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  • #321426
    Sky-O
    Sky-O
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    I’ve been on here for a while, right after the early MGTOW inception era. I watched the number of members grow, checked in when I had some thoughts to share and/or needed to read the stories of other men that made it out of hell alive and found this amazing sanctuary.

    Figured it was finally time for an introduction:

    Sky-0 Stats. . .

    Former hybrid alpha male, controlled by my own fractured ego, societal expectations, conditioning and that ever intoxicating and hypnotic hole, the vagina.

    Made enough mistakes during my blue pill era to be able to appreciate the perspective and wisdom that has come after surviving those mistakes.

    Journeyed straight into hell at one point. Found myself broken, confused, betrayed, lost and on the verge of giving up. With the last remaining ounce of strength that I had left: I used the blistering fires of hell to reforge the steel that is my soul and I rose up from the depths of my self induced prison, never to return again.

    I’m a self proclaimed last action hero: Rock climbing, skydiving and I enjoy traveling without a defined plan through less than safe third world countries.

    I found this place when I was on the edge of an all consuming darkness. MGTOW has been a life saving source of light. That light spawns from: truth, reason, logic and by default, inner peace and balance.

    A dog was abandoned by a slut at my house when she left to continue riding the c~~~ carousel. Him and I have become one at this point, were destined to meet and form our bond the way we did and he has taught me more about life and love than any clitoral parasite is capable of. He is a 9lb toy breed that has the heart of a warrior.

    Learning to live through constant adaptation. Turning mistakes into valuable lessons. Maintaining a perimeter from any that seek to infiltrate. And taking hold of the flame.

    Deo Vindice

    SKY-0

    #321263
    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    Looks like you’re planning well, C-Pig. I was in Homestead a week after Andrew to look at the Turkey Point nuc plants. There was a lot of hincky s~~~ still going down that the MSM studiously ignored.

    I’m sure you’ve filled the bathtub(s), sink(s), pots w/lids, etc. with water, have plenty of non-perishables on hand, put up the plywood, got the generator, and so forth. Knowing you’ve done all that, let’s talk about staying behind in a mandatory evacuation zone until the order is lifted.

    Basically, you’re going to be a soldier in enemy occupied territory.

    As you’ve noted, you’ve got to worry various LEA, the Guard, the dindus, and other various jackals. Low and slow should be your watch words, brother. So…

    – No unnecessary movement during daylight. Don’t even move your vehicles if you can.
    – If you need to move, limit how far you move in one “bound”. Watch three times as long as you move before and after you move.
    – No fires or smoke. ‘Nuff said.
    – Limit cooking odors.
    – Low or no volume with TVs and radio. Put your TV on closed caption if you must watch it.
    – Speaking of noise, run your generator sparingly if at all.
    – Complete black-out at night. If you need a light, use it in an interior room. Cover all windows with blankets and wood. Cardboard won’t work, it glows.
    – Don’t cleanup your property. Freshly chainsawed trees are a dead giveaway as are brush piles, burn pits, etc.
    – Unless you absolutely need to use your vehicles, don’t clear your driveway. It will tip off LEA and the Guard. It will also entice dindus as they don’t want to walk up to a house to loot it.
    – No sightseeing. Who gives a f~~~ what the neighborhood looks like? Recon isn’t sightseeing.

    Finally, if you need to kill do so without hesitation. Don’t think, don’t even blink. Do it. Afterward, don’t worry about the body. Worry about the gun instead.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #321202

    Greetings Stentorian,

    Thanks for your heart warming introduction.

    …..the reality that for most of my life, I have been completely asleep. Blue pill as can be…

    It is good to finally have words and ideas to process what has and still is happening in a man’s life.

    MGTOW is a great place to explore ideas and develop a plan for the future.

    …My father got f~~~ed by the courts and by my mother…

    Same with mine too.

    My dad gave up the whole house plus half his pension along with other cash prizes. His life story regarding the women in his life can be summed up as “No good deed goes unpunished.”

    My sisters still get bail outs and “Helicopter Rescues” for the numerous emergencies that pop up.

    For the past 35 years, my mother is continuously indoctrinated by television which is a major apparatus of the Gynocracy. Most of my siblings still fight with each other because of her viscous lies.

    My youngest brother #6, who is 37, lost his computer business/ rental properties and has been staying in mom’s basement for the past six months. When he went to watch the Presidential debates with mom and sister #2, he could not contain his joy every time the god emperor Trump put despicable Hillary in her place. Now, I can’t reach him and they may have called the police on him.

    …My father is my best friend. We talk 2-3 times per day…

    Me too.

    However, it took about a decade to undo my mother’s vile character assignation of my father. Sadly, I was too easily manipulated by her and wasted too much time being a momma’s boy.

    But, my dad and I have been best friends for the past thirty years. We have had wonderful times together. We are both musicians and have performed together throughout the USA. He tells me and everyone that I saved his life and he is healthy in his eighties because of my alternative health methods.

