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    I don’t know what the alt-right is, but apparently it means anyone who isn’t a regressive liberal.

    Now that I have time to post somewhat leisurely. I can finally say more.

    So, how exactly does white supremacist version of alt-right benefit me?

    Allow me to explain what is happening, and what WILL happen.

    The “alt-right” is a planned controlled destruction technique by professional shill agencies and political organizations. They are trying to put everyone who disagrees with the regressive left into a nice pretty package. They want to make an amorphous blob of dissenters into giving themselves an identity under the “alt-right” title.

    Then they are going to use the assholes of the internet who don’t associate with anyone of the alt-right to scare moralf~~s who were foolish enough to consider themselves “alt-right” and try to scare them away from being dissenters.

    This happened already once recently with Gamergate. It is their plan again. There are those of us who are smart enough to not use alt-right as a way to describe us and not care about the left’s shame tactics and indeed embrace them.

    Because embracing their insults in front of them scares the s~~~ out of them because they have no more ammo against you. You will no longer need to dodge their bullets, because their power over you never existed to begin with.

    #305751

    In reply to: So what now?

    Rhino
    Rhino
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    Hi 4thGEN and welcome to the forums. It seems you want people to tell you what to do, but there is no step by step bullet point guide book that you need to do now. The good thing about this site is we are here to guide you and teach you but you have to be the one to decide what is right for you because at the end of the day you are the only one that is going to live your life. With that said I understand your confusion we have all been where you are right now.

    The first thing I would recommend you do is read up and watch this video on Briffault’s Law. Once you watch this you will understand the nature of women and there was nothing wrong that you did. You could have given her a golden palace with male servants to do what ever she wanted with along with all the money in the world and it would never have been enough. That is the first thing you should do is stop blaming yourself you are not at fault.

    Second thing I would recommend is never ever get back together with her ever again. One chance per person per life time and there is a reason for that. She is right now riding the c~~~ carousel trying to find someone who she can leech off of because of her hypergamy it is in her nature all women are like that (AWALT). As soon as she finds someone with higher value to her than you that is interested in her and is willing to be her provider you are done and this has already most likely happend. Nothing you can do about this it is common do not beat yourself up about this. You don’t owe her a house, or a kid, nothing. The only thing that she has to offer you is her vagina, and if you think sex is love think again. Women do not love the same way guys do it is not in their nature. They only love what you can do for them at that moment and men are brainwashed into thinking females are more loving because they are emotional on a higher level as compared to men. But that is not the case men are capable of being just as emotional when they want to be and women have the ability to turn off emotions like a light switch. That is why she was able to leave you and not think twice about what she was doing to you because she turned her emotions off for you and moved on. This is where the red pill rage comes in because most guys who are sane are unable to do that and we can’t understand how they can just not love us anymore. Once you learn this is their nature the rage will subside and you will be at peace knowing you woke up finally to what really happens behind the hamster wheel brain of theirs.

    Do not hate women, they will always be this way and will never change as this has been going on for thousands of years the only difference is we live in the information and technology age and are able to finally figure out all their secrets. If you need sex buy a fleshlight, watch porn or get an escort. Do stuff that you always wanted to do but never could because she would never let you in the past. You are off the plantation, you are no longer a slave and are free to do whatever you want. If you have to have a relationship with a new woman never invite her to your house always go to hers for the sex and never ever cohabitate with a woman period. Never pay rent bill for them if you do it could be considered support that the courts could use against you even if you don’t live with each other. Don’t tell them your secrets, they use that against you to manipulate you. You probably don’t have many friends now because that was her plan to isolate you and make sure you would be a beta orbiter to provide for her in case her monkey branching from one guy to the next didn’t work out. Her plan is to keep you in this state you are currently in so she can monkey branch back to you. Eventually she will try to manipulate her way back into your life, you need to block her phone number, get her off all your social media if you can and just live your life. My advice is get off all social media if you can as well it will be better for your well being as social media is a construct of gynocentric ideology.

    There are great people here to assist you in whatever you want to do just ask if you are not sure read the forums here and also there are great books that you can read that are listed in the book section of this website like The Manipulated Man for example good book to read. Remember you are not at fault, do not blame yourself blame her for her behavior don’t give her the pussy pass just because she is female. She is a human being and she wronged you on so many levels one day you will open your eyes and see all the bad stuff she did to you that society taught you was ok for her to do. One day her looks will be gone and she will hit the wall and look ugly I know it is tempting to go back to her but don’t do it. Hope that helps remember we are here for you.

    Computer Programmer Profile

    If you go to this link, you will see that the amount of people that work as a computer programmer is forecasted to decrease by 8% from 2014 to 2024.

    Bookkeeping, Accounting and Auditing clerk Profile

    If you go to this link, you will see that this group of jobs is also forecasted to be in a 8% decline from 2014 to 2024.

    Now the question is, why are these jobs that require skill and math declining in job populations in the next few years. The answer is because these jobs are becoming outsourced overseas or they can be outsourced overseas. You see, when I did an accounting course, they were saying something about standardizing a lot of things about accounting internationally and they even have a federation for it. Also, if you even read in the outlook section of the computer programmer profile, it even says that computer programming jobs are being outsourced.

    So overall, do not listen to people on youtube like Aaron Clarey or computer programming veterans that post here like Stealthy. Everything is going to be fine now, but I can just see these jobs cannibalizing themselves in like 15-20 years from now. I say that you should only go into computer programming if you are really gifted or if you are even planning on making your own computer programming empire like I am planning on doing since you cannot really outsource ideas. As for accounting, well all I kept on hearing is how Canada has like a 3-4% unemployment rate for bookkeepers and that it is a very stable job right now so let’s see how they will do even when they are declining in jobs in the U.S while the population is increasing. There was a time also when you can become a bookkeeper with just a high school diploma, but now you need an associate’s diploma to stay competitive. I can just see in the future you might even start needing an accounting degree.

    I hope I am a help to some people in giving some insight in the future so that you can better prepare yourself in the future as a whole. My final word of advice is to try to do jobs that you cannot outsource and maybe that advice can help you know what you should do in the future.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    Hillary Campaign accused of wrongly charging donors multiple times.

    It seems that the Hillary Campaign has been accused of using credit card information by small time donors to repeating charge for more donations, when these donations were suppose to be a one time donations.

    This is thefts are of less than a hundred dollars per charge. But, it is still stealing and from people whom likely do not have the money to afford such theft.

    You can read about accusation here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-16/allegations-fraud-surface-over-one-time-donations-hillary-occur-repeatedly

    Unlike Wikileaks, this theft is being done in real time. And unlike her health, this is being willingly done. If this is true. These thefts are inexcusable. This scandal could be the final nail in the coffin for the Hillary campaign.

    Though, the question is why?

    It is reported that Hillary is pulling down tens of millions of dollars at each of her large dinner parties with the super rich.

    These small thefts by donors is pocket change compared to that. Why? There are only two reason for this. Neither are good for the Hillary campaign.

    Either someone is getting their jollies from stealing from the poor.

    Or, the Hillary campaign is burning through so much money, and so fast, they are almost broke.

    It is possible the Hillary campaign is almost broke. The giant airplane she bought, the customized vehicles, the medical equipment, the around the clock staff, cost money. And while tax money is used for some of these expenses. A lot of it is from her own campaign. If one starts making a list it gets real expensive very quickly.

    If this is proven true, when the Trump campaign pick up on this. And they likely will. They will tear into this scandal. This scandal is the embodiment of stealing from the poor. And by exposing this scandal, this will also driving a wedge between the poor and the Hillary campaign. The Hillary campaign needs to the poor for their votes.

    While Wikileaks is good. This type of scandal is politically tangible with American people that have been harm within the last few days to weeks. Instead of those harmed years ago.

