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I’m certain that I’m not special in this aspect and I’ve become very aware of it as a MGHOW. It seems that my girlfriend is constantly and cunningly (or so she thought) asking me to volunteer information about things I’m doing in my life. I gave her information once and regretted it when the final outcome I projected didn’t go as planned. “I’m confused.” she said. “you said that blah blah blah…..”. My response was “Yes. I know what I said….I was there. Evidently, I was wrong.” Was the point that I had to admit I was wrong or that I erred in judgement? In any event, this bulls~~~ was f~~~ing irritating. So now, I never directly answer any of her questions or tell her about anything I’m doing except in the vaguest terms. Now I respond with “We’ll see. I don’t know. I hope so. I wish I knew. I’m not sure.” And other non answer answers along those lines. She says nothing but I know this irritates her. A YouTube video I watched stated that information was currency to women and I truly believe that. So, for the time being, The Bank of Quiet Thom is closed for business.
AnonymousHello Fellow MGTOW brothers,
I am excited to see that so many of us found this sanctuary called MGTOW.com. I have been at aw the past few months reading the forums. Happy to see that I am not the only one who sees the illogical cultural system in which we live.
It has been an interesting journey through life thus far. I am 40 years old, been married twice and have been in one long term relationS~~~. But it didn’t start there. I started noticing a problem with the way females act in our culture back in the early 1990s. This is where my story begins.
I grew up in a small west Texas oil town. I had a few girlfriends and one high school “sweetheart” If one could call her that. My mother and father were together during my childhood and still are today. My mother has only recently begun to latch on to the gynocentric culture. And believe me when I tell you, my dad is a miserable SOB since she discovered her new paradigm a little more than a decade ago. I can’t believe they are still together today. My dad only holds on because she will take him to the cleaners during his retirement years. So he is stuck. But I digress. Both my parents taught me that woman are fragile delicate flowers and to treat them as such. I should always have good manners and always make sure the female is treated with respect and dignity. I was actually like this and had this chivalrous way of thinking. The thing is, when I went to school or any social gathering with pears, I witnessed a different type of attitude coming from the girls. The girls who were supposed “good girls” were total whores, and arrogant bimbos. They acted as if they had something over me and other guys my age. They still expected the chivalry but acted like complete prostitutes and arrogant c~~~s. Most of the girls I encountered over my teen years were nothing but complete whores in training. From the c~~~s with money, to the hos in the projects, they were all very similar. I never really thought about the differences between what I was seeing in society and what my parents were trying to teach me. After all I was only a teenager. But when one looks back on the past, the problems we had and the solutions to them are clear as day.
I moved away from it all when I was 19. I went to work on a ranch in Wyoming for a couple years and was able to clear my head. So I thought. I “figured it all out” so I thought. From society’s teachings, I was going to find a good woman and settle down. So I moved to a small town in Wyoming and went to school. That is where I met my future wife. No better place to meet a mate than in college so I was told. At the time, I was studying photography and mathematics. I met a “great” girl who had a religious upbringing and was the perfect girl with morals and ethics so I thought. I should have known what she was when we were dating but I decided to bury my head in the blue pill sand. One day when we were dating I came by her house to find a guy’s truck parked in her parking spot. When I confronted her, she told me a lie and I believed her. It wasn’t until months later that I found out the truth. But it was too late, we had been married. She wanted to please me, I could tell, but there was a side to her that wasn’t quite right. She was a pathological liar come to find out. The whole thing had been a sham. Everything she told me about her past were all lies. She knew that I found her out and she was desperately seeking a way out of the relationship after I confronted her about her lying and unfaithfulness. She said she didn’t want to be with someone who didn’t trust her. I told her I didn’t want to be with someone who I couldn’t trust. One day, I came home for lunch and she was home. She said she wanted me to buy her a new car and that would make her happy. At this time in my life, money was not coming in as I was 21-22 years old. I told her we could not afford a car right now but later down the road I would get her something new to drive. She was very unhappy about my stance on the car and she began to cry and call me an ass hole. She wouldn’t let me leave to go back to work as she was blocking the front door so I left out the back door and went back to work. I few hours later, I was closing up the shop where I worked. A sheriff deputy pulled in and asked my boss if I was there. Of course I came running as I heard my name and thought something was wrong. The sheriff told me I was under arrest. When I asked for what, he wouldn’t tell me. After he put the cuffs on me he told me that I was under arrest for domestic violence, particularly for dropping my wife on her head. Yep, that is what she told police. I was never in anyway physical with this woman. She was such a liar. After I finally got out of jail, I went home to find my wife’s brothers and some other guy at my house ready to do battle. I just stood up to them and they eventually left. Later on I had to go to court and was order to take anger management which I did. Come to find out, she actually slammed her head against a wooden threshold on purpose so they would believe her story. And they did of course. What a c~~~! I divorced in this crazy bitch in 1999 and joined the Marine Corps at age 23. OORHA!
This is where it gets good as the lessons of the past relationship never took hold. I was under the thought process that I was unlucky and just found a bad apple. NAWALT? Right? … I made it through three years in the military without getting married. Those were the best times I had in the service. I already had someone barking orders at me and didn’t need another order barker in my face when I got home. I loved life! I could go long trips, pick up girls in bars, and make my own way. But I kept seeing my friends meet girls and marry them quickly and it seemed to be working for them. What a stupid observation on my part. The outside looking in is always better as we find out later in life.
It all changed when I returned home from the Afghan conflict. I wanted to get a wife and be happy again. The teachings of my upbringing came back to me like a vengeance. I needed a mate and that is all I focused on aside from training in the military. One day when I was home on leave, I went to fill my grandfather’s prescription at the pharmacy and there she was behind the counter. The good looking, down to earth girl I had been looking for was standing in front of me filling my grandfather’s prescription. She was like an angel. WOW, I was stupid. Just writing this makes me mad at myself all over again. Anyway, We immediately hit it off and she would come down to San Diego to visit and I would make frequent trips back home to see her. 6 months later we were married. She moved down and of course I got a bump in pay ( BAH ect..). Things couldn’t be better. Then we found out that she was pregnant and we were very excited. It was a happy time. There was some talk between her mother and her regarding whether or not she should terminate the pregnancy. I was not involved in those discussions, but I was able to convince my wife to have our baby despite her mother’s opinion. At this time I got called to go to Iraq. I would be gone for at least 6 months. I ended up doing 8 months in Iraq and had a few close calls in the war theater (See the movie “Sever Clear” to lean more. I am in this movie/documentary several times). I returned home just in time for the birth of my baby girl. It was a happy time indeed. My wife asked me to not reenlist and to get out of the military all together. So as I came up on my EAS I thought long and hard and made the choice to get out for the sake of my family. So I did.
