crises

    What are the odds of complete and total social and “natural” crisis in every single facet of our lives and all at the same time? I will tell you how it was accomplished with simple math:

    Federal Reserve System + Politicians + Tell-A-Vision = Assembly Line Crises. It is called the Hegelian Dialectic Show.

    Everything in the country, including the current planet-sized medical emergency, is in crisis. So enters Martial Law.
    Think of our president’s promises to “change” the country and to fix the economy (which the Federal Reserve and Congress destroyed) by rebuilding America’s infrastructure, including “21st Century schools” and by greening-up our living standards and conditions (International Code Council, Carbon Credits, Waxman-Markey Climate Bill, etc.) – minus, of course, privately owned land and homes (Agenda 21). In the last six months, consider the massive growth of the Federal Government, the national debt, and the powers of the Federal Reserve Central Banking System – all with stated intentions of fixing the economy that they single-handedly destroyed – and fixing it with “infrastructure” projects.

    As Martial Law militarily guards all of E.O. 12803’s infrastructure as listed in the Order, and with homeland paramilitary armies holding practice drills with foreign armies, local law enforcement, and emergency responders all across the nation (and with a big drill planned July 27th through July 31st in FEMA Region 6),

    And with all public schools, private schools, and universities forced to have “lock-down policies” and to be forced-used as quarantine holding tanks, and with all Americans having been repeatedly told to prepare for an emergency (meaning an emergency that will bring Martial Law into the full light of day, which the “drills” have clearly done),

    AND the very same infrastructures listed in Executive Order 12803 are also listed in all Martial Law Executive Orders, and all these infrastructures having been for sale, lease-able, or having been sold during the last 17 years- including our children’s schools, our hospitals, and our homes – I suggest to you that you are witnessing Central Banking Debt Magic at its finest moment. Wouldn’t you love to know how much money has been made by selling our nation to the highest bidders?

    Let us review:

    1. The country’s infrastructure has been for sale for 17 years. Roads, tunnels, bridges, electricity supply facilities, mass transit, rail transportation, airports, ports, waterways, water supply facilities, recycling/wastewater facilities, solid waste facilities, prisons, hospitals, schools, and housing — this being of “examples” of saleable infrastructure and not the entire list of saleable items according to E.O. 12803–so the question begs: What exactly has been sold to “private parties in our nation? We would like to see the complete list. We know that many highway systems have been sold to foreign countries, but what of the other listed items? Have they been sold as well?

    If so, who owns them, and more to the question, which D.C. department sold them and for how much? Did the Federal Reserve and Congress sell our nation? Where is the paperwork? Did they repay any of America’s debt that they purposefully created with their pyramid fiat money lending schemes? And why are they still raising our taxes if America is no longer America but belongs to foreign nations or “private parties?” Since the Federal Reserve is a “private” corporation, did the Fed buy any of America’s infrastructure “assets?”

    As American “housing” is on 12803’s list, and since D.C. recently took over the mortgage industry, has the housing market been sold and/or leased to a “private party” like a foreign nation or the Federal Reserve Corporation? Are the American people tenants to unknown parties? Are American children occupying foreign-owned schools, and are our loved ones lying in foreign hospitals that are clearly chock-full of foreign doctors? Equally, who, exactly, is financing the building of 21st Century schools and classrooms complete with foreign curricula? The questions beg: who are the foreigners….the foreigners or the American people?

    More to the point, who is dissolving, partitioning, and/or divvying up our nation? Is it Obama? Geithner? Bernacke? Bushes? Clintons? FDR? Wilson? American morons?

    It would seem that we are preparing for the Big Transfer – the transfer of our nation to and beneath a new authority or several new authorities. It now makes a great deal of sense why foreign troops have been cross-training with our new paramilitary systems, and yes, there are foreign troops on American soil, which I fear may not be American soil at all. Equally, multiculturalism suddenly makes a great deal of sense. I believe we can call it “behavior modification” so that we the stupid people will behave and be obedient under the new rules of new and foreign leaders.

    I ask you, has our nation been sold out from under us, and without our knowledge? Could there be any other possible explanation for selling the most critical components of our country, while at the same time creating new, multicultural and cross-trained armies; permanently bankrupting the nation and selling its debt to foreign countries, and having Martial Law orders written specifically to protect the sold “assets” of our nation–including our schools and homes? Are America’s new owners to be protected by new Martial Law armies, cross-trained with foreign armies, while our “traditional” military is spread all over the planet – except here with its nation’s people? Are we being transferred to new ownership as we speak?

    Consider:

    Washington D.C. debts were sold to foreign nations.

    · Washington D.C. = politicians
    · Debts = Federal Reserve Central (Fiat) Banking
    · Sold = Wall Street

    Is it not realistic to think that big league politicians, bankers, and CEOs are loyal to no nation when they were massively enriched by internationalized banking, internationalized trade, absurd and illegal taxation, and by interest rates forced upon the people of this nation, while at the same time selling our nation to other central banks around the world and “private parties” – and for personal profit? Truth is, they sold the infrastructure first, and then they sold we the people as tax generators and life-long human resources to their global banking and business partners in crime.

    What is the crime, you ask? The Federal Reserve, which is a piece of a global banking cartel, and their politicians and CEO partners who made counterfeiting and Ponzi/pyramid schemes legalized theft on continental scales. Your country is 1) not your country and, 2) not what you thought it was for at least 100 years. You are going to have to seek God’s grace to be relieved from the bitterness of that truth. Today, we don’t know under whose authority we live, but Washington, D.C. and the Federal Reserve do know.

    Big, big changes are on the horizon. All I can tell you is to remember that freedom, granted to all by God, is first and foremost a state of mind. Pray for guidance. Prepare yourselves because Obama spoke the truth. It is all about “infrastructure.” The promised change has arrived. The question is this: who owns America? Who have the American people been committed to serving and beneath what form of government?

    We can pretty much assume that Asia owns a very large chunk of America, as does Great Britain, India, Middle Eastern countries, and perhaps Mexico and Canada, as well. We can also assume that Martial Law armies will be guarding all the sold “assets” during what could be an extraordinary and massively tyrannical transfer of power. The love of money is the root of all evil. No truer words were ever spoken.

    Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....

    Jim01
    Jim01
    Participant

    Well she’s right. She doesn’t have to. That has consequences, however, such as Star Wars becoming s~~~, and men not spending money on s~~~, but whatever. I no longer care what these commercial entities think. F~~~ em. Star Wars is dead to me anyway. The last film was a mess.

    this x 1000

    I have given up on Star Wars now. It finished after Revenge of the Sith (an underrated film) and I just hope more and more old fans give up on it

    I still haven’t watched the Feminist Awakens nor do I ever plan to.

    I remember how Star Wars was considered a nerdy loser thing for a long time, and as is typical for women, as soon as it catered to them they pretended they’d always been fans and it’s popular now.

    Star Wars WILL make a lot of money going forward, because women like it now, and blue pill men will always follow whatever women do. In reality women follow what men do, but on a time lag, and those men are gone so eventually Star Wars will lose its audience, but it won’t be for awhile. Whatever new thing masculine men get into now will eventually follow the same cycle. I’m not sure what it is, as I don’t really watch TV or anything now.

    Agreed, I hated the farce awakens with a burning passion. What made the original so great was how groundbreaking and creative it was. The new movie was a politically correctified copy of all three originals. Even the prequels are still decent movies bc they’re original.

    And don’t anybody try to fukking justify the mary sue “goddess” that is Rey, apparently she’s already stronger than Luke Skywalker after one movie.

    But naturally a movie made by a women wouldn’t be original, it would hav to be a copy paste job.

    My personal post of the week

    It is more of a British thing but if you want to watcg an old fashioned, violent action film then I suggest Dredd.

    I used to read 2000AD when I was a kid and that s~~~ Sly Stallone film aside, they finally made a film to justify how good that comic is.

    For anyone who has read the comics, they know that Dredd is the f~~~ing man

    #361446
    Bobphilo
    bobphilo
    Participant

    As a football fan it broke my heart.

    Few words for some fallen brothers.

    As a former footballer myself I am also saddened.
    Sometimes there is no justice in this world. The club had worked their way up the table from obscurity to playing in the final of the South American club championship and were killed because some idiot didn’t check if the plane had enough fuel. Hangings too good for him.

    Y_
    Y_
    Participant

    Hyperinflation is the direct result of what happens when the general population loses all confidence in the government, reminiscent of Germany’s hyperinflation following World War I and Zimbabwe’s crash a decade ago. This is how the final death spasm of fiat money usually will unfold (inclusive of the US Federal Reserve note).

    In the early 1990s, the incoming Argentinian Menem administration had committed itself to tackling malignant hyperinflation as a result of no confidence in the fiat currency.

    After an earlier inflation stabilisation plan had ended in abject failure – a substantial devaluation and a 58% fall in foreign exchange reserves took place. Fearing an all-out run on the banks, the Argentine government froze all accounts on 1st December 2001. Argentine citizens were allowed to withdraw a small amount of cash on a weekly basis.

    The following month, just weeks after defaulting on a record $95 billion worth of sovereign debt, the government succumbed to the inevitable and proceeded with a devaluation of the peso.

    In the weeks that followed the bank freeze, social unrest very nearly brought the country to its knees. By the time of the peso’s devaluation, those protests had escalated into full scale rioting and looting.

    It took four years of negotiations before Argentina agreed a deal with their creditors to restructure the terms of Argentina’s outstanding debts. On 1st March 2005, the deal, in which a majority of investors (75%) surrendered their claims in exchange for new bonds worth roughly 35 cents on the dollar, was completed.

    http://treasurytoday.com/2014/02/argentinas-debt-crisis-ttbigp

    Argentina was lucky with hyperinflation measures – Venezuela now is in the same hole – but no-one seems to be able to fix things – yet.

    Venezuela’s troubles began in 2014 when the price of oil took a nosedive. Instead of moving to separate the country from its dependence on oil, the Venezuelan government lost the confidence of the people and was compelled to issue more money to pay its bills lacking revenue flow.

    Venezuela’s currency has become virtually worthless in just two months, and the bolivar plummeted 50% in value while Venezuelans are now desperately trying to get U.S. dollars, the only alternative available to them. (The same situation is starting to emerge in India after the government demonetized the large denomination notes but I will continue that in a forthcoming thread).

    This is exactly what US President-Elect Trump wants to do – print trillions more to increase US revenue.

    The key to hyperinflation is NOT the issue of money, but the collapse of public confidence in the currency. Once this happens there is no turning back from the outcome.

    Venezuelan Hyperinflation

    #359737
    Y_
    Y_
    Participant

    The long-awaited new Shariah Gold Standard is now set to be launched before the end of 2016 and expected to become the next big catalyst to push the precious metal to new highs

    According to the World Gold Council, the new standard will also serve as an internationally recognised consensus on regular gold savings plans, gold certificates and gold mining equities.

    Together with the SGX, the SGS will move gold pricing further away from the (rigged) London Exchange and US Comex.

    Once the Shariah Gold Standard is introduced, many market observers expect the gold price to take off since an additional 1.6bn Muslims, dozens of Islamic Central Banks and hundreds of Arab ultra-high-net worth individuals will be eligible to invest in gold.

    In addition, Muslim countries with weak currencies such as Malaysia, Indonesia and Pakistan, are expected to build up gold reserves to flatten exchange rate volatilities.

    This may weaken the USD & Euro (which are inversely proportional to the gold and oil prices) and may cause the Federal Reserve to finally do the unthinkable – start trading the US Bond and Stock market equities.

    http://www.gulf-times.com/story/522050/Islamic-gold-standard-to-debut-in-December-price-j

    #359020
    Kael'Tyr
    Kael’Tyr
    Participant

    Sirs, Gents,

    I’ve browsed your forums anonymously for several months, learning from the stories people have offered up. A lot of you have endured hardships at the hands of women, and so my path to MGTOW may not seem as arduous, but I make this intro as a way of trying to deal with the events that have happened, and try to come to some sort of working relationship with women.

    A little about myself, I am British, late 20’s, Military Officer, Pilot by trade, and single for 4 years. The term MGTOW has only just become new to me, however looking at the things that the concept values, I would say that I have been embracing it for several years now, and I will try to explain why.