    #304525

    In reply to: Women and Alcohol


    Anonymous

    I soberd up,but still got married a third time.

    Drinking a women are two totally different follies, however, one does push you to the other and I don’t have to tell you which one does the pushing!

    The last a final f~~~tard I was with tried to get me back into drinking as she started to sauce it up to drown out some hidden issues.

    If I was mentally ill enough to stay with her I know the outcome would have been two people drinking and NOT one person lifting another person to a higher plane!

    Eqlife
    eqlife
    Spectator

    You hear that ladies, your market value has gone into free fall! Feminism and all they wanted is being given to them in spades!

    Feminism’s 50 year cartoon show is its final chapter.

    I’d like to add that what they did was insert sperm into an embryo. This is not artificial womb, rather, inserting sperm into an embryo already created by male/female sperm and egg.

    that’s not what I read:

    Scientists make embryos from non-egg cells

    The only way to muddy the waters of child “ownership” is for a man to implant a woman’s egg into a donor woman (under contract), removing her from claiming legal ownership of the “property” she was “contracted” to carry.

    Now the man can claim exclusive ownership of the egg giving more to stand on when a surrogate is not the owner of either the sperm or the egg, both are his.

    From the first article:

    “Eggs can be tricked into developing into an embryo without fertilisation, but the embryos, called parthenogenotes, die after a few days.

    Scientists at Bath have developed a method of injecting mouse parthenogenotes with sperm so they can go on in many cases to become healthy pups.”

    We need artificial eggs. Until then, no go.


    Anonymous

    You hear that ladies, your market value has gone into free fall! Feminism and all they wanted is being given to them in spades!

    Feminism’s 50 year cartoon show is its final chapter.

    I’d like to add that what they did was insert sperm into an embryo. This is not artificial womb, rather, inserting sperm into an embryo already created by male/female sperm and egg.

    that’s not what I read:

    Scientists make embryos from non-egg cells

    The only way to muddy the waters of child “ownership” is for a man to implant a woman’s egg into a donor woman (under contract), removing her from claiming legal ownership of the “property” she was “contracted” to carry.

    Now the man can claim exclusive ownership of the egg giving more to stand on when a surrogate is not the owner of either the sperm or the egg, both are his.

    #303327

    A few points I’d like to make.

    This is because when you ride a motorcycle, you’re FORCED to be aware of your surroundings every second you’re driving.

    No you’re not forced to. You’d think so, but you’d also think people operating a 2000 lb death machine (a car) would be “forced” to be more aware and they aren’t. They text and drive. I will say, that bikers do tend to be more aware of their surroundings, but so are plenty of drivers.

    From what I’ve seen, in motorcycle vlogs on Youtube especially, most motorcyclists are some of the safest drivers ever.

    True, like I said, they can be very aware of surroundings, but there are also dumb f~~~s that rip wheelies at 200 mph on the freeway with cargo shorts and flip flops. There are plenty of morons on bikes.

    I’ve been thinking about getting my motorcycle license and taking classes in a few months, but I don’t think I’ll ever tell my family I did for the main reason they’ll bring up all the fake bulls~~~ on why “motorcycles are dangerous.”

    I won’t tell you not to, I have mine and love doing it. But you should ask yourself some questions like are you a genuinely responsible person? Are you prone to peer pressure and doing stupid s~~~ when pushed to it? Nutnfancy did a great video on the subject will link below.

    That being said, motorcycles are dangerous. Driving cars is dangerous. Riding in an airplane is dangerous. Cutting your food with a knife is dangerous. But if you go up to someone and tell them you don’t use knives to cut food, don’t ride in cars and don’t fly because it’s dangerous they will look at you like a lunatic. But when it comes to motorcycles, they all freak out. Everything’s dangerous, and there’s this stigma, especially in the US that bikes are just a toy, a hobby, a novelty. Meanwhile, the rest of the f~~~ing world uses them every day just fine and it’s normal.

    To me, I don’t like living in a world where everything has to have a safety label on it. Where we all walk on eggshells and be PC. F~~~ that s~~~. Get a bike, but think about it. Keep in mind, women don’t want to see you happy. But if you get a bike, do it because YOU WANT IT, not because YOUR FAMILY DOESN’T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT. Do it for the right reasons. +1 for the topic bro.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnGkFamPcBU

    /forums/topic/finally-bought-a-motorcycle/

    Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

    #302888
    Hammerhead
    Hammerhead
    Participant

    Prior post (for background) at: /forums/topic/i-love-slutty-women/#post-292902

    Ah, yes, I do have to thank feminism for letting women release their inner slut, even infecting the older ones.

    When I was younger, women wouldn’t jump into bed with you without months of dating, spending a ton of money on her, etc. Now? I’ve managed to pique the interest of a much younger and very attractive woman (I’m nearly 60, she’s early 40’s post-wall but looks upper 20’s), teased her and wouldn’t tell her my age, took her out a couple times. When I didn’t make any physical approaches she quickly got very flirtatious, touching me, dropping sexy innuendoes, “accidental” boob-brushes on my arm, her arm around me when we walk, big hug with boob-press and lingering kiss on the cheek when we parted, etc. LOTS of talk, but I didn’t try to kiss her or grope her, and she even checked to be sure that the hug and kiss didn’t make me uncomfortable since we had just started going out – – explaining that she “really just wanted to hug and kiss me.”

    Third date is coming up, and it’s beyond obvious that she’s sticking with the women’s hive-mind modern standard practice of “third date = sex.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7C72rO7qwQ She’s going to drag me into her apartment, since I’ve intrigued her and teased her into a wet-panty frenzy. Of course, I’m going to continue the slow-burn tease then, too, until she begs me to bang her brains out. When it finally happens, she’ll orgasm like an atomic bomb. Been there, done it before with other women.
    Total expenditure (mostly for things that I was going to do anyway)? Less than $100, and she’ll be at least six months to a year of steady sex with little expense before she starts the “where is this going?”/”I want to be exclusive” crap, and if she doesn’t stop, then I’ll transition her out or hit her with the “Let’s Just Be Friends” grenade.
    The only good thing accomplished by women’s liberation is their willingness to hit the sheets with a minimum of expense and virtually no commitment. Let that inner slut have her way, ladies!

    Update:
    As I expected, she went off like a nuclear blast, multiple times. I’ve taken her out a couple times since, and been to her apartment – – yep, the Fifty Shades of Grey trilogy sits proudly on the bookshelf. She likes her hair pulled, hands held down, her ass slapped, boobs crushed and nipples pinched, her face pushed into the pillows while she’s being pounded down into the bed from behind. I’ve been careful to avoid bruising her body, and I won’t do any choking or facial slapping. I’ve already threatened to chain her to the bed and pound her anally (and as I warned: “There is no safe word.”) – – just that suggestion made her orgasm, and hard.

    My eyes have certainly been opened to the true nature of today’s Modern Strong Independent Woman (MSIW) who wants the illusion of danger without the actual risk of any danger. To be thrown on a bed and have their body used like the physical animals they are, not like a too-precious-to-touch Disney princess.

    Einherjar’s comment is exactly on point: they want the dominant man, not the “we’re-all-equal-we-just-have-different-genitals” namby-pamby guy who asks permission before everything he does. When she made some comment that made me sound like a fawning boyfriend, I told her to get on her knees and suck my c~~~. Would a MSIW allow any man to dare say such a thing to her? Needless to mention, she complied instantly. Bitch, you aren’t my equal, don’t pretend to be.

    Hitman’s right: These women are naturally submissive. They want to be controlled, they appreciate a firm hand in or out of bed. They usually don’t want to plan the date, pick the restaurant, choose the movie, to decide what to do in bed. They understand the difference between a firm hand and an abusive one.