We moved to a town in Texas where I would go to School on the GI Bill and she would work at a local pharmacy once our little girl was old enough to go to preschool. I started a degree in business, economics and finance and worked part time at a paint store. My wife mainly took care of our baby and did odd jobs for people around the town. She started growing distant and taking frequent trips to her mom’s and other family members during my second year of school. I had obligations at school and work and couldn’t go on most of the trips with them. Come to find out, she was seeing a guy who was a single dad with two kids. I did not find this out until after she left me. I came home from work one day to find everything had been cleaned out. Everything! Pots, pans, beds, cleaning supplies. Everything! Pictures were left behind by accident. She also took out the saving account. She took my 3 yo little girl and left me with nothing. Not even a pot to p~~~ in. I was ruined in my mind. It was awful. I had no idea what went wrong. I was shocked and could not believe that I could be betrayed by this woman who I loved and had a child with. It all came to light later on. Time has a way of revealing the truths that are all so inconvenient.
My mother was not happy with me at all. My father was livid and would hardly talk to me. They could not understand why their son could be going through a divorce AGAIN. In their minds it was obviously a problem with me. After all, who is the common denominator? That’s right, It is good ole me. So they wanted to make sure I knew how to treat woman and I had a long lecture at the age of 28. It turns out, I was doing what they taught me to do. I was providing for the family. I was offering love and emotional support all the time. I was leaving little love notes on the fridge. I would give my wife several breaks a day from the baby so she could clear her head and get away. I understood all this. I was doing what I was taught and quite frankly felt good about doing it. My wife was the one missing something. She spent her days watching feminist propaganda on daytime TV and I would hear about how men are s~~~ and women are gods all the time. I of course being the magina that I was, I would not dare disagree wholly. When she would start telling me about what she heard on Ellen or Oprah, sometimes I would say things like, “that is a bit extreme don’t you think?” That would always cause her to get p~~~y and I would always back down. Until one day I had enough. I told her that I thought she may be mentally ill. Her thought processes were always backwards and she had such a s~~~ty way of looking at people and situations that there must be something wrong with her brain. It was the only thing I could come up with as the problem. Certainly she wasn’t evil on purpose? Right? Well, that was it for her. When I came home from work the next day she was gone. After a few weeks, I filed for divorce. She still took me to the cleaners and I lost every round in the divorce proceedings. I lost everything, from custody to child support to geographic restrictions. I lost every round! This is when I promised myself that I will never marry again!
She got engaged to a low IQ dumbdumb who she was seeing while we were still married. ie the frequent trips ect… He was going to save my ex-wife from her ass hole ex. Right? Not quite. This guy had two kids so my little girl had a step sister and brother. My ex-wife was going to adopt these two kids as well. They ended up getting married a few months later. A year later, she filed for divorce. Interestingly enough she filed for divorce on the same day she was to adopt his two children. She left him high and dry as well. What a C~~~!
She went through several other men in the course of a few years. She would take my little girl on all her excursions across the western half of the country. She would go live with this guy then go live with that guy, then another. One day during a visit, my little girl tells me that a drive by shooting had occurred at her house and the bullet went through her bedroom wall. At this point, I was not a happy man. I knew that a little girl needs her mother but this was completely ridiculous. It turned out that my ex had shacked up with some thug who had a questionable past to say the least. I finally got fed up with the nomadic bulls~~~ as she was taking my little girl out of school and moving to another town every time she fell in love. I filed for full custody in 2011. $15,000 later I lost every round in the custody proceedings. The judge did not care about the drive by shooting or the nomadic lifestyle of my ex wife. Even though I was a hard working, well educated man with a good job and a veteran, I was told that my child will remain in the custodial custody of her mother and I was ordered to pay more child support. That was my first real dose of the red pill and it was very hard to swallow.
Shortly after, I became a disaster. I still thought something was wrong with me. I needed a woman. I needed companionship. But all these women are s~~~. What did I do…. I just started dating girls like crazy. As soon as I saw a major flaw in one of them, I would duck and run. It was exhausting. I finally stopped the madness when I moved for work. I liked the single life and made the most of it. My friends and family kept asking me when I was going to find someone and settle down. This brings me to the latest of the womaen in my life.I ended up landing a big job. I moved to the big city in Texas. I promised myself that I would not meet girls in bars and I would find a good place to meet nice girls in the city. One day, I was outside on the porch of my apartment and a girl walks by with her little chihuahua puppy. I said hi to her and never thought anything of it again as she was not all that attractive and she didn’t seem all that interested in me either. A few days later I saw her again and we hit it off. I started going over to her house every day after work. We would go eat and just hang out in her apartment. We talked about everything. Culture, work, music, politics etc.. I thought that I found a unicorn. Life was great. I asked her out and we had sex all the time. It was fun. I had her move in with a year later and that is where the trouble began.
I came home from work on night and she was not there. So I called her cell and no answer. I called several time a few hours later. Then she showed up slobbering drunk yelling at me. Telling me I have no right to call her as many times as I did. She threw some things and then stabbed my couch with a kitchen knife. There was a lot of yelling and screaming so I left as I was sure the police would be called. We both left for the night. When I came back she was there and she never said a word about what had happened. She acted as if everything was normal. I wanted to talk about it and she said she did not want to talk. Then she said she forgot the whole thing even happened. These kinds of events would happen for several years. We would have 90-100 days of peace and then she would have a drunken episode. Every time I tried to talk to her about the problem she would tell me she didn’t remember. This was frustrating because I wanted to make it work. It was hard for me to admit that she had a problem. It turns out she had a feminist friend and mother who would tell her how men are the evil beings on the planet and must be exterminated. I kid you not. She actually told me that during one of her drunken rages. I started recording them too. I kicked her out several times and she would always come back. Whether it was me feeling lonely and sorry for her or her just needing more money or a place to stay. When I moved away to Arizona, I thought it was over. We broke up, but she followed me here. She lived with me for the first year, Things were ok. She did not have a job and I told her that I would pay for her real estate exam and she could sell houses. She agreed and was excited. But the excitement shortly subsided when she realized it was a tough road. She told me just wanted to get a job in an office somewhere instead. I though ok, I just paid $4K fort this school but you can stop trying to sell houses if it makes you happy. What a mangina as was!
My little girl would visit every summer and she would treat her like garbage. I asked her not to drink in front of my little girl and she blatantly did it anyway. Telling me I am judgmental. She would get drunk and cause arguments right in front of her. All the while, I am trying to bring sanity to an insane human being.
She is still in my life but in a limited capacity. I cannot get rid of her completely because she threatens to blackmail me if I cut her off. So I am stuck paying for a few things of hers until further notice. I hope she finds a white night soon.
I have noticed similar traits in all women I have met. We can all tell that the arrogance and misandry are in full force into today’s culture. Most of these women have no clue that they are victims of the government and culture gone completely buttf~~~. I for one will not participate in the madness any longer.
Since I have made my choice to be MGTOW in September 2015, life has only gotten better. I thank you fellow MGTOW brothers for writing in the forums as they keep me pointed in the right direction.Cheers,
Liberty@lastTopic: Pain
Heya,
Before I start, let me begin by saying this won’t be lighthearted or funny. This is a form of therapy for me, a way to vent and find support. This is a story about a chapter in my life, a relationship I had with the mother of my child, and the family court process that I’m still fighting today. I’m fully aware of my own major f~~~-ups that you are about to read about. I hope you can read this entire post. Excuse my bad spelling and grammar, it will get worse as I write on.
