My obsession with female approval

[Tea BagParticipant 306]

MGTOW helped me realize that I am more than enough.

I first heard about MGTOW in the Youtube comments section of various anti-feminist videos. At the time, I thought it was a little “extreme”, completely walking away from marriage and serious relationships with women. I was raised to believe that marriage was a part of life, as natural as breathing, and the thought of one day marrying “the girl of my dreams”, having kids, and living a comfortable suburban life with a six figure salary always made me giddy.

High school was a boring time for me. I was a skinny fat, video game addicted slacker throughout all four years. After graduation my virginity was still in tact, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and never even been on a date. I had just turned 18 when I came to the conclusion that it was because I was physically unattractive. I told myself “okay, just workout, get in shape, get a hot girlfriend and life will be good.” I had a big goal: turn my 5’9 pudgy physique into a lean muscle, six pack machine. My sole motivation for working out was to get girls, and that only recently changed.

After two years of exercising on and off, I ended up in better shape than I was but still nowhere near where I wanted to be. At 20 years old, I was still a virgin and still hadn’t kissed a girl yet. That changed one night at a house party hosted by my best friend where I ended up kissing a girl as a result of Truth or Dare (sad, I know). A couple weeks later, I lost my virginity to the same girl. We did become official, and I followed her around like a lost puppy day in and day out until she went off to college (she was 18 at the time). Needless to say, she cheated on me with multiple guys. No, she didn’t tell me, I found out from my friend which made me feel worse.

My dating life became more active after that fiasco and I kept up with working out still solely based on being more attractive to women, but I never saw the results I wanted and I was never truly happy. Most of the girls I’ve had relationships with since that time, I was actually the one that pulled the plug mainly due to the girl being too boring. That made me wonder if women really were as special and amazing as I thought they were.

At age 22, with an Associate’s degree in Business Admin from a community college, I got a decent entry level job at a mutual fund company transfer agency. The pay was good enough for me to finally move out on my own, but I absolutely hated the job. I stuck with it though due to my family telling me that if I was going to get married and start a family, I would need a good job to support my wife and kids. It was also a mantra that I kept on telling myself over and over again. However, I one day decided that my happiness was worth more to me than a blue pill fantasy and that I had higher expectations for myself, so I resigned from my job and moved back home with my parents (they were not happy).

It wasn’t until recently that I started researching the idea of MGTOW. I read articles, visited websites such as this one, and watched Youtube videos by MGTOW men like Howard Dare and Sandman. I noticed that not only was what I learned making sense, but that men that have gotten married, had kids, and good paying jobs all seemed to wish that their lives were different. Men that were living a life that I always thought I wanted wished things were different. I was intrigued.

Well, here I am. I am now 23 years old, living at home with my parents, and working a very easy going job at a plumbing warehouse. I do not have a six pack (yet), but what I do have is clarity. I have learned women are simply not worth it. They are not worth chasing, sacrificing for, or in my case bettering yourself for. The only person’s approval I need is my own, no one else’s. As for what I plan on doing with my life, I’m still figuring that out but I know one thing for certain: I am going my own way.

Sorry for the long post.

No speaky until the man speaky to you.

[Anonymous 54]

Way to go Bull Moose! At the end of the day it is only our own approvel that we need.Womens approval is valueless.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Congratulations, Bull Moose. You have taken a gigantic step in understanding how you were wrongly programmed, before it was too late. Welcome to the Forum. You will find a lot of useful information and advice here.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

You’re lucky. You learned early on that investing time, energy, emotion and resources in an effort to please a girl is a colossal wasted investment. I wish I had been as lucky at your age. You’ll have the hormone problem for a while but just practice safe-pump & dump until you get over nature’s hurdle.

Welcome aboard the MGTOW reality express—warning once you accept the red-pill truth there is no going back, it would be like trying to un-learn how to ride a bike.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Welcome,

Once you have the red pill knowledge it doesn’t leave you. Even if you fall for someones charms you will be watching out for red flags early on. Wish I had this knowledge at 23, but I like you was fed a pack of outdated lies from the get go. Free your mind and your body will follow 🙂

It's Time to get Wise

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

Tea Bag wrote:

Well, here I am. I am now 23 years old, living at home with my parents, and working a very easy going job at a plumbing warehouse. I do not have a six pack (yet), but what I do have is clarity.

Damn. I wish I had that at your age. It took me another 12 years.
Welcome to the forums.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome, with your age, knowledge, and wisdom the world is yours to make as you wish.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[JVBParticipant]

Welcome brother. Wise beyond your years. Carry on my good friend. You are amongst friends.

Peace is > piece.

[Anonymous 42]

Tea Bag wrote:

Sorry for the long post.

No appology necessary, read every word and liked it, I’m glad you have your values straightened out. When it comes to our society and marriage it’s GAME OVER.

I chose the MGTOW path in this gynocentric universe and I know I couldn’t have lived it any better! I never regretted my choice to go my own way, in fact as time goes on I know it was the right choice to make.

