A Possible WW3, to be a Parallel of The Great War?

[Anonymous 0]

I have noticed quite a few similarities between what lead up to The Great War and what is going on now. I love to study history in my free time and i have been studying The Great War since I feel it to be much more important than any other war in history. The Great War is a product of technology and politics gone rampant coupled with militarism/imperialism. We seem to be facing those things right now. History repeats since humanity/nations as a whole fail to learn from it, at least long term.

I do not expect this to be a popular thread, with a lot of folks but its my observations and I was wondering if anyone is seeing these similarities as well. This is strictly from a perspective from inside the USA so I cannot attest to what others see in other nations.

Some similarities I see to list some: The Balkan Powder Keg is very similar to Western world involvement in Syria/Middle East currently.

Militarism is rampant these days. Militarism leads to fascism time and time again. You think after such bloody conflicts of the past humanity/countries would be more cautious and reasonable about sending people to fight someone else’s war or any war for that fact. The militaries today spend vast amounts of citizens’ tax money arming up and recruiting. However the USA and much of the rest of the world are not at war. Military culture is preached as a pinnacle of being/manliness in the USA today. Seems like blue brain wash to me just to bolster recruitment, similar to propaganda of The Great War. Along with ass kissing of every current and former service member in a cult-like-worship. It is as if they could do no wrong.(that has held true 90% of the time in my eyes) It makes me want to puke. Especially since the USA has not been at war since Vietnam. The country is not fighting a war for it’s existence/sovereignty. What it is facing is the backlash of poor foreign policies for many years and incompetent “career politicians” aka global business controlled pawns. The USA’s military today is nothing more than The World Corporate Global Profiteering Expedition Force of Oceania used by multinational business to secure their interests and end resistance to them. All at the cost of American lives and tax dollars and under the pretense of “defending the free world/USA”(can I say propaganda again? Propaganda was mastered in The Great War, 100 years ago.). There are reasons for a nation to go to war and its citizens to be grateful of the troops doing what must be done. Current events do not in my mind constitute such action/behavior now, since the USA seems to have accomplished it goals in Iraq and Afghanstan as a whole. Of course there will always be resistance to the Western world in that region. The West is the invader and threat to their culture and way of life as they see it. So why are more people and tax money being sent to the meat grinder in a far off land?

World politics seem to be more and more unstable with high volatility. I.E. The USA’s election s~~~ show, Clinton’s constant antagonization of Russia. Similar to the early 20th century political mentalities/imperialism and other international p~~~ing matches of the day.

The build up of treaties/organizations and such as the Central alliance and Triple Entente, alliances that drug nearly the entire world into war over one country’s premature and foolish actions did a hundred years ago. *cough cough* NATO, the UN? I can see those being used to drag countries of the world into someone else’s war. *cough cough* Israel and or Russia.

The Russians are preparing for nuclear war. The Russians mobilized large military units before declaring war in 1914.

Germany is conscripting doctors and urging civilians to have supplies to prepare for “disaster”, what for is not stated exactly. What I have read makes the general statement “For any type of emergency”. At the time of The Great War Germany had quite the professional military and second ranked navy of the seas.

I think if a third world war were to break out it would be fought in the Middle East, when/if fought on the ground, and come down to West vs East world at core value. The UN would be dissolved or only working for the Western cause. It would be a no rules war of everything horrible the governments could conjure up just as The Great War was. International law would have no bearing. It would be total war. Perhaps it would be a war of missiles, drones and cyber-warfare. I do think there would be soldiers on the ground.

Not that I am worried about these things, and if they would lead into war, too much. I have my plans that my way takes me as I am sure most other here do. These are a few of the similarities I see and was wondering if anyone else does, history tends to repeat. If this has been discussed before I had no idea.

[Anonymous 0]

Russia’s nuclear preparations and Germanys conscription are somethings I came across but did not investigate too far so take that with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous 25]

I agree, there’s a lot of warning signs that things are leading up to a war. GDP fell below a certain level about a year ago and the only two times it’s done that in history are before the first and second world wars.

There’s one MAJOR difference this time though.

A lot of men now have zero interest in fighting to protect their women.

I suspect a lot of men from a lot of the Westernised countries would refuse to fight. The Governments are going to have a real problem on their hands.

If women want to give me a white feather, I will laugh at them and wear it with pride.

Sisters can go fight and die in any third world war

[TuneoutParticipant]

Russia likes to test the Wests resolve,like during the Cuban missile crisis but I believe because of MAD they are too smart for an all out conflict that could escalate.

What concerns me is the way OPEC is pumping out their oil without limits in an attempt to undercut other oil producing nations. A short sighted goal IMO because some experts have said that many OPEC countries have already reached Peak Oil in their reserves.

