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[The Manipulated ManParticipant]

Hello S66,

“Spartacus” is at the top of my list of favorite cable TV series, right next to “The Wire.”

Appreciate reading every word of your Introduction.

For me, it is better than a Jane Austin story.
A man’s Truth is better than fantasy.

Nevertheless, your well written story dropped off the bits about how “the affair” ended. To get the movie deal, you should write a proper ending.
It can be added whenever you want in the reply box below in this Introduction.

I look forward to reading your posts in the Forum.

Sparticus66 wrote:

I remember that the shirt that says ‘however beautiful she is, someone, somewhere, is sick of her s~~~

It is good to have words and ideas to process what has been happening in a man’s life. MGTOW is a great place to explore ideas and develop a plan for the future. The Archives are very helpful.

Sparticus66 wrote:

I’d rather be penniless than enslaved and depressed.

Most of us here believe that the pain of dealing with the “Red Pill” is much better than living in “Blue Pill Hell.”

Sparticus66 wrote:

The affair…

When she was pressuring you to move, did she call you her “Soul Mate” or was she more cerebral while promoting the supposed health, emotional, and financial benefits of the pleasure of her company?

Sparticus66 wrote:

She rang me upset one morning and asked if I’d marry her. I said yes why?

Did you go through with it and marry her?

Are you still seeing her?

Sparticus66 wrote:

But shed also flirt like f~~~ in front if a man was about. I was also taking small doses of red pill. The whole f~~~ing charade was being exposed.

How did you finally get free and clear of that manipulative narcissistic woman (AWALT)?

If you are still involved with her, then what are you learning about her, yourself, and the Red Pill world?

Finally, what happens when you share your Red Pill knowledge with others in the UK?

Here is a poster that sort of illustrates what happens when I tell men about MGTOW wisdom, especially Blue Men:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

I discovered this little slice of Nirvana (AKA MGTOW) after reading an article by Milo Yiannopoulos. I no sooner hit the home page when I realized I was home at last.

I am a Retired Marine Officer, living alone in the beautiful Blueridge Mountains of North Carolina. Three years ago I ended a marriage of 23 years that, in retrospect, was only a marriage of 3 years. The remaining 20 were spent in a form of indentured servitude with principal responsibilities of killing bugs, fixing things around the house, accepting the blame for all the perceived “bad” things that happens (If memory serves, I believe I accepted that I was the person on the “Grassy Knoll” when Kennedy was assassinated). I also accepted that I must be the one responsible for the loss of her phone charger, the cob webs in the corner of the kitchen, and any particle of dust or dirt found anywhere in the house.

To say it was a miserable existence would most certainly be a gross understatement.

Sometime during year 12 of this marriage SHE decided that she couldn’t get any sleep because I was constantly wrapping my arms around her during the night. An offense so egregious that separate sleeping arrangements were demanded.

Depression and thoughts of suicide set in. There must certainly be something wrong with me I concluded. Why to I constantly feel disthymic? Why do I constantly feel worthless and without purpose? Monthly visits to a Psychiatrist as a result of a diagnosis of “Major Depression Disorder” were part and parcel of my life. I was prescribed enough antidepressant medication to sedate a large circus animal. All, it seems, to no avail.

She had, what I would consider, an obsession for money and the collection thereof. In an attempt to avoid the trap of “Financial arguments are the root of most divorces” I applied logic and, what I believed common sense, and turned over every cent I made to her. How and where it was kept I have, to this day, not a clue. However, after some simple calculations I was able to conclude she controlled over $800,000. I controlled the .37 cents in my pocket as well as three lint-covered Tic-Tacs. She was very adept at cornering me to ask what I purchased from a Shell Gasoline Station that cost $27.56. Her access to the one joint account we had ensured I was kept under constant control and supervision.

One morning I opened the underwear drawer of my cloths dresser and noticed it was near empty. “OH MY GOD” I had better do the laundry today or she will be extremely unhappy. But buried deep in the drawer, hidden under several pair of boxers, I saw something strange. I pulled it out from beneath the stack, unfolded them and held them up in front of me. There, emblazoned across the front of the boxer shorts of the purest white, in bright bold letters were the words “Big Boy Pants – Wear At Your Own Peril”. I started to put them on, anxious and fearful of the consequences. They felt comfortable. Maybe a bit lose in the crotch but I figured I had bought them before my testicles were removed at the marriage alter. My God! I feel like I’ve been given Super Powers. I feel, dare I say, like a MAN!

That night when she arrived home from work, she immediately began her ritual of clearing everything from the kitchen counter in order to clean the coffee grounds I had let spill on the counter, obviously because I did not care about her or all the horrible things imposed on her at work. Interestingly, I had not made any coffee at the house for several months simply to avoid the inevitable spate of accusations each evening.

I snapped! My mind flashed the words “THIS IS B*LL SH*T!” like a bright neon sign in my mind.

“I’m leaving,” I said, “I’ve simply had enough.” “I’ve come to the realization that there is nothing, absolutely NOTHING that I can possibly do that will make you happy. I refuse to live like this any longer”

The first words from her mouth were shocking, but in retrospect, certainly not surprising, “We need to get your name off the title for the house as soon as possible” Those words alone, told me that I wasn’t crazy or depressed and that I was finally doing what is right for me, my life, and my sanity.

“What did I want in division of our joint assets?” she asked. My reply, “Nothing You can have the house, and all the money.” Sure I may have walked away from a very lucrative settlement but by giving her everything, there was nothing to contest. Should she try to contest, I would start asking for division of all the money and sale of the house; something I knew she could not bear.

I purchased a 116-year old home in the small town of Mount Airy, NC and moved in three months before the divorce was finalized. (Side Note: My lawyer said he had never handled a divorce that went through so quickly before. Obviously my plan was working). I now live alone with my two best buddies, “Sheldon” and “Penny”. Two of the most beautiful Bull Terriers you would ever see.

I’ve never been happier. During the closing, the closing attorney asked “What made you decide to move here?” I replied, “I can only answer your question, with a question. Who is John Galt?” He looked at me and smiled. He understood. “I’ve never received a more enlightened answer during my entire career in law”, he replied. We exchanged the secret wink and nod of the head that only those familiar with the writings, nay prophesies, of the late Ayn Rand secretly understand.

I’ve since lost all friendships I had while married for doing such a terrible thing. Strangely, the “Give A Sh*t” app on my cell phone registers nary a single bar. I live off the grid in a peaceful and serene town.

While this small town lacks many, if not all, of the amenities of a larger city, I don’t miss a single one of them. Granted, family trees here resemble a telephone pole and we have the only WalMart with a “Ten Teeth or Less” checkout lane, but at least we have the things men find most important – a traditional hardware store, a gun shop, and a business that continues to sell the Confederate Flag. When my neighbors first asked my reason for moving here I responded, “This is where the Witness Protection Program thought I would be safest”. Little did know the benefits of such an absurd declaration. I haven’t received a single visit by a Jehovah Witness, Mormon Missionary, or Door-to-Door Salesman. People walking their dogs cross the street when approaching my house out of fear that their pet will “do his business” on my lawn.