    Narwhal makes a good point about their rape fantasies…they want to be so desired that the man behaves like an animal, not worrying about her needs, and just pounds the hell out of her for his own enjoyment. They enjoy that power to entice, excite, please and satisfy their man.

    Miawmiaw: Calm down, they still sometimes like the soft and gentle stuff, too…but other times they want it more animalistic and immediate. Variety is the spice of life, amigo. You can still draw your lines wherever you want…as I said,

      no

    choking or too-rough play for this old guy. It just doesn’t seem safe in the current legal environment.

    It’s funny, because I make a lot more money than her, but she wanted to order dinner (delivered) and to pay for it. Why argue? I accepted it graciously.

    All that said, I’m being careful to document her active desire to participate in somewhat-rough play, and her enthusiastic responses afterwards…just in case…

    #302212
    Miawmiaw
    miawmiaw
    Spectator

    Why are you wasting time explaining? And especially to women?

    This. Double this.

    Just honestly curious – what are you hoping to accomplish here? What are you hoping to get out of it?

    Are you hoping one of them will see the folly of their ways and realize you’re really their soulmate that’s been right under their nose the whole time?

    If so, I’m here to tell you that you’re not Tom Hanks and she’s not Meg Ryan, and that s~~~ only happens in the movies and only then to make the flick marginally bearable to the poor schmucks that get roped into taking their wives/girlfriends/dates into seeing it.

    In the real world, even if she did end up f~~~ing you by some minor miracle, she would ditch you in a heartbeat if the wealthy tall thunderc~~~ guy showed any interest in her whatsoever.

    But I’m getting off on a speculative tangent – no idea what your actual motivations are here.

    I used to be friend zoned , it happened before my final awakening . Now if one approaches i tell her that i should be listening to people who really need help or something like ” i can be your friend if your ideas are softer than you thighs” Lol

    To answer your question, if i see a girl who has introspecting abilities , acknowledges hypergamy and who is well in her head, controlling her instincts rather than the opposite, it can impress me and i can consider her as a potential partner. For the girls in the post ,i had no interest in them and i just experimented telling them the truth because they wasted so much time in illusions hurting themselves for someone who doesn’t care and who is not worth it in the name of “love”. Sadly, They only feel love near “the business suite”. So it was some selfless help, i thought critical thinking and explanation of human nature can help them decrypt their feeling and break free…They didn’t like it …They found some comfort in their position and maybe more comfort in future mistreatment by the so called alphas

    #302130

    In reply to: Self-Critical

    ExpendableYouth
    ExpendableYouth
    Participant

    I beat myself up constantly. There are two forms of this though. It can be a positive “kick you in the ass/light the fire” kind of thinking– which produces results. OR….it is the other form. This form is very dangerous. It produces very negative results and borderline depression.

    I ruminate. I dwell on the past. I’ve had one hell of a past. I currently am renting space in my head for people that do not matter. They are living rent free. I often wonder what if, if only, should I have. I am trapped in my own head many days. It’s a dark and scary situation, but the key is finding the balance which I will describe below.

    On the same token. I beat myself up to finish a job or to make progress on certain situations. I will call myself a loser if I do not meet my self-critical needs. It is MOTIVATION, not a MORALE KILLER. When I knock it out of the park, I reward myself. When I plan and be self-critical on what I am doing, I often feel the reward outweighs the potential risk I am doing to myself.

    I am who I am. I am who I choose to be. I am not what other’s expect of me. I decided a long time ago I will live my own life the way I please. I have cut out a lot of people from my life (immediate family included), and I am finally at peace being alone. I know this is my destiny, situations and PEOPLE just merely pushed me to it quicker. Call me a loner, call me socially awkward, all of that doesn’t matter because I know I have accepted my situation. I have worked so hard all my life JUST TO BE ABLE TO LIVE AND BE ALONE. My house is so quiet, and I would not trade that for the chance to be a f~~~ing utility again. Amen.

    I am the master of my own destiny, and all of you are too. Without others to be critical of you, you HAVE to do it to yourself to EVOLVE and IMPROVE yourself. But I urge many of you to remember, what a few people may think of you– OUT OF 7 BILLION– is pretty unimportant. What you think of YOURSELF will ALWAYS be what matters. You are who YOU have to face everyday. You may not like who “you are”, but you can’t blame yourself fully. You are simply a product of your ENVIRONMENT and the sooner you understand that, the shackles and weight WILL become lifted. We grew up in a f~~~ing war zone, it’s to be expected. You can only control YOURSELF. Once you understand that, expectations will not matter and you will find true happiness inside that many men WISH to achieve.

    MGTOW!

    #302018
    Fermat
    Fermat
    Participant

    This happened to a professor of mine. Put the wife through grad school while he went through school with no debt. Of course she had no plans of actually working afterwards and divorced him once he paid the final bill. Education is REALLY f~~~ing with women now because that’s the stupid new yardstick they measure guys against.

    I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    Before I take the time to write Part 2-7 of my MGTOW story…

    … here is My Red Pill Collection Part 1

    It’s the same text as in “The Favorite Red Pill” column of my profile and some parts of my story will overlap.

    I have a whole industrial size “Clinic Pack” of Red Pills:

    When I die, scientists will probably find a “MGTOW chromosome” in my DNA…

    Mentally and physically surviving the calculative coldness, recklessness, ruthlessness, thoughtlessness, disloyalty, dishonesty, ignorance, impatience, superficiality, stupidity, brutality and selfishness inherent to 85 percent of women.

    But I still do not hate them. They are there and here to stay. Like nuclear waste without a sealed lead container around it: If you get too close, you are bound to die slowly but with excruciating pain and agony…

    Although most women don’t have any creative hobbies or own interests, they do not tolerate, respect or appreciate anything that a man owns or whatever that he has mentally achieved, studied and professionally applied. Even if the things – that these women perceive as stupid and useless – have made that man nice, handsome, tender, caring, happy, wealthy and socially respected in the first place: They want all the tolerance and freedom for themselves, without giving anything in return.

    Most women love their pets and/or horses (!) more than the people around them. The “Queen of the House” sometimes allows pets to do things unimaginable and unbearable by mankind… At the end of the day a man has the choice of moving out or sleeping with a military grade “level 3R-atomic-war-gasmask” on his face.

    For example: Their smelly and noisy pets are allowed to scratch and eat up a man’s house, urinate in his car or his 10000 Euro amplifier-system, and he is expected by his wife to find it amusing and not to get mad about it… While she goes out to get a third cat…

    Everything that goes wrong is always “the man’s fault”. Women never do anything wrong, and if they do get caught, they would never apologize or even try to change their behavior the tiniest bit. In every way, the man always gets the blame and feelings of quilt for everything that happens. And that “blame shame” then gets manipulatively spread out all over the city: Friends, relatives, teachers, state agencies, customers, employers and whoever can cause that man serious trouble.

    If a man consists of 99 percent “positive qualities”, they get completely ignored, devalued, taken for granted and “played down”, even in front of others. And the remaining 1 percent will be used to crucify and demonize him. (Own experience).

    They also have the expectation and feel entitled to take complete control over his entire house or apartment, throwing out all of his dear belongings “for aesthetic reasons” and then requesting all the money from him to turn his place into a castle-like white marble palace.

    Same applies, if his V70 Volvo or his Porsche is too old… And she needs a brand new Audi Q7 to take the kids to school – to show off to her peers “what gold she digged up”… (Own observations in 18 years of customer service and own refusals…)

    Everything is fine – as long as the man never says “no” and delivers all of his money and resources to her. Being a successful company owner makes that man attractive only as long as his money flows… That is: Until that man might have the “slightest economic problem”. Even if that problem is not the man’s fault: Like a 3rd party inflicted accident or an on-the-job contracted illness… She will leave that man in an instance and without any empathy. Men marry in good times expecting to also have somebody at their side when the going gets rough…
    This is an illusion. Again, there are women who stay with their men in hard times, but these loyal women account for only 20 percent of them. (Source: More observations from over 18 years of time within my 4000 customers)

    Women “never making mistakes” and “never apologizing for anything” plus “exploding in rage when politely notified of something unfavorable that they are doing” fills a BIG book.