    Dad has done most of the things in the following link below. It is an essay about using alternative methods to help battle my cancers. And Dad has been my best student. The hardest part was getting him to use the Bidet adapter. He’s Old School and thought that using it was gay. But, he did it and now he contentedly uses it regularly for optimum health.
    /forums/topic/inexpesive-cancer-cures-and-other-miracle-cures-verses-the-golden-goose/

    What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

    #321039

    Topic: Hey guys

    in forum Introductions

    Hi, everyone, I joined the website last night and wanted to introduce myself. The MGTOW seed was planted after a divorce-rape almost fifteen years ago, so when I lost custody of my children I realized that justice is an illusion. Separated from my children by 500 km and plunged into poverty, I practiced serial-monogamy with several LTR’s while maintaining relevance in my kids’ lives. As my last relations~~~ was winding down I was starting to get tired of the whole game. Almost two years ago I stumbled across Sandman and learned about MGTOW. Six months later I read that men can only have 4 or 5 significant relationships in their life, and I knew that this break-up would be my last. I live alone, or did until recently, my daughter moved in to attend university. The kids aren’t too damaged from the divorce, I don’t think anyway. I’m doing alright, myself, and looking forward to the day that the divorce is truly finalized and I can stop supporting a grown-ass woman. I love this site, it functions well and organized, too, and I look forward to being a part of it.


    Anonymous

    All it needs at this stage is a bunch of self-serving psychopaths on crackers in power. And looking at the state of the planet, chances are, that this scenario is likely going to happen sooner or later. There won’t be too much fighting between brothers involved anymore, the day of standing armies are long gone. This time it´ll be digital warfare, drones and finally ICBMs. Thing is, if those psycho´s would survive their little self inflicted armageddon, they won´t have lots of fun either during nuclear winter. But since when did a hate – filled psycho really bother about such insignificant details?

    Carpe diem, my friend.

    And for those, who are interested in psychology and the nature of evil, this is certainly an interesting read.

    http://ponerology.com

    The original manuscript of this book went into the furnace minutes before a secret police raid in Communist Poland. The second copy, painfully reassembled by scientists working under impossible conditions of violence and repression, was sent via courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged – the manuscript and all valuable data lost. In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication.

    After half a century of suppression, this book is finally available.

    Ha, I doubt they have thought of such details. Thanks! I will have to give that a read for sure!

    Aragorn
    Aragorn
    Participant

    All it needs at this stage is a bunch of self-serving psychopaths on crackers in power. And looking at the state of the planet, chances are, that this scenario is likely going to happen sooner or later. There won’t be too much fighting between brothers involved anymore, the day of standing armies are long gone. This time it´ll be digital warfare, drones and finally ICBMs. Thing is, if those psycho´s would survive their little self inflicted armageddon, they won´t have lots of fun either during nuclear winter. But since when did a hate – filled psycho really bother about such insignificant details?

    Carpe diem, my friend.

    And for those, who are interested in psychology and the nature of evil, this is certainly an interesting read.

    http://ponerology.com

    The original manuscript of this book went into the furnace minutes before a secret police raid in Communist Poland. The second copy, painfully reassembled by scientists working under impossible conditions of violence and repression, was sent via courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged – the manuscript and all valuable data lost. In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication.

    After half a century of suppression, this book is finally available.

    If you change the rules on what controls you, you will change the rules on what you can control

    Scary S~~~ happening in last 24 Hours you need to know about!!

    October 04, 2016.

    Not counting Hurricane Matthew, a lot of events are happening which most people do not know about, or are willfully ignoring.

    It seems that last night, while the U.S. population slept, the Doomsday Clock was moved to One Minute to Midnight. And the only reason we did not have Armageddon last night was that Julian Assange decided not to leak any information about the U.S. government from his Wikileaks organization.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/assange-10-years-of-wikileaks-berlin/

    It seems that in the last twenty-four hours, Russian did a 40 MILLION person nuclear war drill.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/40-million-russians-take-part-radiation-disaster-drill-days-after-us-general-warns-w

    The reason is very simple. Because for the last two months, the people of the western rich 1%, their servants in government, and their sycophants in the TV and radio media, have been pushing to get to the White House, Hillary Clinton, has been blaming Russia very everything under the sun.

    And Russia clearly had a strong believe that those affected by any such leaks might decide to start a nuclear war with Russia to deflect and avoid responsibility for their actions.

    That is not all. That is only the tip of the iceberg.

    Last night, when Mister Assange has his press conference in Europe, the 1% and their servants in industry and government shut down the U.S internet system in the few hours window when Mister Assange’s press conference happened.

    Interesting Coincidence – U.S. Internet Disruption Maps During WikiLeaks Presser…

    Yes folks. The internet was shut down in the U.S. Those whom seek to see us harm have tipped their hand they do have a kill switch on the internet.

    More on this later.

    The U.S. Presidential election is not going the way the 1% had hoped. After openly rigging the DNC primary for Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton’s support has dropped to the point she can not even fill High School gyms for her rallies. At best she can pull together a few hundred people. And most of these people are likely paid to be there.

    Hillary Clinton has no ground game. And she has reached the point of having carefully scripted rallies, the locations and times of which are not publicly announced before the rallies are held.

    Clinton Campaign Panics Over Lack of Volunteers

    It has reached the point that Hillary Clinton is giving up campaigning in a number of important states.

    Such as Ohio. Which was heralded as THE bellwether state for the presidential election, until yesterday, when Hillary Clinton abandoned hope for winning Ohio.

    Now, her sycophants in the media are saying that Ohio is “too white” and “too uneducated” to be a bellwether of the election.

    https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/10/03/is-hillary-clinton-abandoning-ohio-media-downplays-buckeye-states-importance-for-her-electoral-calculus/

    Even thought Hillary Clinton is spending money 50 to 1 in comparison to the amount that Donald Trump has spent in advertising. Hillary Clinton cannot draw a crowd.

    And the only way Hillary Clinton is doing so well in the polls is because the polls are weighted for her supporters, some times in the double digits.