    My interactions with women have never been great, from early school years I wasn’t “attractive” or “cool” my friends had girlfriends, but I studied. The first push down the MGTOW path was in my late teens, my first girlfriend, first “love”, after 3 years together I was cheated on after a week at uni.

    Subsequently I had a string of girlfriends, none really lasting longer than a few months, all showing some sort of crazy, manipulative tendencies. I believed myself to be the problem, I wasn’t good enough, I couldn’t attract the right sort of woman. I went to the gym, tried a bit harder, no results. Fast forward 4 years, strings of short relationships with little to show other than a notch on the bedpost, finally was with someone that was tolerable, she told me she loved me, I couldn’t say it back, something wasn’t quite right. We ended; that was my last serious girlfriend.

    All that was a very long way of saying I had a poor interactions with women from young, cheated on multiple times, dealing with mood swings and arguments, none of it particularly out-of the ordinary, if perhaps a little unlucky. However, the thing that would cause me to wash my hands of women would be one single event, not even directed towards me.

    The night in question I had come home from work to my parents house, I would normally make myself something to eat as most of the family had eaten by then. I was welcomed home by my mother who offered me a bacon sandwich, this was my first indication that something was wrong. A bacon sandwich, to my mother, does not constitute a decent evening meal. I accepted, went to the living room to see my father staring blankly at some mind numbing reality TV. Second indication. He hates reality TV. I decided to sit and wait for some explanation.

    It came shortly after the bacon sandwich; my dad had been arrested. I was dumb founded, my father is an honest hardworking man. He had always been employed, always provided, raised me in true British stiff upper lip fashion, with respect and values. I couldn’t imagine him being arrested. The explanation furthered, it was for sexual assault.

    As background, as myself and my siblings grew up, my parents decided to foster as they liked “parenting” the latest they had was a young girl, 18, who was pregnant. Her mother had been incapable of looking after her, so the authorities gave them to my parents. She gave birth to the child at our house, and was now raising it with my mother acting a guide. As part of the fostering process my parents had to keep a diary on how she was tending to the baby as the authorities were also worried for its well being. The diary did not read favorably for her, and she was in danger of loosing it, so she did what every woman has the ability to do.

    I remember sitting there as my mother explained, she had gone to the police, accused my father of touching her sexually, and inappropriately. He was arrested immediately, and put in a holding cell, details taken, record created, life changed in a fleeting moment by a few words from an 18YO girl. She was immediately removed from my parents care, placed in social housing with her child who she could now keep.

    I cant express the emotion at the way I felt. My father, my idol,a decent honest man was destroyed in an afternoon by a lying child. I had a whole host of thoughts of what to do, most of them bad, some of which I am not proud of. “The system” meant to protective people, so easily perverted to destroy our lives, that was the power she had, a simple word, no evidence. Clearly the event never took place, but there were no repercussions for her lying, and the record is permanent. She got what she wanted, the consequences didn’t occur or matter to her.

    It felt like this belonged in a film, not real life. I confided only in my boss at work, I personally have not spoken about it to anyone else until this day, but I feel it is damaging my ability to interact and trust women.

    The aftermath?
    I joined the military, pursued a job that I loved, I now fly helicopters, go to the gym for my health, own my own house and car, am teaching myself piano and enjoy computer gaming.
    My family has moved on, no lasting damage to them it seems.
    From what I have heard the girl now has a second child, by a second dad, still single, smokes, and will never actively contribute to society. I wonder if she realizes what she did that day.
    I have contemplated looking her up, but decided against it, no good can come of it.
    Those of you wondering about my first girlfriend; married, and fat.

    I haven’t had a proper girlfriend since then, I can’t trust them. I date intermittently, I feel I have little to gain from a relationship other than sex. I say intermittently as in today’s dating world where I perceive women demand so much but give so little, I run out of motivation quickly.

    I am sometimes jealous of my friends, they are all married, some expecting children. I don’t believe that is something that I can have now, I also believe that they aren’t as happy as they make out to be, so its no great loss.

    I imagine in the eyes of some of you this is a lesson learned early, I tend to agree with that statement the majority of the time.

    Sirs, Gents, I hope that this hasn’t come across as a woe-is-me woman bashing essay. I mainly wrote this as a way of trying to rid myself of these demons, maybe it will help me, maybe it wont. For those of you that read all of it, perhaps it was interesting to you. I’m not sure how it has served as an introduction, but it was the thing that lead me away from women, away from dating and down the path of self improvement.

    I am Kael’Tyr, and I am trying to become a man going his own way.

    Thanks for reading.

    Stargazer
    Stargazer
    Participant

    I was spending the day with a woman once who, as we were shopping for groceries for me to prepare for the evening, mentioned wanting us to go see her sister. I agreed that we could plan something for later in the week but that I needed to go home and tend to some things then I was going to make us dinner.

    When we got to my place and I was half-way through my project, she told me that we should leave then if we wanted to get to her sister’s place by 8pm. I explained to her that we had already agreed on a plan for the evening and then she spent the next five minutes trying to convince me that we had agreed to go to see her sister that night and that we’d been discussing it all day.

    Finally I told her “I think you’ve been speaking with your sister and planning this with HER all day, but we only spoke of it once and I said later in the week. Of course, you could show me your message thread with your sister and prove me wrong…” to which she responded “You just don’t want me to see my sister!”

    Wow, that escalated quickly. I just turned and went back to tending to my business and didn’t answer. Furious, she stormed out of the room and went to the front door and announced that she was going to leave. I told her she was free to stay or to go as she pleased and that I was going to finish my work and start making dinner either way.

    She collected her things, walked out the door and left and I never saw her again. Five days later she texted me and said “I guess your silence tells me how important our relationship is to you.” to which I replied “As far as I am concerned, our relationship ended the moment you chose to walk out my door rather than stay and work things out with me like an adult.”

    I never heard from her again after that.

    If a woman tries to manipulate you, shut her down immediately. If she persists, terminate your association with her as quickly and cleanly as possible. That’s all there is to it.

    #358293
    Stargazer
    Stargazer
    Participant

    It sounds like you’ve had the best part of this relationship.

    When the woman starts to make noises about exclusivity, that’s your sign that the plane is slowing and starting to lose altitude for its final approach.