    Experiencing this behavior since my birth – with a statistically significant number of women “beauty-shop-customers” – is what made me a MGTOW when I turned 9.

    I was a child “going his own way” because the insanity around me was way above the pain threshold. Like putting out real fires created in family fights. Women can be 10 times more violent then men, even physically torturing a baby-boy with the result of a “toddler going MGTOW” and retaliating effectively against a sister that was 8 years older than me and kicked me around like a football at age 3. And getting applause from other lunatic women.

    In my entire youth I was faced with having almost hundreds of women around me attacking and threatening me verbally wherever I went. All of them were convinced by the 3 women of my family that I was a „retarded problem child“. Women were harassing and preaching me whenever and wherever they saw me.

    Repeatedly – over many years – saying things like „If you were my son, I would beat the hell out of you all day“ “I would put you in a shelter” „You belong in jail“ „You will end up in prison“ „You will never get a woman“ „You ugly bastard“ „You are no good for nothing“ „Your mother made a mistake by bringing you into the world“ „We don’t want you around, you are not our standard“ – plus a million more things that I never knew about myself.

    My mother had incited these people against me. I was never in conflict with the law, went to the highest level school-type in Germany, then moving on the „A-Level“ after 13 years of school. Mostly good grades, especially in electronics, chemistry and the English language.

    I successfully fixed TVs, stereos, entire cars, did all repairs and maintenance work on our house. I was the interpreter for our American tenants… Writing letters to state agencies… A young boy, that became the facility manager at age 11, doing all of the work that would have normally been the job of his parents…

    But, because of my mother not being able to „command me around“ like a slave for every little bit of her housework she used her customers as a weapon against me.

    So I was the most „capable child“ but with the reputation of a criminal.

    A s~~~ty life on the edge of madness because of 3 women. And the dozens of stupid and uneducated village „household dragons“ that believed „her s~~~“ and as a result: They showed very me early in life how abusive and violent the standard woman is.

    Only my father was proud of me. But they hated him too, without giving him any validation that he had the responsibility of repairing and maintaining the brake systems of a whole big city’s bus transportation network… And without any faults in 20 years. He taught me to completely restore entire cars and get them through the German TÜV-inspection in just 1 appearance… But the useless bitches hated him too.

    Psychologically, I was a disillusioned, betrayed, beat-up and run-down “male-divorce-victim” before I even became fertile…

    Girls in school were non-existent to me. If I had “brought home” any girlfriend, all of my 3 borderline bitches would have tried to establish another “pussy connection”. The result might have been having a 4th enemy at my back and then the same blame-shaming might have grown viral in my school. School was the only sacred place where the village bitches had no access to. And so I was only the “technical freak” at school but everybody left me alone.

    Women make you live in isolation. They set fire to your life and all you can do is: Build a wall between different parts or stages of your life. Having a peaceful and successful school time at the expense of having almost no friends.

    Same things apply to business matter: Never give a woman access to your customer base, bookkeeping, patents, licences or any other important business relations.

    Never give her any opportunity to ruin your business. As a “public person” and businessman it is therefore best to avoid “private contact” with women completely.

    If they can’t rob you by marriage, then they will try to make money with blackmail or false accusations…

    So, my career took off in another location. Expelled from the „local society“ I became „my own way“ unlearning or not adopting anything that I was supposed to copy from parents or their surrounding social circles. Sometimes having to be around them, I feel like „Whoops, wrong planet“.

    As I started to go to the university to study electronics, I got „hampered“ (smile) by people showering me with work and they also bombarded me with „tip-money“. I didn’t have time to continue my studies nor did I have the opportunity to go on to attain the „master of craftsmanship“ degree.

    Very many people liked what I do and how I do it – without the typical arrogance-psycho-bulls~~~ many „achievers“ have.

    A few years later I took over and bought an existing firm but had no degree… (I had money saved that I did not waste on women)

    As a result, there was a „certified engineer“ on my payroll, enabling me to register as a „certified electronics sales, installation and repair company“ fully complying with the strict German craftsmanship-law and guidelines.

    That craftsmanship-degree was then finally issued to me in 2007, without any further „school time“ because the state-craftsman-agency saw my references and achievements in work, development and leadership.

    I became one of the last companies of my type that was not forced into bankruptcy by the advent of the big sales outlets, market chains or internet shopping. I held my income steady, and astonishingly: „At a very uncommonly high level“

    Having turned my „fun-hobby“ into a profession that enabled me to make more money than most executives have… I was never unhappy or sad.

    Having many people of the „high society“ as satisfied and returning customers I became very detached and uncaring whenever I met a women that would start to pull her shaming tactics and questionable controlling behavior on me. I had grown out of the hell that women had made my childhood to be. So – I will never return to the s~~~ty and joyless life females can bring to a man.

    In my job I could observe that there are almost no „happy marriages“ even in the upper society with plenty of money and resources around. So it must be a general problem of society. As a young boy I was just unfortunate to have a bitchy mother with too many „pussy connections“ with other unhappy women… (With my mother’s beauty shop as the breeding ground for female disapproval)

    In the 70s, beating up children for every little reason was the norm. Standing on the street you could hear from the 3rd floor down, whenever a child was being smashed in the face with bare hands or viciously slammed on the back.

    And it was NEVER „the violent daddy“ hitting the child because almost all of the fathers were at work during daytime. But first you heard the slamming, then the screaming child followed by a yelling woman. Like I say: Through the walls and across many apartments.

    I protected myself from the violence of women by telling them: If you touch me, I’ll go and get some gasoline… And if they didn’t believe me I took a small bottle out of my schoolbag and poured it on the asphalt, setting it on fire and holding my hands above it. Smiling and saying that fire is my best friend. As I knew by then: Women are the real cowards, they would then beat up and yell at some other child „to loosen up“ their internal aggression.

    A few days ago I heard about statistics that mothers beat up sons 2 to 3 times more often than daughters… I have nothing to add to that.

    Today I actually became a man that in the past fearlessly put out small house and car fires with a smile, while other people stand around it and talk bulls~~~ instead of acting…

    In short: Women make boys do things that they normally wouldn’t do. When people ask me why I don’t drink and smoke I just say that I don’t have a woman around that tortures me. No need for a painkiller. Seeing the hateful faces of the “local household bitches” and their daughters when they see my smiling face is something to bathe in.

    In the past, they had even forbidden their daughters to talk to me at the bus stop…

    Buying a safe car was a rational decision for a man with responsibilities. No accident shall put me out of my job… But that the same car – because of it’s price tag – would suddenly make women turn their heads was just one more “turn off” for me.

    Women now criticize me for my 16+ year old cars – instead of realizing that I have a “visible“ 23 year accident-free record. What would normally appeal to a protective mother – having a disaster- and hardship-free “family-father” – is suddenly turned into stupid criticism…

    And seeing me drive like „in the movies“ leads to more stupid criticism. They never think: Why was that man accident free for so long… 36000 „incident free“ rides from and to customers’ houses, in any weather…?

    Yes, the man „good for nothing“ does not open up his bank account for somebody elses’ spoiled and entitled daughter.

    I had enough of the „current type“ of female nature to have lost appetite in them for life.

    It goes as far as not being able to breathe freely if a certain type of woman is around me. Not because of fear but because of allergy against her eyeballing me all the time and commenting every little thing I do with cynical words from her sick psyche…

    Everybody tells me: There is always the possibility of getting to know “a unicorn“ with a brain and a heart.

