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I dont think either West or Russians wanted to carry war any further. Most units on both sides were heavily depleted of manpower …only airforces and navies were at good strength.
The moral just wasnt there to go on longer.
Hitler had to attack Russia because if he didn’t, Russia would had invaded first and occupied Europe.
That’s true. The Soviets had attempted the same in 1920 – even before they were in full control of Russia – only to be stopped on the Vistula by Poland. A year earlier, Poland had invaded to assist an independent Ukraine and tried to take Kiev. Trotsky, the creator of the Red Army, saw a golden opportunity to take the revolution to Europe and counterattacked. Considering the fact that there was a soviet government in Bavaria, endemic unrest in Germany, and all sorts of chaos in what had been the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Soviets had a very good chance of occupying much of Europe.
It was a preemptive strike and a forced move – Hitler had no prior plans of opening that front
Never read Mein Kampf, have you? Hitler lays out all his plans for Lebensraum, the occupation and colonization of eastern lands out to the Urals. Hitler wrote it in 1924.
And by the way, contrary to what you might believe and been taught in school – nuclear bombardment of civilians in Japan was not what won the war (the was has already been won at that point)
The war had been won, but Japan refused to surrender. It was the atomic bombings and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria which finally convinced Hirohito to break the deadlock, order a surrender, and record the surrender broadcast. Even then, factions in the Imperial Army – acting for the Emperor’s own “good”, a common theme in Japan’s history – assaulted the Imperial palace trying to find the recordings and seize Hirohito. The only thing that stopped then was civil defense responses to a US bombing mission which occurred at the same time.
… it wasn’t necessary…
It was, actually.
… it was the biggest war crime and atrocity in the history of humankind.
Score a laugh point. The US killed more Japanese dropping napalm on Tokyo the night of 9-10 March 1945 than in both atomic bombings combined. Japan killed more people in the Nanking massacre in 1937 than died in the atomic bombings. Conservative estimates place the monthly death toll in Japanese-occupied Asia at 250,000.
The war was won, but Japan wouldn’t quit. It had to be made to quit and the bombs helped do that.
I know this is a controversial opinion…
It’s not controversial, merely incorrect.
… but that’s the conclusions I came to after reading tons of history books
Seeing as all that reading didn’t familiarize you with Mein Kampf or Lebensraum I wouldn’t boast of it too much.
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OK, you got me Old Bill, I never read Mein Kampf in entirety. Hitler must have had plans to go east, but he didn’t want to open the eastern front this early
It wasn’t the biggest atrocity but it still was an atrocity and not something wonderful like they tell here in school.
You definitely know what you’re talking about and I tip my hat, but bombing civilians is a terrible war crime and there is no way I’m changing my position on this, regardless of what somebody else did to somebody else before.
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I have to laugh, this thread started being related to women, and has now developed into far more productive and intelligent conversation. I actually have some tears of laughter in my eyes as I’ve realized this.
Talking about war or women? What’s the difference? I don’t know.
But this has a deep psychological meaning. We were taking about state or government oppression, taking away our human rights, martial law…
Anything dictatorships can and will do to civilians.
Like the draft or forced marriage.
So this triggered our deepest feelings towards history. And those of us that have actually experienced oppressive governments will link this topic to war in their minds.
So women reading this, can take pride in us shifting the conversation to war at the thought of having to marry one of them…
So there you are, we were not “off topic” at all:
Forced Marriage, sleeping with a land whale = Draft, going to war for king and country
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Anonymous24Hitler had to attack Russia because if he didn’t, Russia would had invaded first and occupied Europe.
That’s true. The Soviets had attempted the same in 1920 – even before they were in full control of Russia – only to be stopped on the Vistula by Poland. A year earlier, Poland had invaded to assist an independent Ukraine and tried to take Kiev. Trotsky, the creator of the Red Army, saw a golden opportunity to take the revolution to Europe and counterattacked. Considering the fact that there was a soviet government in Bavaria, endemic unrest in Germany, and all sorts of chaos in what had been the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Soviets had a very good chance of occupying much of Europe.
It was a preemptive strike and a forced move – Hitler had no prior plans of opening that front
Never read Mein Kampf, have you? Hitler lays out all his plans for Lebensraum, the occupation and colonization of eastern lands out to the Urals. Hitler wrote it in 1924.
And by the way, contrary to what you might believe and been taught in school – nuclear bombardment of civilians in Japan was not what won the war (the was has already been won at that point)
The war had been won, but Japan refused to surrender. It was the atomic bombings and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria which finally convinced Hirohito to break the deadlock, order a surrender, and record the surrender broadcast. Even then, factions in the Imperial Army – acting for the Emperor’s own “good”, a common theme in Japan’s history – assaulted the Imperial palace trying to find the recordings and seize Hirohito. The only thing that stopped then was civil defense responses to a US bombing mission which occurred at the same time.