Because of a very generous retirement check from the military and disability benefits from the Veterans Administration, I live a rather comfortable life. I work on my house, come and go as I please, and am never questioned about the number of glasses of Scotch I’ve had.

If I have any regrets it is only that I did not find those “Big Boy Boxers” earlier in my life.

There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.

[Anonymous]

Fermat wrote:

Women just want to be taken care of at any cost. Spraying out kids to trap men, divorcing men so they can cash out and keep the kids, or lying to the government to get money.

Something in their brain makes them so hell bent on finding an entity that will cradle them like babies so they don’t have to deal with the scary world.

Here’s a relevant true story from a recent “Dear Abby” column:

Wife wanted children, but husband didn’t want children. So wife told husband that she couldn’t have children. So across the years they had three “surprise” children. Husband finally wised up and got a vasectomy. But wife “desperately” wants more kids. So she’s planning to visit a sperm bank behind the husband’s back. She asks Dear Abby’s opinion.

Link to “Dear Abby”: http://chicago.suntimes.com/lifestyles/dear-abby-3-surprise-babies-already-but-she-wants-more/

Any little lie or rip-off to get what she wants–lots of rug rats. That poor husband never had a chance.

[Anonymous]

Plant a spice garden and cook with it.

I’m growing some hot peppers on the balcony but I almost killed them, but I hope there will be some peppers. I’d love to cook a Texan chili sauce with my home grown habaneros …

skioman wrote:

You should get your thyroid and testosterone checked. Lay off the alcohol

Now on yesterday morning I bought a stronger multivitamin (Scitec Multi pro, with a lot of good stuff beside vitamin) and a testosterone increaser (Scitec TGH) and I feel much better. It is also weekend, so I can do finally my own stuff whole day. And I didn’t drink any alcohol in the last 2 days. I try to drink fruit tee instead, just to drink something tasty, but I don’t know what can relax me more before sleep.

joetech wrote:

Try taking up a new hobby.

I have a lot of hobbies, I don’t even have time for all…

[Banks Control The WorldParticipant]

BrainPilot wrote:

Does anyone other than me ever wonder wether the expansion of Islam is just the result of a lot western leaders having just been bought off with middle eastern oil money? The simplest explanations are often the most reliable. And nothing is more straightforward, simple and reliable than a politician who sells his/her loyalty to the highest bidder…

Breitbart: Muslims Demand Polygamy In Response To Same Sex Unions

Aug 9, 2016 – Following the introduction of civil partnerships, Muslim representatives in Italy are now demanding the legalisation of polygamy.

One of the reason Islam grows is because normal people have families they can afford while Muslims demand multiple wives so they can have 10 kids apiece with 5 different wives. Obama’s brother Malik has American citizenship and he has multiple wives. Apostasy in Islam is death. So technically, when you’re born a Muslim, you’re supposed to be killed if you give up the religion. Saudi Arabia kills people for that.

The Telegraph: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

24 Feb 2015 – A Saudi Arabian court has sentenced a man to death for apostasy after he filmed himself tearing up a copy of the Koran, a new test case for the country’s human rights record just as its most powerful rising prince was visiting Downing Street.

The fact is, they’re taught that if they live a sinful life like many of them do… sex, rape, drinking and all of that stuff. They can go kill some non-Muslims or some homosexuals, some whores etc. and if they die in the act of doing it, they get 72 virgins and go to paradise. Unlike Christianity, they also have Sharia Law. Their beliefs and laws overrule laws set in countries they go to. Some assimilate but most don’t. Amazingly, Colin Kapernick was adopted and raised by a white family but he still decided white people are racist and converted to Islam. Which by looking at him, he clearly came from a line of Muslims but wasn’t actually raised as one. That’s how Islam grows… outproduce us, move to non-Muslim countries so over time they can outvote us as they bleed the system dry with their 5 wives 50 children. Their prophet tells them to us and we greet that with open arms. Well, liberals do anyways.

Also, “Allahu Akbar” doesn’t actually mean “God is great” like the media says. It actually means “Allah is great – than your God”. They believe they’re the final religion. They believe that Muhammad’s words and actions are the actions all should live by. He was a rapist, pedophile, incest, murderer that believes men are above women. Believes that you should kill infidels for not being Muslim. Believes that you should kill Muslims for leaving Islam. Believes that you should kill homosexuals. Married his brother’s daughter when she was 6 and raped her when she was 9. He is the perfect model to Muslims. People I know don’t care thought and are happy to have them here. People I know are also happy to open the borders and let pretty much everyone in. They also want free college, guns taken away and prefer socialism. I don’t get what’s happened to these people given the fact they’re all college educated. Adding incompatible cultures to a country that’s deeply in debt, turning over the internet and taking away our guns is how this is going to end if Hillary becomes president.

I am on the side that thinks Hillary is unhealthy and she has issues. Obama has always said he wants a 3rd term and wishes he were emperor. What happens if Hillary passes away prior to the election or falls so ill she can’t continue? You can’t just substitute Kaine with a month left and have a vote between Kaine and Trump. Obama would have to continue longer and the election moved back??? Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

NotMyProblem wrote:

I’ve had this thought going through my head for the last 6-12 months, and I feel it has finally crystallized to the point where I can describe it accurately.

If one were to describe MASCULINITY in one word and one word alone- That word would be INDEPENDENCE.

[and]

The truth is that deep down I want the freedom to be SELFISH. I want the freedom to expel everything from my life that doesn’t serve me.

I’m going to put my own spin on this. First, the relation between Masculinity and Autonomy/Independence.

Tl;dr version:
1) Femininity = Emotions = Empathy = Community.
2) Masculinity = Logic = Intellect = Autonomy.

To spell it out in more detail:

The tl;dr version should be pretty self-explanatory. I’m not putting down empathy and community by putting them in the Feminine category. A functioning society needs both Feminine and Masculine traits.

Also, men can be empathetic and in touch with their emotions and enjoy community. Just as some women can be logical and intellectual and autonomous.

But when push comes to shove, in a crisis or emergency situation, real men are expected to tamp down their emotions and pull on their big-boy logical pants. They are expected to keep a cool head and use intellect to find a solution.

And of course logic and intellect result in autonomy insofar as they may lead us in diferent directions from where the community would have us go. As men, we are expected to be leaders. Sometimes that means striking out in a new direction.

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As for leading a Selfish Life: I see that as a separate argument. Here’s how I see it:

Tl;dr version:
1) Life is meaningless. But that doesn’t mean we can do anything we want.
2) Even when life is meaningless, there are objective guides and constants such as pleasure and pain.
3) So at a minimum we can be guided by philosophies that show us how to maximize pleasure and minimize pain.