    But how long is it going to take until „that special woman“ is bullied, misinformed, incited, excluded, sidelined and mobbed around by others till she starts hating me… 2 days or 2 years…?

    So it is just not worth any further effort.

    And this is now reflected from a self-made-man that has moved to a 6-figure income

    WITHOUT ANY HELP OF ANY WOMAN.

    All of this is truly bad advertising for the “present psychological state of health” of women as such. I’m speaking in general, exemptions to the rule do – of course – exist.

    To be honest, I became a Junior-MGTOW at the age of 5, when I started to read the newspaper. Detaching my soul from my inner being is what kept me healthy. no psychosomatic illness ever got me. I became a “lotus flower”: Staying pretty and healthy while all of the put-downs and negative criticism just rinsed off of me.

    Women can’t take a smart man and so a toddler with communication skills of a grown man will make them show their ugly face.

    Good for my inner peace was that the husbands of our “beauty-shop-customers”, mostly bankers, executives and CEOs loved talking to me and would almost always take me for a walk. One even wanted to adopt me at age 4… So I let 23 years of female bitching pass by me as just “to be ignored” and when over: NOT to be refreshed by getting married. Never put a ball and chain on me again: AWALT.

    From getting criticized and blame-shamed 24/7 as a young man I went to getting chased and desired by gold-diggers for the last 20 years.

    A few of them “got through to me” became close “girlfriends” and after they started to think of me as their future property – I saw that they had the same traits and red flags as all other women.

    That life-long “voyage across 2 social layers” gave me a pretty nasty but clear insight on what most women are really like…

    While I stayed the same. Treating everybody equal. Being like “Dale Carnegie” before even having heard about him. I didn’t have to take “self-development courses” just to learn how to treat people with dignity.

    Joining the MGTOW-Movement is now one necessary step ahead, that means health, freedom, wealth and happiness for every man who wants it. Even if it might get lonely sometimes. But being stepped on and guilt-shamed 24/7 is a lot worse – and definitely not on the menu for a self-made man.

    “Solitude Standing by choice” is the high-security-lock on a man’s heart that has the code: “love me as much as I love you” + “show the same interest in me like I have for you” + “treat me like a human being” + “don’t make fun of me, my company, skills and my elaborate professions in front of other people” + “show the same empathy and natural respect that I have for you + hit “ENTER” on the keypad – and the lock will pop open all by itself.

    This is actually knowledge taught in expensive training courses and audio books like “How to marry a millionaire”… Quote: “In order to marry a millionaire, you must first become someone that a millionaire would want as a partner…” Most self-made-men have walked over stony ground and have gone through some hard times to become someone or build something up from scratch. Most of these men will recognize anyone wanting to destroy them from a mile away. That is why all the good men are “currently out of stock”: They rather invest in fast cars and luxury items than get emotionally beaten up and economically exploited every day…

    If a woman says: “Where have all the good men gone” – The answer is easy: “Women-
    Mothers have raised their sons to become failures”. No, they are not failures, they have just reacted and became numb as well as immune to the psychopathic bullying and the “constantly being put down” by their mothers and sisters… And today’s women/girlfriends were also taught their princess-entitlement-behavior towards men from their mothers – and follow that path in their own lives – and in turn get the same results with their current boyfriends or husbands…

    Tell me if I’m wrong… All of these statements are approved and complemented by many of my female friends that achieved a highly professional status and have real responsibilities in their lives. The most impressive statement is – quote: “The way women behave today, there is no wonder why most men don’t take them seriously anymore”.

    Why I don’t hate women as a whole?

    Because there are very many women out there that are good hearted human beings and perform well in their jobs, or are good in whatever they do. Yes, 15-20 percent were wonderful and “easy to work with” customers.

    One more reason not to be hateful: Up to the age of 8 to 9 girls are very nice companions. I had many girlfriends up to that age. Then their parents gradually “downloaded new society belief system software” to their brains and they slowly but surely became what they are now,

    So it is not the “computer hardware” but rather the faulty software running on it that renders it completely useless, dysfunctional and dangerously unreliable.

    In consequence we are rather looking at a general “society problem” than a simple gender or race issue…

    That is why ALL above statements can also apply to boys and men – but they are – from my observations – definitely in the minority. Men are – for the most part – the oppressed and exploited victim in today’s relationships…

    I lost or avoided almost all of my “Red Pills” before they could poison me. Three of “my girlfriends” told me “up front” – but after weeks of intimacy – that they don’t want to be with me because “your life is too perfect, without problems for me to solve (and bitch about)” and that “you are too smart for me (I can’t control you)” and that they “feel inferior and bored besides me (They can’t interact because they only think about themselves and their tiny little lipstick-world)”.

    Yes, because I don’t fit into their “tight thinking patterns” nor fall for their “low-intellect-mindgames”. On the other hand, they never complained about the physical side: All girlfriends wanted to keep my body, especially the reproductive organs – and of course: The car, house and credit card… Being “too smart” – no, rather: “psychologically and mentally balanced” – as well as “educated” (independent) and being able to feel “love” (that they could not give back) always threw me under the bus…

    One also said (in today’s words): I can’t handle that you are a strong alpha as well as a smooth and successful beta… But that was needed for my job…

    A proud and upright man cannot turn into an „asshole“ just to trigger the sexual appetite of a „flakey chick“. I rather have no chick at all, than becoming someone who is no longer able to stand in front of the mirror. Any authentic man will never “go that far down” risking his good business reputation by pretending to be “that thug type” that women like, just to get some appeal. For me, “money” took over that gap but I repelled all gold diggers with a smile on my face.

    That is the strangest thing: I cannot have sex without some real love and affection, so the few encounters that I had “were real” and that’s why these ladies wanted to keep my body and my c~~~. They never saw or appreciated that: I never had any “chicks on the side”… No constantly ringing cellphone… And no need to lie about anything… No debts or liabilities… Nothing that would make a woman jealous or afraid of anything.

    But then they became jealous of my company…

    Moral of the story: nothing is ever going to be good enough. So why worry. Don’t even think about doing anything to please women. And that is the problem women created in men this way. 40 years ago there would have been some “level of threshold” in the sat~~~faction of a woman’s constant materialistic needs. That is why marriages in those days were not quite such a disgrace as they are now. But today – after constant brainwashing by commercial TV – there is no limit left,

    What happens if a goal – satisfying a woman – becomes unreachable? People stop trying. Today: Men stop trying and stop wasting their hard-earned money on this “unreachable goal”. It’s like trying to fill a bucket with a hole in the bottom.

    Through all of these insights: A 3rd-stage MGTOW had become of me, that will “take what comes around” while never having kids, never making promises or financial commitments above 100 Euros… And when being “Friend-Zoned” I have some kind of timer on me: I play that game for a short time and when it becomes obvious that I am only a repairman, taxi or “service provider”, I am gone. This “time window” can range from a few hours to a couple of weeks but I never give away “extensive craftsmanship” or valuable gifts. In 18 years, it was never possible for a woman to get an antenna-system installation or a new TV-set for free.

    And when a lady suddenly happens to be “my girlfriend”: I am expecting 24/7 to be on the “ejector seat“ – getting replaced any moment the next prospect of the c~~~-carousel arrives. I always grinned and felt “funny enlightenment”, when I was replaced by a thug a lot younger than me…. Taking this as a deep internal compliment: Meaning – I was able to make love like an alpha but at the same time having a tender and caring christian “beta mindset”, that they could not understand nor handle… Or simply put: They were afraid of intimacy.

    That put a real emotional strain on me, especially when I started having real feelings for these ladies: First being selected for the optics and physical attributes by a woman that normally wants “alphas” – Then she ditches me a few weeks later for my “incompatible” brain and heart…

    Or she wanted me to be a submissive beta and then was afraid of my strong alpha-part.

