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    Hello and a great morning to all of my Manhood Ball Recovering Brothers
    “We all know the saying honesty is always the best policy” right? And that saying is usually impressed upon us as children to tell the truth no matter what, with one exception, our relationships within ourselves IE: we know beyond any shadow of any doubt that the massive land whale next to us face has been hit with the ugly axe just about one to many times, and all that caked on frosting called make up is not going to enhance anything on this beast except to draw attention to the mountainous mounds of flesh inbetween her ears called cheeks, and honestly you do not find anything about her attractive, but still we will tell ourselves that we dont want to hurt her feelings and in that moment we will undoubtably try to find something to say to her after we heave our guts out noticing that there is a french fry, thats probably a few weeks old, protruding out from the fleshy flabs of skin near her arm pit.
    Again if you have a fetish for that kind of woman , more power to you, cause you gonna need all you can get to feed and fill the belly of that beast.
    Both of the women I married were land whales, the first one not really when i met her , but by the time I left her she was 5’2″ bordering on 300 pounds, the second about four inches taller and 300+ pounds, there was always that 18 pounds that was constantly leaving then coming back, like she had a baby and didnt realize it everytime she stood on a scale. And in the minds of these “people” ( loosely used term), their weight gain was always my fault. I would constantly hear “why in the hell do you like candy so much, you know it only tempts me into EATING it”. So what do i do , I accommodated their fantasy and stopped bringing sweets
    into the home. My 132 pound body could stand to loose a few pounds anyways right? So no more sweets, maybe that will help her dieting efforts, when the truth was if the bitch wouldve stopped downing gallons of ice cream before going to bed, or secretly in the middle of the night, she may have deflated down to a reasonable and attractive size, but instead I suffered, sacrificed, gave up for “her” cause. I wasnt being very honest or helpful with myself.
    After my stint with being an EMT I decided I wanted to go and tryout 18 wheeler driving. Drove across the nation to Ohio and attended another school in which a person was schooled in the art of big rig driving. Within a month and you were on the road moving 80,000 pounds of freight back and forth across this nation one load at a time. I loved it, I traveled and saw most the states in the lower 48 including our nations capitol, “its this whole other country” . Something I had always wanted to go and take a peek at. I did that job for 6 months until my team driver decided he wanted to go solo, I was left without another driver and my kids were on the west coast and the company wanted to keep me on the east coast doing dedicated routes. I took their truck back to them and promptly returned home.
    The bitch had been going to school to become an EKG technician, and i was fine with that , she would finally be able to help out with the expenses that up until that point had been left to me and her mother( thats another story for another time).
    A month before i had left for Ohio I had gotten myself fixed, I had determined that I didnt want any more kids and was satisfied with my own decision and had it done despite the noisy protests from the bitching mouth.
    Men make no mistake about this that is certain states a woman can destroy your unborn babies, get their tubes tied and cut with or without your permission, but you do not have those same rights, California laws require both partners to be in agreement before a man can decide to not have any more children if thats what he desires.
    Back on topic sorry bout that. After I returned home I and the Bitch went to pick up our children from school, I decided to go down a certain raod that wouldve cut three miles off of the trip back home, but the Bitch literally asked me why i was going down the street I had chozen which was a route I had used many times previously before leaving to Ohio. I asked her why not take this street? Her reply was that that street went into a part of town she didnt want to be seen in since she was going to class now. But that just didnt make sense, so despite her I took the sensible route.
    My trust in the bitch and my naivity prevented me from going into details as to the real reason why she didn’t want to be “seen with me”.
    I would not understand that incident until after I left her.
    Shortly after that incident the Bitch said she wanted to go and do studying with a fellow Male class mate, and when I protested she explained that he was gay and i had nothing to worry about, they were just going to study EKG s~~~. His name she said at the time was Arthur, no biggy until after we seperated she immediately had a new love interest whos name happened to be Art!!!!
    My Manly Ball Recovering Friends throughout that relationship I had clues, there were tell tale signs, for instance, when she called me and asked me if I had had sex with anyone outside of her because her eye doctor was concerned for the clamidia he found in a viral test from her eyes. My immediate response was the truth, absolutely not, no way, why would I, I wouldn’t be unfaithful and havent been. But some how that STD got into her eye b~~~~, but my brain wouldn’t allow me to go where it naturally wanted to go, and accuse her. One of the many sayings thats true is hind sight is 20/20, but I think it is more 20/15, because things become more than just clear they become obviously, heinously, painfully clear.
    I trusted her and in my denial tunnel vision, “my vagina” vision, I never considered that she would ever cheat on me, would never try to fond someone else to bed down with, based on this fallacy , that I would never cheat on her. Sometimes the truth is harder to bear then a fantasy, but in reality we must face it, draw away our own beliefs and consider this honest statement “anyone is capable of doing anything with everyone”, and here is the obvious things to observe, she tosses your hand off of her when you want sex, you go months without sex, she moves her mother in with you for moths on end, and continuously denys you sex based on the possiblity that her mother might hear you, or walk in on you. In your arguments she tells you exactly what and who she wants to have sex with, Big black man, another woman, your best friend, or she shoudve been born gay. These are indeed things she is using to hurt me , but they are truths about things she has already done or is planning on doing.
    Even writing this stuff still hurts and draws emotions out of me that I have never shared before, not because of the truth of it all, or even her intent. What hurts me is the investment of my energy, time and finances the emotional abuses I put up with, the loss of my most treasured precious things on this planet, my relationship with my children, and sometimes facing that can be soo hard to do , but if i am to be honest with myself, the truth sits as it is, where it is and nothing anyone can do today will change any of those facts or undo the pain associated with those facts. So we either except those facts and move on or stay drenched in our woes.
    But as I put clarity in the same basket with honesty, I understand this one thing, that although what was presented to me, was nothing but falsehood after falsehood one right after the other, was i supposed to have the gift of readiing the stupid bitches mind, was it my fault, this bitch and piece of trash could not be honest with me or with herself?
    Was it my fault that she couldnt and didnt remain faithful…….. If I am to cling to “the best of policies” then the honest truth must win out every time.
    Living with in a lie will only perpetuate that lie until you have deceived yourself into a state of such delusion that you cannot tell the difference between either.
    I dont think that any man in this forum who has bitten at the bait of marriage ever goes into it thinking that within a few years Im going to divorce the nasty land whale bitch this person will eventually become.
    The red pills efects force us into intraspection, to honestly look at how the things we missed sent us spiraling downward into the life sucking abyss called marriage, and male female relationships for us as men!
    My young men MGTOW if i were you looking at all the destruction, dissatisfaction , and mental , emotional abuses that us older men have endured by the females of our species, I to would run away from this stinky pile of s~~~ and do just as you smart young men are doing. As raw and hard as this gets to express to you , it is not done for your entertainment, it is to do as the older men days long since passed would do with their youth, teach and instruct, so that you will become much stronger and better prepared for the life ahead of you, so our mistakes and trageties will not continue to be repeated, over and over and over again, these things, favors, nuggets of wisdom and knowledge we have aquired through our labors, trials, experiences and errors we share with you for the benefit of and to your sons for generations that follow you , if you and they make it that far !!!!

    Sincerely : Steve

    #390575

    In reply to: Pussification

    Experienced
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    An almost 50-yo post-wall acquaintance of mine who is in the final stages of killing off her 3rd marriage spent the majority of last fall giving any of us brave enough (or interested enough) the blow-by-blow of sending her last child, a son, off to college.

    Shopping for stuff for his dorm room….. Moving him….. Attending freshman orientation with him…. Taking a week’s worth of food to him every weekend…. And spending every weekend with him….. And going to college town and demanding school officials do something when he had roommate problems….

    Bragging to me, I told her I wasn’t impressed in the least and that it was time for her to back out and time for him to man up and start living on his own and that as long as mommy is there to fight his battles, he’d remain hopelessly dependent (which is most likely the overall plan). That sent her into orbit but not as much as when I sent her a pair of scissors for Christmas and a nice card indicating that they are the perfect tool for cutting apron strings. She didn’t use them for that, but it did get me off her friends list on social media such that I care.