People have been living with the meaninglessness of life for a long time. Someone once asked Sigmund Freud, “What’s the purpose of life?” In typical fashion, Freud answered a question with a question: “Why should life have a purpose?”

Personally, I love the fact that life is meaningless: I think it’s precisely the pointlessness of life that makes life fun and worth living. If life were to have one single clear and universally-agreed purpose (above and beyond mere reproduction), then we would all have to spend our lives working and straining toward that one goal, like beasts of burden.

But with no clearly-defined purpose, life becomes more like a sandbox-style video game. Have fun with it, explore, travel, try new things. The pointlessness of life takes the pressure off and permits us to take risks and have fun.

Next question: If life is meaningless, then does this mean that reality is insubstantial? Does that mean that society is artificial and arbitrary?

Reality is obviously *real.* If you fall 10 feet onto a slab of concrete or fall down some stairs, you’re going to feel pain. If you take a bite of chocolate or go on a carnival ride, you’re going to feel pleasure. Those things are real.

Furthermore, pleasure and pain are a big deal. Civilization is built on the principle of trade-offs between pleasure and pain. We give up some spontaneity and freedom in order to gain the benefits of modern society and get rid of the pain of living in the wild, but we also give ourselves outlets for pleasure when possible so that life has rewards other than mere avoidance of pain. Freud wrote about this in his book “Civilization and Its Discontents.” In short, society isn’t arbitrary at all; Freud and other thinkers have found society to be a fairly effective way of dealing with something very real: Pleasure and pain.

Same with your position in society. Sure, life is meaningless, but you still have to live. There is still the outside world and its “reality checks.” There is still pleasure and pain. For example, one can say, “Life is meaningless, so I might as well eat candy 24 hours a day.” Life is indeed meaningless, but if you eat candy 24 hours a day eventually you will still have to deal with the “reality check” of weighing 300 pounds and having scurvy and other nutritional deficiencies after a few months of living that way.

The same principle is true when interacting with others in the world around you. Society is all about egos. If your ego is constantly in conflict with the egos of others around you, your ego is going to get beat down. There is a lot of inertia in society, and it’s tiring and inefficient to swim against the current all the time. So you find that balance between satisfying your own ego and putting up with constraints put on you by outside egos.

To sum up: Life is meaningless; but at the same time it’s *real*. Pleasure and pain exist, and broken bones and lacerated flesh hurt like hell. Society is built around trade-offs between pleasure and pain. So if pleasure and pain are real, then there’s a certain legitimacy to the choices that society makes. Same with your individual role in society.

Okay, so where does that leave you?

Well, take the principle of meaninglessness:

You can delve into philosophies dealing with the meaningless of life. For example, existentialism, nihilism, and absurdism. Camus, an absurdist, felt that life itself is meaningless, but *a* life can have meaning. That is, you can still chose to live in a fashion that emphasizes integrity of thought and action. It may not have meaning in the sense of leaving an indelible mark on the universe, but it will give your own life direction and purpose and stave off that feeling of floating adrift.

Or take the pleasure-and-pain principle. Here are three old schools of thought based on that principle:

Hedonism: A school of thought that argues that pleasure is the primary or most important intrinsic good. In very simple terms, a hedonist strives to maximize net pleasure (pleasure minus pain).

Ethical hedonism: The idea that all people have the right to do everything in their power to achieve the greatest amount of pleasure possible to them, assuming that their actions do not infringe on the equal rights of others. It is also the idea that every person’s pleasure should far surpass their amount of pain.

Epicureanism: Pleasure is the greatest good, but the way to attain such pleasure is to live modestly and to gain knowledge of the workings of the world and the limits of one’s desires. This led one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear, as well as absence of bodily pain (aponia). The combination of these two states is supposed to constitute happiness in its highest form.

These three ideas are basically philsophical justifications for “selfishness.” If you’re curious, look them up in Wikipedia.

Again, the idea here is that life itself is transitory and meaningless, but it’s still within one’s power to life a life that is enjoyable and pleasurable. And that’s actually a pretty nice way to live, as long as the cost or the effort of obtaining one’s pleasures isn’t horribly high.

Wrapping it up now:

Anyway, the point is that there are actually lots of ways of minimizing the “meaningless” of life and living a fulfilling life. The great minds of humanity have tackled the problem repeatedly and found lots of solutions. In some cases, they even embraced meaninglessness as freeing (such as the example of “life as a sandbox-style video game”). So pick a philosophy and read up on it, whether it’s Camus or Freud or Epicurus of ancient Greece or someone else entirely. There is Positivism, Humanism; more recently, Martin Seligman created Positive Psychology as a way to better the lives of those who aren’t actually ill or disordered but who could use a jump-start to a happier life; it suggests a number of routes to a happier, more fulfilled lifestyle, many involving greater engagement with the world and the people around oneself.

After that, set up your daily schedule so that it reflects the priorities of your chosen philosophy and then live according to it. See if it works for you. And if you feel anxiety, tell yourself, “Lighten up! I’m doing what’s important to me, and I’m making progress on it. There’s nothing else to be done; I just have to stick to my schedule and see what comes out of it.”

Hi guys!
I didn’t find a similar topic, so I ask it here.

I have been MGTOW in the last 2 years. After I broke up my GF I had a lot of free time, and good mood and good productivity, most of the time.

But nowadays, I have bad mood. I am mentally tired at the end of the working time at 6 pm or so. (especially if it was a boring day with minimal productivity and lot of bulls~~~) and after work, I have in theory I have 5 more hours to 11 pm. (Even if I’m mentally tired, I cannot sleep earlier) I could -in theory- do a lot of simple things in that time (household work, repair or tinker my bike, go for a long bike ride, or whatever), but I just somehow do not feel like doing it. This was the same today, and I just wonder where all my time disappeared, all I did and for what I remember is shopping and starting the washing machine and internet browsing. And I keep lagging behind my plans of lot of little things to do in the nights in order to make my bike into the best condition and pack the bag for Saturday when I might have time for a 100 km ride.

Also, even if I wake up at 7 am by myself, I cannot get myself out of bed until something like 8 (at least I live 1 km next to workplace, that one is good for me.) I drink a lot of coffee (4-5) during the day, but it does not help much on the boring days. Even on normal days I’m suspicious that workplace coffee is some weak placebo, the one I cook home at least has three times the effect, on weekends I can go with just 1-2 home-cooked strong coffees.

Before going to bed, sometimes 1-2 beers or cups of red wine and some metal music helps to push my mental state more up, but it is just not enough, and if I drink more than two, I get a hangover and probably wake up 4 am thirsty with headache and after not enough sleep and cannot sleep back. So this also does not work.