    I just learned that this is normal with women that have a „Narcissistic Personality Disorder“ and „Borderline Personality Disorder“ at the same time or in varying strengths…

    They live under a cover of low self-esteem, unhappiness and lies. And they are afraid of strong “alpha“ personalities that might “blow their cover“ or “see right through them“. That is why smart, analytical men are completely ignored and hated by these 80 percent of women.

    It’s clear to see: Smart men will detect lies and as an example: They have the capability to secretly put a GPS device on a cheating woman’s car.

    Or a highly sensitive person will even smell the past presence “of another man“ in their house hours later… Or find hair in the car that they’ve never seen before…

    I would even see foreign fingerprints on all of my things, and also remember any slight changes in the settings of my appliances. Making cheating impossible to hide… (Her “secret lover” would have to be a ghost)

    These NPD and BPD women get scared like hell when they see my memory-capabilities… Like: “Oh, 2 years ago, you told me exactly… …I remember New
    Year’s Eve of 1979…. and in late 1974 I was…“

    This is making dishonesty and lying to me foolish… Women reserve themselves “the right to lie anytime about anything” and this is why they feel intimidated by my presence. (They told me so.) This turns even the best gold diggers away.

    “Empowered“ women or “flakey chicks“ unfortunately make up 80 percent of all females in the Western World. With the “East“ rapidly catching on.

    As I have read: They leave a trail of disastrous damages and traumatisation in the soul and psyche of good men. Many men who managed to get away from one of those
    will be going down MGTOW road for the rest of their lives.

    I know many men personally that escaped from the claws of “flakey chicks“ and are not coming back.

    MGTOW means: All this – that fills a very big book – will never bring you down or deflect you from any goal that you may have in your life. As a successful and free man, you remain “prettier” and “younger” for more years than haunted married slaves…. And that’s why you will always have women coming, even if they leave quickly upon realizing that they cannot trap and keep you…

    But if you ever get married, they will “take you down”, because they get that power by law… Even if the motive is jealousy: You have achieved something in your career and 4000 customers “give you unwanted attention” wherever you go…

    And that might be a reason for her wanting to see you fall (I have to live like a “pop star” in my business area, meaning “always on duty” when I show up in public)…. Most of my girlfriends did not want to be seen next to me, because of that “constant approaching” people do to me. All the attention goes to me and they get ignored, which is what women hate the most.

    So there is also some truth about the expression “It’s lonely at the top”.

    What is also very comforting to me are many books with scientific statements that it is “almost impossible to find a compatible partner for a “highly gifted” or “highly sensitive” person”. (OK, understood, and topic “written off” – no further need for females to throw rocks and shame at me)

    So “smartening up” is the best “active filter” or firewall against 85 percent of these narcissistic “gold diggers” or just to scare away women that want to take power over their man…

    Again my observation and experience: Women who normally take any man at any social level suddenly turn into gold diggers, when they see a successful alpha-like man.
    Sometimes asking outright: What kind of car do you have…? My sure-fire-answer to confuse them: It’s 16 years old, makes big black clouds behind it… But you surely don’t want a ride with me going 200 Km/h on a normal country road…. Do you? And then tell them what SW-Version runs on the “ECM”… And after telling them everything they don’t want to know… Explain the makeup and meaning of the Body-Serial-Number to her… That is how a proud and non-sex-craving nerd handles this type of girl with a smile on his face…

    Again: Driving like a “mad alpha” with worn tyre-sidewalls but at the same time with the 23 years-accident-free-record of an ultra conservative beta… this is also a part of the MGTOW attitude: Going my own way: Learning to do things better, becoming an independent “thinker” and effortless perfectionist. Life is easy, even at the top – including hundreds of responsibilities – if you are not chased around by a pressuring woman. Living and driving fast means: Being in control, safe, artistic, danger conscious and “routine-educated”… Not reckless and stupid, like going too fast in bad weather or within cities and inhabited areas… Like a coyote: Smelling and sensing danger around the corner… Handling that hunk of metal like your own body….

    And never let a naggy and uptight women co-driver distract you while driving – and make you cause an accident… That can be worse than any divorce…

    Very important: Women will always tell you that you need their services in order to cope with all responsibilities in life. The energy they draw out of you by nagging and dismounting your self-esteem is far more than it would take you to become a millionaire… My life took off in 1990 on the day I closed the door to all bitches so I could focus on what really gets me ahead. Getting A-grades in school but leaving the washing and the dishes for later. That is what makes MGTOW life wonderful.

    All this is why I will try to release all of my accumulated knowledge through the forums in the years to come…

    Imagine: 85 percent of men would be “Men Going Their Own Way” – Something would definately change for the better.

    And one more thing: (For any NAWALT possibly reading this)

    The AWALT-Law:

    Any NAWALT can permanently mutate into an AWALT within seconds…. So marriage can be considered worse than playing Russian Roulette.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #300600

    In reply to: New Hobbies

    ,
    ,
    Participant

    You have met your motivation by understanding how detrimental it is to your well being to continue X.
    Stop doing X. Something will fill the void.

    If you have no substitute, do some chores and let your mind wander.
    You are bound to have some other enjoyments, dreams, ambitions.
    Walk, just walk.

    I have never been in your situation at that age, other than doing repetitive detrimental things ( or doing too much nothing ). Mine came much later.

    After the Divi, I did some riding. Then, just took off for a couple weeks with no where to go. Wound up on a 4,500 mile run to Crow Agency MT.
    The solstice became soulstice; soul + justice.
    Just a bed roll, a phone for pics, a tablet for journaling, and a K-Mart rain suit, no gun, no tent, no real plan.

    But I don’t suggest riding unless its something you do now. Most of us have relayed what we do. I’m sure you have things you like and do, if not, take those Friday and Saturday nights to research and explore or put in PRACTICE a sideline.
    Outdoors stuff makes us so human and more connected to the planet its quite satisfying.

    FUN is the KEY. No other reason to live if not for FUN<
    Once I figured it out, and had fun, lived fun enjoyed fun, yep even screwed for fun, even work became fun. Now I can finally take the gals IF I want. NOT TAKE the gals if I want not.

    And very important for me now, MGTOW is a new hobby to complete and compliment my lifestyle. I’m in the early stages but it looks like
    ‘The Way’ is my way.

    with joy/without hate

    #300204
    Anonymousyam
    anonymousyam
    Participant

    Do wives suck their husbands off before death is the real question here? i mean what is the point of marrying if you are not gonna get one final suck before you slip into eternity? i could just pay a hooker to do it rather then some old grey haired post wall for 4 decades witch just to stand over me and watch me die.

    Now in my family it is rare for that to happen since when my grandfather died he was not surrounded by his wife and family rather his friends had to break the news that he heart finally gave out while he was driving.

    So f~~~ no people always will die alone alone you are couple in a plane crash that kills everyone instantly.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #299297

    In reply to: Why?

    Tiga K
    Tiga K
    Participant

    I come to this site for one reason. To help other men see how stupid the marriage contract is. I’m not terribly concerned with what all women are like or not like or what the feminists are doing. When I first joined the site, I found those topics interesting, but that is no longer the case. As long as more men are recognizing the risks of marriage, my time here has been worth it. Of course, I come here for a good laugh or conversation sometimes, but that isn’t my purpose here.

    Though I find my time here to have been worth it, I have been considering posting a lot less frequently and just focusing on other things. I feel like I’ve said all I’ve had to say and don’t really see how I can be of anymore use to the site. I’m just a 24 year old guy that has never dated, had sex, or anything like that. I’ve dodged every major bullet, so I don’t have many of those experiences to share with our new members. All I can be is like “Hey. I’ve never even kissed a girl, but I’m still happy. Don’t let anyone tell you that you NEED a woman or her approval. Live on your terms and don’t sacrifice your happiness to please a women, or anyone actually.” Maybe its finally time for me to shut up, make more room for the new guys, and hope my post continue to give whoever reads the archives a laugh or a bit of understanding.