    The new semester started last week. The son has moved back home, washed out after one semester. Not working, not looking for work and free to spend every waking hour with mommy who attends to his every need.

    Guess women today are not content to merely wreck the lives of husbands, boyfriends and side c~~~s.

    That’s exactly what the laydeez’ plan is.
    Laydeez f~~~ it up with a man, and then USE his son as their man.
    Sick.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #390456

    Anonymous

    An almost 50-yo post-wall acquaintance of mine who is in the final stages of killing off her 3rd marriage spent the majority of last fall giving any of us brave enough (or interested enough) the blow-by-blow of sending her last child, a son, off to college.

    Shopping for stuff for his dorm room….. Moving him….. Attending freshman orientation with him…. Taking a week’s worth of food to him every weekend…. And spending every weekend with him….. And going to college town and demanding school officials do something when he had roommate problems….

    Bragging to me, I told her I wasn’t impressed in the least and that it was time for her to back out and time for him to man up and start living on his own and that as long as mommy is there to fight his battles, he’d remain hopelessly dependent (which is most likely the overall plan). That sent her into orbit but not as much as when I sent her a pair of scissors for Christmas and a nice card indicating that they are the perfect tool for cutting apron strings. She didn’t use them for that, but it did get me off her friends list on social media such that I care.

    The new semester started last week. The son has moved back home, washed out after one semester. Not working, not looking for work and free to spend every waking hour with mommy who attends to his every need.

    Guess women today are not content to merely wreck the lives of husbands, boyfriends and side c~~~s.

    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    Doesn’t manning up’ and ‘doing the right thing’ mean to go your own way?

    Yes it definitely does and that’s the dead end street for every shaming argument I ever had with women.

    I always asked them:

    Who do they like more? A successful and educated professional or an obedient low-earner?

    And then women tell you how much they admire your accomplishments and “what has become of you” and then you ask them back if you would have grown and matured the same way with “a woman to support”…???

    That normally ends the argument because it’s non disputable.

    They have to agree with you…

    Of course, then you get the perfect NAWALT speech seconds later.

    But you ask them back if they know one women personally that would “put up with a self-governed and self-determined man”?

    And live with the fact that he doesn’t need a babysitter?

    And love him?

    And be loyal to him?

    And stay with him when times get hard?

    That triggers their own personal negative spirit and they shut up and never shame you again. Because they fear of you digging deeper and deeper until they start to cry…

    (“Been there and done that”, women can’t look in the mirror without crying)

    By simply asking them these innocent and non-political “shaming questions” in return, you expose their nature. “Water works” included.

    By innocently asking them “Do you know one woman that loves and respects the man who supports her” you make their hamster go through all of the s~~~ that they have in their head and then they see how vile and repulsive they are. And that everything they think, do and say is evil and retarded.

    You show women that you “know them” and that you will never go to the plantation no matter how much they shame you… And that they only trigger you to speak out things that they rather not want to have said in public or in front of their men.

    Maybe her “beta cuck” in the next room hears you say the truth about women (after they p~~~ you off by shaming you in front of others “one too many times”) and he says to her the next day… “Oh, he is right, I see that I’m just your fool… I’m leaving!”

    They are afraid of the “walking and talking mini MGTOW website” that they might “open” in front of their own exploited husbands. And afraid to lose their wallet…

    Sometimes men need the final trigger to snap and go their own way. And most of the times, this is final.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

    #390261
    Nordman
    Nordman
    Participant

    I am most overwhelmed over the warm welcoming! I already feel strengthened! Thanks for taking time and sharing good advice and your own experiences!

    You are in what I call the Realization stage. I was there a few years ago. Divorce will surely follow, unless she lulls you back onto the plantation somehow. I can tell just by what you wrote this story only gets worse. Plan for escape!! I’m finalizing divorce myself. I feel freedom on the other side after 20 years. It is calling my name.

    Yup, that’s the stage I’m in. I’m planning for the escape. The ironic thing is, as a part of the plan, I play along with her power play completely for the moment, not arguing or claiming any justice or fair game; and as a result things are pretty calm and cosy. I guess she’s thinking we’re doing rather good right now. Well, we are not! It’s just me getting ready…

    Hello Nordman, welcome to the site.

    If you already lurk here you will know we can be a bit harsh to put some sense into someone’s head, so I will start by saying:

    WTF!!!

    Thanks for the welcome! I do appreciate straightforwardness and honesty, and also the WTF 🙂

    Let me tell you two things that you are missing: self-respect and an healthy dose of NFG (no f~~~s given).

    Very true! I am a bit afraid that when I eventually get out, the true realization of my missing self-respect will hit me with full force.

    The hardest part for me was accepting how easily I allowed myself to be manipulated and seeing the cold blooded methods used by the women I loved.

    That’s exactly what I find (and yet will find even more) hard!

    You know what would be poetic justice? If the next time she throws you out of the house you didn’t come back. Just doing what she wanted…

    I am truly sick and tired of her drama sessions saying and doing things she doesn’t really mean. Like getting out of the car in the middle of nowhere, starting to walk away… Then after eleven phonecalls and thirteen textmessages I have to find her wherever she’s gone, and pick her up. ONCE in the beginning, I took her drama words and deed seriously and shot them back at her. We had been out, heading back home. I was in a hurry to take her back home because I had an appointment elsewhere. We started to argue about something, and she got out of the car, starting to walk away. Even though she knew I was in a hurry. I shouted at her, “If you feel like walking, THEN WALK”. And then I drove away, to my appointment. She had to walk 10 kilometres to get home!!! 😀 It felt kinda good actually to hit her drama back at her. (It was a mild sunny summerday, so no big deal with that) But, oh was she ever furious!

    That’s the only time. Later just some smaller stuff. It’s not worth it really, thinking of the response… too energy consuming and bad for my pshyche.

    This exit, I plan to do as smoothly as possible. But if we’d happen to have a fight on the day I plan to leave, I might as well try some poetic justice.

    And thanks Peaceful Warrior for the words from Atlas Shrugged!

    F~~~ having a pause brother your s~~~ with her will just get worse . Two and a half year sex drought can sometimes means something is going on . Not saying 100% because some woman do just turn off on sex in marriage .Welcome my friend .

    Thanks! I actually pretty sure nothing physical is going on on the side, I think she’s just turned off. I tried to discuss the sexlessness a year ago but quickly learned never to bring it up again. But she might have someone going on on a mail correspondance basis, that’s fully possible.

    Welcome. Read as much as you can here and you will come to realize that nothing you do will make much difference from the sounds of this.

    Your alone in a relationship, there is nothing worse.

    Thanks a lot! I surely will do that. And so true, about being alone in a relationship. Especially as I quite like my own company, when being my own (and on my own).

    Welcome brother! I am so happy you do not have kids with this woman, I know you are suffering from not having children (as I assume you want them) but life is not over yet. Not having kids with this woman will allow your escape plan to be that much easier to execute. On your break I would start to strategize your escape ASAP, talk to a lawyer and know the laws of your land, start funneling money away from accounts you control into strait cash and stop funding joint accounts, start recording all your possessions that you own under your name, and find a place you can go to when you drop the news you are leaving. This is by all means not at all a total game plan as your situation is different from us all but the sooner you get a plan in place the better. Also do not tell anyone what you are doing, not your friends, family, her friends and family… no one as loose lips sinks ships.

    Thanks man! That is something I have started to be immensely glad for, that we do not have children. I have read so many men’s stories elsewhere on the web before coming here, all saying “if it wouldn’t have been for the children, then…”

    What is part of the situation, is that many times during the last few years, she has said that we should divorce, and we don’t have anything more to give each other. But I keep wondering if it is more rhetorics and drama than real honest opinions of hers. I guess I will only find out when I leave.

    I have silently searched info about single dad surrogacy, but it is too expensive for me right now. Still working on finally getting peace over the childlessness and enjoy other things in life. But life is not over yet, as you said!

    Welcome home, Nordman
    Beer’s in the fridge

    SIGH….She is not going to change! Get that straight. She is only going to go find ways to blame you.
    GET OUT FAST. SEE A LAWYER NOW.

    Thanks a lot! I’ll enjoy the beer, chill and feel at home.