    (“Weighted” means the group favoring the way the poll taker supports is increased in overall numbers in said poll.)

    RIGGED: CNN POLL CLAIMING HILLARY WON THE DEBATE SAMPLED 41% DEMOCRATS COMPARED TO 26% REPUBLICANS

    Meanwhile, Trump is drawing crowds for his rallies in the tens of thousands. Some times twice a day in different locations. With there also being thousands of more people in the overflow areas that could not make it in to the stadiums.

    Donald Trump is cheered by large groups of American people wherever he goes.

    AMAZING! HUGE COLORADO RALLY FOR TRUMP- More People In Overflow Crowd Than at Hillary’s Rallies All Month!

    In response, there are already been signs that the election is going to be rigged by the 1%, their servants in government and their sycophants in the media.

    Homeland Security is already trying to take direct control of the election process from the states. That is not counting the election is done electronically, which everyone agrees can be tampered.

    ‘Homeland’ Elections Czar Picks Sides: Trump Policies ‘Un-American’, ‘Irresponsible’

    We already have examples of election fraud in a number of states.

    Bombshell: Over 1,000 Illegal Voters in Eight Virginia Localities

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-24/dead-people-are-voting-key-swing-state-colorado

    Given the 1% was willing to shut down the internet last night to cover their asses. I have no doubt the internet will likely be turned off a few days before the November 8 election and remain off.

    The media for TV and radio is in complete control by the 1%. They have censored anything politically damaging to Hillary Clinton, while going on nonstop political attacks on Donald Trump.

    Meanwhile, much of the media on the internet is for Donald Trump.

    It is merely academic that a few days before the election, the 1% will shut down the internet for the U.S. to prevent political opposition from forming both before, during, and after the election. Silencing the American people.

    During this time, the media in TV and radio will completely ignore the voices of the people. As they have been. They will do a completely media black on Donald Trump. And they will declare Hillary Clinton the winner of the Presidental election.

    In a case where the rigging of the election is so blatant that no one will believe the election was legit.

    The internet will be continued to remain off for the people. With only electron financial communications allowed. Such as international banking and the stock exchange.

    This will not end well for anyone involved.

    A good majority of Donald Trump supports want Hillary Clinton in prison. In Donald Trump rallies, there is always a vocal number of people chanting, “Lock her up”.

    And Hillary Clinton has made it clear that she views the majority of those supporting Donald Trumpt to “irredeemable” and “deplorable”. She has shown she only has ill intentions towards those whom disagree with her.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/13/irredeemable-clinton-deplorable/

    Society cannot function when a large portion of the people have no respect for the appointed administrator, with the administrator equally disrespecting said portion of people. Especially after said portion of people were denied their political voice as a way to force said administrator into office.

    I do not know how this will play out. But, there will be some sort of response to this naked theft of the election system. Possibly in the form of a peaceful tax revolt. To other measures.

    Though, it will be interesting. Given many major police unions have thrown their support towards Donald Trump. These are the people that 1% will expect to enforce their will against the American people. These law enforcement officers may instead decide to all catch a sudden case of “blue flu.”

    As the legitimacy for the U.S. government, by the American people, swiftly erodes into nothing.
    One way or another, the 1% will decide to play their final card, with them having their servants starting a nuclear war with Russia.

    A war that Russia is right now preparing for. While we Americans are not.

    And everyone agrees on one point concerning Russia. Russia plays for keeps.

    I am looking at this at several angles. And when is comes to us of the American population. If the current corrupt course is continued, we are not going to make it out of this one alive.

    Even if you survive the nuclear explosions/implosions, the radiation, and the scavenging. Eventually, one of the nations that prepared for the nuclear war. Likely either Russia or China. Is going to have their military roll into you little corner of the world and either kill you, or enslave you. And then said military take everything you still have left that is over value.

    Pray they kill you. In such a situation, you do not want to be taken alive. And the surviving women will have it worse.

    And to make matters worse. Even if I am wrong about the U.S. election and Donald Trump is elected president. There are events playing out that could cause the 1% to start World War III even before, during, or after, November 8.

    The U.S. continues to pick a fight with Russia over Syria.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/us-suspends-bilateral-diplomatic-relations-russia-syria

    On top of this, the German Deutsche Bank is all but insolvent. This is one of the big banks of the world that is heavily leveraged. If this bank goes, it will likely take the rest of the western world’s economies with it.

    Then, the 1% will likely start a nuclear war to prevent having the starving populations of the world coming for their hides.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/deutsche-bank-%E2%80%9C-probably-insolvent%E2%80%9D

    This may be it folks. And all because those at the top are so scared of being held responsible for their actions that they would rather take a shot at destroying all humanity.

    If you have any plans. Such as a vacation. Or going to see a friend. You might want to do those plans now. Rather than wait for later. There might not be a later.

    The only silver lining in all this is that it looks like Russia has its ducks in a row. They are as ready as possible for the end of the world. And Russia has become close to the ideal model for western civilization. And the Russian people are known for surviving and enduring hardships. So, if any people would have chance at restoring humanity back to this level. It would be the Russian.

    So, this may not be the end of the world. But instead, one really bad day for everyone on Earth.

    Food for thought.

