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    Kael'Tyr
    Kael’Tyr
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    Sirs, Gents,

    I’ve browsed your forums anonymously for several months, learning from the stories people have offered up. A lot of you have endured hardships at the hands of women, and so my path to MGTOW may not seem as arduous, but I make this intro as a way of trying to deal with the events that have happened, and try to come to some sort of working relationship with women.

    A little about myself, I am British, late 20’s, Military Officer, Pilot by trade, and single for 4 years. The term MGTOW has only just become new to me, however looking at the things that the concept values, I would say that I have been embracing it for several years now, and I will try to explain why.

    My interactions with women have never been great, from early school years I wasn’t “attractive” or “cool” my friends had girlfriends, but I studied. The first push down the MGTOW path was in my late teens, my first girlfriend, first “love”, after 3 years together I was cheated on after a week at uni.

    Subsequently I had a string of girlfriends, none really lasting longer than a few months, all showing some sort of crazy, manipulative tendencies. I believed myself to be the problem, I wasn’t good enough, I couldn’t attract the right sort of woman. I went to the gym, tried a bit harder, no results. Fast forward 4 years, strings of short relationships with little to show other than a notch on the bedpost, finally was with someone that was tolerable, she told me she loved me, I couldn’t say it back, something wasn’t quite right. We ended; that was my last serious girlfriend.

    All that was a very long way of saying I had a poor interactions with women from young, cheated on multiple times, dealing with mood swings and arguments, none of it particularly out-of the ordinary, if perhaps a little unlucky. However, the thing that would cause me to wash my hands of women would be one single event, not even directed towards me.

    The night in question I had come home from work to my parents house, I would normally make myself something to eat as most of the family had eaten by then. I was welcomed home by my mother who offered me a bacon sandwich, this was my first indication that something was wrong. A bacon sandwich, to my mother, does not constitute a decent evening meal. I accepted, went to the living room to see my father staring blankly at some mind numbing reality TV. Second indication. He hates reality TV. I decided to sit and wait for some explanation.

    It came shortly after the bacon sandwich; my dad had been arrested. I was dumb founded, my father is an honest hardworking man. He had always been employed, always provided, raised me in true British stiff upper lip fashion, with respect and values. I couldn’t imagine him being arrested. The explanation furthered, it was for sexual assault.

    As background, as myself and my siblings grew up, my parents decided to foster as they liked “parenting” the latest they had was a young girl, 18, who was pregnant. Her mother had been incapable of looking after her, so the authorities gave them to my parents. She gave birth to the child at our house, and was now raising it with my mother acting a guide. As part of the fostering process my parents had to keep a diary on how she was tending to the baby as the authorities were also worried for its well being. The diary did not read favorably for her, and she was in danger of loosing it, so she did what every woman has the ability to do.

    I remember sitting there as my mother explained, she had gone to the police, accused my father of touching her sexually, and inappropriately. He was arrested immediately, and put in a holding cell, details taken, record created, life changed in a fleeting moment by a few words from an 18YO girl. She was immediately removed from my parents care, placed in social housing with her child who she could now keep.

    I cant express the emotion at the way I felt. My father, my idol,a decent honest man was destroyed in an afternoon by a lying child. I had a whole host of thoughts of what to do, most of them bad, some of which I am not proud of. “The system” meant to protective people, so easily perverted to destroy our lives, that was the power she had, a simple word, no evidence. Clearly the event never took place, but there were no repercussions for her lying, and the record is permanent. She got what she wanted, the consequences didn’t occur or matter to her.

    It felt like this belonged in a film, not real life. I confided only in my boss at work, I personally have not spoken about it to anyone else until this day, but I feel it is damaging my ability to interact and trust women.

    The aftermath?
    I joined the military, pursued a job that I loved, I now fly helicopters, go to the gym for my health, own my own house and car, am teaching myself piano and enjoy computer gaming.
    My family has moved on, no lasting damage to them it seems.
    From what I have heard the girl now has a second child, by a second dad, still single, smokes, and will never actively contribute to society. I wonder if she realizes what she did that day.
    I have contemplated looking her up, but decided against it, no good can come of it.
    Those of you wondering about my first girlfriend; married, and fat.

    I haven’t had a proper girlfriend since then, I can’t trust them. I date intermittently, I feel I have little to gain from a relationship other than sex. I say intermittently as in today’s dating world where I perceive women demand so much but give so little, I run out of motivation quickly.

    I am sometimes jealous of my friends, they are all married, some expecting children. I don’t believe that is something that I can have now, I also believe that they aren’t as happy as they make out to be, so its no great loss.

    I imagine in the eyes of some of you this is a lesson learned early, I tend to agree with that statement the majority of the time.