    Welcome brother.
    She is not going to change.
    Make an exit plan.
    Speak to a lawyer.
    Good luck on your mission.
    We are here to help you.

    I really appreciate the support and help! Hope to eventually be able to give something back.

    Welcome Mr. Nordman! What everyone else suggested. And my two cents:

    […threatening to commit suicide…]

    Twice I’ve been threatened with this. This is their top tier heart string puller. Whether sincere or not, this is unhealthy for you. It is an attack on YOU! Women cannot possibly imagine the damage they do because we truly do care. I am guessing it feels like a great responsibility to you at your core programming. She will make the argument about your word. It’s the dirtiest trick in their bag (unless children are involved, which in your case, they are not).

    Again, welcome brother, best of success to you.

    Thanks a lot man! And it is so unhealthy ad damaging. Hard to keep a sound distance to as well. How have things worked out for you?

    ^this pretty much reminds me of my ex.

    All Women Are Like That. (AWALT)

    AWALT or NAWALT, that’s the question. Or is it? ;D

    You, Nordman, also have a good way with words.

    Haha 🙂 Thanks for your words, you made me smile! And thanks for sharing Artboy’s and Tower’s words as well!

    Welcome Nordman.

    You’re on the train to freedom my friend.

    I had a similar situation and an abusive partner. I didn’t press charges because I felt ashamed as a man…but I kept photos and recorded some of the violence…never know when it might come in useful.

    Just get out of the relationship….and buy her loads of cats as you walk away.

    Good luck friend.

    Thanks and really sorry to hear about your situation. Having to feel shamed as a man… is something society very much imposes and doesn’t do much to change. Even though you see it sloowly and sporadically starting to be mentioned now, about male victims.

    Can you imagine? Up here North, the women’s victim support association get public funding – no questions asked! They may plan their activities however they want. But a men’s support association get funding ONLY if they’re aimed at rehabilitation for abusive husbands. But NOTHING if their activities are for the husbands that are the victims.

    This is exactly how I thought. No matter how hard you try they will not change. My ex was totally nuts, manipulative and just plain horrible. She also chucked me out of the house so I stayed away, divorced her (after a 10 year marriage) and never went back. I recently acquired my freedom and it is priceless. Divorce is messy and expensive but it doesn’t last forever – it’s much simpler if you don’t have kids – the short term grief is worth it as you have much much more to gain in the longer term. You can become your own person again.

    Welcome by the way.

    Thanks!! Becoming my own person, that’s what I need. That’s what I aim for. Freedom is truly priceless! I’m really glad we haven’t yet built a house, which we’ve planned to.

    All the best to all of you great men out there!!

    #389772
    Nero
    Nero
    Participant

    @nordman: You are in what I call the Realization stage. I was there a few years ago. Divorce will surely follow, unless she lulls you back onto the plantation somehow. I can tell just by what you wrote this story only gets worse. Plan for escape!! I’m finalizing divorce myself. I feel freedom on the other side after 20 years. It is calling my name.

    #388864
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I was in same situation from 2012-2014. After one year, I couldn’t stand it so much, that I stopped going in personally and worked remotely instead.

    The large-and-in-charge “strong woman” at the helm ( who men are allegedly so “intimidated” by ) actually introduced herself to me as “very demanding”. As if that was some kind of admirable quality or special skill. I saved that comment for another time.

    That time finally came when she rang me up one Friday evening at 11:00PM and “demanded” something for Monday. I asked the “strong woman” why she didn’t contact during regular business hours?

    ( Bad planning? What company is open for business at 11:00PM to listen to her “demands”? In what universe would anyone even answer her call? She’s not saving lives. It can wait until Monday. )

    The strong woman got so intimidated by a man’s question, it practically threw her against the wall. Poor thing.

    I would have needed to be paid at least $1,000,000 a year for what it all required.

    With my next invoice, I submitted my “new hourly rates” which were whatever I wanted them to be. It was the most fun I ever had composing an email. And I never had to tolerate her again.

    Saw this movie and could instantly relate to this scene (below). She wasn’t nearly that heinous, but she didn’t need to be – in order to be entirely fed up with her.


    Apparently Marissa Mayer is stepping down from the board of Yahoo. Stock is climbing on the news. Coming only months after her vagenda to fire men in order to hire more women. It’s unclear if Mayer will have any role with the rump company. Forget draining the swamp. Take a blowtorch to it.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #388649
    Arc
    Arc
    Participant

    On a side note, the church’s level of feminist pandering has been growing. Not too long ago my own local priest was giving a sermon on abortion. He claimed:

    “Imagine how many lives we could save from abortion if we taught that women are closer to the divine and deserving of respect?”

    I was so sickened I had to bite my tongue in rage. Religion has finally been appropriated by the feminists and it is turning priests into false prophets. What he should have said was:

    “Imagine how many lives we could save from abortion if we stressed the value of human life?”

    or

    “Imagine how many lives we could save from abortion if we taught people to claim responsibility for their life decisions?”

    But he didn’t say anything like that, instead he pandered to women to hopefully bring more of them into the church. It’s a foolish, desperate plan. Even if it worked, the church would no longer be The Church. I suppose it goes to show that traditionalism is just another form of gynocentrism.

    The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

    #388360
    Nerevar
    Nerevar
    Participant

    Thanks for your reply, brother Solidus. The only medication I take is the one called oxazepam, to prevent panic attacks, which in turn started AFTER I visited a “specialist” on calming techniques, such as breathing exercises, flexing and relaxing all muscles, etc. Typical, isn’t it?

    I’m not seeing any specialist at all right now, only one alternative guy who had some pretty interesting things to say and he pointed me to drinking one liter of hot water each day to flush my liver and clean my insides of heavy metals (insert blastbeats and slick guitar solos!). This will also help me lose weight and be/feel closer to myself again.

    I forced myself to stop drinking and take a 5 kilometer / 3.25 mile walk each day, whether it’s freezing cold, raining or not (I actually love the freezing cold, the air seems way purer). I don’t expect to see quick result, but I do expect to start losing weight, even if it’s only 100 grams (3.5 ounces) a day. I currently weigh 96kg (211 lb) and want to reach 85kg (187 lb) this year.

    I myself just started using whey protein just yesterday because I am trying to bulk up my arms and shoulders to the point it once was like last year before I stopped doing weight training for a while. As for my weight, I have been around 100 kg (220 lb) for a while now and planning on going to 85kg (187 lb) myself to finally get out of obesity all together. I have been doing some small changes from last week though like I did from my journey from 120 kg (265 lbs) all the way to now. But I know for sure that I am better off exercising more than to eat less, because in doing so, you are actually going to increase your metabolism to help you lose weight long term over slowing down your metabolism which would only help you lose weight short term. For the type of job I want to do, I really need physical strength and stamina, and if I eat less, I might actually lose some of it which is not a good idea for me. I have seen too many people who do not eat a lot and those people have very little muscle. Maybe it is good for them because they do not have to do much physical labor to live their life, so good for them though.

    Good stuff 🙂 Unfortunately for me, I probably won’t be able to ingest whey shakes due to celiac disease (the need to eat gluten free), but I guess the local health shop has glutenfree alternatives. The bigger downside is my build, though. I’m skinny (skinnyfat now with thin arms and a beergut) and it would take lots of hard work to gain just a little muscle, which isn’t interesting for me at all. I also have narrow shoulders which would probably only look silly on my frame if I try and bulk, lol.

    I’ve always been jealous of classmates who started getting wider shoulders and strong muscles, but mostly of my younger brother who grew wide, strong shouldered, is strong and athletic, all the things I am not, but I’ve gotten past that jealously and accepted my build when I was around 25 years old. Can’t change it anyway.

    Meanwhile, I’ve been checking out routes I can walk this week. Never the same route twice in a row as that’ll probably get boring real soon.

    Funny how this topic went from complaining about a gen. prac. to weight loss, walking and getting in better health/shape!

    "One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

    #388280

    Thanks for your reply, brother Solidus. The only medication I take is the one called oxazepam, to prevent panic attacks, which in turn started AFTER I visited a “specialist” on calming techniques, such as breathing exercises, flexing and relaxing all muscles, etc. Typical, isn’t it?