I was also working out (well, that was long time ago) and it slightly helped me to sleep, but did not help anything with my s~~~ty body shape (I was 10 kg less, still had steak belly even if I have strong abs underneath. even when I was 16 with 65 kg and 170 cm and one of the strongest guys in class and good at swimming, I had the same ugly belly.) Also, I experienced something, that is called “runners high” , when I was running for 40+ minutes, but that is not a “high” just a neutral feeling instead of boredom, and my head was empty. (most of the time the one treadmill in the gym was occupied…), but there was the same feeling while I was riding bike in the big sunshine on an empty road for hours without meeting anyone and listening to radio. Nowadays I don’t hit the gym, because it takes a lot of free time in one piece to go there, change clothes (30 min) do the workout while waiting for others on the same machine, and do some treadmill or other cardio or fat-burning afterwards when I am finally there (1.5-2 hours) and shower, dry off, cool down(so that I don’t sweat the new clothes again), and change clothes and go home (1 hour) so it is 3 hours in total. I’m waiting any tips to speed this up. In winter, I tend to have more trouble with clothing and time. I also have to find a gym where there are enough machines and stuff so that I don’t need to wait that much. S~~~ I even had to wait a lot to have an available case in the changing room.

I also take multivitamins and magnesium pills daily, and try to eat healthy food. I never eat sweets I don’t even like it. Even if my mother makes a cookie, I tell her to minimize sugar (and she does). My belly more likely may just be due to my too big appetite (and I enjoy any tasty spicy food with some chili and meat).

TL,DR: I feel tired, work has boring days, caffeine helps minimally, alcohol even less, workout needs to be heavily optimized but also does not help much to my mood. I’m also above 30, so my testosterone and metabolism may be less optimal than in my younger ages. What the hell should I do to fix my mood?

[Chaff/FlareParticipant]

Uintatherium wrote:

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Russky wrote:

We should resist the programming. We should make sure nobody tries to tax carbon emissions – it’s a scam.
We should also try to stop geoengineering

Bingo. C02, we exhale it, plants inhale it. How do we control every single person in the world? Make up some bulls~~~ story, they will never notice the temperature on the other planets fluctuate on the same cycle, Tax the f~~~ers to breath. Make it so expensive to travel, the little f~~~ers will never leave their hometown. And, once they throw away all their books and record everything they know on the Internet, we take that away from them too and in three generations, they will be back to the Stone Age.

The other planets fluctuate on the same cycle? I posted sources. Where are yours?

Yeah, CO2 is a necessary part of photosynthesis. It also traps heat. The average global temperature was much higher back in prehistoric times because there was more CO2 in the atmosphere. Plants can adapt to changes over millions of years, but they have difficulty adapting to temperature changes that occur over mere decades. That’s the real reason why climate scientists are freaked out. We need agriculture to live … and we a putting it in jeopardy. What we are doing is literally worse than p~~~ing in your own drinking water.

Another Thing: Who wants to tax our breath? I’ve never heard an environmentalist advocate such an absurdity. This is slipping into Alex Jones territory now.

Finally, you talk about the return of the stone age as though it is a bad thing. In the stone age, men ruled over obedient women. The stone age wasn’t that bad in my opinion.

Another thing: what the f~~~ do you think they’re getting at? Tax their own jets? No no. It’s a base tax for just existing. Then the add ones: Cows, tax. Car, tax. Eat meat, tax. You think I’m crazy? I don’t know, two lesbos just won child support from their sperm doner.

Finally: “men ruled over obedient women”. You think I’m a one issue dumbass? This whole thing is ie engineered to enslave / extinguish the useless eaters. The useful idiots that support taxing anyone for carbon will get their just deserts.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant]

Uintatherium wrote:

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Russky wrote:

We should resist the programming. We should make sure nobody tries to tax carbon emissions – it’s a scam.
We should also try to stop geoengineering

Bingo. C02, we exhale it, plants inhale it. How do we control every single person in the world? Make up some bulls~~~ story, they will never notice the temperature on the other planets fluctuate on the same cycle, Tax the f~~~ers to breath. Make it so expensive to travel, the little f~~~ers will never leave their hometown. And, once they throw away all their books and record everything they know on the Internet, we take that away from them too and in three generations, they will be back to the Stone Age.

The other planets fluctuate on the same cycle? I posted sources. Where are yours?

Yeah, CO2 is a necessary part of photosynthesis. It also traps heat. The average global temperature was much higher back in prehistoric times because there was more CO2 in the atmosphere. Plants can adapt to changes over millions of years, but they have difficulty adapting to temperature changes that occur over mere decades. That’s the real reason why climate scientists are freaked out. We need agriculture to live … and we a putting it in jeopardy. What we are doing is literally worse than p~~~ing in your own drinking water.

Another Thing: Who wants to tax our breath? I’ve never heard an environmentalist advocate such an absurdity. This is slipping into Alex Jones territory now.

Finally, you talk about the return of the stone age as though it is a bad thing. In the stone age, men ruled over obedient women. The stone age wasn’t that bad in my opinion.

Thinking al gore and the UN has has humanity’s best interest at heart is the same as thinking a stripper really loves you.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[UintatheriumParticipant]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Russky wrote:

We should resist the programming. We should make sure nobody tries to tax carbon emissions – it’s a scam.
We should also try to stop geoengineering

Bingo. C02, we exhale it, plants inhale it. How do we control every single person in the world? Make up some bulls~~~ story, they will never notice the temperature on the other planets fluctuate on the same cycle, Tax the f~~~ers to breath. Make it so expensive to travel, the little f~~~ers will never leave their hometown. And, once they throw away all their books and record everything they know on the Internet, we take that away from them too and in three generations, they will be back to the Stone Age.

The other planets fluctuate on the same cycle? I posted sources. Where are yours?

Yeah, CO2 is a necessary part of photosynthesis. It also traps heat. The average global temperature was much higher back in prehistoric times because there was more CO2 in the atmosphere. Plants can adapt to changes over millions of years, but they have difficulty adapting to temperature changes that occur over mere decades. That’s the real reason why climate scientists are freaked out. We need agriculture to live … and we a putting it in jeopardy. What we are doing is literally worse than p~~~ing in your own drinking water.

Another Thing: Who wants to tax our breath? I’ve never heard an environmentalist advocate such an absurdity. This is slipping into Alex Jones territory now.

Finally, you talk about the return of the stone age as though it is a bad thing. In the stone age, men ruled over obedient women. The stone age wasn’t that bad in my opinion.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[chirParticipant]

Oh god… there are people here who believe this s~~~.

Ok…

1) There is no proven link between CO2 levels and increasing or decreasing temperature.

There are only several things which affect earths temp. A) the sun B) the eccentricity of earths orbit C) Volcanism D) s~~~ we have not discovered yet

2) The climate will always change. Notice that much of human civilization leaps occurred during warm periods. Note that the Medieval Warm period was the birth of the Renaissance and the beginning of western civilization. We are not even CLOSE to that temp and humans back then sure as s~~~ were not driving around in corvettes or burning oil. There were less than 600 million humans alive back then.