    Note: I’m just typing as I think. I don’t have any concrete plans or anything. What I posted above is just something that I’ve been thinking about on and off for the past couple of weeks.

    #299079
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    Still single at 30…

    That is when educated men are finally out of school and start to make money.

    If you are still single then congratulatons:

    – You have missed buying a ticket for the Titanic
    – You just got fired form a job in the WTC an 10th of September 2001
    – You left Hiroshima one day before the atomin bomb went down
    – You missed the Germanwings plane that went down in France a while ago…

    You avoided DESASTER in your life. Other men are jealous about that.

    Definately. When I was young everybody would try to put me down for being single…

    That changed around the time I passed the age of 35… Since then men actually hate me for being so free.

    Of course they hate you, if you still have the money for things that they can no longer afford. After all, these men slaves have to take all of their hard earned cash to the bank in order to pay off debt caused by the endless needs of their wives.

    And at “around the age 35” – that seems to be the age when it hits them hardest.
    That is the point in time when the wishes of ther wives become unaffordable and the can’t sleep anymore because of their debt.

    And never forget the AWALT Law. Details on my personal MGTOW career in my profile.
    After reading this, I’m sure you probably will no longer be sad about still being single.

    And you will celebrate every day of your MGTOW life.

    MGTOW is the only way to go in “these times”.

    Like my parents getting out of communism… They did the right thing. So do we by becoming MGTOW.

    Women are the reincarnation of the Berlin Wall!

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #297100
    Quell
    Quell
    Participant

    Brothers, all too often I think we internalize the damage women have done to us from an mental perspective. We focus on the future or the anger of what happened to all of us. The vast majority of us are here because some traumatic event like a long-term breakup, infidelity, divorce, or financial ruin. We have vowed to help each other and to NEVER allow this sort of thing to ever happen to us again. For many men just going through this process it is extremely hard. A few days ago was the 3 year anniversary of my long-term relationship ending. It was very hard on me but today I am almost 100% better. I am different now; forever changed. I was looking back on my journey and how I felt and I likened it to a House. I hope this little story can help at least one person know that you are not alone and to reach out to any one of us during your rebirth. Thank you all for being there for me.

    The Burning House

    I think the reason why we men take a divorce or breakup harshly is this. Imagine you are living your life. You live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood. You have some great friends and a woman whom you consider your life partner. You have a dog and maybe a couple of kids. You have a good job and life is stable. Years of hard work and smart decisions allow you to enjoy the fruits of your labor until one fateful day:

    Now imagine one random Tuesday. It’s 5:47 pm and there is a gentle breeze rustling the summer leaves in the parking lot. You just got off of work and are driving home. The Beach Boys are on the radio and you shoot yourself a half grin as joy envelopes thoughts. You turn the corner to your street like you’ve done thousands of times before. You get closer to your home. You’re almost there.

    You pull into your safe little cul de sac… and look up… BOOM!… there is your home, and it’s on fire! Holy Crap! Flames are shooting from the kitchen window as black soot darkens the white washed siding you replaced last year. You jump out of your car and run inside. The flames are engulfing the kitchen. You yell for your wife but there is no answer. Where is she? Where are the dogs and the kids? You run into the garage and grab the fire extinguisher. You scurry back to the kitchen to put out the fire. How does this thing work? Pull the pin you dummy! Finally foam pours out of the canister. You think it is working and it does. But new fires emerge. A spot here, another spot there. It’s growing. Now it’s in the walls and you can see it jump upstairs. You finally see your wife and she is just standing there. Why isn’t she helping?!

    There is a hose outside. You make a mad dash for the backyard, attach the nozzle to the spigot and let ‘er rip! It’s working. The water is putting out the fire. Finally it is out. You run back inside to call 911 and that’s when you see your wife. Thank God she is ok. As you run past you see something in her hand… it’s a lighter. WTF? She looks back at you and lights the couch on fire. There is no emotion on her face as she stares right through your soul. It goes up like a match. Not only is the couch on fire but now she is lighting spot fires all over the house. Your mind can’t process what is happening. You run back for the fire extinguisher and try as best you can to put out the fires. As you get one under control another appears. They are getting bigger and bigger now and your extinguisher is just about out of foam. You only have one option. You run for your life narrowly escaping a falling beam. Your wife and kids are nowhere to be found. They calmly left out the front door 10 minutes ago.

    You look back in disbelief from the curb as your once beautiful house is now raging with inferno. Soon the fire department comes but there is nothing they can do. They just let it burn. They won’t let you go inside. They show no emotion. Just another job. Later they douse the blackened rubble with water then peacefully leave. Random people show up one by one to stare at the rubble. Within an hour of your house burning down a claims adjuster shows up on scene. Papers are signed. They are here to help they say. You are in shock. Next a disaster recovery and cleaning crew show up. Another meeting but the words don’t really resonate. Your wife is gone. Nobody seems to mention her. She started the fire. She is not here and yet nobody seems concerned about where she is. Within another hour you call your family two states over to tell them the news. It makes you feel better but within 30 minutes the call is over and you are back staring at the ashes. They can’t help. You wonder why no local TV crew didn’t come cover the story. The is big news… your house burned to the f~~~ing ground. Apparently nobody cares. This is not news; this is common place.

    It’s now 11 pm and the claims adjuster has left the scene. He has given you a list of extended stay hotels in the area and a voucher for some clothing at the local Target. That is the best he can do tonight. You try to go back into your house but the cleaning crew stop you this time. Your house, your world, is now tapped off never for you to return to again. You get in your car and pull out of your driveway in utter disbelief.

    Chapter II: Extended Stay

    But the story doesn’t end there. For the next 4 months your home is an extended stay motel on the opposite end of town. Your clothes are all new. Everything in your life is new but not a good kind of new. It is a worse kind of new. The aqua green polyester bed spread from 1996 and chipped linoleum floor in your new home is utterly depressing. This sucks. The only things to survive the fire were your car and your job. Going to your job every day is your new sanctuary, but even there you can’t escape the thoughts of your wife burning down your house.

    Eventually, after 4 months your claims adjuster calls with news. This is it, finally life will return back to normal you think. However, it is not good news. The insurance company will only pay 50% of your claim. You fight it and they fight back. They also represent your wife whom you’ve haven’t seen since the day of the fire. Apparently she had a hand in the claim. You fight indirectly but inside you know you have lost. It drains you further. You begrudgingly take the 50% claim and rent a townhome. The townhome isn’t anywhere near what your old house used to be. It is older and outdated but all you can afford. The money left over isn’t enough to replace all of the furniture you’ve lost but you make do with what you have.

    Your nights are spent thinking about how you got into this position and contemplating ways out of it. But there is no way out of it. Day after day you think and yell. Then you when you think you have it figured out the pain of it all hits you again and again. How do I get my house back? Where is my wife?…I am alone…That’s when you start to drink and smoke pot. You escape inward but unbeknownst to you the voices in your head are only amplified when distort the outside world. They become demons. Your friends grow tired of your story and you begin to distance yourselves from them. They are fine with your absence and forget about you. All you can ponder about is your horrible situation and ways to get out of it. You are obsessed with it. You talk to yourself and almost lose your mind every single day. Pressure is building. You mostly keep it together but incidents pop up at work. You go on a drunken bender and break a college kids nose. You now have a criminal record and more attorney’s fees. You seek counseling but it is only a band-aid. You can’t afford it so you stop going. It’s not your fault. You disappear.