    The landing is the roughest and most dangerous part of the flight… and you can guess what’s waiting for you at the end of that runway. Right now you’ve got a parachute and the chance to pop that back door, grab your bag of cash and pull a D.B. Cooper.

    Bail out and vanish. Boom. Gone.

    Do yourself a favor and remember her as she is now, not as the venomous creature that she’s about to become. If you let this happen, it’s going to be 100% your fault.

    #358046

    Anonymous

    MGTOW helped me realize that I am more than enough.

    I first heard about MGTOW in the Youtube comments section of various anti-feminist videos. At the time, I thought it was a little “extreme”, completely walking away from marriage and serious relationships with women. I was raised to believe that marriage was a part of life, as natural as breathing, and the thought of one day marrying “the girl of my dreams”, having kids, and living a comfortable suburban life with a six figure salary always made me giddy.

    High school was a boring time for me. I was a skinny fat, video game addicted slacker throughout all four years. After graduation my virginity was still in tact, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and never even been on a date. I had just turned 18 when I came to the conclusion that it was because I was physically unattractive. I told myself “okay, just workout, get in shape, get a hot girlfriend and life will be good.” I had a big goal: turn my 5’9 pudgy physique into a lean muscle, six pack machine. My sole motivation for working out was to get girls, and that only recently changed.

    After two years of exercising on and off, I ended up in better shape than I was but still nowhere near where I wanted to be. At 20 years old, I was still a virgin and still hadn’t kissed a girl yet. That changed one night at a house party hosted by my best friend where I ended up kissing a girl as a result of Truth or Dare (sad, I know). A couple weeks later, I lost my virginity to the same girl. We did become official, and I followed her around like a lost puppy day in and day out until she went off to college (she was 18 at the time). Needless to say, she cheated on me with multiple guys. No, she didn’t tell me, I found out from my friend which made me feel worse.

    My dating life became more active after that fiasco and I kept up with working out still solely based on being more attractive to women, but I never saw the results I wanted and I was never truly happy. Most of the girls I’ve had relationships with since that time, I was actually the one that pulled the plug mainly due to the girl being too boring. That made me wonder if women really were as special and amazing as I thought they were.

    At age 22, with an Associate’s degree in Business Admin from a community college, I got a decent entry level job at a mutual fund company transfer agency. The pay was good enough for me to finally move out on my own, but I absolutely hated the job. I stuck with it though due to my family telling me that if I was going to get married and start a family, I would need a good job to support my wife and kids. It was also a mantra that I kept on telling myself over and over again. However, I one day decided that my happiness was worth more to me than a blue pill fantasy and that I had higher expectations for myself, so I resigned from my job and moved back home with my parents (they were not happy).

    It wasn’t until recently that I started researching the idea of MGTOW. I read articles, visited websites such as this one, and watched Youtube videos by MGTOW men like Howard Dare and Sandman. I noticed that not only was what I learned making sense, but that men that have gotten married, had kids, and good paying jobs all seemed to wish that their lives were different. Men that were living a life that I always thought I wanted wished things were different. I was intrigued.

    Well, here I am. I am now 23 years old, living at home with my parents, and working a very easy going job at a plumbing warehouse. I do not have a six pack (yet), but what I do have is clarity. I have learned women are simply not worth it. They are not worth chasing, sacrificing for, or in my case bettering yourself for. The only person’s approval I need is my own, no one else’s. As for what I plan on doing with my life, I’m still figuring that out but I know one thing for certain: I am going my own way.

    Sorry for the long post.

    I am 44 but at 23 i had a revelation ahaha so to speak i dated girls from 18 to 23, got cheated on, lied gave my all to them for just ending up being dumped. I had a good shape been lifting weights since i was 13y old. At 23 i met 2 strippers that showed me the ropes and i bang a lot of women.

    You are still young, you need to forget social programming women are worst then men now they are selfish and cheat on your any chance they get, there loyalty is gone.

    I got tricked into getting back in a relationship with a fatty at 30y old due to social programming. You need to kill this s~~~ right away marriage kids soul mate the one… f~~~ all that s~~~. Play the game like they do that’s all they deserve.

    You don’t need a six pack to get women train lift weights stay fit do it for yourself, this is what i do now, yeah a good body will attract women broad shoulders a good chest small waist these bitches go crazy for that consider that 99% of people on the planet are out of shape.

    If i knew then what i know now, i would have saved up so much money avoid long term relationship leading no where and avoid all that pain it caused me.

    #358044

    Remember that their rage and fury doesn’t come from anyone else. It comes from their own off-the-chart arrogance and learning they were wrong.

    Pride goeth before a fall.

    Experience has taught me that after such a fall women tend to go psycho after having such a crushing blow to their ego more often than men.

    In a situation as we find ourselves it. It is wise to silently take stock of where everyone’s loyalties lie. And which way those with the guns are likely to point when it finally, fully hits the fan.

    The good news is most of those with the guns in the U.S. are standing behind Trump and not Hillary. And during the election, and after the election, Trump has shown a lot of respect towards the military and police. Both in his speeches, action, planned policies, and cabinet appointments. Those of the military and police have a lot riding on Trump becoming president. That is good for the nation and bad for those whom wish ill towards the election process of this nation.

    And now, I am glad that Trump was a gentleman right after the election. That Trump offered to leave Hillary in peace. That way, when the backstabbing started by the Hillary camp, Trump has no question that legally going after the Hillary camp is the proper, just action to take.

    Get you popcorn ready. The Trump legal fireworks likely begin tomorrow morning. This is going to be fun to watch.

    By the way, the “recount” fundraising collections falls under campaign finance laws. And there are limits to how much each person can donate. And these donations have to be disclosed. And since it is proven it is a mostly a single bot program, donating in hourly intervals, from a single organization over six million dollars. This is almost twice as much money as much as Jill Stein raised in the entire election season. If Jill Stein used any of that money, she is not likely in a lot of legal hot water, with possible felony violations under campaign fiance laws.

    #357893
    Tea Bag
    Tea Bag
    Participant

    MGTOW helped me realize that I am more than enough.