I’m Jay, 27, father, laborer, bartender, student, truth seeker.
When I was younger, still a virgin and never kissed or done anything with a girl, I moved into a place with my best mate and his girlfriend. All was fine for a long time, until they started to fight. Disagreements turned into full blown shouting matches over things like overdue dvds.
Long story short, one day my best mate breaks it off with her, says she’s crazy and can’t deal with her anymore (first red flag). All 3 of us stay living in the same place, as we had all become very close, a mistake all 3 of us would soon come to regret.
Months pass, my best mate begins dating his current wife and father of his kids, and is as happy as Larry. His Ex is distraught, I see her crying and moping around everyday, sleeping too much etc etc. During that time, I consoled her, I was there for her. We would sit on the porch, drink and smoke together while she would cry and express regrets and mistakes about her relationship with my bro.
I felt so sad for her, usually a passionate happy fiery bubbly beautiful girl had been reduced to a pile of ashes while my bro seemed to move on so quickly and into dating.
We became close during this time, just as friends. But, my feelings for her started to shift at a certain time I can’t pinpoint. About 6 months after they had broken up, I was completely and totally head over heels in love with my best friends ex-girlfriend. Remember, I was still a virgin and totally inexperienced with woman at this point, she knew this all to well but she did not know I loved her.A group of other friends and I rented a cottage at a mountain village for the weekend to go to a concert. My best mate chose not to go because she was going.
I had no intentions to express my feelings toward her, my loyalty to my bro was much stronger then that. Anyway, we had copious amounts of alcohol, weed and ecstasy for the weekend.
On the night of the concert, we got plastered beforehand, took our E and off we went.
When we arrived, happily drunk and close to peaking, I said I was gonna go on the theme park rides and if anyone wanted to come. She decided to come with me. We laughed and chatted about random crap as we waited in the queue, buzzing off of the e. On the ride, she started to feel ill, she grabbed my hand and held it tight. I talked her through it, my heart racing.
When the ride stopped, we walked to the concert, it was extremely muddy and people were wasted and falling everywhere. At one point, a person fell into her, I caught her before she hit the ground and put her back to her feet. We looked at eachother and started kissing passionately and it felt like we had kissed before. This was my first real proper kiss.
We danced together, occasionally kissing.
When we got back to the place we rented, I rubbed one out and then settled in my bed alone and tried to sleep, of course getting nowhere. She came in and asked to talk, she questioned me about what happened, about what we would do about my bro (her ex) and I said we would tell him straight up. She asked what would happen between me and her, I said I didn’t know, she said she didn’t think that we would ever kiss again as I would be to scared because of my virginity and my bro, wanting to prove her wrong, I sat up and passionetly kissed her again. After the kiss, she said “you’re a dick” and ran away to her room. Nothing further happened that night.When we got back home from that trip, we told my bro that night what happened, he laughed and seemed fine with it, he said “yeah I thought you guys might have a thing”. He seemed completely ok with it, and gave us his blessing but nothing further happens between me and her for awhile, we were best friends me and her so it was a little awkward.
Time goes on, she and I slowly start to pursue our feelings for eachother, she doesn’t know that I’m in love with her yet, but she is returning my affections.
One night, we are talking in the living room the 3 of us, my bro is drunk, I say im tired and decide to go to bed. But really, I wanted to leave them alone to see what would happen, I listen through the thin walls to there conversation. My bro is trying to get her to come to bed with him, she sounds conflicted and hesitates to answer but eventually says “I think im just gonna go to jays room and talk”. She does so, we start talking and she offers me a back rub.
My bro becomes understandably furious, my bed is creeking because its crap, and he thinks we are having sex.
He starts walking up and down the hallway banging the walls and shouting, we get up.
My bro is drunk, but he is hurting, he see’s his virgin best mate and his crazy ex-gf who he apparently still has feelings for hooking up and it hurts him. Drama unfolds for the next couple weeks, which includes me being punched which I took on the chin and purposly didn’t fight back, them two having sex behind my back and her trying to get my mate to lie to me about it saying it never happened, that must have hurt him. But we are good friends and he tells me the next morning. I felt heart broken, but I didn’t show it. I should have seen this second red flag. I was blind, I loved her.
Long story short, my bro moves out and continues to date his current wife, he gives us another blessing before moving out.
Her and I pursue a bf gf relationship.My bro and I are no longer best friends but are still good friends and we still talk from time to time. I understand I broke the bro code and betrayed his trust. He understands he gave his blessing when he didn’t mean it and how badly I wanted to be touched by a woman. He is supportive of me and not her in my current situation.
For months after that, things are heavenly. She and I writhe in bed with one another, me trying to lose my virginity and her trying to save it for a special time. The sexual tension is immense. One time, after yet another long foreplay, mr stroodle finds its way into the poontang pie, despite my complete inexperience, I last a good long time and give a bloody good performance. During this, my very first time in her heat she blurts out “cum in me”, which is the 3rd red flag. I don’t, I control myself and blow on her. My cherry is popped. Days after this, I tell her I love her and for how long ive loved her, she says “yeah I think I love you too” (bulls~~~).
Just weeks after this, we are driving home from a friends party, she randomly says out of nowhere “jared I think we should break up”, my heart slumps down and ask her why, she doesn’t give an answer and later that night retracts and apologizes for that statement. Odd but great things happen, like me waking in the night to her giving me a blowjob, then jumping on when she thinks im about to cum (4th red flag, she wants my seed).
We make plans to move to Australia so I can make more money and spend some time with my estranged father. We do so, and suddenly we are in a new country living with my father who I hardly know, this is when cracks really start to show. We both know noone over there.In Aussie, I am working hard, I would come home and smoke to much weed and play to much video games. We talk of having a child.
This goes on for awhile and she has had enough, this is when she began to physically and verbally abuse me. I impregnate her. She decides after that she wants to move back to New Zealand while I work and save for our child in Australia, we start a long term relationship, I work hard and all seems ok.
She comes back over for a couple months during her pregnancy to be with me, my behavior of smoking weed and playing video games doesn’t change. We fight all the time and at one point she bloodies me with her celphone (red flag).
We go to find out the gender of our child, she doesn’t want to know, I do. She leaves the room and the doc tells me I’m going to have a baby girl. I ring and tell my mother the good news, this makes my partner go into a fit of rage, jealous that my mother knows the news before she did. She hits me (red flag) and shortly after, leaves back to New Zealand, I stay to work. I save up and buy her a car, I struggle with my relationship with my father, but thats a story for another time and I end up wasting money on weed, computer parts and video games.The 9th month of pregnancy comes. I move back to New Zealand and start working as a Milk Merchandiser, a job I hated from start to finish. Her and I are fighting constantly and the relationship has turned toxic. She starts to say things that mess with my head (red flag), she uses her pregnancy as victim mode which turns people around us against me. I start to resent her.