3) Anyone who calls “climate change global warming” a settled science and we need only to look for solutions needs to A) turn in their Scientist Card B) Turn in their Man Card This is about MONEY. Politicians like fear. It makes people give up money and their freedoms so they can feel safe. What better way than to co-opt the science community to spread fear by throwing wads of money at them (22 billion a year) so they yip and roll over on command.

Not all scientists agree with climate change global warming. You think 1 or 2? No, over 31,000.
http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php
Here is a link to peer reviewed paper. Written by several Ph.d’s who I admit are a f~~~-ton smarter than me. However I read both sides and took 9 years to finally make up my mind.

My conclusion? We need to do more science on climatology. It’s not a settled science. We are still learning and we must stop anyone from preventing the advancement and discussion of science.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[GargamelSpectator]

So… here I sit in my basement batcave.

A quarter century of IT training, ready to blast into website land.

MGTOW informed me that it was OK to stop chasing women.

I love my batcave… I had it redone.

It’s warm in winter, cool in summer and radon free… I keep a monitor going.

It’s where I run my enterprises I’m creating, seven days a week around the clock.

Silly women would go rent an office, staff and be out of business in a month.

The being alone this is not true.

If you did well… and are a six figure IT guy.. you get all the gold diggers you want.

Ah.. embrace them… they f~~~ like porn queens. Just tell them nothing…wear your gym hat…

Then when you want them out of your life.. slowly blame it on work and they magically go away from

email neglect.

In the end MGTOW is living YOUR life.

It is great to be able to change your car oil and change women too….

They are all looking for that meal ticket. I don’t care what anyone says…

So you look GQ keep the gut off… be successful and selectively

open your “Christmas presents” when YOU want.

Then if they get flakey….email neglect makes them magically evaporate.

They move on as father time with each passing hour is degrading their

looks and offerings.. and they know this.

Gents, it really is the golden age for men now.

You just need to find your angle.

I will say this…

TELL NO ONE YOU ARE MGTOW.

The ladies at work will get HR on your ass.

Fight Club “You do NOT talk about MGTOW.”

The women of the world are still trying to figure out what went down.

They are all slowly turning on feminism and blaming them for their

man-less lonely lives.

So this one Gold digger wanted me to get snipped…FOR HER!

Then after banging her in hotels a few times….she met at the hotel on the first

date and went porn queen on me…

Later… the controlling c~~~ came out.

So I put her on the bench…

Her final quote…

“I feel like a whore, I did not even get to go to dinner.”

Well… what can I say when the woman was sending me

tons of real estate links of the $700k homes she was picking out.

It’s like she though she won the lotto… a man with a good job.

RULE: Gold Digger = Hot sex for a few weeks.

Just be very careful…

Like juggling snakes! ha

to the feminist….We are all tired of you thinking that every

female on the planet is perfect, innocent and so on.

This woman’s agenda was to web me, then divorce me and

enslave me for a plantation life of alimony.

I call alimony the “Plantation!”

There we go.

Now I’m headed into full MGTOW.

I closed all my dating site accounts.

Total focus on my projects.

Eat, sleep, work, walk the dog, work out, go alpha male.

So that’s my life friends.

I’m discovering how peaceful life is when the phone and email are not brimming.

MGTOW..

FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, ALMIGHTY GOD… FREE AT LAST FROM PUSSY ADDICTION.

Train your mind.. I was laughing to myself.. I walked by a hot lady today..

and made no eye contact… I could tell she was unglued as a man was not falling all over himself to say hi.

Love this s~~~.

50 years of sexual enslavement… now nearly free.

Is anyone else feeling all this MGTOW self confidence, love and peace?

Just saying….

Well, your story is exactly like mine:

Greetings from another bat cave.

Unlimited happiness without tyranny. 26 years of „fire-dragon-free“ life. No way I would ever want to change that.

It was always so much fun taking a gold digger home with me and showing her my appartment filling record collection, stereo with man-tall-speakers in every room, 4 PCs with 37 inch screens, car restoration projects in the garden, huge satellite dishes in every corner of the estate…

… and see their reaction. „How can you live like that?“ „No woman will ever put up with this!“

Answer: „That is why I still look young and healthy. And that’s why I am in peace with myself. Or where did you think that the knowlegde to make my money was initially aquired?“

They sometimes freeze and get a pale face, as if to say to themselves: „Oh, out of luck, he will never make me a queen of his nest… No matter how good he (his wallet) is, but this will never be my place to take over and rule. He will never allow me to throw his „quarter-million-Euro“ music collection in the dumpster“

The shock is so great that they don’t see that I have a second, uninhabited and even larger (100 sqm) appartment above mine. They only see that „I am what I am“ and will never change to become their slave. (In Germany, housing is extremely expensive and having something around 160 square meters in the vicinity of a big city is „a lot“)

Me: „Changing me? Why? What can I learn from a woman?“ Yes, a woman could teach me „How to become poor, by getting her cats to s~~~ all over the place, run me into debt, making drama over nothing all night, taking away my sleep, all of my creativity and destroy my study opportunities“

Me: „But I have decided to be successful and independant… Or do you think that is NOT supposed to be a man’s goal in life… And I have only been successful because I locked out all drama and toxic freinds from my life.“

She – getting blame-shame-p~~~ed: „Because you are not a real man… You cannot open up to someone…“

Me: „Yes, then go and get yourself a real man.“ „There are plenty of them out there“

„And ALL of these real men own debt free houses and cars, are non drinkers, non smokers, are hygenic, tall, strong, respected, well earning… and all of them will have more than „only 5×17 cm“ in their pants…“

She: „Take me home“.

Nice to see how fast love ends when you don’t show the intention of becoming their slave.

Talkin’ about me: Whenever I was in love, I would have taken that women even if her parents were totally poor and she lives on a junkyard. The price-tag on her daddy’s car would not matter to me at all.

But even ugly, super tall and mega-overweight women have a „list of desires or entitlements“ that no man on this planet can fulfill, so just leave it.

It is just not worth the effort.

Getting „unlimited power and control over you“ is definately more important to women than ending their decade-long loneliness with a smart and communicative man that could give them more than any „average dude“ could give them…

But I don’t react on „entitlement“. When building up my company, nobody entitled me to receive anything. I had to work hard for it.

After all:

Making 4000 demanding customers happy is easier than this.

MGTOW for ever.

My bat cave will become a stock-market and forex trading saloon one day.

The odds are good, meaning: Not losing money but making it:

No woman here to mess things up… And the quote screens and tickers above the bed…

AND to go back to the topic of this thread:

NEVER partner with a women in business. Same problems as „stated above“

She will bitch and rant endlessly over a forgotten can of soda, p~~~ing off your best employee that makes a NET (after wages and materials) profit of 40 thousand Euros per year. How do I know: I bought the company and the „secret statistics“ with it. So I know how much my former chief earned with my work alone. But his bitch was a problem. She made him give up his company for her.