    I’m not seeing any specialist at all right now, only one alternative guy who had some pretty interesting things to say and he pointed me to drinking one liter of hot water each day to flush my liver and clean my insides of heavy metals (insert blastbeats and slick guitar solos!). This will also help me lose weight and be/feel closer to myself again.

    I forced myself to stop drinking and take a 5 kilometer / 3.25 mile walk each day, whether it’s freezing cold, raining or not (I actually love the freezing cold, the air seems way purer). I don’t expect to see quick result, but I do expect to start losing weight, even if it’s only 100 grams (3.5 ounces) a day. I currently weigh 96kg (211 lb) and want to reach 85kg (187 lb) this year.

    I myself just started using whey protein just yesterday because I am trying to bulk up my arms and shoulders to the point it once was like last year before I stopped doing weight training for a while. As for my weight, I have been around 100 kg (220 lb) for a while now and planning on going to 85kg (187 lb) myself to finally get out of obesity all together. I have been doing some small changes from last week though like I did from my journey from 120 kg (265 lbs) all the way to now. But I know for sure that I am better off exercising more than to eat less, because in doing so, you are actually going to increase your metabolism to help you lose weight long term over slowing down your metabolism which would only help you lose weight short term. For the type of job I want to do, I really need physical strength and stamina, and if I eat less, I might actually lose some of it which is not a good idea for me. I have seen too many people who do not eat a lot and those people have very little muscle. Maybe it is good for them because they do not have to do much physical labor to live their life, so good for them though.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    #387513

    In reply to: F~~~ing s~~~….

    JimBoLea
    JimBoLea
    Participant

    THERE IS S~~~ OUT THERE I DON’T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT PEDOPHILIA. I WAS RAPED BY MY MOMS BOYFRIEND. THIS WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT. THE SHAME I FELT. AND PUSHING THOSE FEELINGS DOWN,DOWN,DOWN TILL I GET ON HERE AND ITS HITTING ME IN THE FACE.

    IT’S APART OF ME NOW, I’M HERE NOW ALIVE.
    I LOOKED BACK AT ALL THE TIMES I HAD SOME KIND OF SEXUAL EXPERIENCE IN MY YOUTH, FIRST GOING HOME FROM SCHOOL, GOING DOWN THE ALLEY AND SEEING DIRTY MAGS AND LOOKING AT THEM, A BULLY FROM SCHOOL ASKED ME TO GIVE HIM A BLOW JOB I THINK I WAS 7, I RAN AS FAST IAS I COULD TO GET AWAY FROM THAT FREAK. THEN THERE WAS A TIME I WAS ALONE IN THE PARK NEXT TO MY SCHOOL, THE STRANGER CAME UP IN A STEP-VAN LOOKED LIKE ICE CREAM SALESMAN. HE GRABBED ME AND PUT ME IN THE BACK WITH OTHER CHILDREN. WENT A FEW BLOCKS DOWN THE STREET, STOPED OPENED THE DOOR AND SIAD TO ME, “THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU I’M NOT GOING TO HURT YOU, IM GOING TO LEAVE YOU HERE” I REALLY NEVER THOUGHT ANYTHING ABOUT IT TILL YEARS LATER. HOW F~~~ED UP THIS WORLD IS. MY PARENTS GOT A DIVORCE WHEN I WAS 8. THE COURT ORDER WAS WEEKENDS WITH MY FATHER AND WEEKDAYS WITH MY MOTHER. THAT F~~~ED WITH MY MIND. COURSE I SEE THE F~~~ED UP THINKING OF MY FATHER LEAVING MY MOTHER IN A STATE OF MISERY FROM THE STROKE, BEING FULLY PARALYZED ON HER LEFT SIDE, SHE WAS NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL IN MY FATHERS EYES, SO HE INITIATED THE DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS, BLINDSIDING MY MOTHER, THAT HURT HER BADLY. I WAS 9 TRYING TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT, JUST TRYING TO BE A KID. FATHER FOUND HIM A REDHEADED FULLY FUNCTIONAL PILL-POPPING ALHOHALIC. THIS WOMEN TORTURED ME, STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS NEW PERSON MY STEP-MOTHER TIME FLEW FAST BACK THEN, I GOT A SUIT!!! S~~~-BROWN OF COURSE, I HATED THAT F~~~ING 3 PEACE SUIT. TO THIS DAY I WILL NOT WEAR A SUIT. MY STEP-M HUMILIATED ME AT THE STORE PARADING ME AROUND INFRONT OF OTHER SHOPPERS IN MY UNDERWEAR, MY FACE WENT FLUSH, OH SHE LIKED THAT, F~~~ING BITCH. I HAVE A PICTURE OF ME AT THIER WEDDING. SITTING IN A FOLDING CHAIR DRINKING PUNCH, IN THAT F~~~ING S~~~-BROWN SUIT. THINKING HOW F~~~ED UP THINGS ARE. YES EVEN THEN I WAS THINKING HOW CAN I GET BACK AT THIS F~~~ING BITCH. EVERY PLAN I HAD CONCEIVED WAS FOUND OUT BREAKING ME WITH SLAPS AT FIRST, THEN KICKS TO MY SHINS, SHE HAD 3 DAUGHTERS, ALL PRINCESSES TO HER. TO ME THEY WERE F~~~ING UGLY. YOUNGEST MIDDLE OLDEST. OLDEST GOT MARRIED DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH HER. BUT YOUNGEST AND MIDDLE WERE OUT TO GET ME ALONG WITH THE MOM. PLOTTING BECAME MORE DIFFICULT. I REMEMBER STAYING IN MY ROOM, NOT TRYING TO FIT IN AT ALL. THAT WAS MY FINAL RESOLUTION TO THE BATTERING I WAS GETTING FROM STEP-M. I WAS TALL FOR A 9 YEAR OLD TURNING 10. I WAS NOT A BULLY AT SCHOOL, I COULD HAVE EASILY FIT INTO THAT PERSONALITY BUT CHOSE NOT TO, AND THE FIRST FIGHT I GOT INTO, F~~~ING KID HIT ME IN THE EYE SOCKET AND CHIPPED A BONE. SON OF A BITCH. THE SECOND FIGHT WASNT MUCH BETER, KIDS GANGED UP, I WAS HOLDING MY FISTS UP, BUT NOT WATCHING BEHIND ME, I FELL OVER THE KID THAT WAS BEHIND ME. AFTER THAT EPISOID WAS OVER I WAS A BRANDED SOUL, I MIGHT AS WELL WORE A YELLOW STRIPE ON MY SHIRT AND PANTS. F~~~.
    THE P.E. COACH TOOK NOTICE OF ME, GROOMING ME, LETTING ME NOT DRESS OUT. BECOMING A FRIEND MORE AND MORE. TAKING ME OUT TO LUNCH OFF SCHOOL PROPERTY. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WITH COACH, BUT I LOOK BACK ON IT NOW AS THAT’S WHAT HE WAS DOING, GROOMING ME.
    I DID THE SAME AT SCHOOL, RETREATED FROM EVERYTHING AND ACTIVITY. THEN I WAS FORCED TO ATTEND A CHILD GUILDENCE CENTER. WHERE 30-YEAR-OLDS WERE TRYING TO OPEN UP MY MIND. I TOLD THEM WHAT THAY WANTED TO HEAR. AND I WAS BACK AT HOME. KICKING HAD BEEN REDUCED TO PINCHING NOW. F~~~ WILL THIS BITCH LEAVE ME THE F~~~ ALONE.ONE NIGHT GETTING HOME FROM SCHOOL, IT WAS DARK, GOT IN THE FRONT DOOR, GOING THRU THE KITCHEN TO MY ROOM PAST THE FAMILY ROOM, EVERYTHING WAS DARK, SO I KEPT IT DARK, THERE WERE MY STEP-SISTERS 69’ING EACH OTHER ON THE COUCH, IF YOU COULD GET PAST THE WITCH NOSE THAT THAY SHARED AS INHERENT TRAIT. THEY WERE KINDA PRETTY. YOUNGEST WAS A FEATHER HAIRED BLOND, SHE TOTALLY ROAD THAT FOR ALL IT WAS WORTH. MIDDLE WAS A RED HEAD LIKE HER MOM, BUT SHE DIED HER HAIR, F~~~ING MESSING UP THE BATHROOMS, OH F~~~ THAT WAS ANOTHER THING, THE BATHROOMS WERE ALWAYS A F~~~ING MESS, AND OF COURSE IT WAS MY FAULT. TILL I RETREATED MORE. I WAS USING THE SHOWER IN MY FATHERS AND STEP-M ROOM FROM NOW ON. IT WAS THAT WINTER THAT WAS PETICULARLY COLD. I HAD NO HEAT IN MY ROOM, CONVERTED ROOM FROM 2 CAR GARAGE. I GRABBED A BLANKET AND HEADED FOR THE NEAREST HEATER VENT IN THE FLOOR, I HUDDLED AROUND IT. AND WAS FAST ASLEEP.
    SORRY GUYS I JUST WENT INTO REPLAY-MEMORY MODE. YEAH! THIS WORLD IS F~~~ED UP!!! THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU AND YOU TRY ADJUST ALWAYS SHIFTING TO A NEW GEAR. I’M 52 NOW. MY TRANSITION IS WORN OUT, I’M HERE TODAY ALIVE THANKS TO MY GOD WHO HELPED ME WHEN S~~~ HIT THE FAN. I’D BETTER SAVE THIS BEFORE THE BOARD CYCLES THE SYSTEM ON ME AND I HAVE TO LOG ON AGAIN.

    LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

    #387351
    Akhilleus
    Akhilleus
    Participant

    I don’t have any experience with bitcoin. I’m thinking it’s possible to have multiple accounts. So I can learn on one with a little money and then keep refining the process until I am confident and can go off-grid. Cause I would eventually like to have a savings in bitcoins. Just in case the dollar becomes worthless. (Already here in California the state has hit up close to ten friends for back taxes from 15+ years ago. Giving final notices when there were no previous notices. Taking money out of investment plans from the elderly that are too old to know what is going on. My tax man says it has been happening to many of his customers and friends too. That apparently the state is hiring contractors that somehow profit by how much they collect…)

    Anyways I just joined a couple of bitcoin meetups. I’ll put some effort into learning this tech.

    I would caution massing wealth in bitcoins, as its unregulated and prices tend to be very volatile to Mark to market forces you could see huge swings in price and that could affect you if you need the cash, best thing it’s for layering and laundering funds and buying products that are not traceable and have intrinsic value. gold/silver/ etc.

    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marktomarket.asp
    Mark to market explained its last price +/- current price example you could have bought for 100 bucks but price swings down to 70 you just lost 30 bucks per bitcoin. I’ve seen it swing 100’s in a few days.

    https://www.moneylaundering.ca/public/law/3_stages_ML.php
    Layering and laundering incase you know you’re about to get taken to the cleaners in a divorce liquidate buy bitcoins open offshore account or find a seg fund company that is incorporated offshore they have offices locally. Give them ID but sign a NR-17 form claiming you are a non resident give bogus address not in the US. Then sell the bitcoins have the monies deposited into you seg fund account boom bitch wont touch your cash, meantime to explain the money being gone you book a trip to vegas say to spent it on hookers/gambling and booze.

    Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

    #387342
    Magus
    Magus
    Participant

    I don’t have any experience with bitcoin. I’m thinking it’s possible to have multiple accounts. So I can learn on one with a little money and then keep refining the process until I am confident and can go off-grid. Cause I would eventually like to have a savings in bitcoins. Just in case the dollar becomes worthless. (Already here in California the state has hit up close to ten friends for back taxes from 15+ years ago. Giving final notices when there were no previous notices. Taking money out of investment plans from the elderly that are too old to know what is going on. My tax man says it has been happening to many of his customers and friends too. That apparently the state is hiring contractors that somehow profit by how much they collect…)

    Anyways I just joined a couple of bitcoin meetups. I’ll put some effort into learning this tech.

    #386990
    Varun
    Varun
    Participant

    Now that I finally have some time to myself….

    Hello everyone and happy new year!! I don’t know how to start …. but as the title suggests, I am living a new life..an independent life.. a mgtow life. And all thanks to this place..and this place only.

    If you had asked a year earlier: “Do you plan to move out of your parents’ home soon?” I would have never replied… the thought of moving out scared me… as it scared almost everybody. To add to my troubles, I was really lacking self-confidence.

    But being with you guys for a year has changed me. It helped me grow up…and like really ‘become a man’.

    People always keep telling you to be a man, grow up….but how many of them do actually help you become one? Nada.

    This place is like a true shine… turning boys into men…men that can face the world..and not some scared pussy-panderer or blue-pilled schmucks.

    I’d have never got the job hadn’t I got my self-confidence back. And you guys helped me gain it back.

    When I went to the interview, I had doubts..lots of it. I was like, “Am I really ready for this?” A typical me would have said no. Am I out of my mind? Leaving the comforts of my home to work 9 hours at a place for an average salary?

    But I had your voices ringing in my ears…particularly Old Bill’s words: “I was working removing nuclear wastes when I was 21! If I can do it, why can’t you?”

    Now its been a week since my joining..and yesterday I got my photo taken in a fine dress because they want their Best Employee of the month to look good. 🙂 I have Mr. Stealthy to thank for that. “Don’t follow the 9-5 schedule. Just focus and build it.”

    I did build it. I think I earned this moment. All thanks to you guys.

    My success might be insignificant in your lives, or anyone’s for that matter… but I tell my story just to illustrate how the seemingly bigoted racist sexist group called mgtow can change the life of a fatherless boy.

    Thank you to each and everyone. Special thanks to old bill, stealthy, jan, sidecar, hitman, Dyd, etd, old sage, joller and some I can’t remember the names of.

    A big hearty thanks to keymaster for making this place. I just wish you could have been sitting in an interview chair on national tv, telling your success story of how your product touched people’s lives and changed them for the better, but I think you won’t really like that, would you?

    I’ll be infrequent. Work has taken a toll on my body. But I’ll always keep you guys in my mind, and I know that whatever challenge I face.. I will pass with flying colors.

    Because I am a MAN, and I’m f~~~ing proud of it.

    Peace.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    Y_
    Y_
    Participant

    Thanks to Tyler Durden of ZeroHedge for his excellent article: Thanks also to Noam Chomsky, The Hon. Ron Paul and Jim Rickards for the material.

    <post-note. I have noticed the charts are not coming out. I will add a link above the charts so you can manually click to open the chart in another window>

    Part I – Perspectives

    Between 1939 and 1945, the US State Department and the Council on Foreign Relations developed a post-WWII economic plan – dominating a vast swath of the globe that came to be known as the “Grand Area” – comprising the Western Hemisphere, including the former British Empire, and much of the commercial and industrial centre of Europe as possible. Within this region, the United States was to hold unquestioned power with military and economic supremacy, while ensuring the limitation of any exercise of sovereignty by states that might interfere with these global designs. Far from a Pentagon pipedream, the “Grand Area” became and still is, concrete U.S. foreign policy, and its effects form the basis of modern-day Europe, although the capacity to implement these policies has been significantly diminished.

    As Professor Noam Chomsky and other historians have observed, Washington’s plans to dominate the “Grand Area” led directly to a multitude of wars, proxy wars and later to the start of a Middle-East crises (which are for another post). Crucial was the development of an International Monetary Fund, which was intended for and continues to disrupt global economies for the benefit of the US dollar, the US based multinational corporations and the US military-industrial complex. There needed to be a balance of both military and economic structures within the Grand Design –one without the other would not exist for long. (By the way, it is not by chance that the EU is run by Germany and the IMF by France; this divide is implicit in promises made to both Germany and France post-war).

    World War II was very beneficial for the U.S. economy. Industrial production virtually quadrupled, wartime spending ended the 1930’s Depression, which had not been ended before — and an enormous stimulus to the economy by the issue of fiat currency. As industrial expansion and population growth exceeded inflation the depreciation of the currency through printing was not readily felt. The technologies that were developed laid the bases for post-war economic growth. To enable confidence in the US dollar and enable international trade using a single currency – a partial gold standard was agreed at the Bretton Woods Conference, New Hampshire in July 1944.