    #316994
    Awakened
    Awakened
    Participant

    A few days ago, I finally managed to wrestle him away for wings and beers. Good to reconnect, not just over the phone. Not 30 minutes into the meal, he has to get up and go – one of his kids vomited. The kid had been eating crap all morning, no surprise. I told him not to worry, tell the wife to put the kid to bed and give him some ginger ale, and to tell her we will be home in an hour or two. Not good enough. In a fit of panic we have to leave because she ” can’t handle it”. We get back and the kid is up and running around like nothing happened – if it even did

    AWALT. This can be looked at one of two ways. Either she’s your typical jealous controlling bitch, and she just can’t stand letting “HER man” have any time with his friends, or the kid truly was sick and she really is as useless as not being able to handle it. It doesn’t really natter why, because HER man pays the price either way. AWALT

    He has put on a massive amount of weight; we are the same age and he looks 10-15 years older then we are. But, his wife “loves him”…..we have all heard this before.

    When the financial raping comes in about 5 years, their will be a room and beer available for him.

    Unfortunately, your friend sounds like he may not make it another 5 years. He sounds like a prime candidate for coronary issue: overweight, over worked, over stressed etc.

    I feel a little guilt – I am so sad for him, but happy for myself.

    It definitely hurts to see a friend killing himself for a useless women that will undoubtedly have a longer life span at his expense. Hell, he’s probably has a generous life insurance plan as well. It all sucks !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #316936
    Eyeswideopen
    Eyeswideopen
    Participant

    Just to reiterate what’s been said 1000+ times here – but it finally connected on an emotional level for me a few days ago how GREAT it is to be unattached, and free from the whole cart/draft horse experience of modern marriage and children.

    I met with a good friend, we have known each other for the last 30ish years. We lived down the street from each other, went to grade school, high school and university together. We have kept in touch, but girlfriends and later marriage made that less and less frequent. He is a lifelong friend.

    We both got married around the same time, he had children, I didn’t and was left for a Chad. Ironically, as life is, he never wanted children. I did.

    His girlfriend got pregnant “accidentally” the first time, the second child was planned, and the third was another “accident”. He has done well for himself, the VP corporate executive type.

    He has purchased her a huge house, about 900k, paid it off, and she blows through money like water. Of course she never worked. I see him infrequently because he always is busy with “family obligations”. He works 60-80hrs a week to make ends meet. By contrast, I decrease my work obligations as much as possible.

    A few days ago, I finally managed to wrestle him away for wings and beers. Good to reconnect, not just over the phone. Not 30 minutes into the meal, he has to get up and go – one of his kids vomited. The kid had been eating crap all morning, no surprise. I told him not to worry, tell the wife to put the kid to bed and give him some ginger ale, and to tell her we will be home in an hour or two. Not good enough. In a fit of panic we have to leave because she ” can’t handle it”. We get back and the kid is up and running around like nothing happened – if it even did. She then tries to sweet talk me into finding a good women and having the “wonderful life they have”. I say some nice pleasantries but have to bite my tongue not to say that it’s only a fantastic life for her.

    I don’t blamed my friend. He is trapped. He knows it, acknowledges it, and agrees with the MGTOW concept.He will never have a moments piece and is truly trapped in blue pill hell.

    He has put on a massive amount of weight; we are the same age and he looks 10-15 years older then we are. But, his wife “loves him”…..we have all heard this before.

    When the financial raping comes in about 5 years, their will be a room and beer available for him.

    I feel a little guilt – I am so sad for him, but happy for myself.

    Cheers brothers

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein


    Anonymous

    Hitler had to attack Russia because if he didn’t, Russia would had invaded first and occupied Europe.

    That’s true. The Soviets had attempted the same in 1920 – even before they were in full control of Russia – only to be stopped on the Vistula by Poland. A year earlier, Poland had invaded to assist an independent Ukraine and tried to take Kiev. Trotsky, the creator of the Red Army, saw a golden opportunity to take the revolution to Europe and counterattacked. Considering the fact that there was a soviet government in Bavaria, endemic unrest in Germany, and all sorts of chaos in what had been the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Soviets had a very good chance of occupying much of Europe.

    It was a preemptive strike and a forced move – Hitler had no prior plans of opening that front

    Never read Mein Kampf, have you? Hitler lays out all his plans for Lebensraum, the occupation and colonization of eastern lands out to the Urals. Hitler wrote it in 1924.

    And by the way, contrary to what you might believe and been taught in school – nuclear bombardment of civilians in Japan was not what won the war (the was has already been won at that point)

    The war had been won, but Japan refused to surrender. It was the atomic bombings and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria which finally convinced Hirohito to break the deadlock, order a surrender, and record the surrender broadcast. Even then, factions in the Imperial Army – acting for the Emperor’s own “good”, a common theme in Japan’s history – assaulted the Imperial palace trying to find the recordings and seize Hirohito. The only thing that stopped then was civil defense responses to a US bombing mission which occurred at the same time.

    … it wasn’t necessary…

    It was, actually.

    … it was the biggest war crime and atrocity in the history of humankind.

    Score a laugh point. The US killed more Japanese dropping napalm on Tokyo the night of 9-10 March 1945 than in both atomic bombings combined. Japan killed more people in the Nanking massacre in 1937 than died in the atomic bombings. Conservative estimates place the monthly death toll in Japanese-occupied Asia at 250,000.

    The war was won, but Japan wouldn’t quit. It had to be made to quit and the bombs helped do that.

    I know this is a controversial opinion…

    It’s not controversial, merely incorrect.

    … but that’s the conclusions I came to after reading tons of history books

    Seeing as all that reading didn’t familiarize you with Mein Kampf or Lebensraum I wouldn’t boast of it too much.

    Oliver Stone, and many others would strongly disagree with your opinion.