That is why I bought my company and took over my co-worker on the day we got terminated!

I had no intention of becoming a wealthy company owner because I was already a wealthy employee at that time in the mid-90s…

But GETTING RID OF THE CHIEF’S WIFE was what made me „move up“ by buying his company in 2000…

She ran him aground in 2007…

While my ship still sailed the oceans.

NEVER let a woman into your business. Here is another important advice: 90 percent of all tax-fraud and tax-evasion cases against craftsmen or other self-employed entrepreneurs are caused by women telling the state agencies or „the IRS“ (USA) about what their husbands or boyfriends „make on the side“.

BIG WARNING.

I had so many female customers that I ran my company „by the book“ because they could „turn around“ in a second and point the finger at me. I never gave them a chance to find anything.

But if YOU make any money „on the side“, „under the table“ or „black“ as we Germans call it…

NEVER let a woman see it. Or know about it. Not even in the best of times!!!

Like I say: 90 percent of these tax-evasion court-cases happen because of women telling on their man.

I read somewhere: MGTOW saves lives. Yes it does. Some entrepreneurs have hung themselves after getting a tax-claim-bill from the state – calculated upon an estimate of their „suspected income“…

So… Here is my MILLION DOLLAR ADVICE.

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This mighty s~~~ test, huh?

By not talking, a woman may feel she is punishing her man when in fact it’s a welcome relief from the constant harping and bitching a man has to listen to on a regular basis.

The hamster is in overdrive here at FTA’s plantation. I’m one of the former beta’s that married and had a few kids. 10yrs down the road things aren’t so rosy. SAHM’s feeling extra entitled these days despite not having a care in the world except for looking after the kids and tidying from time to time.

Your’s truly was on the last few days of his holidays, and decided it was time to go for a solo night to a friends house for a holiday wind up beer night. Told the missus, I’m heading over to ********’s place for a few drinks, I’ll be home later. Enjoy the rest of the evening with the kids.

Comical, the way they feel affronted when not asked for permission. Here’s a hint ladies (if you’re reading this), do your part, and give your man a reason to want to stay home. Don’t assume that you always have control, remember, if you push a man too far, sooner or later too far becomes away (badly quoted, I know)

Needless to say gentlemen, the silence has been deafening here lately except for the comfortable conversation I’m finally able to have with my sons. As I mentioned in my intro post, I’m here because of them, not her at this point. Life has a twisted way of giving you some of the best times, doesn’t it?

[GargamelSpectator]

Hello,

everybody here speaks the truth and nothing but the truth. So good to see that I am really not alone on this planet.

I live MGTOW since the middle of my childhood (1976). And the reason is that I was exposed to the lies and intrigues that woman do to men. And that these women also forced this type of behavior on a little boy that happens to be smarter and mentally healthier than they were.

85 percent of women seem to be suffering from BPD and NPD at the same time. And they all have in common that „hell brakes loose“ when they meet someone „that sees through them“, detecting their blanket of lies and shame that makes them the unhappy person they are.

MGTOW is a union of smart men that finally see the light and push aside the carpet of lies and shame that most women covered us with.

The „female queens and princesses“ now lose their camouflage, get exposed, analysed and put on display for all to see…

That is why they „go beserk“ about a movement like ours. Same happens to any men telling a BPD and NPD girlfriend that he went MGTOW…

>>> Give the poor guy some earplugs, a protective suit and a fast car. These women don’t stop at yelling…

Now the same phenomenon goes worldwide… The yelling and blame shaming has only just begun. And the wonderful thing about this is, that we don’t give them real ammunition.

„Walking away“ – the main idea behind „going their own way“ is the most successful concept in dealing with BPD and NPD for it cannot be healed. You can only protect yourself from a mentally ill person of that type.

This is what it says in every psychology book: Walk away or you get burned.

Putting it all together: We have a scientific foundation for our existence.

As 85 percent of women are more or less of the BPD and NPD – type, we are just another on-the-job-forum that the staff or the guards of any lunatic asylum would use.

Forum Topic: “Protecting yourself from patients with combined Borderline Personality Disorder and Narcisstic Personality Disorder – when they snap and twist out of control”…

The only difference is that this lunatic asylum is „the world“.

MGTOW is only about protecting yourself from the social developments that went out of control.

The patients also see the guards as „danger“.

That is not funny, as I have been to thousands of households and got to taste the emotional climate that was „in the air“ when the TV quit working. I sometimes felt like a psychologist having to deescalate the situation by bringing back the TV-picture „at once“ so the bored wife would stop complaining. Sometimes this would draw more energy out of me than the job itself.
In that small moment, I was forced to take the role of the husband – meaning „instant satisfaction of his nagging wife“. Because he didn’t have the qualification and tools to do it himself.

Men sometimes begged me to fix the antenna within hours…

I always felt like a guard in a jailhouse of madness.

Thousands of times I drove home with the music „full up“ and said to myself „what a wonderful life it is coming home to a quiet place at night“. „OMG, never get married“.

And we MGTOWs have an attitude that will bring a cold wind into the comfort zone of these lunatic bitches.

That is why we are „so dangerous“, that they list us among the radical groups. The only radical thing we cause is that gold diggers have to get a job. (More about this on my profile – the “clinic pack” of red pills)

Well, we are the most honest and clear-thinking community that men have around to get help and find comfort. No stupid ideology, just plain common sense.

And I personally can tell that no man here wants more from a women that he would not be wanting to give to her in return.

If women can’t love: That is their problem, not ours. But we live in a democracy and we are not “dangerous” by publicising the truth. They can’t feel love, because otherwise they wouldn’t play on their smartphone while in bed with a man. At least 40 percent of AWALT, and I had “one of these cases” for a few weeks.

Only one thing I can say: Won’t somebody of the feminists challenge me (or us) on that one…?

But they will go as far as stating that “Elvis couldn’t even sing…”

„MGTOW at Nr. 6“ – That is just perfect. As Casey Kasem would have said: Debuting at Nr. 6 and on their way to Nr. 1 next week…

Only Elton John was better by debuting at Nr. 1… in 1975.

Hang on. We will spread the word.

Now, it may be OT but it’s actually the same thing. The women I knew in the 70s were also perceiving the music from back then as a threat. Many lyrics of the pop, rock and soul genre became VERY MGTOW and I always collected terrible resentment when I played my music in front of these „household dragons“…

We will make it to Nr. 1!