My daughter is born, natural home birth, 45 minute labor. One of my proudest moments in life and one of the only times I was truly proud of my partner and her inner strength.
We have a newborn and I hate my job and resent my partner, the strain on me is to much and the inbalance in our relationship is not fair. I cope with smoking to much weed, playing to much video games and spending to much time at my friends place down the road. She tells me everything thats going wrong is my fault and I agree.
I quit my job and go for a failed 2 week stint in a stupid rediculous christian rehab (im not religious).It’s worth noting that her brothers grow weed fulltime. She would encourage me to go work for them to earn money and weed, she would come over and help us prune from time to time. She would smoke weed herself on occasion, but she always preferred her drink. She always encouraged me to smoke “in a more balanced way” rather then constantly.
Time goes on, our relationship gets worse and worse, I become depressed, I stay unemployed for over a year. I become convinced im a useless piece of s~~~. I try my best for my daughter, but am totally depressed. I smoke far too much weed and play far too much video games to cope. We both now deeply resent eachother, we stop having sex and I become nocturnal. Friends and family try to get me to break up with her, but I love her to much and am blind to the red flags and feel stagnant in a cirle of pain and love.
At one point, during an arguement in bed, she is verbally abusing me again, I turn around and punch her on her hip. The only time ive ever hit a woman. She had a big bruise there the next day. I apologized for it and she apologized for her provocation. I must admit, I wanted her to know what it felt like to be hit by someone you love, considering how often she would hit me. Assuming she ever did really love me.
Our relationship draws to its final close. My birthday comes around and her brothers shout me a night on the town which includes copious amount of alcohol, gambling strippers, weed and at the end of the night, a brothel.
I cheat on her, we all cheat on our girlfriends that night. An act that I regret to this day, I loved her but at that point, we were done anyway. Hooker was my 2nd ever woman Id slept with.
After an arguement about a month after I cheated, I blurt out that I had been with a hooker. I start crying and say im sorry. She sits there for a moment and then says “oh yeah well **** has a bigger c~~~!” referring to her ex bf my mate from above. Who know’s if its true or not but it hurt like hell. She pieces things together, and figures out her brothers were cheating on there gf’s also, fallout. I lose her brothers as friends.Our relationship officially ends, we cling to eachother for a little while, and I come to visit our daughter as often as she will let me, but she starts using breastfeeding and control games to inhibit my time with my baby.
She starts dating some new guy, they go on a date and I babysit, she tells me she had some form of sexual interaction with him but i dont want the details. She has sex with me that very same night. I’m disgusted in myself. My heart is breaking badly, but im not letting it out.Around this time, she manipulates me into signing a parenting order by saying “ill never get back with you unless you sign this”. I do so, the parenting order seems ok. But theres one line in there that she pushed to its fullest extent. I reads “contact can only be made through pre arrangement”. Well how can pre arrangement be made if she doesn’t communicate?
I became badly depressed, more depressed then ive ever been. She is being difficult with letting me see my daughter and it hurts. I smoke weed to cope, but its not helping, the weed is making me worse.
I go to her place, I try to reconcile, she rejects me.I leave her place that day, my heart is broken and im full of regret, her hurtful words ringing through my head, issues with my father pop up. Issues of feeling weak, useless, pathetic, negative self talk etc etc.
I make my decision, Im going to kill myself, I tell noone. I start up my car, I dont put on my seatbelt. I smash myself into a power pole at 120kms. I knock the powerpole over, the car is totalled. The airbag deploys I emerge with only bruises to my rips and knees, I was very lucky.
I’m fully aware how selfish that was of me being a father, I know, trust me I know. Ive spent countless hours kicking myself for this fact. Nobody can punish me harder then I punish myself.So.. I spend a couple of weeks in the looney bin, a couple of days after my crash Im still wanting to finish the job, but the staff and nurses are amazing, and the sedation is effective. I calm down after a week.
Im released from the looney bin and my path to true healing begins. My ex partner refuses to communicate and offers me only supervised contact at a supervised contact center with my daughter.
For a time, I refuse as I believed I don’t need to be supervised with my daughter as I would never hurt her. But I can see her logic nowadays. After awhile, I just want to see my baby, so begrudgingly I accept supervised contact as it is my only option.So I take her to court to vary the parenting order. Still in love with her, I stupidly make my affidavit totally passive and make it only about contact arrangements for my daughter. I stupidly tell the truth about all the mistakes ive made written here.
She replies all guns blazing, she attacks me about everything and uses my own pain against me, she lies through her teeth.
She tells the truth about:
*my depression
*my unemployment
*my issues with my father
*my cheating on herShe lies about:
*drugs and alcohol and having zero tolerance toward it during our relationship
*my ability to parent and her never leaving me alone with my daughter
*her family and there issues (her mother has schizophrenia)
*her own abuse and violence toward me
*my one violent punch to her hip
*my issues with my mother and how that relates to her (weird)
*her issues with my mother
*my mother not caring about her grandaughter (my daughter)
*a fight that she herself instigated with a friend
*my suicide attempt
*a friendly drunken playfight/brawl I had with a friend
*something im forgettingNow, interestingly enough. She submitted her own mental health history to the court. She has in the past been diagnosed with Acute Psychotic Disorder, Egocentricity and Grandiosity. This was a huge revelation to me, and explained her anger, outbursts, selfishness and irrationality. Also, upon talking with her a couple of her ex-bf’s to figure out wat the f~~~, it all became clear, I was dealing with a highly manipulative, totally insecure, highly damaged cold hearted actress the entire time, this was great closure for me.
Ok, so these days. I’m still in court fighting to vary the same parenting order. I’ve stopped smoking weed and have passed my first hair follicle drug test, I have another coming up soon. I work and go to the gym. I’m studying addiction and mental health studies as I eventually want to become a suicide prevention councellor. I’m doing a parenting course to improve my chances of success in court. I’m seeing a councellor who just happens to be a beautiful woman. I practice mindfulness regularly and am eating healthy. I’m still in supervised contact with my daughter as there is no other way around it currently, but it will change soon.
My lawyer and I are crafting and compiling all of this stuff to help my case, my lawyer is confident in being able to prove my ex’s lies for the judge.
My daughter is still being raised by my ex who is the day to day caregiver, and this worries me bigtime. If you have read my entire story, you will know why. But really though, my daughter seems to be progressing just fine, in fact the supervised contact center tells me she is advanced for her age, which makes me very proud. My ex has always been a good mother at least when she’s not stressed.My experience with the New Zealand family court is one of extreme bias toward the mother. They have continually ignored my ex’s evidenced issues and focus entirely on me and it’s incredibly and unfair, not only for me, but for my daughter.
If you have gotten this far and read the entire thing, I applaud you. You might be thinking im some sort of crazy. I can promise you im perfectly sane, I have been in love with a deeply disturbed woman who seems to have deep issues with men and it has profoundly effected me, im stronger for it.