Welcome!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome Bull Moose

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Tea BagParticipant 306]

Thank you to everyone who read my introduction and replied with a warm welcome. I feel better about being a MGTOW every single day.

No speaky until the man speaky to you.

[Anonymous 16]

Tea Bag wrote:

MGTOW helped me realize that I am more than enough.

I first heard about MGTOW in the Youtube comments section of various anti-feminist videos. At the time, I thought it was a little “extreme”, completely walking away from marriage and serious relationships with women. I was raised to believe that marriage was a part of life, as natural as breathing, and the thought of one day marrying “the girl of my dreams”, having kids, and living a comfortable suburban life with a six figure salary always made me giddy.

High school was a boring time for me. I was a skinny fat, video game addicted slacker throughout all four years. After graduation my virginity was still in tact, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and never even been on a date. I had just turned 18 when I came to the conclusion that it was because I was physically unattractive. I told myself “okay, just workout, get in shape, get a hot girlfriend and life will be good.” I had a big goal: turn my 5’9 pudgy physique into a lean muscle, six pack machine. My sole motivation for working out was to get girls, and that only recently changed.

After two years of exercising on and off, I ended up in better shape than I was but still nowhere near where I wanted to be. At 20 years old, I was still a virgin and still hadn’t kissed a girl yet. That changed one night at a house party hosted by my best friend where I ended up kissing a girl as a result of Truth or Dare (sad, I know). A couple weeks later, I lost my virginity to the same girl. We did become official, and I followed her around like a lost puppy day in and day out until she went off to college (she was 18 at the time). Needless to say, she cheated on me with multiple guys. No, she didn’t tell me, I found out from my friend which made me feel worse.

My dating life became more active after that fiasco and I kept up with working out still solely based on being more attractive to women, but I never saw the results I wanted and I was never truly happy. Most of the girls I’ve had relationships with since that time, I was actually the one that pulled the plug mainly due to the girl being too boring. That made me wonder if women really were as special and amazing as I thought they were.

At age 22, with an Associate’s degree in Business Admin from a community college, I got a decent entry level job at a mutual fund company transfer agency. The pay was good enough for me to finally move out on my own, but I absolutely hated the job. I stuck with it though due to my family telling me that if I was going to get married and start a family, I would need a good job to support my wife and kids. It was also a mantra that I kept on telling myself over and over again. However, I one day decided that my happiness was worth more to me than a blue pill fantasy and that I had higher expectations for myself, so I resigned from my job and moved back home with my parents (they were not happy).

It wasn’t until recently that I started researching the idea of MGTOW. I read articles, visited websites such as this one, and watched Youtube videos by MGTOW men like Howard Dare and Sandman. I noticed that not only was what I learned making sense, but that men that have gotten married, had kids, and good paying jobs all seemed to wish that their lives were different. Men that were living a life that I always thought I wanted wished things were different. I was intrigued.

Well, here I am. I am now 23 years old, living at home with my parents, and working a very easy going job at a plumbing warehouse. I do not have a six pack (yet), but what I do have is clarity. I have learned women are simply not worth it. They are not worth chasing, sacrificing for, or in my case bettering yourself for. The only person’s approval I need is my own, no one else’s. As for what I plan on doing with my life, I’m still figuring that out but I know one thing for certain: I am going my own way.

Sorry for the long post.

I am 44 but at 23 i had a revelation ahaha so to speak i dated girls from 18 to 23, got cheated on, lied gave my all to them for just ending up being dumped. I had a good shape been lifting weights since i was 13y old. At 23 i met 2 strippers that showed me the ropes and i bang a lot of women.

You are still young, you need to forget social programming women are worst then men now they are selfish and cheat on your any chance they get, there loyalty is gone.

I got tricked into getting back in a relationship with a fatty at 30y old due to social programming. You need to kill this s~~~ right away marriage kids soul mate the one… f~~~ all that s~~~. Play the game like they do that’s all they deserve.

You don’t need a six pack to get women train lift weights stay fit do it for yourself, this is what i do now, yeah a good body will attract women broad shoulders a good chest small waist these bitches go crazy for that consider that 99% of people on the planet are out of shape.

If i knew then what i know now, i would have saved up so much money avoid long term relationship leading no where and avoid all that pain it caused me.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Welcome, brother! It’s just like the way religion deals with people: get ’em while they’re young! Be glad you saw the light at such a young age, because there are plenty of old(er) men here who saw the light too late and are now stuck with paying child support and c~~~imony.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome!
self worth is never based on the opinions of others.
or it would be called “otherworth”…

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

A very interesting intro.

Glad you learned the truth early.

Welcome.

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[Anonymous 8]

Welcome to the forums.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, BullMoose
Jump in.
I look at it as a success for MGTOW.com every time a young guy like you heeds the message.
Lots of us had to get divorce raped before we figured that out.
I look forward to your posts.

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