    Sirs, Gents, I hope that this hasn’t come across as a woe-is-me woman bashing essay. I mainly wrote this as a way of trying to rid myself of these demons, maybe it will help me, maybe it wont. For those of you that read all of it, perhaps it was interesting to you. I’m not sure how it has served as an introduction, but it was the thing that lead me away from women, away from dating and down the path of self improvement.

    I am Kael’Tyr, and I am trying to become a man going his own way.

    Thanks for reading.

    #359022
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    Just WOW. Incredible story. Sadly, all too common. That’s quite a dose of reality. Welcome Kael’Tyr. You’re among friends & family.

    When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

    #359026
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    The Laughing Man
    The Laughing Man
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    Thanks for sharing, welcome home.

    I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

    #359035
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    Greg Honda
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    Welome from a fellow Brit. Our country is messed up and getting worse. I feel we will eventually die out as a National identity as our women are not worth breeding with. All we can do is look after ourselves and watch the decline.

    It's Time to get Wise

    #359042
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    Atton
    Atton
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    I am trying to become a man going his own way.

    From everything I have just read you already are. Men who take their freedom and security seriously tend to fall into the MGTOW category pretty quickly.
    Welcome it was a really good read hope to hear more.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #359045
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    BlacqueJacqueShellacque
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    Welcome Kael’Tyr. Thank you for the introduction. I was falsely charged with a sexual assault when I was seventeen. I am 41 now and have never fully recovered. My accuser has never had to answer for her false allegations. The MGTOW lifestyle has been a shining light in the darkness for me. These crimes, false accusations, should be met with the same brutality from the law as those they impose on the innocent. Sending your dad a handshake from Canada. I know the pain she has caused him. Peace man.

    #359050
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    JVB
    JVB
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    Thanks for sharing KT. Welcome brother. You’re amongst friends and looking forward to hearing more from you.

    Peace is > piece.

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    Badger
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    Welcome Kael’Tyr. I am glad you shared that story and that it helped you to share it. It made me realize that a barber I once knew was right when he told me he was falsely accused by his ex-wife of child sex-abuse. Like your father, he also said he did nothing. Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men. Those women are your real enemies, not MGTOW.

    #359079
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    FrostByte
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    Welcome KT
    Too bad your dad had to suffer like that.
    It seems that with woman the adage is true “No Good Deed Goes Unpunished”.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #359084
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    Anonymous
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    Welcome Kael’Tyr.
    Thank you for sharing your story.
    Men need to ear these things.

    Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men.

    This would require some empaty for men, something they do not have.

    Women will read this and take note of a good strategy.

    #359117
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    Anonymous
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    I am sorry to hear of the false accusation your father had to endure at the hands of, yes, a child.

    The system seemingly protects victims of abuse but our views of who the victim or perpetrator is are set in stone. A man can never be a victim, nor can a woman ever be a perpetrator.

    Things like this form the bedrock of mgtow philosophy. In the end the question is not why go the mgtow route, but why not?

    Warm welcome, brother.

    #359133
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    Phantom
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    I am sometimes jealous of my friends, they are all married, some expecting children. I don’t believe that is something that I can have now, I also believe that they aren’t as happy as they make out to be, so its no great loss.

    Welcome home brother! Sorry to hear that about your dad & the hell & pain.

    I did the married/divorce gauntlet twice…I tried to be happy, damn near went insane trying that happy wife happy life bulls~~~.

    I have yet to meet or know of any married man in my life being happy, and if they were, they hid it well…

    Unless forced smiles & awkward moments count.

    Great intro!

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    The Manipulated Man
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    Greetings KT.

    Thanks for introducing yourself and making it a good one.

    Your writing is excellent. I look forward to reading your stories in the Forum.

    Your introduction is inspiring, interesting, and funny.

    Those of you wondering about my first girlfriend; married, and fat.

    Me Too! LOL

    Here is a before and after example:

    Sharing what happened to your father is much appreciated.

    When dealing with women, a man is guilty until proven innocent. His Social class and standing in the community are irrelevant these days.

    …..I mainly wrote this as a way of trying to rid myself of these demons, maybe it will help me, maybe it wont…..

    It helped me a lot to write about the false “domestic abuse” accusations that I experienced. The perpetrator was an American woman with English/ Irish/ French blood.

    However, your father’s story helped to bring up a forgotten memory of what happened to my youngest brother. A month after he married a young “high-class” Brazilian woman, she had him arrested and in jail based on her lies alone.

    Hint: “Domestic Abuse” is a fast track method of getting American Citizenship for a foreign bride.

    My Brother had a successful video surveillance business in Madison Wisconsin and was fortunate to record the truth. However, the arresting police were not interested in seeing the video of what really “happened.” Even with video evidence he had to spend time in jail and after his release he was not allowed into his home, business, or properties for over a month.

    Eventually, my brother forced the judge to examine the video evidence of her doing all of the domestic violence and the case was eventually dropped. His prenuptial agreement helped him later in the divorce.