Take it with a grain of salt, this is therapeutic for me and somewhat of a vent and it would be great to hear some opinions of these traumatic experiences in my life. It would be great to hear that im not alone from other men.
I’m a kindhearted, gentle, sensitive, compassionate bloke who wears his heart on his sleeve and loves his daughter very much. I apologize if its a bit long winded.Thankyou for your time,
Jay
Woman are collectivly no longer our opposite in polarity, This is a huge problem.
Anonymous
AnonymousYou know MGTOW philosophy is the only solution to gynocentric and crazy feminist attitudes when women and their pet manginas are so desperate they’re willing to anything to bring MGTOW adherents back to the plantation.
Whether it’s shaming, through MGTOW man (who I believe was a feminist false flag operation) or doxxing and trying to get people fired, or finally censoring free speech by hacking websites such as this and/or trying to take them down. Each attempt is an admission of failure…further it’s free advertisement of our philosophy.
It also outlines a universal truth: Women are such attention whores, when you take the attention away…they go crazy.
Every time they do this, for me, it’s a victory. We continue to maintain our MGTOW frame, minimizing their influence and presto…WIN! Continuing to focus on masculine self improvement and peace of mind knowing the snakes aren’t allowed at the dinner table…let alone the house is the right answer.
Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.
Hello all,
I have continued with my dating experiments and got something new for you. I sharing because of caring and the world doesn’t care about you anyway but I do.
This is my true story about “dating” a russian girl. I not just posting it because of MGTOW but I hope that google and other engines index this post for dating russian/eastern european women and can help the millions of cluless dummies (who are not happy with their lives) out there who crawling the internet day by day asking “how can I get a russian bride”, “how to date ukrainian women online” helps. My help is very simple: YOUR BETTER OFF WITHOUT ONE.
Westerners most common dreams about eastern women:
http://claritaslux.com/girls/how-to-chat-talk-to-russian-girls/
“Russian women cook, clean, take care of the kids support you emotionally and will be loyal” – Yeah right.
This little story started at 2015 October when I ran into this russian girl in Paris. This was not a coincidence that I ran into girls, I went there for teh pusseh. I decided I walk the city and go up to random girls start talking with them what can happen.
So after couple of months chatting online she invited me to Russia (actually it was her idea: “I think you should come to Moscow”). I thought western european women who are free are mostly trash anyway this worth a shot I took out a week and fly to Russia but due to my previous dating experiences I didn’t even consider that I could get to the point of having s e x, no matter what I do, how much money I spend, what do I wear so I considered this a once-in-a-lifetime-travel-experience to a country I would never go otherwise. And how right I was…
Day 1:
We took a cab from the airport to Moscow and go around the city at night. She shoved me some places she likes to play with children legos and she wanted to make selfie pic on every second statue. She was pulling me into stores, showing me she likes this and that book, art, painting.
Day 2:
I was going with her to some running competition with her girlfriends. It was a day for her not for me.
Day 3:
I took the girl out to dinner at Moscows luxurious restaurants, shopping malls, she was friendly and showed me around the city. She did not appriciate luxury places and stores. For her eating at an amerikan style fastfood joint made no difference with eating in the most fancy restaurant in town.
There is little to see in Moscow (unless you are in love with architecture and museums), collapsing rotted ghetto flats from the Stalin era, buses and trams which fall apart from the rust. Beggers and trash on the streets and loads of weird and poor people. Every fifth man looks like some ex-con who would put the knife into you for a bottle of alcohol. I see no logical reason why a right minded westerner would ever consider moving to Russia but anyway this story is not about the country it is about the Russian Women.
This girl was living in 1 room with her girlfriend (she claims not to be a lesbian). She didnt want to show me her apartment first but did after asking her couple of times. The place was terrible, stinking flat building from the communist era with uncovered rusty pipes wires thrown around and dirt covering everything. Outside the stairway every bad smell you can imagine from s~~~/pee/puke/catp~~~ and grafitis over the walls. The money she earned from her job blown it away instead of saving anything.
Day 4:
We were about to go to Saint Petersburg(SP) this day but she was not sure about that she wants to go, I took over and told her I go with or without her. Then she said she needs the money to buy some shoes and don’t have money for a train ticket (lie), ok I as gentlemen paid for both the tickets and the hotel there (tbh reason was to spend the night alone in 1 room finally). I tried to make her watch some movie and talk on that crappy train but she wanted to go to sleep and was being on her phone chatting and taking selfie pictures all the time.
I was watching what does she do on her phone, she was clicking around like some crazy going out from fb to vk to chats then posting pics then listening music and occasionally making some calls. Women = best random generator ever is.
We get to the apartment in SP and went out to some restaurants and boat tour to the city, I made her cuddling to me. She always asked: “tell me some good story” when i told her the stupidest story ever like: “when i was kid the security guards were searching us in the supermarket or my two old neighboors were 2 ugly lesbian girls” were winning for her. If I tried to tell her a story with real meaning and moral she showed uninterest and sadface 🙁
Ok I always talked some blahf~~~ingblahblah watched her reactions what does she likes to hear to feed her fuzzball brain like “do u like that building? take a look at that glass elevator, isnt that cool?” – sometimes it was cool and she was happy if she didnt like it she just lost interest (at least didnt get mad). I moved a bit forward holding hands, cuddling, givin kisses to her cheeks sometimes. When we get to the night she told me right away she wants to sleep alone, then I asked her if its ok if I sleep next to her since theres only 1 bed, it was ok my planof the week is failed.
Day 5:
Next day we are back to Moscow with train where I was hoping to watch some movie together and talk because the ride is 8 hours but guess what? She was on her phone chatting to her girlfriends, posting pictures, lost interest in the movie in 30 mins then she wanted to sleep. After waking up her phone was low on power so she even made her way out to the end of the train to the toilet with the only plug and pretty much staid there till the end of the ride. Then she made some program to go skateboarding then help her shopping groceries, of course I paid all carried all. She also introduced me to some of her girlfriends who were asking stupid questions like how do u like it here, do u like russian people blahf~~~ing blahblah they were just wierdos too.
Day 6:
We got to my last day where I meet up her around noon, we went to her ghetto flat to eat the food she made me (tasted like s~~~ I still forced it down and said it was g8) then we went to skateboarding at the afternoon in wind and rain where I got cold. She then writes at night that she is in very good mood, her roommate is out, I can spend the night at her if I want and want to go eat and party. I was happy, thought that we might have a chance for night together. I walked with her to her place. It took more than an hour for her to dress up and we missed the restaurant.
Finally we started to leave for the club, shes typing on her phone while walking. I ask what are u doing? She says I looking for new apartment. Now? – I asked. She asked what type of parties do I like (while previously she has already choose 2 good places) then select 1 from those too. I told her go to the place she wanted. 2 minutes later guess what happens? She says: I want to go home and sleep alone.