… it wasn’t necessary…
It was, actually.
… it was the biggest war crime and atrocity in the history of humankind.
Score a laugh point. The US killed more Japanese dropping napalm on Tokyo the night of 9-10 March 1945 than in both atomic bombings combined. Japan killed more people in the Nanking massacre in 1937 than died in the atomic bombings. Conservative estimates place the monthly death toll in Japanese-occupied Asia at 250,000.
The war was won, but Japan wouldn’t quit. It had to be made to quit and the bombs helped do that.
I know this is a controversial opinion…
It’s not controversial, merely incorrect.
… but that’s the conclusions I came to after reading tons of history books
Seeing as all that reading didn’t familiarize you with Mein Kampf or Lebensraum I wouldn’t boast of it too much.
Oliver Stone, and many others would strongly disagree with your opinion.
He and others are of the opinion that the bombs were dropped so that the U.S. can lead/bully post-war, and all evidence points to that considering what the U.S. has been doing worldwide, that is imposing itself on and destroying sovereign nations who did nothing to their neighbors. It was a strategic move to ensure dominance post war.
Your opinions are that of a dinosaur who makes money off wars. And that is what you are.
Stone details it all in this 5 part documentary.
Anonymous24OK, you got me Old Bill, I never read Mein Kampf in entirety. Hitler must have had plans to go east, but he didn’t want to open the eastern front this early
It wasn’t the biggest atrocity but it still was an atrocity and not something wonderful like they tell here in school.
You definitely know what you’re talking about and I tip my hat, but bombing civilians is a terrible war crime and there is no way I’m changing my position on this, regardless of what somebody else did to somebody else before.
I was thinking about this more last night and came to a few conclusions for myself-
1) U.S. is likely not the level of hero’s I thought they were considering they only lost 400k vs Russia’s 25 million or so if they needed to nuke civilians to end the war because it was so unbearable. So the U.S. being the saviors of the world is a f~~~ing joke. And my Grandfather barely made it out of the war alive fighting for the U.S. and I still say this… I have been feed lies since I was a child from Hollywood. I wonder why?
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2) Oldbill proves himself to me to be nothing more than an old man with old ideas, some so disgusting that he would justify the use of Nukes on civilians. And, once again, this does not surprise me coming from a man who makes money from war.
Also, my last grandmother I just buried recently was there when we dropped the bombs. I have heard the entire story firsthand. She was also old enough at the time (10) to know very well what was going on and her memories of it and the aftermath were very vivid.
In my OPINION, it is the biggest chump move in the history of mankind.
1) U.S. is likely not the level of hero’s I thought they were considering they only lost 400k vs Russia’s 25 million
Russia lost 25 million because before the war their generals were promoted more for party loyalty than for military competence. They also had a backwards monarchist economy replaced by a backwards communist economy. The only thing they had going for them against the industrial acumen of Germany was population and acreage, and when you try to fight industry with population, you’re going to lose a LOT of population.
or so if they needed to nuke civilians to end the war because it was so unbearable.
The U.S. nuked Japan because they didn’t want to continue killing Japanese. The Japanese leadership was all in favor of fighting to the last man, woman, and child to try to hurt the victorious U.S. as much as possible. The bomb was intended to show them that their total and complete annihilation was possible with no significant additional harm to the U.S. Even at that it took a second bomb and a coup in the Japanese government for them to abandon their national kamikaze fantasies and see reason.
The bomb was also intended as a warning to the Russians that when the war was over, it was OVER, and Soviet post war expansion, possibly continuing the war with reshuffling of sides, was no longer an option.
tl;dr: The bomb saved lives by ending the war with Japan and turning a potential war with Russia into a cold war instead of a hot one. Deal with it.
To be fair, it was probably Iwo Joma that forced the Americans use of the A bomb.
US took just as many casualties then as the Japanese ( tho there’s were mostly KIA ) . Calculating that forward to the planned upcoming invadion of Japan they could see the potential for a million casualties.
Hence the use of the bomb.
Anonymous241) U.S. is likely not the level of hero’s I thought they were considering they only lost 400k vs Russia’s 25 million
Russia lost 25 million because before the war their generals were promoted more for party loyalty than for military competence. They also had a backwards monarchist economy replaced by a backwards communist economy. The only thing they had going for them against the industrial acumen of Germany was population and acreage, and when you try to fight industry with population, you’re going to lose a LOT of population.
or so if they needed to nuke civilians to end the war because it was so unbearable.