    I first heard about MGTOW in the Youtube comments section of various anti-feminist videos. At the time, I thought it was a little “extreme”, completely walking away from marriage and serious relationships with women. I was raised to believe that marriage was a part of life, as natural as breathing, and the thought of one day marrying “the girl of my dreams”, having kids, and living a comfortable suburban life with a six figure salary always made me giddy.

    High school was a boring time for me. I was a skinny fat, video game addicted slacker throughout all four years. After graduation my virginity was still in tact, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and never even been on a date. I had just turned 18 when I came to the conclusion that it was because I was physically unattractive. I told myself “okay, just workout, get in shape, get a hot girlfriend and life will be good.” I had a big goal: turn my 5’9 pudgy physique into a lean muscle, six pack machine. My sole motivation for working out was to get girls, and that only recently changed.

    After two years of exercising on and off, I ended up in better shape than I was but still nowhere near where I wanted to be. At 20 years old, I was still a virgin and still hadn’t kissed a girl yet. That changed one night at a house party hosted by my best friend where I ended up kissing a girl as a result of Truth or Dare (sad, I know). A couple weeks later, I lost my virginity to the same girl. We did become official, and I followed her around like a lost puppy day in and day out until she went off to college (she was 18 at the time). Needless to say, she cheated on me with multiple guys. No, she didn’t tell me, I found out from my friend which made me feel worse.

    My dating life became more active after that fiasco and I kept up with working out still solely based on being more attractive to women, but I never saw the results I wanted and I was never truly happy. Most of the girls I’ve had relationships with since that time, I was actually the one that pulled the plug mainly due to the girl being too boring. That made me wonder if women really were as special and amazing as I thought they were.

    At age 22, with an Associate’s degree in Business Admin from a community college, I got a decent entry level job at a mutual fund company transfer agency. The pay was good enough for me to finally move out on my own, but I absolutely hated the job. I stuck with it though due to my family telling me that if I was going to get married and start a family, I would need a good job to support my wife and kids. It was also a mantra that I kept on telling myself over and over again. However, I one day decided that my happiness was worth more to me than a blue pill fantasy and that I had higher expectations for myself, so I resigned from my job and moved back home with my parents (they were not happy).

    It wasn’t until recently that I started researching the idea of MGTOW. I read articles, visited websites such as this one, and watched Youtube videos by MGTOW men like Howard Dare and Sandman. I noticed that not only was what I learned making sense, but that men that have gotten married, had kids, and good paying jobs all seemed to wish that their lives were different. Men that were living a life that I always thought I wanted wished things were different. I was intrigued.

    Well, here I am. I am now 23 years old, living at home with my parents, and working a very easy going job at a plumbing warehouse. I do not have a six pack (yet), but what I do have is clarity. I have learned women are simply not worth it. They are not worth chasing, sacrificing for, or in my case bettering yourself for. The only person’s approval I need is my own, no one else’s. As for what I plan on doing with my life, I’m still figuring that out but I know one thing for certain: I am going my own way.

    Sorry for the long post.

    No speaky until the man speaky to you.

    #357539
    DanceMyOwnWay
    DanceMyOwnWay
    Participant

    Last night I rejected a woman I had been fooling around for past month; she wanted life-long companionship (without marriage as I made it clear that I will not get married). As the ‘date’ progressed she wanted to hold hands and hug, I said no without any explanation.

    What followed was a pouty face. We (I) were driving; I just turned up the volume and enjoyed some music while she sat on the passenger side. No efforts to try to figure out what is wrong or what I did wrong. F~~~ that.

    Later followed an emotional outburst of ‘how can you be like this? A robot, no feelings, I feel sorry for you’. Inside I was cracking up but didn’t want to laugh at her frustration to avoid any further escalation of the situation.

    Only rational point I made was why bother and not just stop hanging out with me if I am so robotic and have nothing good about me?

    More tantrums and accusations.

    As the night progressed and I outright said no to holding hands or touching her, she offered me the status of f~~~ buddy. (Tom Lykis was right, lol)

    I said no. She confessed the whole lifelong companionship was just a ‘thing’ (read: ploy) because she was certain that I would fall in love with her and change my mind.

    The only strong red pill I got was when I challenged certain beliefs she had about relationships and instead of defending them she smirked and said she didn’t quite care about them but followed along because that’s what I wanted. I expected her to defend her views but I felt pretty beta for trusting her on face value about what she pretended to want- companionship without living together or any legal ties. The smirk gave me chills.

    Basically, an hour of her trying hard at seduction followed by frustration eventually led to her stop caring about what I think of her since I am not going to fall for any of her tricks. There came her true colors. All she ‘felt’ for me seemed to evaporate and it is a good thing that in her words, ‘I am not the kind of person who stays attached for long’.

    Finally, what followed was- “You asshole for you I had let few good guys go”.

    I ended the night by giving her a goodbye hug. Driving home I felt some euphoria not dissimilar to the pump after a good workout.

    Sounds like hard work. They are all replaceable anyway…

    If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

    #357325
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
    Participant

    As the ‘date’ progressed she wanted to hold hands and hug, I said no without any explanation.

    Wrong.
    Wrong!
    Wrong!!!
    That’s coitus interruptus!!!
    You should hold her hand, then hg her, then lightly kiss her on the neck! Then lick her hear! Then touch her breast, NOT slightly! If you’ll do it right, then she’ll undressed her breast, suck it, then suck it even more and rub her pussy!
    THEN
    Reject her!
    “NO”
    “I WANT TO STOP HERE!”
    😀

    You missed the best part!
    Her reaction would have been like that

    Later followed an emotional outburst of ‘how can you be like this? A robot, no feelings, I feel sorry for you’.

    Usual s~~~.
    She was just admitting that she have been defeated!

    She confessed the whole lifelong companionship was just a ‘thing’ (read: ploy) because she was certain that I would fall in love with her and change my mind.

    ALL women are like that.
    Trust me.

    Finally, what followed was- “You asshole for you I had let few good guys go”.

    I ended the night by giving her a goodbye hug. Driving home I felt some euphoria not dissimilar to the pump after a good workout.

    That’s good.
    But you missed the best part.
    If you would had sexually wildly aroused her, then rejected her at the very last second, you would had feel like God!
    LIKE GOD!