    BW

    The International Monetary Fund (IMF), the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD), which today are part of the World Bank Group were (not coincidentally) born at the same time. (The IMF prints Special Drawings Rights or SDR’s termed by Rickards as ‘World Money’ – which can be created as needed to insure stable growth of international reserves. If SDR’s replace the US dollar as Reserve assets in world central banks, the U.S. dollar will lose Reserve status. SDR makes the IMF an International Central Bank.)

    The United States, which controlled two thirds of the world’s gold, insisted that the Bretton Woods system rest on both gold and the US dollar. This meant that other countries would peg their currencies to the U.S. dollar, and—once convertibility was restored—would buy and sell U.S. dollars to keep market exchange rates within plus or minus 1% of parity. Thus, the U.S. dollar took over the role that gold had played under the gold standard in the international financial system. Although gold was still the basis for the system actual transactions would be conducted in U.S. dollars. The U.S. blueprint for international access to liquidity was to be policed by the new IMF.

    The U.S. dollar now provided economic backing as the de-facto world reserve currency for trade settlements sanctioned under the new IMF regulations. (A little known fact is that the United States is the only country with veto power in the IMF with 15% of voting rights. This veto power will be given to the BRICS nations in 2017). It was then easier for Western Europe and Japan to facilitate trade with a monetary unit that was backed by gold, in-use globally and guaranteed by one of the two greatest military powers at the time. At the same time these countries were ‘protected’ as long as they paid the necessary political and economic tribute to Washington, never mind the partial sovereignty that was the necessary by-product of such a deal.

    Once freedom of economic choice was quashed – willing or not – there was no practical escape from the enforced hegemony without running foul of the IMF. This meant that a steady supply of US dollars needed to be bought from the US Treasury by countries to effect trade and enabled the United States to sell its debt via dollars through the exchange mechanism while keeping the gold safe – or so it seemed at the time. In times of growth, the United States would use these countries to absorb inflation and conversely during periods of decline as a cushion against deflation. A conditional that did not sit well with participants traded with but were forced to accept the terms as part of post-war assistance.

    On the 21st September 1949 The People’s Republic of China came into being. China was considered an asset that was ‘lost’ to the Western power structure of the day. This seemingly unrelated action halfway across the world will have major implications later, on the balance of global economic power.

    The design of the Bretton Woods System was that nations could only enforce gold convertibility on the anchor currency—the United States’ dollar. Gold convertibility enforcement was not required, but instead, allowed. Nations could forgo converting dollars to gold, and instead hold dollars. Rather than full convertibility, it provided a fixed price for sales between central banks. However, there was still an open gold market. For the Bretton Woods system to remain workable, it would either have to alter the peg of the dollar to gold, or it would have to maintain the free market price for gold near the $35 per ounce value.

    The greater the gap between free market gold prices and central bank gold prices, the greater the temptation to deal with internal economic issues by buying gold at the Bretton Woods price and selling it on the open market. This control was effected on the open market by the London Gold Pool on behalf of the U.S. Treasury.

    Under the “London Gold Pool” arrangement, member banks provided a quota of gold into a central pool, with the Federal Reserve matching the combined contributions on a one to one basis. During a time of rising prices, the Bank of England, the agent, could draw on the gold from the pool and sell into the market to cap or lower prices. This was basically an illegal price suppression scheme of gold on the free market.

    The United States set up the European Recovery Program (Marshall Plan) to provide large-scale financial and economic aid for rebuilding Europe largely through grants rather than loans. This included countries belonging to the Soviet bloc, e.g., Poland. Multinationals and global aid which originated from the US burgeoned.

    From 1947 until 1958, the U.S. deliberately encouraged an outflow of dollars, and, from 1950 on, the United States ran a balance of payments deficit with the intent of providing liquidity for the international economy. Holding dollars became more valuable than gold because constant U.S. balance of payments deficits helped to keep the system liquid and fuel economic growth. From 1948 to 1954 the United States provided 16 Western European countries with USD $17 billion in grants. However it is to be understood that this system was in the U.S.’s interest in keeping economic competition under currency controls. It did not work as expected. Incurring such payment deficits also meant that, over time, the deficits would erode confidence in the dollar as the reserve currency created instability.

    During the next thirty years, most Western European countries took full advantage of the redemption of US dollars for gold at the US Treasury.

    Just like any other empire, the US dollar was an easy way for vassal states to replenish gold supplies. Gold was pegged at USD $36 an ounce – which was mildly inflationary at the time. It was also illegal for US citizens to own gold – which enabled the US Treasury a full monopoly of the metal domestically. As countries could possibly revert to trade via gold or handle balance of payments through gold, there was a rush for everyone to get their hot little hands on as much US gold as possible while the going was good.

    Between 1944 and 1971 the United States’ gold reserves dwindled from 20,200 tonnes to 8133 tonnes as a result of gold repatriation and the price fix at the London Gold Pool and there a real danger of losing all Treasury gold within the next decade. In the first six months of 1971, gold assets of $22 billion fled the U.S. It can be seen that most of this gold above 8000 tonnes was accumulated during US interdiction in the European Theater of WWII.

    http://www.24hgold.com/24hpmdata/articles/img/20130219ELS100.jpg

    Gold’s price spiked in response to events such as the Cuban Missile Crisis, and other smaller events, to as high as $40/ounce. The Kennedy administration drafted a radical change of the tax system to spur more production capacity and thus encourage exports. This culminated with the 1963 tax cut program, designed to maintain the $35 peg with more gold infusion. The London Gold Pool was unsustainable as it was required to cap gold prices that would otherwise rise in the free market. Over 3,000 tons were lost by the US in the price suppression scheme..

    This was unacceptable to the Federal Reserve – which actually owned the 8000 plus tonnes left with the US Treasury – not to say anything about how the economy would fare. (This gold is – by the way – the reason why the Federal Reserve, despite massive currency printing – is still solvent. Gold is still the real ‘shadow’ monetary base of the United States).

    It was now apparent that the experiment to control world monetary policy through a pseudo-gold standard through Bretton-Woods had failed. It was not possible to artificially depress the gold price while gold was acting as an independent store of value set by world markets.

    On 15 August 1971, Nixon issued Executive Order 11615 pursuant to the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970. He unilaterally did what a few good men knew to be a harbinger of death for the US dollar. Nixon declared the United States of America a non-participant of the Bretton Woods agreement of 1944. The US was off the gold standard – and so was every other country that was tied to the US dollar through Breton Woods, trade and investments. Just like that – a world fiat reserve currency and trade system were born. Almost immediately gold began its climb to a true market value of USD $850 from $41 within 7 years.

    https://www.quandl.com/data/BUNDESBANK/BBK01_WT5511-Gold-Price-USD.png?dataset%5Bcollapse%5D=monthly&dataset%5Bgraph_title%5D=Gold+Price+in+USD&dataset%5Bheight%5D=250&dataset%5Bwidth%5D=375

    Bretton Woods had all of the world currencies pegged to the dollar and the dollar then pegged directly to gold. If the U.S. was running massive trade deficits, they could – in theory – just adjust the value of the currencies with respect to the dollar, and those deficits would disappear.

    However, because of pegging to the dollar, this just would not work. To adjust the relative value of the dollar, you’d have to convince every other country in the world to adjust their currency at the same time to retain parity between all member nations, and this would not happen as it would de-stabilise international trade and possibly wipe out financial assets of other countries. (Something the EU and ECB would realise 40 years on).

    Adjusting the value of the dollar with respect to gold would also not work since every other currency was pegged to the dollar and not to the value of gold.

    Bretton Woods could have been salvaged if all currencies individually floated to gold traded freely in the marketplace, with the US Treasury very rich indeed at this point – and there would have been no need for repatriation. In hindsight we may wonder how this alternative escaped mention or implementation.

    In fact – it had been proposed and rejected, for two reasons. Firstly, this would be then the end of US economic hegemony. Secondly, the economists at that time running Washington and Europe were from the Keynesian School of Economics – they had as much use for gold as MGTOW for females. This was a perfect opportunity to convert the unbelievers.