    Darkness My Old Friend

    Then a deep sadness washes ashore as you realize there is nothing left. This sadness envelopes you like a woolen blanket. Darkness sets in and you stay that way for a good long while. You are an empty shell. Then one day you grow tired of being covered in darkness. You peek your head out only to see what your world has become. You don’t like it and go back into the darkness. The darkness becomes your companion and you become the dark. You live in the darkness for years. All you have is your memories and your sadness. You have gone mad. You tell no one as this struggle is yours and yours alone.

    You live in this darkness because your world is gone. Your home, your wife, your kids and dogs are all gone. All you want to do is go home like you had done thousands of times before but you can’t. One day, like nothing, it was taken from you. Your stability and the world you had skillfully crafted for years vanished in a blink of an eye. Ignorant blissful comfort is gone. What is hard about the darkness is that it is never ending. It goes on each day. Your wife never had to experience the loss. She destroyed your world but was able to effortlessly float into a new world almost immediately. Never appreciating any of it. She didn’t have to build a world of her own she simply jumped from one world to the next… always perfect and bendable to her whim.

    Redemption

    Slowly but surely you decide that the darkness has nothing and is nothing. Darkness isn’t fulfilling. One day you decide to leave the darkness and live in your townhome with your new clothes. They aren’t good so you choose to rebuild. You make a plan. You decide to move and one day you pack up what is left and start over fresh in a new city with a new job and a new purpose. You rent a small unremarkable apartment but it is yours and yours alone. It is pure with no memory of the past. You slowly gain back the money and confidence you had before the fire. You ride your motorcycle, learn to surf and travel on the weekends to the mountains to hike and fly fish. You get a new dog and he becomes your mate. You make new friends and even pork a girl or two for fun. You vow never to go back to your old life or look backwards ever again. You will never allow someone to burn down your house ever again. You are forever changed. You are now free to see the world with your eyes wide open. You are now MGTOW.

    #296789
    Mysterious Man
    Mysterious Man
    Participant

    Hey, guys! I’ve been lurking on this website for a while now, and finally wanted to join in. I’m 17 (it’s my birthday today, but I’ll get to that in a minute), and in my last year of high school, and I found out about MGTOW when I was 16.

    Now, to put it bluntly, my mom is a c~~~ and a bitch. Now, I’ll spare the details for a later post, but as I grew older, our relationship worsened. She’s a terrible human being, and I sincerely wish from the bottom of my heart I never had her as my mother. Not only is she oppressing and dictatorial, but she puts on a mask that fools everyone around her. She speaks in a Caribbean accent (my family is from there) complains about her being tired due to her chronic fatigue. I’ve tried to put up with it, but no more. I’m tired of trying to reason with her. I’m tired of the manipulation and lies.

    Recently, I strongly considered dropping out of high school due to the fact that it was draining me of my energy, I didn’t have the time in order to program for fun. When I told her, she got extremely upset, and said that, and I quote: “The only two ways for you to get out of going to high school is to run away from home, or commit suicide.” Here are some other gems from her:

    “If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten an abortion.”
    “He doesn’t know what he wants.”
    “You make my life miserable.”
    “We should take him to the Behavioral Center and have him drugged up on medicine.

    Now these are only a snippet of what she has said. When I tell others about what she said, they refuse to believe it or try to defend her actions. More violent encounters would see her yelling at me, slamming the door and locking it without giving me the opportunity to talk to her or retrieve my items, throwing things at me… on one occasion, she attacked me by swinging her fists. She’s also kicked me before, and she then has the gall to tell everyone around her that “she doesn’t know why hate her.” Pure insanity.

    Just today, she ordered me to go to school on my own birthday, even though years’ past, she would let me stay home and celebrate. Ignoring her, I stayed home from school and relaxed. She was extremely bitter about this, and told me that I had ruined my own birthday as if I had gone to school (be a slave to her commands) she would have taken me out to lunch, and we would’ve gone home to cut the cake sitting on our dining room table. Later, she offered me lunch, and I rejected her offer by throwing my clothes at her, calling her out on her behavior, and heading back to my room to finish my post. Childish, but necessary to ease my mind. Looks like I’m going hungry tonight.

    Now, I won’t go further into detail, simply for the fact that I’d like to keep some things private, and I’m currently going to school counseling for my suicidal thoughts, anxiety, and social ineptitude (I’ve struggled with this ever since the 5th grade, and it hasn’t gone away). I’m still very shy, and even attempt to avoid going out in public due to the fact that I may struggle with my anxiety. I try to treat everyone I meet with respect and friendliness, and even hold the door for passersby as they walk in for fun (it allows me to think and reflect, plus I see it as something needed in a world of hatred and anguish), but no more. The next school meeting I have, I’m going to let it all out and see where it goes from there.

    My dad is no different. He white knights for her whenever I try to defend myself, and physically attacks me. Admittedly, I’ve instigated most of the conflicts acting on the anger induced by what she has done, but now I just see it as pointless. It’s just despondency at this point, and I doubt things will change. I despise violence and conflict in any form, and most of the time I just get angry and go in my room. I flare up sometimes, but I stay to myself more and more these days.

    Ever since going MGTOW, I’ve seen women as less and less appealing to me, and I find it’s better to stay single and out of the dating scene. Nikola Tesla was celibate throughout his life, and I believe that is the right choice for me. In a plan I made to guide on my journey to becoming great, I even wrote this: “Chase knowledge, not women. Chase math and science rather than pleasure and sin.” At the end of the day, I view women as a forbidden fruit; tempting to eat, but ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things, and regretful depending on the type of fruit.

    Once I’m done with everything this school year, I’m gone off to college. I don’t have anything, but I think my merit (I’m going to take the ACT and SATSTs again, aiming for a perfect score. I got a 21 on the ACT the first time and a 25 the second time, but this time, I’m going for a perfect, if not high score in the 99th percentile.) should be able to help me live comfortably, while I’m studying. MIT and Caltech are great choices, but ETH Zurich has recently enamored me, since I want the luxury of going to a renowned college, getting a quality education in Mathematics and Computer Science, and graduating with little to no debt, and going off to begin my journey in changing the world as a programmer. I have roughly 13 colleges I want to apply to, but I think I’ll focus on studying abroad in order to save on tuition. I’ve read all about the late Steve Jobs and Bill Gates; their rivalry, their influence. I want to do something as significant as they did and change the world for the better, aiding humanity on our quest to the stars and Heavens above.

    I’m always open to private messages, so feel free to shoot me one about anything; I’ll try to respond as soon as possible, and hopefully I can make a lot of friends here. 🙂

    A big thank you to:

    TFM, Sandman, MGTOW 101, Raging Golden Eagle, and MGTOW HYBRiD in particular for waking me up and changing my life.
    The MGTOW community as a whole for being influential in my life.
    The creators of this awesome website; I’ve got some of the greatest advice I’ve ever had here.

    You guys have helped in a way that I will never be able to repay. I hope to give back with my insight on women and everything within the manosphere and become active on this site. MGTOW forever! 😀

    "Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

    #296110
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    What’s next ..

    • you are afraid of commitment
    • you are afraid of a successful woman
    • you are afraid of your emotions
    • you are afraid of a woman who knows what she wants!

    It’s all a bunch of stupid feminist trash.

    I once worked for a successful female CEO (part time) for 2 years. She was unmarried and what you would call a “strong woman”. She even introduced herself to people as “demanding” in the first conversation with them. “I can really be demanding” was one of the first things she said to me.

    ( how the f~~~ is that a skill? Any moron can be demanding. )

    One Friday night at 11PM, I got an email from her. She “demanded” something for Monday morning. She thought she could keep emailing me all night to “discuss” the project and she played email tennis with me for about 90 minutes.

    So I finally said.. “why don’t you just CALL me like an adult?? You had all week to ask me for this during business hours, why contact me on Friday at 11PM? Bad planning?”

    After 90 minutes of back-and-forth, there was no reply.

    Conclusion: “Strong women” are afraid of me.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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