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    Chir
    chir
    Participant

    Even Blue Pills are feeling the bite of Feminist narrative. Writer could be a woman or a man. I think the writer is most likely a woman. Found this over on Survivalblog.com.
    I posted it here because its an entreaty to beg woman to abandon the feminist narrative and come back to being masters of the plantation where the men are waiting. The writer puts out 7 points to convince women to give up their feminist narrative. (good luck with that).
    I thought it amusing how even blue pill traditionalists are getting nervous. Gave me a laugh how MGTOW have taken the side road and are watching this s~~~ like a slow moving multi-car wreck.

    (Before Trump win)
    Considering we are at the precipice of the possibility for the first female, militant feminist to take control of the greatest country in the world, I thought this article appropriately timed.

    Feminists, who may read this, you need to consider some serious questions. Are you honestly prepared to endure the reality of the feminist ideology lived out to its fullest? What would this even look like? If this is a concept you haven’t pondered fully, would you consider listening to a well researched argument against the suicidal movement of militant feminism? Moreover, are you willing to listen without judgment rather than blowing off warnings from those who genuinely care?

    In this article I will spell out the worst case scenario of progressive feminism lived out to its fullest in seven corresponding warnings.

    Over the last several years I have worked hard to expose the lies and deception of the second, third, and now fourth wave feminists who hold men and women captive in this country with their lies. It has taken a lot of restraint to remain polite. I’ve been patient. I’ve kept my cool and taken the intellectual route. I’ve spent the last four years working diligently on a Master’s degree from a highly respected and accredited university program in what could be referred to as a Natural Law Degree. If there were a corresponding bar examination for such a degree, I am confident I would pass because of the quality of the curriculum, professors, and fellow students. I studied under some of the most brilliant professors in the world, who are experts in law, philosophy, ethics, history, theology, science, and culture. They teach the most fundamental truths of our humanity, our history, and our reality. It has been a highlight in my intellectual journey and one that would go to waste if I did not share this information with others. I am making good use of my high level education and sharing what I’ve learned.

    As part of my education, I focused on reading some of the most unpalatable material from feminists, philosophers, historians, and scientists who deny objective truth, universal morals, and our ultimate reality. These warped minds, pushing their sick agendas, are a threat to the one good thing humanity has forever trusted in– truth. There is only one truth! Relativism commits suicide when it is held to its own standard, and sooner or later all people will come face to face with their own inventions of truth. Life happens. Death is a reality. Truth is eternal!

    So, without further adieu, here are the Seven Warnings to Progressive Feminists pushing for their ultimate feminist utopia:
    1. More children will die.

    Children will continue to be murdered. Over 50 million abortions are proof of what the progressive feminist considers her greatest accomplishment (aside from demoralizing men and stay-at-home moms). The unborn have been murdered, some without a second thought and some resulting in a lifetime of guilt and pain to show for such a desperate act. I hurt for the women who chose to abort (encouraged by other women, doctors, or the even the father). Some still do not know that they can be free from the guilt and shame. There is a way out of the endless hatred you have for yourself. It is rooted in one Man, and you have to seek Him first.
    2. Manhood will further disintegrate.

    Manhood is starting to become a non-existent aspect of our culture. Men are becoming weak, not just physically but mentally and spiritually. They have given over to the dark side, knowing full well what they are sacrificing. The will give up everything to appease the gender neutral, power hungry maniacs who want their soul. Beware; these are the most dangerous kind of men, the ones who lack any ability to protect women and children. They’re the ones who are weak in the knees and the mind. They have…No Courage…No Conviction…No Honor…No Glory!
    3. War will proliferate.

    Don’t kid yourself; women can be vicious. It is a fallacy that a woman in charge will be a woman for peace. Women can be vengeful, and yes, women can wage war with the same intensity as men. This is not just about women serving in combat units or combat roles. This is about angry, bitter, and sadistic women taking control of the defense of humanity. Women are not designed to defend mankind, and they are certainly not designed to fight wars. Women, if given enough power, could become the fiercest of killers, using the newest hands-off forms of weaponry (bio-weapons, tech-weapons, psych warfare, drones). A spiteful woman in power could wreak havoc on humanity. Women will take their victims by night and dress to kill in the morning. Dead to conscience, their battlefields will be covered in their evil, treacherous deeds.
    4. Bodies will continue to be mutilated.

    We could see forced vaccinations, forced neutering, and forced DNA manipulation, all without consideration for the Nuremburg Code, informed consent, or medical ethics. A woman of excessive power, determined to pursue the race for a perfect specimen, will cut any corner of ethics, morals, or common decency to get her way. Science is a religion and a god. It is worshiped with more fervor and loyalty than many religions of this world. Dare to question science. There is no limit, in the mind of the mad scientist, to the pursuit of science over the wisdom of natural law, morality, and objective truth.
    5. Sex will be a virtual reality.

    There will be no more falling in love. Pleasure is what we seek, and pleasure is what we will die for. It will all be so decadent, so real!
    6. Families will continue to separate.

    Mothers will no longer have time to nurture and comfort their children. They will be too busy saving the world. Look out Wonder-woman, this is a whole new ball game. As they say, “The world is yours.” Put your mind to anything long enough, and it will become you. Then again, we become what we hate, don’t we? Tearing the family apart is an agenda of the most devious kind. Shame on those who have participated in taking children unlawfully from their parents, demonizing fathers in the court system, and encouraged marriages towards divorce. Shame on the psychologists and psychiatrists who propagate such destruction.
    7. God will continue to be mocked.

    “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” (Gal 6:7)

    Do you suppose it is wise to mock your Maker? As the common saying goes, “Don’t tempt fate.” Why take such an uncalculated, unwise risk with your soul? Instead, consider this, objective truth is real, natural law is good, and they are right and ultimately designed to make us prosper.

    Why do I care so much to make another desperate effort to connect with feminists? I’ve been told to just “let dead dogs lie” and “stop stirring up dirt.” I’ve been laughed at, humiliated and scoffed for confronting feminism, and I know this reaction is only a taste of the depths of hatred headed my way, if I continue. No, I’m not looking forward to it as the feminist fights dirty.