    Note: He credits Trump for having the wisdom to get the prenuptial agreement.

    …..I joined the military, pursued a job that I loved, I now fly helicopters…..

    Some American MGTOWs have written about the disaster of women in the US military. The lowered standards, preferential treatment, and promotion of woman into leadership have created a dangerous situation.

    Without risking your secret identity, can you provide some insight into this compromised situation within the UK or EU military?

    What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

    #359198
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    Badger
    Badger
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    Badger wrote:
    Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men.

    Ghostdog wrote:
    This would require some empathy for men, something they do not have.
    Women will read this and take note of a good strategy.

    Unfortunately, you are right. That is the way they operate.

    #359243
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    Anonymous
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    Welcome home, Kael’Tyr
    You and your father are not alone. This kind of thing has happened forever. When I was in high school a male teacher was accused of “moral terpitude” (ok, that was a long time ago) Two girls wanted a higher grade and he refused based on attendance. They both accused him making sexual advances and offering to trade sex for grades. He was immediately terminated, jailed and has a record till this very day. About twenty years ago the girls, both much older with their own families, admitted in court that they made it up to get a higher grade for university entrance. However, his life is still ruined and there are no consequences for the two women.
    You are right not to trust and being alone with a woman is a dangerous endeavour.

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    SunStorm
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    Welcome Kael’Tyr. I am glad you shared that story and that it helped you to share it. It made me realize that a barber I once knew was right when he told me he was falsely accused by his ex-wife of child sex-abuse. Like your father, he also said he did nothing. Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men. Those women are your real enemies, not MGTOW.

    Wasted words. Women will always find a way to justify the actions of the sisterhood, probably being able to keep her baby justify her false accusations of sexual assault.

    You go girl.

    #359887
    Badger
    Badger
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    Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men. Those women are your real enemies, not MGTOW.

    Wasted words. Women will always find a way to justify the actions of the sisterhood, probably being able to keep her baby justify her false accusations of sexual assault.

    All the words on MGTOW must be wasted then, because men are telling women on this forum why men have gone their own way.

    #359893
    Kael'Tyr
    Kael’Tyr
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    Sirs, Gents,

    Wow, thank you for such a warm reception. Its comfortabling, and saddening to realize there are others who have experienced such circumstances. The passage was difficult for me to write, I had previously written and then decided to not post.

    Your sentiments are truly helpful, I feel this is another thing we as a sex suffer with; seeking help. As I stated I was raised with strong British values, be polite, respectful, have good manners, and as a man don’t show weakness however it may manifest.

    I think, talking and listening among kindred spirits here will be massively helpful to me. I implore anyone that was in my position; browsing the forums and reading this, maybe seeking help, speak up, have a voice. Already a small portion of the weight on my shoulders has been lifted by the gentlemen present, and its so much better – thank you.

    The Manipulated Man;

    Sir, to answer your question; fortunately the female officers I have met have been totally professional and a credit to their services, I’ve found that sex doesn’t affect rank.
    I can only speak from my personal experience in the aviation community where women aren’t common, but are assessed on the same exacting skills the men are – if they weren’t they would be dangerous. To caveat, these women have significantly more in common with men than the average woman, they are talented, driven and highly motivated.

    Thanks,

    KT

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    SunStorm
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    Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men. Those women are your real enemies, not MGTOW.

    Wasted words. Women will always find a way to justify the actions of the sisterhood, probably being able to keep her baby justify her false accusations of sexual assault.

    All the words on MGTOW must be wasted then, because men are telling women on this forum why men have gone their own way.

    When you address women you are wasting your words.

    They do not see us as humans with rights in the way as they…

    You don’t know about ‘female group preference’?

    We’re not here to talk to or reach out to women, or try to get them to understand our POV.

    As MGTOW we are beyond that.. or at least one would hope.

    #360334
    SunStorm
    SunStorm
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    Any women lurking on this forum should despise the women who make those false accusations about men. Those women are your real enemies, not MGTOW.

    Wasted words. Women will always find a way to justify the actions of the sisterhood, probably being able to keep her baby justify her false accusations of sexual assault.

    All the words on MGTOW must be wasted then, because men are telling women on this forum why men have gone their own way.

    When you address women you are wasting your words.

    They do not see us as humans with rights in the way as they…

    You don’t know about ‘female group preference’?

    We’re not here to talk to or reach out to women, or try to get them to understand our POV.

    As MGTOW we are beyond that.. or at least one would hope.

    Unless you’re ready to go back to the plantation for a traf con woman with a cherry pie in her hands with your name on it.

    Personally I’m never going back. The issue of male female relationships and our natural incompatibility goes beyond feminism and stretches back into the dawn of history.

    Nature f~~~ed up and MGTOW is an intelligent reaction to the error of blind nature.

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