    He and others are of the opinion that the bombs were dropped so that the U.S. can lead/bully post-war, and all evidence points to that considering what the U.S. has been doing worldwide, that is imposing itself on and destroying sovereign nations who did nothing to their neighbors. It was a strategic move to ensure dominance post war.

    Your opinions are that of a dinosaur who makes money off wars. And that is what you are.

    Stone details it all in this 5 part documentary.

    #316202
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    I had a friend that went through this till it killed him. She demanded bigger nicer house, he bought it for her. After a few months, “I hate this place! Let’s remodel.” She starts at one end and remodels the entire house; not just easy stuff either. Very expensive interior renovations. A few years later she says ” I hate this place! It’s time to move up!” They buy a bigger place; same thing again. ” I hate this place!” They remodel the new place stem to stern for thousand and thousands of dollars. A few years later, again, ” I hate this place!! I can’t stand to live here another minute!!”. They buy a place so big it has two water heaters and HVAC units. She fills it with the most expensive antique furniture you’ve ever seen; looks like a palace. Then what happens? “I HATE this place!” So the renovations begin – $40,000 for the kitchen, $30,000 for the bathroom; it went on and on and on. Then she wanted botox, tummy tucks, boob jobs, new SUV every year.

    Sadly, the only way he could escape her insatiable greed was death.

    And I have seen this happen all around me too. I think like 5 times that married men hung themselves with a string. One of them I even heard “live” on my first police radio tuner. One morning in 1987 and it happened 10 houses away from here…

    Sad. But one pack of red pills “on ex” like “tic tacs” down my throat.
    .

    Me in a relationship?

    Whenever a women raised her voice just once, I snapped. She didn’t hear the snap, but it was like those gates of a medieval castle closing.

    Women can play “comrade” for quite long. They show their inner world the moment something that belongs to them gets compromised. Fix their PC and tell her that the hard disk “went pop” and that all of her data is lost… If she “goes off” on you, close the gate… Then tell her that you managed to recover it and give her back her PC. But the “uncontrolled bitching” in the middle was her “glitch” in fooling you. In a shock situation, she was too distracted to play companion and fake her personality. AWALT… (Happened to me not long ago)

    I was always like this, the more she nagged, the slower I moved. Till the point that I was laying on the bed just laughing. Telling her, that she “is the poor girl” without education and that she is not in position to bitch.

    “I do what I can do and if it is nor good enough for you, then go and get one man that does it for you. I will never be good enough for you anyway.

    And see her go.

    The first time a man gives in to a s~~~ test, he has lost it all. Her endless wishes get bigger and bigger.

    Tell her up front that marriage is out of the equation…

    And when she sees that “this” man “will not grow up”, she slams the door and you have saved your life.

    My rescue was, that I had lost respect towards bitches from my childhood days on. People that push around, nag, swear and yell are to be seen as powerless and they deserve to be laughed about and not to be taken seriously anymore.

    Men are programmed by their mothers to obey a yelling and pushing woman.
    And if he doesn’t have this “dog leash” anymore, they consider him “not grown up”.
    A “grown up man” is one that obeys his nagging woman unconditionally.

    That is what they mean by “Man up”.

    In German, they yell: “Werde endlich erwachsen!”. (Finally grow up!). And they say that to a 6-figure business man. Women don’t even “get it” when they behave in a totally ridiculous manner.

    I had so much of this treatment, that on one hand, my knees start shaking and my heart rate goes up… And on the other hand – and at the same – time I go: “F~~~ all, let’s ride this storm out, the wench cannot really hurt you.” “Let’s see who is stronger.”

    And then she is suddenly up against an IQ that she never met.

    Abuse by women was so terrible that I was pushed over the edge so many times that I now know how to explode without showing them any weakness.

    All of her plans “in doing good for me” are erased and she bangs the door.

    Most of my “beginning relationships” ended before we got to the bed part.

    Seeing her get the typical “compulsive controlling behavior” during the dating phase made me lose interest.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    Hitler had to attack Russia because if he didn’t, Russia would had invaded first and occupied Europe.

    That’s true. The Soviets had attempted the same in 1920 – even before they were in full control of Russia – only to be stopped on the Vistula by Poland. A year earlier, Poland had invaded to assist an independent Ukraine and tried to take Kiev. Trotsky, the creator of the Red Army, saw a golden opportunity to take the revolution to Europe and counterattacked. Considering the fact that there was a soviet government in Bavaria, endemic unrest in Germany, and all sorts of chaos in what had been the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Soviets had a very good chance of occupying much of Europe.

    It was a preemptive strike and a forced move – Hitler had no prior plans of opening that front

    Never read Mein Kampf, have you? Hitler lays out all his plans for Lebensraum, the occupation and colonization of eastern lands out to the Urals. Hitler wrote it in 1924.

    And by the way, contrary to what you might believe and been taught in school – nuclear bombardment of civilians in Japan was not what won the war (the was has already been won at that point)

    The war had been won, but Japan refused to surrender. It was the atomic bombings and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria which finally convinced Hirohito to break the deadlock, order a surrender, and record the surrender broadcast. Even then, factions in the Imperial Army – acting for the Emperor’s own “good”, a common theme in Japan’s history – assaulted the Imperial palace trying to find the recordings and seize Hirohito. The only thing that stopped then was civil defense responses to a US bombing mission which occurred at the same time.

    … it wasn’t necessary…

    It was, actually.

    … it was the biggest war crime and atrocity in the history of humankind.