    On a personal note, the reason why I keep at this is because I have a sister, a mother, aunts, and friends who are distant, and frankly we haven’t seen eye-to-eye for years. As the Recovering Feminist, they have written me off. They keep me at arm’s length, and I miss them. I want them to know I care and I love them enough to continue to try to reach out in truth and love. I want to speak directly to their hearts, hearts that have grown cold and distant, hearts that have shut me out. I want to laugh with them again, to share stories about our children, and to talk about our daily lives. I want to be close again.

    Ultimately, I want to practice medicine on the feminist’s cold heart and “First do no harm”. The destructive effects of feminism have caused a rift in my personal relationships, and I wonder how many reading this today can relate (male and female). I yearn for these relationships to be healed and for peace to return.

    Please heed my words. Take them to heart, and forgive me for speaking too harsh or direct, hitting all the wrong nerves. Know that I mean no harm. Progressive, militant feminism will drag you down into the pits. If you don’t step back and re-assess your heart’s desire, you will never begin to remedy the pain and injury of following such a worldview. This worldview is hazardous to your health, hazardous to your heart, and hazardous to your soul.

    I come in peace to feminists but that peace comes through the strength of truth. As a recovering feminist, I am more at peace with the condition of my soul today. I have no fear, only sorrow and repentance now. I do not fear the past or the dreadfully stupid choices of my past. I do not fear the future. I look upwards in hope, waiting (sometimes impatiently) for the coming day of justice, when all wrongs will be made right, all tears wiped away, and all broken vessels will be made perfectly whole again. Would you like to join me in this hope?

    Finally, do you know that the love and attention you seek has already been offered to you? It has been and always will be a totally free offer. It is still true and will remain true that “…the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. ” (James 3:17). God is merciful and He is perfectly just. That should be our greatest source of comfort, unless we choose to deny His law, reject His truth, and mock His Son. “Woe” is not a friendly word in Scripture, and one should take note when it is used. “The crown is fallen from our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned!” (Lam 5:16).

    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

    #357150
    TattooDave
    TattooDave
    Participant

    Last night I rejected a woman I had been fooling around for past month; she wanted life-long companionship (without marriage as I made it clear that I will not get married). As the ‘date’ progressed she wanted to hold hands and hug, I said no without any explanation.

    What followed was a pouty face. We (I) was driving; I just turned up the volume and enjoyed some music while she sat on the passenger side. No efforts to try to figure out what is wrong or what I did wrong. F~~~ that.

    Later followed an emotional outburst of ‘how can you be like this? A robot, no feelings, I feel sorry for you’. Inside I was cracking up but didn’t want to laugh at her frustration to avoid any further escalation of the situation.

    Only rational point I made was why bother and not just stop hanging out with me if I am so robotic and have nothing good about me?

    More tantrums and accusations.

    As the night progressed and I outright said no to holding hands or touching her, she offered me the status of f~~~ buddy. (Tom Lykis was right, lol)

    I said no. She confessed the whole lifelong companionship was just a ‘thing’ (read: ploy) because she was certain that I would fall in love with her and change my mind.

    The only strong red pill I got was when I challenged certain beliefs she had about relationships and instead of defending them she smirked and said she didn’t quite care about them but followed along because that’s what I wanted. I expected her to defend her views but I felt pretty beta for trusting her on face value about what she pretended to want- companionship without living together or any legal ties. The smirk gave me chills.

    Basically, an hour of her trying hard at seduction followed by frustration eventually led to her stop caring about what I think of her since I am not going to fall for any of her tricks. There came her true colors. All she ‘felt’ for me seemed to evaporate and it is a good thing that in her words, ‘I am not the kind of person who stays attached for long’.

    Finally, what followed was- “You asshole for you I had let few good guys go”.

    I ended the night by giving her a goodbye hug. Driving home I felt some euphoria not dissimilar to the pump after a good workout.

    I honestly stay alive to hear stories like this! You better be careful though because when you say no you get a false rape accusation. Be careful with that dating

    I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

    #357147

    Anonymous

    Last night I rejected a woman I had been fooling around for past month; she wanted life-long companionship (without marriage as I made it clear that I will not get married). As the ‘date’ progressed she wanted to hold hands and hug, I said no without any explanation.

    What followed was a pouty face. We (I) were driving; I just turned up the volume and enjoyed some music while she sat on the passenger side. No efforts to try to figure out what is wrong or what I did wrong. F~~~ that.

    Later followed an emotional outburst of ‘how can you be like this? A robot, no feelings, I feel sorry for you’. Inside I was cracking up but didn’t want to laugh at her frustration to avoid any further escalation of the situation.

    Only rational point I made was why bother and not just stop hanging out with me if I am so robotic and have nothing good about me?

    More tantrums and accusations.

    As the night progressed and I outright said no to holding hands or touching her, she offered me the status of f~~~ buddy. (Tom Lykis was right, lol)

    I said no. She confessed the whole lifelong companionship was just a ‘thing’ (read: ploy) because she was certain that I would fall in love with her and change my mind.

    The only strong red pill I got was when I challenged certain beliefs she had about relationships and instead of defending them she smirked and said she didn’t quite care about them but followed along because that’s what I wanted. I expected her to defend her views but I felt pretty beta for trusting her on face value about what she pretended to want- companionship without living together or any legal ties. The smirk gave me chills.

    Basically, an hour of her trying hard at seduction followed by frustration eventually led to her stop caring about what I think of her since I am not going to fall for any of her tricks. There came her true colors. All she ‘felt’ for me seemed to evaporate and it is a good thing that in her words, ‘I am not the kind of person who stays attached for long’.

    Finally, what followed was- “You asshole for you I had let few good guys go”.

    I ended the night by giving her a goodbye hug. Driving home I felt some euphoria not dissimilar to the pump after a good workout.

    #356965
    PuniShredder
    PuniShredder
    Participant

    Oh it’s BAD boys…I was writing songs, recording and producing records until the end of 2014 in Nashville. Had retired from playing mostly in Europe at that point and after a short stint in LA, we moved to Nashville. I was there almost 4 years but I’d been playing there, writing there etc since about 02.

    In 2010 you had Zach Browns first album had hit Keith Urban and some other stuff that was really starting to sound like the music I wrote finally and I could see having some success writing for and producing artists. I had connections there doing just that so we made plans and moved there. 3 weeks in I get my first song published and I think it’s smooth sailing! WrONG!!