Ok go home then. I had to be up for 3am, wait from about 21:00 -> 3:00AM so she can tell me that she dont want to party.
I was literally licking ass for her to the bone for a week for this big nothing (we didn’t even get to french kiss).
Day 7:
She writes me at the morning that do I need her help to get to the airport? Ok it was obvious she doesn’t want to see me again then she come to meet me one more time and said that she was mad at me because of my clothes what I was wearing looked bad and my hair looked bad. I told her what’s matter is not the look but what you have inside – yah was talking to a wall. Her ideal is probably some rapper, skateboarder fashion maniac who hangs out with her all day listening music.
The other moral of the story is that yes it’s true that Russian women are tougher and not necessarily caring about money but they changing their mind just as often, use you and being utterly useless (not producing much in value) just like other women around the world.
I think we should partially thank Zuckeberg and other money hungry son of a bitches who made trillions on all the smartphones and phone apps to made pure brain-washed s~~~ out of the women globally but I not going to chicken and egg this thing. There are the smartphones and females addicted to it more than to men or maybe even their children and it is a “legal drog to sell”.
I never had a girlfriend but now I got a look into what it would be like to have one. The amount of s~~~ I had to do to keep her happy (not to even to f~~~) was INSANE, just f~~~ing INSANE. Acting like a punk and skateboarding with her in parks, going on dangerous rooftops, ghetto hostels, pubs and stores, her sport event, carrying heavy baggage of food to the other end of the city, holding doors, umbrellas, taking her coat and lastly feeding her fuzzball brain with quotes and things she wanted to hear abso f~~~ing lutely drained off all my energies. The spent money I didn’t even mention on my list and all this for that she can get angry of me on my last night because she didn’t like my clothes (which supposed to be my party night) and telling me on next morning that she doesn’t want to see me.
For those who say MGTOW is a cowardice I would say living with todays women is insanity. How is this leads to happyness that I do things I don’t like to do for 90% of the time spent together, this is only leading to happiness for her being entertained.
I boarded my flight back to Europe and after my landing I booked a russian girl in the local brothel then f~~~ed the s~~~ out of her. I spent the price of 6 hours worht of f~~~ing on visiting missie who wouldn’t even kiss me on my cheeks and loved my cellphone charger what I gave her more than she would ever love me if we would be together.
As she would say: “what a good story it was”.
Topic: The Next 100 Years
The great Jan.Sobieski MGTOW extraordinaire just posted a great topic about the “Future of Work” which got me thinking about pumped about the future in general. As stated in my follow up post I follow a website called Futuretimeline.net. which has various preditions for humanity broken down by centuries over the next million years. Each prediction is based upon research and references to that within the scientific community.
I wanted to share the entire timeline: http://www.futuretimeline.net/index.htm#timeline
This is what the next 100 years will look like according to the website. What do you guys think? Did they hit the nail on the head or are way off? I’ll just post the next 10 years in lieu of space here.
2010 — Haiti is struck by a devastating earthquake | The longest solar eclipse of the 3rd millennium occurs | Apple debuts the iPad | The Constellation Program is essentially cancelled | The worst marine environmental disaster in US history | Scientists create synthetic life | One-fifth of Pakistan is flooded | Solar power is plunging in cost | Augmented Reality is entering the mainstream | Macular degeneration is curable | The first demonstration of solar-sail technology | Scientists trap antimatter | Speech-to-speech translation is common in mobile phones | Robotic manipulation of non-rigid objects
2011-2014 — British forces withdraw from Afghanistan
2011 — Japan is devastated by a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and tsunami | The death of Osama bin Laden | Worsening economic crisis in Greece | The world’s first synthetic organ transplant | South Sudan becomes an independent nation | The Space Shuttle fleet is retired | Global population reaches 7bn | USB 3.0 is widely available | 22 nanometre chips enter mass production | Consumer-level robotics are booming | World’s first commercial spaceport | China’s Three Gorges Dam is fully operational
2012 — The Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II | Euro 2012 is held in Poland and Ukraine | London hosts the Olympic Games | Mars Science Laboratory explores the Red Planet | Voyager I crosses the heliopause | Windows 8 is released | Quad-core smartphones and tablets | Nintendo launches the Wii U | The Abraj Al-Bait Towers are completed in Mecca | The Mayan calendar reaches the end of its current cycle
2013 — North Korea conducts its third nuclear test | A meteor explodes over the Russian city of Chelyabinsk | The first creation of human embryonic stem cells by cloning | The NSA documents are leaked | Birth of a royal baby | China overtakes the USA in scientific research | The Lunar Atmosphere and Dust Environment Explorer (LADEE) is launched by NASA | The first gene therapy in the Western world | Highly flexible touch sensors are appearing in a range of gadgets | Launch of the PS4 and Xbox One | Uruguay becomes the first nation to allow full legalisation of cannabis | China’s first unmanned Moon landing | The Gaia mission is launched
2014 — Latvia joins the eurozone | The first gay marriages are held in England and Wales | Google Glass is launched to the public | Brazil hosts the FIFA World Cup | The 100th anniversary of World War I | 14 nanometre chips are released | Scotland votes “no” to independence | The MAVEN probe arrives at Mars | India’s first Mars mission | The global average Internet connection is broadband | A comet passes extremely close to Mars | Increased automation in retail environments | The IPCC releases its Fifth Assessment Report | The new World Trade Center is opened | The European Single Supervisory Mechanism (SSM) is operational | The Rosetta probe deploys its lander on comet 67P | The first test flight of NASA’s Orion spacecraft | Laser guns are in naval use | Smart watches are the latest must-have gadget | NATO ends combat operations in Afghanistan
2015-2019 — Global economic recovery remains slow | Personal genome sequencing enters the mainstream | Five-year survival rates for thyroid cancer are nearing 100% | Virtual reality makes a comeback
2015 — Lithuania joins the Eurozone | The Eurasian Union is formed | Expo 2015 is held in Milan, Italy | The Large Hadron Collider reaches its maximum operating power | The world’s first fully sustainable, zero-carbon, zero-waste city | The first self-regulating artificial heart | A new generation of hi-tech supercarriers | Queen Elizabeth II is the longest reigning monarch in British history | Personal biometric scanners for online banking | Windows 10 is released by Microsoft | The Dawn probe arrives at Ceres | The New Horizons probe arrives at Pluto | Electric car ownership reaches 1 million worldwide | Trucks with emergency braking systems are mandatory in Europe | The deadline for the Millennium Development Goals
2016-2060 — At some point during this period, the United States is struck by the most devastating earthquake in its history
2016-2037 — At some point during this period, a major earthquake hits California
2016-2020 — China builds the longest undersea tunnel in the world
2016 — Completion of the Panama Canal expansion project | Microchipping of all dogs in England | Euro 2016 is held in France | Rio de Janeiro hosts the Olympic Games | Supercomputers reach 100 petaflops | The Juno probe arrives at Jupiter | The world’s largest single-aperture telescope is completed in China | The mining industry is highly automated | Agricultural robots are increasingly common on farms | High-definition CCTV cameras are ubiquitous | OLED displays are in widespread use | Three-person babies | New drug delivery methods for brain-related conditions | Completion of the i5K project | China completes the largest environmental cleanup in its history | The first test launch of the Falcon Heavy | Polymer banknotes are introduced by the Bank of England | United States Presidential Election
2017-2025 — Worsening crisis in Yemen