The U.S. nuked Japan because they didn’t want to continue killing Japanese. The Japanese leadership was all in favor of fighting to the last man, woman, and child to try to hurt the victorious U.S. as much as possible. The bomb was intended to show them that their total and complete annihilation was possible with no significant additional harm to the U.S. Even at that it took a second bomb and a coup in the Japanese government for them to abandon their national kamikaze fantasies and see reason.
The bomb was also intended as a warning to the Russians that when the war was over, it was OVER, and Soviet post war expansion, possibly continuing the war with reshuffling of sides, was no longer an option.
tl;dr: The bomb saved lives by ending the war with Japan and turning a potential war with Russia into a cold war instead of a hot one. Deal with it.
Uh, yea I understand your first paragraph. However the Russians had s~~~ weapons vs. the Germans, and that is the main reason why they lost so many. They lost and suffered the most facing the Germans by a longshot, therefore they are the Hero’s of WWII to me.
I however disagree with your second paragraph’s conclusion. We did not need to drop the bombs. Stone spent years making that 5 part documentary, and I agree with his assessment. I agree with his assessment that Japan was nearing the end with the Russians crushing them in Manchuria and the dropping of the bombs was only done to enhance U.S. position after the war.
Also, the killing of civilians en mass is a war crime. I will never justify it for any side in any war.
What would I do if the government someday forces marriage on me?
I’ll convert to Islam, and I’ll say: “four wives, or nothing”
Then I would put one against another at the minimum sign of disrespect.
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The U.S. nuked Japan because they didn’t want to continue killing Japanese.
Too true, sadly. The population of the Home Islands was already down to less than 1000 calories a day and, with the loss of Manchuria to the USSR, that was going to drop even further. The blockade the USAAF and USN were arguing for in place of an invasion would have seen mass starvation exacerbated by the coming winter and the destruction of the rail net.
The invasion would have been even worse.
The Japanese had correctly determined where the US planned on landing; first Olympic on Kyushu to gain airbases and staging areas, then Cornet on either side of the Izo Peninsula and Tokyo Bay aimed directly at Tokyo itself. They’d positioned the armies they had left with those landing sites in mind.
Japan’s leadership was boiling pine roots for airplane fuel, “arming” civilian brigades with bamboo spears, and even issuing satchel charges for children to use against tanks. They were also getting ready to unleash Unit 731 on any invasion force. (I’ll leave it to the reader to google Unit 731 and what it did.) The US and it’s allies would be facing something like 10K planes, mostly kamikaze types, plus suicide boats of various types.
The USSR would be involved too. The planning had the Soviets landing on Hokkaido from the Kuriles. I wonder what a Japan and Tokyo divided like Germany and Berlin would look like?
The rule of thumb learned during the island hopping campaign was that you needed at least 3:1 odds against defending Japanese troop and that you’d suffer KIAs/WIAs/MIAs in direct proportion to the number of Japanese troops.
On Kyushu, the target for Olympic in November of ’45, Japan had roughly 545,000 troops while the Allies would be using about 800,000. The US planned on needing 750,000 replacements by the end of ’45. The US also planned on using as many NINE atomic bombs for the invasion and having US troops advance through those areas within a day of their being nuked. The effect of radiation and the other aspects of the bombs weren’t guessed at yet.
The Cornet invasion of Honshu in February of ’46 would have seen over a million Allied troops facing a similar number Japanese troops plus their ‘civilian” defense brigades. Of course the Japanese would have starving for 6 additional months by the time so the invasion might have easier. /sarcasm
Even at that it took a second bomb and a coup in the Japanese government for them to abandon their national kamikaze fantasies and see reason.
The bomb, the coup, and the loss of Manchuria.
The bomb was also intended as a warning to the Russians that when the war was over, it was OVER, and Soviet post war expansion, possibly continuing the war with reshuffling of sides, was no longer an option.
Thanks to Fuchs, Hall, and other 1940s SJW assholes, Stalin knew more about the bomb than Truman had prior to FDR’s death.
The Soviets knew about the bomb. Along with helping force Japan to surrender, Hiroshima and Nagasaki proved to the Soviets that the US would use the bomb.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous24I know this is a controversial opinion…
It’s not controversial, merely incorrect.
tl;dr: The bomb saved lives by ending the war with Japan and turning a potential war with Russia into a cold war instead of a hot one. Deal with it.
Beware of men who try to present their opinion as fact.