Now nobody likes to go from a have to a have not and when taken to a national level it will be a disaster.
We will see unrest in the middle East like never before,of course Israel will be caught up in it and then Big Brother
USA will have to intervene which I believe will start a chess match between them and Russia.

If you think the refugee problem is bad now,just wait,at least here in North America we have the Atlantic between us but I feel sorry for Europe in this scenario.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Anonymous 0]

Great points! Nerevar had a post in the Central forum about war dream and stated almost the exact same. If there was such a war and most western men did refuse to fight, for example here in the USA there are FEMA camps (concentration camps at the ready) I would imagine they would be in full swing stocked full of “cowards, traitors, terrorists,” ect.
“Arbeit macht Frei”
Or do you think that in such a scenario men would be refusing in such large numbers that they would not be able to make such possible? Just another hypothetical dynamic possibility

[Anonymous 0]

So you think it would become more of a p~~~ing match war/resource war? I could see that.

[Anonymous 25]

Anonymous wrote:

Or do you think that in such a scenario men would be refusing in such large numbers that they would not be able to make such possible? Just another hypothetical dynamic possibility

Large enough to make a difference. 17,000 is enough to lose a war. The country also has to police and feed them and that takes up resources.

It would likely result in the Government saying “ok, we will be nicer to men after the war”. Men will respond with “f~~~ off, we’re not falling for that crap, you will backtrack after the war”.

The only way out is to conscript women.

One way or another Governments will have to learn a hard lesson about how to treat men in times of peace.

[Anonymous 0]

Perhaps I am thinking on to grand of a scale here. Perhaps this is leading to a much smaller conflict than I am thinking but if so I would think it to be very high value.

I guess this is a topic that could be “what if”-ed to death and then some. I appreciate all the responses, discussion is the best way to develop my opinions and views.

[AragornParticipant 277]

All it needs at this stage is a bunch of self-serving psychopaths on crackers in power. And looking at the state of the planet, chances are, that this scenario is likely going to happen sooner or later. There won’t be too much fighting between brothers involved anymore, the day of standing armies are long gone. This time it´ll be digital warfare, drones and finally ICBMs. Thing is, if those psycho´s would survive their little self inflicted armageddon, they won´t have lots of fun either during nuclear winter. But since when did a hate – filled psycho really bother about such insignificant details?

Carpe diem, my friend.

And for those, who are interested in psychology and the nature of evil, this is certainly an interesting read.

http://ponerology.com

The original manuscript of this book went into the furnace minutes before a secret police raid in Communist Poland. The second copy, painfully reassembled by scientists working under impossible conditions of violence and repression, was sent via courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged – the manuscript and all valuable data lost. In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication.

After half a century of suppression, this book is finally available.

If you change the rules on what controls you, you will change the rules on what you can control

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

SoylentGeneration wrote:

Or do you think that in such a scenario men would be refusing in such large numbers that they would not be able to make such possible? Just another hypothetical dynamic possibility

Large enough to make a difference. 17,000 is enough to lose a war. The country also has to police and feed them and that takes up resources.

It would likely result in the Government saying “ok, we will be nicer to men after the war”. Men will respond with “f~~~ off, we’re not falling for that crap, you will backtrack after the war”.

The only way out is to conscript women.

One way or another Governments will have to learn a hard lesson about how to treat men in times of peace.

I did not see it that way. Thanks, thats great. I understand that in that case through your point they would have to conscript women then.

Do think the feminist movement would divide on that issue or bite the bullet as a whole with the old “we can do it” slogan? Would the result of a majority female veteran force then create worse treatment of and for men after a war? I would think it would, women are already mean and sinister enough on the whole. Couple that with ptsd military training and battle experience and the violence done unto men by women would increase and intensify dramatically compared to current trends. As far as I see that at this point.

[Anonymous 0]

Aragorn wrote:

All it needs at this stage is a bunch of self-serving psychopaths on crackers in power. And looking at the state of the planet, chances are, that this scenario is likely going to happen sooner or later. There won’t be too much fighting between brothers involved anymore, the day of standing armies are long gone. This time it´ll be digital warfare, drones and finally ICBMs. Thing is, if those psycho´s would survive their little self inflicted armageddon, they won´t have lots of fun either during nuclear winter. But since when did a hate – filled psycho really bother about such insignificant details?

Carpe diem, my friend.

And for those, who are interested in psychology and the nature of evil, this is certainly an interesting read.

http://ponerology.com

The original manuscript of this book went into the furnace minutes before a secret police raid in Communist Poland. The second copy, painfully reassembled by scientists working under impossible conditions of violence and repression, was sent via courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged – the manuscript and all valuable data lost. In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication.

After half a century of suppression, this book is finally available.

Ha, I doubt they have thought of such details. Thanks! I will have to give that a read for sure!