2017 — China establishes the largest megacity in the world | The remaining JFK files are released | Total solar eclipse in the US | China launches an unmanned sample return mission to the Moon | The first test flight of NASA’s Space Launch System | The first manned flight of the Dream Chaser | Launch of the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) | The Cheops satellite is deployed to study exoplanets | Sales of electric and hybrid trucks reach 100,000 annually | 10 nanometre chips enter mass production | Web-connected video devices exceed the global population | Electronic paper is seeing widespread use | Tooth regeneration is transforming dental care | The first human head transplant | Wireless, implantable devices that monitor a range of health conditions in real time | The world’s first HIV vaccine is commercially available | A new treatment for prostate cancer | BioCassava Plus receives regulatory approval | The world’s largest mud volcano stops erupting
2018-2048 — Uganda is an oil-producing nation
2018 — A missile defence shield is deployed in Europe | The first private supersonic jet | The African Central Bank is established | East Africa’s largest ever infrastructure project | South Korean city Pyeongchang hosts Winter Olympics | Russia hosts the FIFA World Cup | InSight touches down on Mars | The James Webb Space Telescope is launched | Japan lunar rover mission | The Japanese Hayabusa-2 probe arrives at 1999 JU3 | Completion of the 100,000 Genomes Project | Universal flu vaccine | Polio has been eradicated | A drug to prevent obesity | Crossrail opens in London | The Transbay Transit Center is completed in San Francisco | Many complex surgeries are performed by robots | The NHS begins high-energy proton therapy in England | Enterprise-grade SSDs reach 128TB of capacity | Consumer devices with 100 Gbit/s transfer speeds | Portable, long-range 3D scanning | Scientists drill into Earth’s mantle | The first Hyperloop track is open to the public
2019-2025 — The European Spallation Source (ESS) becomes operational
2019-2024 — 3D printing becomes a mainstream consumer technology
2019 — China’s first high-tech stealth fighter enters service | A new generation of U.S. tanks | British troops leave Germany | The ExoMars rover touches down on Mars | The New Horizons probe arrives at Kuiper Belt Object 2014 MU69 | The first mission to a gas giant using solar sail propulsion | The first prototype Stratobus is launched | Launch of the BIOMASS mission | Europe’s Galileo satellite navigation system is fully operational | Computers break the exaflop barrier | Bionic eyes with high resolution are commercially available | A vaccine to treat melanoma | Connected vehicle technology is being deployed in a number of countries | Automated freight transport | US copyright begins to expire, starting with all works from 1923 | LEDs dominate the lighting industry | Jordan opens its first nuclear power plant | The City Circle Line opens in Copenhagen | The East Side Access subway extension opens in New York | The final collapse of the Larsen B ice shelf
Well it looks like people here like to talk about their experiences in everyday life with women, so I thought that maybe I can bring up a story of one time that I was in Walmart. I was in the bottled water section trying to look for a case of mineral water until this morbidly obese middle age lady that looked like she did not even age well came to me with her carriage alone. She said to me in french(I live in Quebec, Canada) something and I couldn’t understand all the words completely so I said if she can speak English. She then said in English if I can give her some money because she has her kids to feed at home. I then said that I am sorry but I am not working now so I cannot help you. She then rudely just continues on the section with her carriage like I do not even exist. Now for me being unemployed at that time is a whole other thing all together because this woman doesn’t even understand what sort of situation I am in and that I am planning on getting a job eventually, since I have put effort in calling a few places and also doing interviews with some people. The only things that I do not do is to maybe try to find a job as a full time job in itself or that I would even push myself to learn more french at a fast pace with a computer program(fleunz) so that I can have more job opportunities in Quebec. I can see if people here are critical of me though, but I also like to say that I actually have a game plan to get the job that I want so that I can be happy finally. But overall though, what do you guys think of this woman? I was not going to bring this story up before because of my situation, but I do not think that this lady that I encountered is working too, because why would she ask me for money at a Walmart for and then she would basically use her own kids as a way to have me have sympathy for her? So what do you guys think?
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Topic: My Own Mother…Despicable…
This is a bit of a story, so please gents, bare with me, please…And let me know, am I right on the money, or WAY OFF BASE…
My father passed in February 2007…He worked for 30 years in the same open pit coal mine…I cannot speak to the exact number as she as kept all of it so quiet, I have been forced to pick up tiny puzzle pieces, and forced to make a picture not having all of the pieces…I have always been very close to my mother, as my father was an atrocious, abusive, monster…That said…From what I have gathered she gained a pretty hefty sum of money due to my fathers passing…I am guessing in the neighborhood of $350,000 to $500,000…There was nothing left for either my sister nor I, all too her…She wasted money in one mistaken adventure after another, bad investments that I warned her about prior to each loss, giving huge amounts of money to a contractor that screwed her over in an effort to make the house he also left her more valuable…Eventually she finally had the house finished, and was able too sell it for about $220,000…At which point she had moved into the home of a man that my father worked with…He had just lost his wife of 30 some years too cancer…He and his wife in her final year had built their beautiful log home on some 1200 acres in the black hills of Wyoming…My mother moved in just after the home was finished…He and his first wife have 3 children…
This all happened about two years after mt fathers death…Her new husband is as good of a man as I have ever met…We got along immediately…He is 100 x the man my father ever was too me, and I love the man as my own father at this point…I should note at this point he is suffering from Severe Parkinson’s disease…I have helped him in ways he never thought possible through cannabis and stem cell treatment….The cannabis within seconds of smoking nearly nullifies his shaking and the results are simply AMAZING…enough on that though…
After learning of what a windfall she receives from the death of a spouse, and now being nearly broke, she is terrified that if her current husband dies what will happen to her…You see his 3 children are to split all his land, his current home, his 4 bedroom home that he still owns while he lived in town and before he retired, and all his retirement savings…Leaving her totally out of his will, simply because she was not even in the picture when the will was written, and he has made it abundantly clear to his fear filled children, she is not getting anything, they are still to split everything between the three of them…Now all that being said, she has spent the last 4 years starting little dramatic fights, and doing her very best to spite each of his children each time they come to visit…Just this last saturday, she caused the largest fight yet, throwing an ENORMOUS dramatic crying and yelling event because she had to clean up after the grandchildren’s mess, and had some extra dishes in her sink, after spending the entire day in town getting her hair done and doing some personal shopping…She then calls me and starts screaming and crying about all of this unfairness with the mess, and the dishes, and how she told off the son and daughter so horribly bad, that they took their kids, and left the ranch late sat evening….And in this call totally expecting me to side with her, and too her surprise I did not, I said she was making a MOUNTAIN out of a mole hill, being dramatic, and then asked her what “special” plans she had that she couldn’t do a few extra chores that would not amount o more than an hour of her time for her and her husbands house guests, especially since they are family…she got made at me and hung up the phone…I just got a call now three days later, getting a tongue lashing from her new husband for not being more defending to her needs….