    Score a laugh point. The US killed more Japanese dropping napalm on Tokyo the night of 9-10 March 1945 than in both atomic bombings combined. Japan killed more people in the Nanking massacre in 1937 than died in the atomic bombings. Conservative estimates place the monthly death toll in Japanese-occupied Asia at 250,000.

    The war was won, but Japan wouldn’t quit. It had to be made to quit and the bombs helped do that.

    I know this is a controversial opinion…

    It’s not controversial, merely incorrect.

    … but that’s the conclusions I came to after reading tons of history books

    Seeing as all that reading didn’t familiarize you with Mein Kampf or Lebensraum I wouldn’t boast of it too much.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #316048

    What’s your take?

    I have learned how to laugh and have fun with others during s~~~ tests.

    “A Laughing Judge is not a Hanging Judge.”

    The first part of my training was memorizing and rehearsing some “Magic Bullets” or statements to disarm hostiles.

    The next part was the ability to laugh at myself when I f~~~ed up or demonstrated weakness.

    Finally, I learned how to tease others, especially those with lofty ideals and unrealistically high standards.

    Your mate opened himself to all sorts of mockery with his bulls~~~.

    Between us MGTOWs, here is what came up for me as I read about your situation:

    Before Christianity, some of my Celtic Ancestors believed that a boy only became a man when he killed his first enemy.

    Today a lot of veterans consider the military as the only true path to Manhood.

    For most of my life, I have fallen short of others expectation of “Manhood.”

    My higher intelligence and creativity were part of the problem.

    Having pink skin and red hair was another liability with modern
    “Cultural Enrichment.”

    The strange synthetic hormones and toxic food/ environment also made me weak and pusillanimous.

    The brain washing from the media, educational institutions, organized religions, and Gynocracy was relentless. Since birth, I was trained to be a “White Knight,” Mangina, fool, and wage slave.

    Spending too much of my life working/ living in a big city added to my difficulties.

    The indoctrination did not always work, since I have too often seen the world differently and could only handle the objective truth which was also a problem.

    As a young man, I allowed others to shame me about my pussification which compelled me to “prove myself.”

    I did all that “Manly” handyman/ Tradesman bulls~~~ because I had to and there were only worse choices. It only made me a Dupe. I would rather have done something else.

    I was in Blue Pill hell for too long.

    Your “friend” sounds like one of the “Planation’s” foremen.

    It is bizarre how a Blue Pill man will attempt to castrate another man.

    Learning to change a tire is irrelevant these days with cell phones and too many other options.

    And I haven’t had to change a flat tire in twenty years of driving many miles through rough areas.

    castration

    What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

    #315787
    Chaff/Flare
    Chaff/Flare
    Participant

    The scorched earth / smear campaign secretly starts way before the relationship ends.

    They are calculating and once they realize they want to check out, they start planting the seeds of their plan early on. So that when they finally bail out, they have laid out an already existing foundation to launch from in terms of being able to turn family and friends against the guy they were with.

    A man is usually struggling with the breakup (because he has a soul capable of experiencing pain) and trying to process what happened: the lies, manipulation and mind-fckng he was subjected to that he is unable to also deal with the shock and awe bombardment of the tactical bulls~~~ she was running just prior to her leaving.

    Then when he is in a very dark place, shattered, broken and confused:

    She is off somewhere, smirking and sadistically enjoying the damage she left behind. And with no remorse or empathy, grabs the new guy’s c~~~, wraps her mouth around it and starts sucking.

    And for awhile, the new guy thinks he’s on top of the world just like all of the previous ones. He gets her attention, initially some porn induced sex and becomes ensnared in her web of lies and narcissism.

    Although it always ends the same.

    They are twisted, sadistic, evil and ultimately very predictable.

    Perfect SkyO, just perfect. It is true, a mans soul cannot fathom the evil.

    When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

    #315777
    Sky-O
    Sky-O
    Participant

    The scorched earth / smear campaign secretly starts way before the relationship ends.

    They are calculating and once they realize they want to check out, they start planting the seeds of their plan early on. So that when they finally bail out, they have laid out an already existing foundation to launch from in terms of being able to turn family and friends against the guy they were with.

    A man is usually struggling with the breakup (because he has a soul capable of experiencing pain) and trying to process what happened: the lies, manipulation and mind-fckng he was subjected to that he is unable to also deal with the shock and awe bombardment of the tactical bulls~~~ she was running just prior to her leaving.

    Then when he is in a very dark place, shattered, broken and confused:

    She is off somewhere, smirking and sadistically enjoying the damage she left behind. And with no remorse or empathy, grabs the new guy’s c~~~, wraps her mouth around it and starts sucking.

    And for awhile, the new guy thinks he’s on top of the world just like all of the previous ones. He gets her attention, initially some porn induced sex and becomes ensnared in her web of lies and narcissism.

    Although it always ends the same.

    They are twisted, sadistic, evil and ultimately very predictable.