    However in 1971 most countries could find an alternative rather than financing US debt through the buying of worthless fiat currency paper bills. It was also not clear if a revision to the Bretton Woods would be ratified. As monetary value is a confidence game – there needed to be an imperative for countries to continue use of the dollar. By the mid-1960s, the E.E.C. and Japan had become international economic powers. With total reserves exceeding those of the U.S., higher levels of growth and trade, and per capita income approaching that of the U.S., Europe and Japan were narrowing the gap between themselves and the United States and did not need the dollar.

    The following is a comparison of the Dow to Gold. This is value of the Dow Jones Industrial Index (based on the currency in use) divided by the Gold Price. Note the stock market crashes, especially after Bretton Woods between 1973 – 1975 CE. Compare how the price of stocks revert close to the market gold price during crises periods. No matter the shorter term gains through other means – the intrinsic value of any market in the longer term is pegged naturally to the gold available to underwrite that market.

    As the only real money – gold acts as the final arbiter of the stock market. The real value of any country’s wealth is in the amount of physical gold it holds in reserve.

    http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dow_gold_ratio_long_term_chart_1900-20121.png

    There was an ongoing Cold War in Europe, The Vietnam War had just ended and South East Asia was starting to rebuild. China was also industrialising its economy at an incredible rate.. Plain common sense dictated the US needed Europe and Japan more than the other way around as a cushion against trade wars and actual military confrontation. If Europe decided to decouple from the US dollar there was nothing – short of a trade war with allies that could stop it. This would give the advantage in the regional conflict to the USSR and China – who were preaching the glories of communism to all and sundry and needed converts.

    The consequences for the US economy had already started at the close of the 1960’s. The 1973–1974 bear market lasted between January 1973 and December 1974. Affecting all the major stock markets in the world, particularly the United Kingdom, it was one of the worst stock market downturns in modern history. The crash came after the collapse of the Bretton Woods system over the previous two years, with the associated ‘Nixon Shock’ and United States dollar devaluation (under the Smithsonian Agreement) to help curb the U.S. trade deficit. There were calls to reinstate the gold standard under President Reagan – which was rejected. The Keynesians had won again.

    Republican Congressman the Hon. Ron Paul – in the brilliantly argued Minority Report of the U.S. Gold Commission in 1982 for the Reagan Administration (titled and published as ‘The Case for Gold’ in 1983) – said “… all the effort and planning imaginable cannot make paper money work. There is no way paper can be ‘improved’ as money. Whenever governments are granted power to purchase their own debt, they never fail to do so, eventually destroying the value of the currency. Political money always fails because free people eventually reject it. For short periods individual countries can tell their citizens to use paper, but only at the sacrifice of personal and economic liberty”.

    The following is a comparison of USD to Gold in terms of purchasing power. Look what happens after 1971.

    http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif

    The possibility of an economy in recession – again – was something the US Government and their true masters– Wall Street and the Federal Reserve – could not afford – at any cost.

    The United States used all its economic and military power to take possession of the world gold standard – and failed.

    Something had to be done to ensure the U.S fiat-dollar stayed as the World Reserve Currency.

    End of Part 1

    Citiations
    http://www.actvism.org/en/politics/chomsky-new-world-order-grand-area/
    http://www.zerohedge.com/print/583177
    http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1852254,00.html
    https://www.thebalance.com/gold-price-history-3305646
    http://goldsilverworlds.com/gold-to-silver-price-ratio-dow-jones-to-gold-price-gold-vs-us-dollar-rate/
    https://www.quandl.com/collections/markets/gold
    http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/lessons-london-gold-pool

    #385620

    Welcome V,

    Congratulations on finding MGTOW and making your Introduction.

    Cheers to the MGTOWs who wrote the replies. Those replies are all excellent.

    V, when you work with MGTOWs, your life will get better, especially when you can accelerate your learning curve and avoid making the same mistakes.

    Try to absorb everything MGTOWs are telling you.

    Keep reading the Forums and the Archives.

    The Introduction section of the MGTOW forums is filled with men just like you who are asking the same questions.

    Most of the thoughtful replies by other MGTOWs in those Introductions are brilliant.

    Here is an example of an excellent reply that was given to a man who posted his introduction, “New to MGTOW today” :

    Esther Vilar’s book saved me so that recommendation to read it is very good. A similar book by a Nigerian author in England is The Anatomy of Female Power. Both are online at:

    Esther Vilar
    The Manipulated Man
    https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf

    Chinweizu
    The Anatomy of Female Power
    http://therawness.com/AFP.pdf

    You will find the members here are very experienced and sharing information is invaluable. I have only been on site for a few months, and despite being over 70 years old, I have learned a lot of explanations for the female behavior I had experienced or seen in the past. Prior to MGTOW, you had to have been lucky to have had any married men really warn you about the perils of marriage. Now the married and divorced men are finally getting to tell their stories here. So listen to them. They will keep you out of trouble.

    Having serenity as a direct result of being on the “MGTOW Road” allows me to fully enjoy peace and tranquility.

    Now watching a sunset is amazing.

    Going for a walk at sunrise is miraculous.

    Having a moment to watch the birdies is wonderful.

    Now I am never “bored.”

    In hind sight, my relationS~~~s with women was an addiction which ruined my inborn Serenity. This addiction has the same chemical characteristics on the body as using Heroin.

    Also, the influences of women compelled me to do things that were not in my best interests even though I believed them to be “exciting” activities.

    You can expect a “crash” every time you are cut off from your addiction. Temporarily finding another woman to f~~~ is just a “hair of the dog” fix. It will only keep you addicted.

    Removing Blue and Purple Pill indoctrination is like peeling layers off of an onion. It takes time to unlearn bad habits and to understand how to live as a free man.

    I hope you are able to make better choices than me and move past addiction to reclaim your natural instincts and essential Serenity.

    What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

    #384768
    Joey Brooks
    Joey Brooks
    Spectator

    Just read the piece on “Flaky Chicks” and it inspired me to write my very first post here.

    First of all…I never really dated this girl. Her name is Caroline. I sure did try to date her though. But she was the classic Flake. So I first have to come clean about NOT actually ever getting her to show up for a date. The Story:

    Caroline was in a few of my college classes (LSU Late ’70s) and caught my eye like any pretty, exotic girl would. I struck up a conversation with her and went through all of the “pre-dating” protocol. Everything seemed OK about her so I asked her out on a date. She seemed excited about it, I set a time to pick her up, and that was that. Now I am no dummy. I always CALL before I drive over to a woman’s house just in case I screwed up the time or they forgot or whatever. Honest mistakes happen. Well…no answer. So I called another girl and went out with her. This process repeated itself three times (my upper limit for getting stood up by flaky girls). One time her roommate answered and gave me a bunch of double-talk. Pure bulls~~~, I could smell it through the phone. I found it funny actually because at the time I was in college there were LITERALLY two girls for every boy – just like the Beach Boy’s song. Not to brag too much but I was kind of a one-man escort service with over 60 girls calling me for dates and NO i was not getting sex from all of them, or sometimes ANY of them, because then I have sprung the trap and would be asked to give up the other 59 girls of course. I was on a list of “nice guys who could dance and keep my hands to myself” at a couple of dorms. Many of the women were engaged to guys back home and just wanted some nightlife with a decent guy. FYI…I almost always had ONE girl to have physical fun with. Back to the danged story.

    One time I actually got to hang out with Caroline and took her up to my dorm room where she met, and got a huge crush on – my roommate. Figures. She actually KEPT dates with him and my roomie got to hit that s~~~. I was happy for him, I had plenty of action of my own, but I did find this kinda RUDE of Caroline to hook up with my f~~~ing roommate. Whatever. It didn’t last a month. Caroline and I were still “buds” as far as she knew but I was over it except for having some fun with her idiot tendencies. I amused myself just playing with her.

    During one semester I saw Caroline in a walking cast. She broke a foot or something skiing. She was an architecture major and had a ton of stuff to carry to a class. Like a good “White Knight” I offered to carry her s~~~ to class early one morning. Other than that I stayed pretty cordial and would ask her on a date just for fun. I always had a backup plan and always needed it. In 2 years she NEVER kept ONE date. Funny s~~~.