Now I see it so freaking clear, the three kids see it, everyone sees it now…She is dividing the family so badly, I believe in attempt to get him to eventually change his will to include her, if not, TOTALLY exclude all of his children…Now does this sound totally off base or am I onto her devious plan to ensure her devious attempt at gaining yet another HUGE financial windfall????
Please chime in…Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Well, as this is an introductory sub-forum, I figure it only polite to post here first. During the waiting period for account activation, I already filled a large portion of this sort of information in on my profile so I’ll be mostly just cherry picking from there.
Before that though; Hi, name’s Misha. Or Mike, or Michael, or Mikey or any of the alterations to my name people use to make it more convenient to the English language.
First and foremost, allow me to state quite plainly that I am a disabled American Marine Corps veteran (OIF/OEF/9-11) with severe PTSD (both service connected, as well as pre-service connected – and technically some post-service connected as well, but that will be touched upon further in this self description). I served honorably from 2000 until 2004, wished to continue my service, but was unable to do so due to injuries sustained while on active duty. Since my discharge from active service, I have had no assistance from the V.A., and virtually no assistance from the government. My service records have been altered, as has my discharge status. Essentially, I have been railroaded. Used as a tool, and then discarded. A large factor in my deciding to join MGTOW was viewing the “Feminists Will Never Understand” VEVO video, obviously in the videos section. While I understand that the video is from a legitimate recording artist and not necessarily member of MGTOW itself, I can at least appreciate people who take the time out of there lives to acknowledge me. The video felt like my life, to the letter. From the isolation, to the temporary (recurring) homelessness, to the failure to adequately reintegrate myself into “normal” society…to the acknowledgement that a US veteran commits suicide on average once every two minutes. All things I’ve experience personally. It’s been a very long time since something non-physical (as in, something I can physically touch in my own life) has brought me to tears, but that video did. Again, I know it was from a legitimate recording artist, and not necessarily a man “of” MGTOW, I’d still never heard it before, so finding it here, while I browsed through the videos simply dabbling….I can still appreciate people who appreciate me.
In truth, I cannot say that I am fully subscribed to the MGTOW philosophy as a whole, but I assume that’s likely due to my stubborn faith in humanity. I for some reason truly believe that time will change that, and I’ll let you all draw your own conclusions as to which direction that change will be as I tell you all my story.
Lets begin.
Despite all of my veterans related issues, I still have managed to become engaged (though never married) three times, with three drastically different women, since my release from military service. All were traumatic, though the last two hurt for very different reasons than the first. My first fiance was murdered, and while obviously traumatic I understand that this has no bearing this site interests, so I’ll not delve into the matter further. However, the second and third both left for very different reasons.
The second, or first relevant to the sites interests if you will, left on account of lies – her lies. After dating for nearly a year and a half, and almost another six months of engagement (we had no official wedding day, merely a commitment, or so I thought) I find myself dumped, for a friend, because “she can’t take the lies.” I already knew that the friend in question was a womanizer, so I easily knew that the relationship wouldn’t last. True to my thoughts, she came crawling back in less than two weeks. While everyone was telling me to just be done with her, including myself, I decided to try to make things work, but demanded an explanation about what these proposed “lies” were. I was met with the following response: “Do you even know my name?” She had lied about everything. Name, age, birthday, fathers name, fathers job…literally everything. Less than a week into this attempted rekindled relationship, she leaves me again stating that “Things just aren’t the same”. Well, of course they aren’t. It’s been nearly two years, and I just discovered that I know absolutely nothing about you. “But everything I ever said I felt about you was real!”, yet nothing you ever told me was the truth, so how can I believe you? But, I digress.
Between this engagement and the next, I can’t help but include another relationship as well, albeit just a dating scenario. This being one of the most bizarre female financial relationship issues I have personally ever seen (which is odd, considering it happened in my own life, and I can’t even find something online that comes close – in my opinion). Wherein, I had a fairly stable and lucrative career at the time, fell into a dating relationship with a woman who already had two kids and no father figure to be heard of, still, I tried. As per the ‘norm’, I found myself supporting myself, the woman, and both her kids. Putting food into two fridges, paying two sets of utility bills, and at least half of the time making two different rental bills. Obviously all the while providing additional financial services to the household – presents, gifts, surprises and the like. And yet, I notice that she’s growing more and more distant. She’s not going out, so I don’t suspect that she’s cheating or anything. But, clearly she’s more distant. She’s playing online PC games geared towards children (probably geared around 11-15 year olds, though I don’t remember the name of the game). This doesn’t particularly bother me, as I enjoy video games far more than I probably should myself anyway. Yet, I keep feeling that there’s a problem. About a month and a half into this PC gaming…thing, she informs me that she’s leaving me, even though she clearly knows and understands that in doing so she wont be able to support the roof over her head. Why, you may ask? Well, that’s a question I had too. Turns out, it wasn’t the game, but another player in it. Some other player, I’m assuming to be a male, had been speaking to her, buying her things in the game with real money. After some digging (including her inviting me to play the game with her), I discover that she left me because some other man (I assume) was buying her cosmetic items (beauty items… cute outfits, wings, little fake pets, and the like)…in a video game. That didn’t last long, obviously, as it’s rather difficult to continue to play a video game, when you have no internet….or power for that matter, as you can’t afford to pay your utilities. Even moreso, when you lose the roof over your head, because you can’t afford your rent. Obviously she tried to get me back, and I’ll admit I did consider it, for her children at the very least – I didn’t, and don’t, believe that children should be forced to suffer for the stupidity of there parents – but the damage had already been done.
Moving on, my third engagement. My third, and currently final attempt at marriage was with a very shy, yet very physically needy woman. Her family loved me, even her feminist mother seemed to enjoy me being with her daughter. While I’ll admit, for the most part genuine shyness is something of a turn on for me (usually), I felt it only right to work on her self-confidence. Shy is cute, but needy isn’t. After several months helping to build her up, she starts telling me about some of the breakthroughs that she’s had on her own. One in particular was important to her; contacting her first crush from way back in elementary school and telling him about her former crush. I wasn’t bothered by this, heck, I was actually proud of her. I didn’t see a threat, as the guy was living in another country, and she couldn’t go more than a few days without having me over. Yet, right as rain, less than a month after that I get a call, “I don’t love you, and I don’t know if I ever have.” Turns out I was just a tool. A charismatic tool, and a partial financial means to an end.I admit, this “introduction” might be a bit more longwinded than some, but I found it only fitting to be detailed. In addition to including very similar information on my profile while I waited, I had plenty of time to read the introductions of others. Most of the best were verbose.
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