    #315766

    Topic: My story.

    in forum Introductions
    Yorick
    Yorick
    Participant

    Hello all. I haven’t really had a forum I could discuss this, until I found this site. I am 40, have 4 boys under 20, and I am married to their mother, the first marriage for both of us. I worked my ass off finishing college and then grad school while married with children when younger, and at the same time took my wife and children out for fun and on regular vacations. I’ve never been rich, but I sacrificed any extra money and sent my kids to private elementary school, because I wanted them to have the best start in life I could give them. We had a great life, or so I thought. And then tragedy hit. One day, out of the blue, she was upset and said she didn’t know if she loved me anymore, or didn’t know if she was in love with me. It was a shock, out of the blue. She said she was crying randomly, and couldn’t think, and another guy that was hitting on her recently had made her feel good again. I was completely devastated, shocked, and panicked. She had seemed off a little starting a few months prior. Based on some of the facts and an online google search of her behavior, I guessed that she was suffering from depression. About 6 months prior, she lost her godson/nephew that she helped raise, to a drug od. Same day our eldest son was hospitalized with a life threatening illness, which left him hospitalized the entire week. After he was released, the day after the funeral, she had a miscarriage. I realized that those events caused a clinical depression, and got her on meds the day after she dropped that bomb on me. But by that time, it was almost too late. It took a lot of thought, and research, but I realized that there is something called Depression Fallout, which is bizarre and unfortunate circumstance of living with a loved one with depression. That year, 2013, was the worst of my life. She never drank for the first 14 years of our marriage, but suddenly started going out to the bars with other friends who were single or getting divorced. I found texts of her interest in other men. I was begging her to go to marriage counseling, but she really was just a different person from the person she was just a year earlier. Like night and day. I later figured out that she is also an Adult Child of Alcoholics. That has its own set of characteristics, many of which are problematic for living with. But I was raised in a household that does not believe in divorce. And I said that, if my wife was acting strangely because she had cancer, would I leave her? I looked as her depression and sudden bizarre behavior the same way. For the record, I do realize the selfish contractual nature of women’s pursuit of men and marriage. But I blame our culture’s wealth and socialism for ruining that bargain, by encouraging women to be independent and depriving men of their bargaining power though public welfare and child support, while at the same time teaching women that depravity is virtuous. But back to my story. I was tortured by my wife’s sudden madness and apparent intent to throw me out. We had bought a fixer upper, which I was fixing up myself. She pretty much told me not too, because she didn’t want me to move in, when she and the kids moved in. So she felt guilty that I was doing the work. She was going to try to have it done herself.But I kept working, and ignored her desire to discard me. I was well aware of the life she was planning for me. I would be living with my parents, paying a huge child support payment, and alimony. Then I would become the dead beat dad, because I couldn’t make enough to support two separate households. And if I hit bad luck, I could be thrown in jail. And I would have the privilege of visiting with my children on weekends so she could go whoring at the bars. Then she would find a new hero, no doubt with more money than me. And I would really be a dead beat schmuck with the kids then. Thrown out of my castle, disgraced in the eyes of my children and society. I would not accept that. Yet she was hot and cold, and I could not handle the level of insanity that I was forced to endure. I could not figure out a happy ending. I did not want to kill myself, but I did not want to keep living that life, constantly on the bleeding edge of insanity. Then one day, while sitting in the bathroom in a state of numb confusion, I had a thought like a bolt of lightning. I still do not know if it was inspiration or insanity. And it is not really the MGTOW answer. But part of me feels I took back sovereignty of myself and my life, after being adrift for over a year in her ship of insanity that she captained while I was tied to the mast. But it led me out of the darkest hour of my life. It was the first real joy I had felt in year. I felt free. I realized I did not have to live the life she had planned for me. The rejection, kicked out of my own house, my own family, disgraced to my children, and an indentured servant. I could not kill myself. But I also did not have to continue to live. I decided to go on a hunger strike, until death, unless she relented. I read up on the Irish hunger strike, and started drinking water with a little sugar and salt in the mornings, and nothing but water after that. It became apparent after a few days. After a week, people really became worried. But she was not relenting. I guess she thought I was bluffing. I’m not sure if I was or not. At that point, I really didn’t have any great love for life. The truth is, I still do don’t. That was a bitter pill to swallow. When our marriage counselor found out, she said it was extortion. I told her I don’t care. It was extortion for her to decide what my life was going to be, without my input or consent. No one could force me to live that life. The only thing I had any control over was my own existence. And if she felt guilty about my ending that, good. She should. She should have felt guilty about a lot. I liked the idea of everyone blaming her for my death, and her finally feeling something like remorse. But if she only acted out of her maternal instinct to protect her children from losing their father, that was ok, too. I really didn’t care if I lived or died at that point. There is something so remarkably liberating about feeling indifferent about death. It was my life, and I would live it as the king of my castle, with honor and dignity, or I would not live it at all. Death before dishonor was my mantra at that point. I was finally in control of my life again, and felt great. After day 10, when the children found out, she relented. 10 days may sound like a long time to go without eating, but the hunger pretty much goes away after a few days. That was a few years ago. We have a surprisingly normal life today. She is still on medication, though she had a couple bouts of insanity the few times she tried to stop taking them. And she has been attending meetings for Adult Children of Alcoholics. The children are doing well, and have the benefit of being raised by both their mother and father, and don’t have to witness a revolving door of men visiting the house. I don’t know what she really thinks or feels, but she acts pretty normal. As for me, I’m just doing what I gotta do to live and raise the boys, while trying to make our family life as happy and healthy as possible. Part of me hoped she wouldn’t back down, and my life would end. It was a harsh reality to realize that, as Poe said, “all I’ve loved, I’ve loved alone.” But I guess I can’t complain. It could always be worse. I know my life is not the ideal of liberation and self-directed living that MGTOW promotes. But I did not want to live the life of a “dead beat dad” and be her life-long slave, without any of the benefits of being a father and member of a family. Mine was an odd response. But I felt that maybe if men start going on hunger strike and dying for the right to be respected and honored, and women have to start burying their sons, fathers, and brothers, maybe then people will wake up. I was more than willing to make that sacrifice, to show my sons there are some ideas worth dying for. Crazy stuff. Life is a hell of a thing to happen to a person. Thanks for listening. This is the first time I’ve been able tell this story an have someone listen that may understand.