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Anonymous wrote:

I did not see it that way. Thanks, thats great. I understand that in that case through your point they would have to conscript women then.

Do think the feminist movement would divide on that issue or bite the bullet as a whole with the old “we can do it” slogan? Would the result of a majority female veteran force then create worse treatment of and for men after a war? I would think it would, women are already mean and sinister enough on the whole. Couple that with ptsd military training and battle experience and the violence done unto men by women would increase and intensify dramatically compared to current trends. As far as I see that at this point.

Read this link here most women do not want to go to war or be drafted. Since women are in the majority they are saying no. If you read the comments those who are for the draft of women are men and those against are usually female with men commenting with them as well like the manginas they are.

http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-women-be-drafted

[HitmanParticipant]

If ww3 were to happen, there are enough blue pill men to serve.
Feminists would lose 90% of their women if female conscription began. .
White knights and manginas would likely protest the conscription of women. .
The inevitable loss of life, mostly men would cause a man shortage. .back to the kitchen bitches. ..
In the event it goes nuclear, that would be a wrap for the planet. .

[Anonymous 42]

WW III Ye Haw rid em cowboy! Ye Haw!

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

In the years before WW2 world saw only two wars, Italy vs Ethiopia and Japan vs China. Currenly there is major war between major powers in Syria, there is proxy war between Russia and west in Ukraine. Then there are many small scale wars (Yemen, parts of Africa, parts of South America), ISIS.

So yeah, it is as explosive as it gets allthough i think we will never see WW2 scale warfare again. It will be either peaced out earlied or everything will go to hell in nuclear flames.

Good point on conscription, people are more aware, but i still see how majority gets manipulated easily and is shooting MGTOW “deserters” on the streets.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[sonofthedestroyerParticipant 318]

Keep an eye on India and Pakistan. Tensions have been escalating. India has announced plans to launch an invasion into Pakistani owned Kashmir. Pakistan lacking the conventional military power to fend off India has threatened to use its nukes in defence. India has also threatened to fire its nukes. China has already promised to support Pakistan. Russian troops are currently training in Pakistan. Indian prime minister has been making visits to America. Possibly to get their support. The situation in Kashmir is extremely dangerous for the world at the moment.

[Anonymous 0]

Rhino wrote:

SoylentGeneration wrote:

I did not see it that way. Thanks, thats great. I understand that in that case through your point they would have to conscript women then.

Do think the feminist movement would divide on that issue or bite the bullet as a whole with the old “we can do it” slogan? Would the result of a majority female veteran force then create worse treatment of and for men after a war? I would think it would, women are already mean and sinister enough on the whole. Couple that with ptsd military training and battle experience and the violence done unto men by women would increase and intensify dramatically compared to current trends. As far as I see that at this point.

Read this link here most women do not want to go to war or be drafted. Since women are in the majority they are saying no. If you read the comments those who are for the draft of women are men and those against are usually female with men commenting with them as well like the manginas they are.

http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-women-be-drafted

Thanks for the link, that was a good view to observe. Lots of true inequality basing in the opinions against drafting women. If they can vote for war they can be drafted into war.

[Anonymous 0]

Freeman_K wrote:

So yeah, it is as explosive as it gets allthough i think we will never see WW2 scale warfare again. It will be either peaced out earlied or everything will go to hell in nuclear flames.

Good point on conscription, people are more aware, but i still see how majority gets manipulated easily and is shooting MGTOW “deserters” on the streets.

I hope your right about never seeing that scale of war again, I also hope the majority of conflicts can be solved peacefully myself. There are reasons for a fight but honestly I see it as a last resort option.

The thought police are really good at manipulation these days. people are so easily manipulated now these days without their knowing, its a bit scary. I still do have a strong inkling that MGTOWs refusing to fight would be getting the sort end of the stick by the ignorant masses of sheeple.

[Anonymous 0]

sonofthedestroyer wrote:

Keep an eye on India and Pakistan. Tensions have been escalating. India has announced plans to launch an invasion into Pakistani owned Kashmir. Pakistan lacking the conventional military power to fend off India has threatened to use its nukes in defence. India has also threatened to fire its nukes. China has already promised to support Pakistan. Russian troops are currently training in Pakistan. Indian prime minister has been making visits to America. Possibly to get their support. The situation in Kashmir is extremely dangerous for the world at the moment.

Wow, I was not aware of this escalation on the world stage! Good report, and thanks for pointing that out. Quite a dangerous affair. I would hope the USA would tell India to screw off, doubt it though. I am quite sick of seeing my tax dollars go to other whinny ass countries that can not take care of their own problems that they created. That creates no obligation in me or the USA’s government.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

WW III Ye Haw rid em cowboy! Ye Haw!

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Haha! That gave me a good chuckle.

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