    So eventually, as luck would have it, Caroline got a HUGE crush on me like out of the blue. I think word at the dorm must have gotten to her that I was super popular, fun, and not hard to be around. So she starts perusing me. I did not take her serious at all and made some excuse every time she asked me to do something. All this did was make her even more crazy for me. It got kinda ridiculous. Yes, I was tempted to hit that s~~~. I was 19 years old with testosterone squirting out of every pore. But NO WAY was that bitch going to get my good stuff, ever. I was happy to lead her on though.

    One afternoon I get a phone call from Caroline. “Wow…she knows how to use the phone” I thought. I was blown away by what I was about to hear. Caroline informed me that her parents were going out of town for a week during our Spring Break and she wanted me to go home with her (about an hours drive) to hang a round her house naked for the whole week. I could not freaking believe my luck! So I told her “SURE!…sounds GREAT! See you Friday!”

    Friday comes along. My phone rings. It’s Caroline telling me she is ready to go. Wow. She kept a date FINALLY. I told her: “Caroline…remember you stood me up like twenty times over the past two years?”. Silence. Then I said: “There is no f~~~ing WAY I am going anywhere with you. Now you know how that s~~~ feels. Goodbye.”

    Mother of God I felt great. I had no idea if that even hurt her but I went down to the cafeteria walking on a cloud. I grabbed my tray of food and sat at a big table with a group of male buds. I didn’t say anything to them about what happened as they didn’t really know the girl. I get about halfway through dinner and Caroline’s roommate comes into the cafeteria. She strolls over to me, throws her whole tray of food on me and calls me an asshole, then storms out. I just sat there with a HUGE grin on my face. Then I knew just how much I must have destroyed that stupid, flaky bitch. I hope she learned something.

    And I hope you all enjoyed this. I mean…who else could I tell this to?

    If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?

    Unicron
    Unicron
    Participant

    Politicians and social media users are questioning the mass screening of migrants conducted by Cologne police on New Years’ Eve, slamming the tactic as “racial profiling,” but law enforcement officials have defended the screening, citing security concerns.

    The Cologne police chief, Jurgen Mathies, rejected accusations of racial profiling saying, “there were by no means only North Africans who were checked.”

    Yet, Green Party (Die Gruenen) leader Simone Peter has questioned the legality of the mass ID checks of migrants that were conducted on New Year’s Eve in Cologne.

    “A question of proportionality and legitimacy arises when almost 1,000 people are being checked and some detained based on how they look like,” Peter told the Rheinische Post.

    Her concerns were echoed by her colleague, Volker Beck, the party’s representative for migration.

    “Police measures should be based on [the person’s] dangers or the behavior of a person, not their identity,” he said, noting that “so-called ‘racial profiling’ – meaning police action based only on the supposed ethnic group, religion, and national origin – would not be a legitimate method.” He stressed, however, that he should first hear from the police before making a final judgement.

    The tightened security measures were put in place for this year’s New Year’s celebrations following the calamitous incidents of last year’s, when hundreds of Arab-looking men reportedly sexually harassed or abused hundreds of women in front of Cologne’s Cathedral and main railway station.

    According to the latest official information cited by Die Welt, last year’s New Year’s violence in Cologne has resulted in 267 investigations against 333 suspects. However, prosecutors have dropped half of those proceedings, and only 30 perpetrators have been convicted, the outlet added.

    To avoid a repeat this year, police launched identification checks on a massive scale at the main rail hub and beefed up police presence to some 1,700 officers in the area of the festivities.

    Authorities took note of some 650 people’s ID’s, of which 98 percent were North Africans’, Mathies announced at a press conference on Sunday, adding that police had screened a total of 1,700 people and refused some 900 entrance to Cologne. The federal police said that 92 people had been temporarily detained, of which only 16 were ethnic Germans.

    The mass ID checks did not sit well with some people on social media, however.

    “The so-called “security concept” of police in Cologne was actually a racial profiling,” one person wrote.

    “Well, dear police in Cologne. If you want to have some praise for your work, one should not resort to methods violating the constitution, such as racial profiling,” another message said.

    Law enforcement in Cologne also faced criticism for calling the North Africans “Nafris [Nafros in English]” in one of its tweets.

    Mathies apologized for the tweet saying it was a “working term” and wasn’t meant to be used in public. He tried to explain why police used it.

    “The term [Nafri] has been in use internally by police since 2013 as a synonym for young men from Northern Africa, who have been attracting attention for years for their readiness to use violence and or committing criminal offences,” Mathies told reporters on Monday.

    However, the police chief defended the mass screening of North Africans.

    “There have been situations, similar to what we experienced last year,” he stressed, adding that, in general, the screening operation had been a success.

    A Spokesperson for the German Interior Ministry has rejected allegations of racial profiling by police. Such methods “are in our view illegal and are neither practiced nor taught by the federal police,” Johannes Dimroth told reporters on Monday.

    However, Dimroth did not clarify whether the tactics as applied in Cologne this year would be a “role model” for the future. “I cannot answer that question. But what I can say quite generally is that, self-evidently we take the view that the responsible authorities at the site adapt to the situation and measure each case individually.”

    According to local federal police spokesperson Wolfgang Wurm, groups of migrants had teamed up in online messenger chats to plan a mass gathering in Cologne during the celebrations.

    “On the basis of smartphone chats, we have found out that groups of investigation relevant persons have agreed to meet in Cologne on New Year’s Eve,” Wurm told Focus Online. The meeting had been set for around 10pm local time at the festival area in front of Cologne’s central railway station.

    In 2016, Cologne’s police were accused of providing poor security for the New Year festivities in the city center, but after this year’s celebrations law enforcement received hundreds of emails and telephone calls thanking police for their activities, according to Mathies.

    https://www.rt.com/news/372501-cologne-police-racial-profiling/

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    Is Germany trying to out cuck Sweden?

    Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

    #383417

    For Christmas 2016 she responded by giving him a brand new 2017 model divorce petition, Lucky Guy! He has now moved out of his home, lives with parent again, etc. Typical divorce rape scenario now set in motion for 2017.

    I saw her last night. In typical fashion, she has lost weight, is back on the market, new jewelry, provocative clothing, ultra high heels, etc. Typical Chad Thunderc~~~ dream girl.

    In approximately a month he will be ruined, is currently homeless(technically), and will get to pay for her new rack and 4X4. When will we finally learn to just say “NO!” Wake up fellas, and go MGTOW.

    This is the typical end game of marriage, do not think your perfect little snow flake is different and that she really loves you. Once your utility is used up and she is bored of you she will start looking at getting back to the excitement of the c~~~ carousel. She knows she will get to keep the house and car, while she gets f~~~ed hard by a succession of Chads in the house you are paying for.

    She has checked out a long time before she decides to leave, so all she can think about is looking good for the exciting divorce party carousel ride she has planned (and is probably already on). This is how they can be so cold and calculating, they have had a long time to prepare and they feel fully justified as it is clearly all your fault.

    For any guys contemplating marriage let me paint you a picture. You living with your parents or in a crappy rented bedsit whilst being unable to see your children with zero money. Your wife looking hotter than she ever bothered looking for you, driving a brand new car and living in the house that you are paying for. Her doing things with guys she has only just met that she would never do for you. You being financially ruined for the foreseeable future, probably unable to buy a house to live in as you are mortgaged up to your eyeb~~~~ on the house she is still living in and expects to keep.

    Having to drive to the house to pickup the kids for the weekend whilst seeing the car of her current Chad parked on the drive. Knowing he is going to be f~~~ing her all weekend long whilst she wears the new lingerie she bought whilst you try and entertain the children at your parents house while trying not to think about what she is up to.

    Seriously, do not get married.

    For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

    #383273

    Anonymous

    Great question Shiny. Blackhawks are like seagulls flying around my place. The Chinooks are louder. People who stay with me freak out on the military aircraft buzzing around me 24/7. I love watching C-17s come in on final approach. It’s kind of scary to watch.

    Someone on mgtow.com has the answer. I guarantee. I know propeller airplanes are loud too. The older jet engines were incredibly loud. I watched a 767 take off from the base the other week heading East transporting troops. It’s very quiet.

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