    By about the end of the first year there I was writing everyday, meeting and working with big writers and producers, getting smoking blown up my ass and making NO $$$!!! They kept signing all these young kids you hear on radio who can’t sing, can’t write and certainly can’t play when the town is FULL to the rim of talent that cans do all!!! My buddy Terry Lee started playing with this new kid out of Fresno..REAL green. Very mediocre…Barely can sing, write…Meanwhike Terry Lee played for Mark Chesnut, has a degree in guitar SMOKES world class at any style, sings his face off, writes his ass off but he can’t get a deal…record company puts him with the kid. They sign the f~~~ing kid!!!! The kid was John Pardi..I saw it time and time again and I began to see the hip hop generation influence in the music being pushed on the row to appeal to the younger demographic. That’s all it is. Record company BS steering the ship because it’s the music BUSINESS…Needless to say I got very disillusioned and it went down hill from there..got out of there 2 years ago yesterday and into Corporate/private events live music in the best place for that. Making money building the business up!

    Country music of old quality does exist both in sing and artist but you’ll never hear it on Radio. It’s ALL over Nashville however!! Just not downtown or Broadway. That’s tourist BS.

    Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

    #356707
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    Men will start to live longer because they finally will be free of the stress-induced diseases women use to kill them and take all their assets. With any luck, women will start to die faster because no one will do s~~~ for them anymore.

    Take a look around, you see than already. To some worn out Rockstar ladies people would say behind their backs: “Hope she gets as old as she already looks”. Now this applies to almost all post-wallers you see at any supermarket…

    Women wern’t built for 45 years of hard 9-to-5 work as a breadwinner. And since they scared their “financial sponsors” away, they have to work for themselves. And then they have to sacrifice all of their family plans and “dreams”. And when they are 50, they look like they are 70.

    I only feel sorry about the millions of cats that will have to suffer instead of us.

    Yes, and men will definitely live longer. Taking your 6-figures to nice restaurants, record shops and “wasting it” on electronic gear creates positive emotions and strenghtens the inner soul and ambitions of a man.

    But getting your 6-figures ripped by a parasite c~~~ that is never happy with whatever you give her will rather turn you into a broken man…

    “Behind every broken man there is a strong woman”

    No, rather:

    “Behind every great man, there is NO woman”

    It brings a huge smile to my face to think about the ass-kicking the bitches are going to receive and I only hope I can live long enough to see it hit them full force like a f~~~ing freight train.

    I feel exactly the same way.

    Women will try to change thier behavoir on the outside – to fool us – and then return to their hardwired ways after they trap a man. So beware. Been there, seen that. Guiding younger men through such s~~~ty tactics will be our task in the future. MGTOW for life.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)


    Anonymous

    Mine was a nun. She shaped my life regarding women.

    My father has stories that effected me adversely, they would wack his knuckles with a wooden ruler as hard as they could! They lived to torture the boys in any way they could. He hated the church ever since then.

    But still the toxic c~~~ teachers were putting everything down that boys were interested in.

    My grade school turned the playground into a parking lot, that’s how bad it is, the school was built in 1919 and by the 90s they all but destroyed recess and recreation, perhaps that’s why there’s so many depressed boys and fat little landwhale girls. Google Satellite shot below, big beautiful PARKING LOT.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0826442,-72.5502611,122m/data=!3m1!1e3

    Germany was once the “highflyer” among the best in the world.

    Yes, absolutely, I studied allot of industrial arts that came from Germany, master sheet steel workers, your techniques are known throughout the world, like your superior WWII helmets, they’re pressed in three different dies rather than one punch like ours, hereby making the sides thick and the top paper thin, they stretched the metal more evenly by three different strikes, first the brim, then the sides, then the dome in the final strike, you guys were also master forging and planishing hammer craftsmen. You were pounding out sheet metal like dough with a hammer while the english were still trying to roll it out by hand in an English wheel roller pressing and shaping. I do both.

    But my average grades were still in the “C” range with “A’s” in some subjects and “D’s” in the c~~~ teacher’s subjects…

    Like looking at a mirror.

    #355229

    Topic: Hello

    in forum Introductions
    Ikhwan
    Ikhwan
    Participant

    It’s been a while since I’ve done this. I’ll make it brief.

    I’m from South East Asia, been MGTOW for 6 years now and without a doubt it’s been a turning point, a watershed moment in my life.

    I grew up watching the dysfunctional relationship of my parents;specifically how much of a mangina white knight my father was. That, coupled with a psychologically abusive mother and narcissistic, entitled older sister, resulted in a hostile living condition for all the boys in the household.

    The boys are oftened punished physically and mentally while the girls could f~~~ing do whatever they want with impunity. My mother would complain and nag as well as turn her sons against the father despite the fact that my father is a great protector and provider, while my older sister would demean and berate her brothers openly.

    I saw the thing played out in the wider society. Where thirsty cucks would supplicate to women. There was something wrong with women getting the pussy pass that I can’t grasp why this was allowed to happen. Regrettably and shamefully, I’ve done them too, I’m not going to lie, but only because I didn’t know better. Thinking that if I was a good protector and provider, then women, men and society would reward me.

    Boy, was I wrong.

    It turns out that women really don’t care about honor, integrity, honesty, compassion or fairness. The bottomline is, women just want wage slaves and f~~~ chad. I learned that the hard way. But I still couldn’t exactly put it all together yet.

    Then 6 years ago I stumbled across Razorbladekandy, Barbarossa, ManWomanMyth and Stardusk,and everything I experienced, all the observations I made, now had a concrete explanation and evidence behind it all. Hypergamy, neoteny, pussy pass, white knighting, narcissism, solipsism, sexual dimorphism; everything I saw now had a name and a reason for it.

    It was revelation.

    I could finally let go of the shame that was put on me and the guilt that was stewing inside. I can clearly see through the lies and subterfuge and it felt liberating.

    Going my own way had saved my future and helped me buried the past.

    I’ve come to mgtow central often to read the great posts by members and thought I’d join after seeing really great posts by Keymaster.

    So, hello, I’m a man going his own way and it’s f~~~ing fantastic to be here.

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