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[Anonymous]

Yes its fun to watch from the sidelines. A fools game that i finaly quit playing.In the open letter she thanks him for allowing her to shop at off hours. That seems male,so mayby its a put on ,but non the less,if some guys are foolish enough to be lured back to the plantatiin,it doesnt matter what she says until he laws are changed. I want to here that in there tradcon sales pitch. Yea right.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant]

Hitman, been through this s~~~. For what it’s worth:

Finish the f~~~ing divorce ASAP, whatever it takes
Have a parenting plan, and all finances/responsibilities addressed…ensure there is language to modify child support when necessary. Be nice now. As soon as divorce is final, turn on the NO:
Can you help pay ….no
Can you fix…no

Want to come over…no

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[GargamelSpectator]

Yeah, absolutely right…

What you did was perfect. Securing your belongings and stepping away to avoid a false accusation.

Perfect. Grade A. Or „Note 1“ as we say in German.

And remember: Women that start to cry over a stupid argument are mostly „borderliners“. There is extensive literature out there about „The Borderline Syndrome“. Living with one of those could have gotten you killed. No kidding. I was raised by this type of woman.

Actually I found the MGTOW Movement while googling for „borderline“. I just wanted to know a little more about my sister…

She is one of those you must have had as a girlfriend.

And this „type“ only „ducks and covers“ under brute mental force. (Fear, Police, Law, Reputation loss)

And they will do everything to finally win. And then start to cry once the battle seems lost.

And they always turn or circle around the same stupid arguments. All day long and all through the night…

They torture a wealthy man over something costing only a few of „his cents“.

Audio excerpt: „Yeeeaaa but is is for the principle of not being so wasteful !!!!“

…Making you lose business in the order of thousands of Euros because of sleepless nights, still fighting about a jar of ice-cream you forgot to take out of the car.

…No: Without a woman torturing you, you do everything right, making 6 figures. That’s why men can definately live well and happy without them. That is why I still have my full blonde hair at age 49…

(I silently hope that women are reading this)

There is NO POINT IN AGREEING WITH A BORDERLINE. Even if you thought you had everything worked out and agreed opon, they go back to the beginning and start the argument all over. Until you want to get a gun.

With a Borderline there is no limit in the insults they will speak out just to hurt you. No limit on how loud they yell and scream at you…

Sound familiar?

„Look at you, you worthless piece of s~~~, you are no good for nothing“

Living with this type of person is a living hell, and some men would rather burn their house down with her inside…But are so out of self-esteem… And so they commit suicide.

Brute force is only way to go. I had customers going about like that – to avoid payment – and I just said: Good and you lose your life over that… I will fight with you for many years, even showing them my bank statement…

Not a thing that these people threatend to do was done.

If you have a borderline, get rid of her. (At least 65 percent of W.A.L.T.)

They eventually end up as a horse owner or cat lady… But then they cannot do any further harm.

This poster made my cry tears of laughter

Here is one of my true and traumatizing stories:

In my mind I can still hear the artilliery shells going into the ground behind me, the grenade fragments flying all over… And me only getting out of this by miracle…

In late 2002 had a girlfriend like this.

I was extremely nice to her, even wanting to pay for education and drivers licence…

and and and…

But without a committment to become enslaved.

This mostly because I saw how she was flirting around with other guys that were the opposite type of me. That way I could really see what her true preferences of men were like.

Her „twinckle in the eye, behind my back“ – super attraction was: Total underachievers and drinkers with no money, no care, no education, worn out health – Guys that were half as old as me but looked twice their age…

I slowly but surely started to observe and confirm that she was a gold digger in disguise.

Also: She had a very good „verbal disguise“ and it took a good „hobby psychologist“ to look behind her intentions.

Refusing to make big plans, expensive promises, future intentions… And she reverted to her real self.

OMG, they say nowadays… „What have I done?“

She wanted me, the entrepreneur with a 6-figure EURO-income. to give partys with guests like this.
Probably to get me used to watching them f~~~… In my house of course…

I told her that none of these guys will get to see my place for I don’t want to train future buglars…
And nobody will turn my place into a dark brown smokers cave and fill my stereo up with beer…

So she became more and more nagging. But that is funny. She herself had never aacomplished anything in her life. Only drug dealing an making money on men by falsly accusing them of rape…

She must have done this before, because wherever we went, she was looking behind her back… I „pulled it out of her nose“ * that she was involved with drug trafficing and someone was after her.

(* German saying for: Highly intellectual and non-invasive interrogative work in which people suddenly confess to things they wanted NOT to talk about…)

But I think that this „drug thing“ was a lie. What was after her, were probably the men that wanted to take revenge on her for being framed… Or most likely: Falsely accused.

How do I know that? Put 1 and 2 together…

She became extremely disloyal and bitchy, threatening to destroy my stereo-system, my company, everything – so I will have more time for her. (Going out 3-4 times a week was not good enough!)

So she had to go. This was reminding me too much of the violent and stupid women that raised me…

She still had her own place. Reading this forum, I am extremely happy that it went like that. Of course as a „guy with money“ I told her:

„It’s good to keep your place“ having a REAL reason: „You know I work in the public and one day I might bring home a contagious virus… And I love you so much that I would never want anything to hurt you“. Case closed, and with a second thought of knowing where to put her if things don’t work out.

Ohhh that was close. I got rid of her the next morning. Back to her moldy and stinky appartment…

By the way:

It meant nothing to her that „in my place“ nothing smelled and she did not need her bag of asthma medicine… But she got p~~~ed by the existence of my stereo system. That is how stupid women are. They rather die in a toxic and moldy appartment, that they can afford, than tolerating a man and his rather clean, cultural and non-invasive hobbies.

They rather have a shiny and new „rabbit-cage-car“, blocking the highway with it – than „been seen“ in a older model upper class car with plenty of horsepower, fuel efficiency, sound system and safety…

Anyway. she was out the door.

My blessing was:

In the last days of our stay together she wanted me to make love without a condom…
As I was able to hold an errection for hours at a time… When it came to actally „inserting it“ so many second thoughts went through my brain… It collapsed.

I chose to rather be a „sexual deadbeat“ for one stupid woman, than a slave for the rest of my life. A child with a women I was not even sure about…??? OMG.

So the 17×5 reproduction tool went back in the box, saving my life. She was p~~~ed and shamed me… I just told her that „I was good to go for many hours, but you decided too late to f~~~ me in the 4th hour“ (She saw it as her last chance to trap me)

So fortunately no sperm was transferred. OMG, I still live.

Putting your dick in something like this is like throwing a big metal object into the „electric main fuse box“ of your house connection. BAMM, your face is burned for life…

Here is why I am so glad: In following weeks I saw her with another guy – type as decribed above – and it made me confident that she would not stalk after me.

BUT suddenly: I was told (and confirmed) that she accused the brother of her boss for rape…

Oh Man, that guy is „super-gay“ in a steady „man to man“ relationship and that lady wasn’t even his type…. But it took him some 10000 Euros to get out of this. I don’t know how the trial ended, but one thing is for sure: He did not do it. Period.