Uh, yea I understand your first paragraph. However the Russians had s~~~ weapons vs. the Germans, and that is the main reason why they lost so many. They lost and suffered the most facing the Germans by a longshot, therefore they are the Hero’s of WWII to me.
Suffering the most casualties is not a sign of heroism. It’s a sign of incompetent leadership.
I however disagree with your second paragraph’s conclusion. We did not need to drop the bombs.
Yes, we could have slogged it out with island invasion after island invasion coupled with mass fire bombing raids and enormous amounts of destruction thanks to the Japanese policy and philosophy of “no surrender”. We could have thrown away countless millions upon millions of lives, both American and Japanese.
Yes, we could have done that and won the war that way.
But massive casualties are not a sign of heroism. Massive casualties like that are a sign of incompetent leadership.
The bomb really was the best option. You are a fool to think otherwise.
And even with the bomb it still took a second bomb and a coup in the Japanese leadership for them to cut their losses by admitting defeat. That’s how we know it was necessary.
Also, the killing of civilians en mass is a war crime. I will never justify it for any side in any war.
Well aren’t you the precious pollyanna.
War is not a game. It is not played for morality points. Treating it like a game as you do only ever makes wars take longer and cost more, including in civilian lives. Sacrificing millions of civilian lives because you don’t have the stomach for a few thousand is monstrous and cowardly.
Beware of men who try to present their opinion as fact.
Just because you don’t know the facts doesn’t make statements from men who do know into opinions.
Anonymous24This is just my opinion, you are an asshat, have a nice day.
To avoid jail I might would marry a woman. But, I wouldn’t touch her. I would set up a room the way I like with a strong door. I would go to work, come back and go in that room and shut and lock that door. I wouldn’t say hi or anything else to the woman. I might have to get married but it doesn’t mean I have to interact with the woman. ZFG
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
I would set up a room the way I like with a strong door.
Rather 2 strong doors. One of my friends was attacked in his sleep multiple times by his bitch. She was the strong 80 kg type and busted in the door to his bedroom. 2 doors mean that you have time to wake up when she tries to come in and hit you in your sleep.
I might have to get married but it doesn’t mean I have to interact with the woman.
I would drive her completely crazy. At the end of the day, she will behave like a cat.
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This is just my opinion, you are an asshat, have a nice day.
And I’m fine with that, because just like all your opinions, you have absolutely no facts to back it up.
Anonymous24This is just my opinion, you are an asshat, have a nice day.
And I’m fine with that, because just like all your opinions, you have absolutely no facts to back it up.
You are an absolute clown. Seriously, you win #1 clown of this site for me.
Watch Stone’s documentary for my OPINION on the matter. I already explained it here previously.
Your facts do not mean your conclusion is fact, and the fact that you think your facts makes your conclusion a fact makes you an ASSHAT of EPIC proportions. Fact. In fact, I use the SAME facts to draw MY conclusion/opinion.
Are you seriously this stupid? Really, cause I am astonished at this point. At this point it is an honest question. If you are mentally handicapped in some way, let me know, cause I will lay off.
Also, you and Oldbill must be fine with what happened on 9/11 if the same logic is applied there as well.
Sick f~~~ers.
You two are not worth any more of my time here. However if I see you two pushing opinions as fact I will continue to point out s~~~ behavior like that in the future.
Here, this should keep you and Olbill busy while I am missing from this thread from hear on out.
You are an absolute clown. Seriously, you win #1 clown of this site for me.
Watch Stone’s documentary for my OPINION on the matter. I already explained it here previously.
You just can’t help but dig your hole deeper, can you?
Oh, and Oliver Stone is a deeply biased and prejudiced filmmaker who uses controversy and conspiracy theory to sell theater tickets. He is not a documentarian of any reliability, nor a historian of any sort whatsoever.
You would do well to stop trying to use his pablum as any sort of source.
Anonymous24He is not a documentarian of any reliability, nor a historian of any sort whatsoever.
The documentary was made by Stone and Kuznick, a historian.
And once again, both parts of your sentence are opinion, but I am sure you think they are facts…
I am very concerned for your mental health at this point. You should talk to someone about it. Completely unable to separate fact from opinion, and now in the case of Stone’s documentary, you formed an opinion without even investigating it. Classic Asshat move of a man holding on to his beliefs so strongly that he slams the door on other men’s opinions completely as you and Oldbill have done in this thread starting with Ruskky.
Men like you and Oldbill who adamantly push opinion as fact should be collectively thrown in the trash by all of mankind. It is the behavior of a dictator.
Get f~~~ed already you clown shoe wearing tryhard wanna be dictator.
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