    #315504
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    In my experience, being single is a blessing, but sometimes it’s depressing.

    It’s a good thing to have my own personal space (my apartment), and to manage my money (without someone else spending it). But it’s a challenge to be self-reliant. There are times when I wished someone would pick me up from work when my car is in the shop, help me pay the bills, or just hang out with me when I’m going places.

    Interesting thought.

    I often wonder if men invented washing machines, microwaves and dishwashers to make their women’s/wives lives easier? Or their OWN.

    What you’re talking about here is companionship. You don’t need a “woman” for those things. In fact you can’t even RELY on a woman for those things. Women are not interested in helping you with self-reliance or making it easier.

    In their minds, you are a man who exists to assist HER with those things.
    Not the other way around.

    That’s right. The very things you could actually USE a woman around for, are the very things she expects FROM you — and resents you for — when you really need her most for actual “support” and help.

    Women will not be “there for you”.
    You are expected to be their for HER.

    I don’t really enjoy putting it to you this way, but this is what I tell myself when I am having a similar thought: “Snap out of it, Keymaster. If you think some kind of equitable balance is achievable here, you are SORELY mistaken”.

    Once, I took a female on a really great road trip. Through the desert, page Arizona, saw a bit of the Grand Canyon, national park and Las Vegas. I did everything. I drove. Filled the tank. Surprised her. Planned it all. Paid for everything. Booked everything ahead of time. She was blown away.

    Finally we are relaxing poolside in the sun at the hotel in Vegas.
    AAAAAAHHHHHHH.

    I said “Can you please go get us a drink. Charge it to the room and take my wallet in case you can’t”.

    She says…..

    “In a few minutes. I just want to relax here for a bit.”

    So I said…..

    “Let me put put to you anther way. After all I have done these last few days, entertaining you and carting you around at my expense….. Let me rephrase. Go. Get. Me. A. Drink. And something to eat. RIGHT NOW. I’ll have the crocodile sandwich. And make it snappy.”

    That’s what it took to make the point.
    ONLY THEN did she begin to understand.

    As far as I am concerned, she should have JUMPED at the opportunity when I asked her for that one thing. After what I did for her, if asked her to cluck and lay an egg, she should have happily squatted and asked “what color?”. But women just don’t see it that way.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #315445
    Deadly Raver
    Deadly Raver
    Participant

    What’s the bet they shut down porn first

    Women would never allow that. Porn affords a woman with no skills, talent, training, education , brains or ambition to earn as much as a doctor – and support her own bastard kid – with nothing more than what god gave her.

    Porn and whoring is a huge industry women RELY on to make a living!

    Take that away are you kidding? Will never happen.
    It’s called “the oldest profession” for a reason.

    Porn lowers the price men pay, and sure while a select few women cash in, overall Porn is a detriment to keeping men on the plantation.

    Take porn away, and MEN will lose on MASS, sure a few porn stars will complain but the hive will be happy, that’s my line of reasoning anyway.

    Then those strong independent attention whores can post all those selfies.

    http://i.imgur.com/KlTzz3T.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/94QXEGB.jpg

    Take away porn, and I see this happening in the future.

    A most lucrative “Homebrew” business emerging and growing throughout the U.S. and then the world.

    A lot of men finally losing it and not only turning on Feminists, but actively attacking them. Streets of blood, and it won’t be that time of the month either.

    Being a politician would become a far more dangerous job as people begin to finally realize exactly WHO is responsible for the problem.

    Mass boycotting of……………..well, just name it. Ain’t nobody trying to have this bulls~~~ censorship pushed upon them and I imagine this would finally break the camel’s back.

    SJWs would become an endangered species that is hunted and beaten up on sight. Anita Sarkeesian would most likely be hanged alongside her friends like Emma watson and big red………………….So it ain’t all bad.

    I have a feeling that by the end of the year we’ll know what’s true and what isn’t. If Obama is truly foolish enough to do this, I imagine his retirement will be closely followed by his funeral.

    Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

    #315292

    In reply to: Running away

    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    Only three years into that four year waiting period? Excellent! That means you’ve got a year to plan and prepare.

    I’d be selling off possessions and really minimizing my “footprint”. I’d be looking into other places to live too. Not across town, but across the country and quite possibly out of the country. I’d definitely be looking at new jobs and new careers in that new place.

    I’d be ready for that final signature on that final legal document. Once the pen lifted from the paper, I’d be gone. Any attempts to contact me by anyone in my old life would be through my lawyer. Cell, email, social media, gone, gone, gone.

    You’ve been given a chance to disappear and begin anew. All you need to do is reach out your hand.

    Start preparing for your new life, brother.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #315274
    K
    Hitman
    Participant

    iv’e seen this before,
    and watched it again.
    this man is apparently speaking the truth.
    this war of ideologies is a long term conflict.
    .
    Russia is a giant machine .
    they have no tolerance for the bulls~~~ we are surrounded by.
    .
    American’s have let our society decay.
    we need the courts to reverse the feminist/globalist agenda.
    or his final words will become reality.
    .
    Feminism will be discarded in the “brave new world order ”
    there’s a kick in the teeth to all the lib-tards.
    .
    probably learning Russian is the best plan !!! Haaahhaa!!!!!!

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