Reflecting back on my encounter with her: I am a public person. OMG. That would brought her a lot of „blackmail or compensation“ – pocket money and child support…

And she might have ruined my reputation as a trustworthy businessman in my area… Everybody knew me and it could have been disasterous.

But she probably had one big problem: I am a hundred times smarter than her. And I would have „taken her apart“ with my questioning techniques, hinging around the smallest clues and picking on any intricate detail… (She would have gotten caught up in her lies like a rabbit in a labyrinth)

And she must have known what „type of b~~~~ I have in my pants“…

…Whenever she felt threatened by someone „maybe“ following us…

I told her „what I would do“ with someone hurting me like that. Meaning: I have enough money for a silent hitman“. Or I do it myself… I am a multi-field technician, there is no escape… Watch out for a tiny wire on their door or letterbox…

Never talking about her but she could easily guess how unfortunate it will make her doing anything „stupid“ with me.

As an entrepreneur with direct public contact, always carrying thousands of Euros in cash around with me, I had to say things like that, so nobody would dare to touch or attack me.

It worked for almost 2 decades, never had anybody tring to rob or beat me.

That must have been the reason for her to think twice about doing to me what she did to other men.

I was wondering all the time where all the money she had to spend came from. Case closed. It was definately not the wealthy family she elegantly pretended to be from…

A perfect NAWALT: „I don’t need your money because… my family… my father has…“ Bulls~~~!

Her business model failed this time, because she knew that she would end up inspecting the front axle of a sportscar… But not mine… Or tearing a wire on her door…

Since reading the MGTOW forums I call the vagina of a woman: „Her Business Model“.

I can personally relate to every MGTOW story on these forums.

The more and more I read, I finally realize that it is just too much effort to do all that and to put yourself in such danger, only to have a wet and sometimes stinky hole to put your dick in.

If women would learn some kind of personal hygiene, maybe one good man might return to the market. But that is a different story. Maybe I”ll start a topic on that…

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[Linehauler88Participant]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Hello LH88,

It is good to have a Trucker join the forums. Truckers are awesome men and their perspective is realistic and hard earned.

I hope you will continue to share your experiences and improve your knowledge of MGTOW.

It is my wish that you can learn from other MGTOWs and avoid learning the hard way.

Working hard and smart is good, but learning the hard way is crap and foolish.

I have consistently chosen to learn the hard way and now I finally understand that there is a better MGTOW way.

Don’t let the following criticisms discourage you from seeking help here at MGTOW.

Your introduction send up some red flags, as I read it.

Linehauler88 wrote:

I should read this to the marriage conselor next week

Wanting to go to counseling to save your marriage is f~~~ed up and it indicates that you are severely ignorant of MGTOW knowledge.

I suggest that you read more of the Forum posts and digest everything in the Archives.

Also, a good “Introduction” should answer the following questions:

Why do you consider yourself MGTOW?

How did you get here?

What has happened to you since you have been reading and listening to MGTOW ideas?

What are your plans to live as a free man?

Yes, your marriage has forced you to take a “Red Pill” and see Woman’s Nature first hand. But, your introduction implies that you are not yet free of blue pill indoctrination.

Even though a lot of guys vent about their s~~~ty lives (as a result of their continued relations~~~s with women) in the MGTOW “Introduction,” most of your “venting” really should be posted in the “Marriage & Divorce” section of the MGTOW forum where you can expect to get some support.

The tough love provided above is to try and guide you to avoid the suffering I went through.

Thanks for the advice, still kinda learning about mgtow. Not discouraged at all, just wondering if it would be worth it to create a new thread with a proper intro?

[The Manipulated ManParticipant]

Hello LH88,

It is good to have a Trucker join the forums. Truckers are awesome men and their perspective is realistic and hard earned.

I hope you will continue to share your experiences and improve your knowledge of MGTOW.

It is my wish that you can learn from other MGTOWs and avoid learning the hard way.

Working hard and smart is good, but learning the hard way is crap and foolish.

I have consistently chosen to learn the hard way and now I finally understand that there is a better MGTOW way.

Don’t let the following criticisms discourage you from seeking help here at MGTOW.

Your introduction send up some red flags, as I read it.

Linehauler88 wrote:

I should read this to the marriage conselor next week

Wanting to go to counseling to save your marriage is f~~~ed up and it indicates that you are severely ignorant of MGTOW knowledge.

I suggest that you read more of the Forum posts and digest everything in the Archives.

Also, a good “Introduction” should answer the following questions:

Why do you consider yourself MGTOW?

How did you get here?

What has happened to you since you have been reading and listening to MGTOW ideas?

What are your plans to live as a free man?

Yes, your marriage has forced you to take a “Red Pill” and see Woman’s Nature first hand. But, your introduction implies that you are not yet free of blue pill indoctrination.

Even though a lot of guys vent about their s~~~ty lives (as a result of their continued relations~~~s with women) in the MGTOW “Introduction,” most of your “venting” really should be posted in the “Marriage & Divorce” section of the MGTOW forum where you can expect to get some support.

The tough love provided above is to try and guide you to avoid the suffering I went through.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

Hello,

I am in my mid-thirties and would like to give a short introduction before participating in a community. Would like to think i have swallowed the rest of the red pill by now, at least the part that was not forced-fed to me.

Coming from mixed influences having red pill father spared me from the worst. I just could not stand the usual female behavior and was too busy anyway to make something out of my life so i always had really low tolerance level for stupid bulls~~~. I did have severe episodes of oneitis though and that alone made my life miserable at various periods. The blue pill dreams are tempting and comforting.

My last job was the ultimate red pill experience and after walking away i faced a sort of shock which led me first to Illimitable men which i read compulsively, that led me to TRP, which led me to MGTOW reddit and then here. Now i was aware of the nature of women before from my past experiences and i was aware of the PUA concepts years ago. The problem was that i didn’t want to believe in a such game… fool.

The part of red pill i was just partially aware though, was just how much society doesn’t give a s~~~ about man. You read about young men dying in wars and just shrug it off. Disposability of man is a concept which is in my experience ignored by men until the point when they find themselves at cross with society plans. Sure, i was aware that life is not easy. My father is a red pill but with abusive alcoholic past during my youth years. I have worked from shoop floor factory to digging trenches to get myself through college.

Well fast forward 10 years and this guy without penny digging trenches has one of the most “prestigious” jobs in city overseeing 9 figure annual cash flow. That was the final nail in blue pill coffin. Becky Sharp ? Check. Power struggles ? Check. Gold digging women everywhere ? Check. People trying to f~~~ you over ? Check. Psychopaths ? Check. Ultimate apex of all things to be avoided. I walked away unharmed yet with dropped heart. I am just happy that life dozed red pill truths to me at various parts because red pill rage from that would consume me had i been oblivious blue pill mangina.

I find greet deal of freedom in MGTOW philosophy and i see tremendous amount of value in sharing information, experiences and advice.

Cheers.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny