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AnonymousGreetings JNM,
Just got back from an International Convention for Celtic Culture. The Canadian contingent had the largest number of SJWs, feminists, and lesbians.
The Californians were second and they even brought their own trannies. Ugh!
It was interesting to see how the Bull Dykes always go after the Alpha Males for various reasons including recruiting woman to their cause. A lot of feminine women get turned on when dominants battle each other.
My second brother is a magnificent Alpha Male and semiprofessional Boxer.
He has had a lifetime of defending himself against big fat Bull Dykes at his day job and socially.I was thrilled to be around so many other Alpha Male Red Heads which doesn’t happen where I live. It was interesting to compare notes and see how many things we have in common. For example, we Gingers were the only ones stretching out after an intense workout.
……Working on my 6th book……
I have been working with others as a coauthor and editor, but finally finished my first book about three years ago.
The same thing happened for my musical interests a couple decades ago. I worked for others on their recordings/ concerts and then finally made my own.
There are interesting similarities between writing a book and making a CD. One of them is that the work is never really finished. I had to learn how to stop editing and just put it out there.
Anyway, thanks for signing up as a member and making your first Introduction.
Here are some tips:
Do not give out any information about yourself that will enable our Great Enemy to identify you.
I am going to ask you some questions that you are not required to answer.
The first reason I am asking is because I want you to think about where you are as a MGTOW and what is waiting for you down the MGTOW road.
Too many men, especially myself, who have spent their time as Blue Pill slaves have had no lives during that time outside their marriage.
Blue Pill men generally have few hobbies, friends, future goals, and interests on the Plantation because all of a man’s resources, including mental/ time, are used up serving his adult child woman and HER children. And I have found that men with daughters have the least, out of the blue pill slaves.
The Second reason has to do with establishing YOUR Bonifides.
Think about the origins of the practice of people clinking their glasses before drinking a toast.
This practice was developed to prevent murder by poison.
It is a matter of establishing trust.
Giving away unearned trust is a Big Mistake.
MGTOW’s should be encouraged to establish their Bonifides as soon as possible, preferably in their Introductions, and later earn that trust in the Forums.
Kindly share any more red pills and stories of what your life looks like now.
Where are you on the MGTOW road?
Have you arrived at AWALT yet?
How old are you (the decade when you were born is fine)?
Education/ Training?
Work situation and career aspirations?
What kind of fun things do YOU do?
What are your plans for the future?
Here is a poster to help set the mood:
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
I get a phone call at 1am from my son, saying he is home alone and his mom left him there and would not take him with her. He tells me he is sacred and would like to go to my moms house.
Sounds good right? Well No.. You see, this is Kidnaping.
And not only that, its TOTALLY COOL with CPS of Oregon.
I would have never thought that this would be okay to threaten a 10 year old not to call anyone or tell anyone that he is home alone or call his father.
But it IS cool to threaten to beat your kid, Spank him , and Ground him for being scared to be home alone from 11PM to 9AM.
Not only that, its OKAY to lie to him that someone is watching him.
And Better yet, a good idea to leave him at home with no phone at 1am in the morning.
Now, I wonder, sitting in CA, what the HELL is going on.
So my mom goes to the court house with my son, and they tell her they can DO NOTHING.
Now, we know a LAW has been broken, a KID is SCARED to go back home to his mother, but now we have the POLICE saying he has to go back and CPS.
Now they were cool when I called them at 1am and said, Is it okay to pick up my son from his moms house, no one is there, and he is sacred, and I cant call mom and there is not phone there, he had to go walking around outside at 1am to go find a WIFI signal to call me with his phone… (more on that later)
So, Apparently, its ALL COOL. And they knew they were going to leave, but did not tell anyone he was going to be left home alone.
So mom just spring this on him, and Boom.
So what does CPS have to say about this? “SHE IS A GREAT MOTHER” – According to my mom who spoke with the CPS person, but NEVER called me. Weird right?
So if a KIDS scared to go back home, its all cool. Kids are OKAY to be sacred with their moms. CPS says so.
When they tell you they are depressed, its all good.
WHen they tell you they want to kill themselves. Its good too!
Now when you call the CPS hotline ans ask them what to do? THey seem to have ZERO advice as soon as they find out MOM has custody.
They were more interested in where he was then what happned. I mean the LADY refused for me to talk tot her SUPERVISOR.
I don’t even have words for this, and of course I recorded the conversation. SHE WAS OUTRIGHT LIKE WHOA Dad caught her, WHAT DO WE DO TO COVER IT!
I mean last time they sent me a FAKE email address to send pictures and videos.
Now, I have the custody hearing in a week.. And I have to wonder What the hell the judge is going to do now.
I been trying to just get a hold of my sons and MY OWN CPS record and they STILL won’t give it to me.
I was even set up by her lawyer to break the Protection order for visitation that was set up, and to add icing on the cake, I had a JUDGE TELL ME POINT BLANK that I can be arrested at ANY TIME during my Visit if she feels I am not following HER RULES (that are not even written down, there just whatever she thinks about)
So let me get this straight. She has to pick the person to do visitation, then if she does not, no fault of hers.
If I want to talk to our son, I have to have her permission.
If he feels bad, or wants to call cuz he is depressed, or mad or angry, he can’t. He gets grounded.
THis next week, (after it has been rescheduled 3 times already) I get to see the judge for the final hearing.
I thought I was going to bring specialist, and people and doctors, but I found out something. As long as CPS keeps saying that his Mother is A GREAT MOM. There is ZERO chance. And if I don’t have those records, again, ZERO CHANCE.
I only got one legal option. I plan to take that route.
You know, I try harder then ever to be there for my kid. Then everything I do, just makes it worse for him.
I hate to say this. But I think its about time I just walk away.
This is Killing me. And you know, the only option here is Jail time for me if I step in. And an arrest warrant.
Well. I guess I got 4 years before he can leave there at 14. TO bad I will miss most of it.
I never wanted to admit this, but for once. I think its best to just walk away.
I am tired. Every other thing I prove I am not doing (drugs, being crazy, they just throw another allegation, I’m back at square one.
You know, whats the worst thing about all of this? You get in trouble for doing nothing, and its the same a if you did something.
Its been a hard shame for me when I get pulled over just to be told “Do you know you have a Protection order with Lisa Pelham!
Um Yea THanks, Do you have anyone in your car?
so this is how they ruin dates for the rest of your life as well.
Not to mention, it f~~~s up your chances for many jobs, and so much more.
And if you try to fight it, they just serve you another one. Over and Over.
Just for picking up my son for visitation that my lawyer SAID IS COULD I get arrested.
Man, when I first got here, I thought there was hope. I can now firmly say, there is no hope for the regular guy out there if you’re from Portland Oregon.
I have to wonder, if I has just kept my mouth shut, never said anything, let this all play out. Kept silent.
I would be home right now, spending time with my son, going out for Ice cream, Bulding solar pannels, and making wind turbines in the back yard.
We could have been riding bikes. Going to the beach. And yes the bed time story or watching Neil talk about the universe.
For the record, Karma, Jesus, god, Ala, whatever you want to call it. There is no being, no force that is going to stop a woman from f~~~ing up your life or your dreams.
All I Ever wanted was to be a father and have a family. And now that was taken away from me.
The other thing I wanted, was to be with the woman I loved since highschool. And little did I know, I was just being used and was never loved back, respected, or even treated kindly or justly.
If you want to know the fastest way to get over something like this?
Start helping other men. I have done so much good in California and San Francisco.
It makes you forget for just a little while the pain. I don’t know why it won’t go away.
Its going to come up to a year since my son was taken away.
And in that amount of time, I was able to do nothing.
So, I hope this does not waste anyones time. I just wanted to let you know, you can save every penny, work every job, do everything you can to make money, and follow all the laws, and rules, and it will get you nowhere.
I really have to wonder. If I follow my background, I am Hindu. We believe in reincarnation.
I ask myself sometimes. What the hell I did wrong in my past lifetime to deserve a life like this. I know this is petty, but I must of been some really bad kind of guy.
If this is my first time, and there is a god? I wonder if it really is a woman. Cuz this kind of suffering could only be masterminded by being so cruel.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Topic: Let this be another example
I found this post this morning, and I have to say that the story is a perfect example of how a man can be taken advantage of by a single mother who’s children are not yours. Many men are chivalrous. They believe in “providing” because I believe it’s part of man’s DNA to play that role. And women, “take”. It’s part of their DNA to consume what the man provides. Read this story and let it sink in. Do not be provider for these f~~~ing vultures. Going your own way saves men.
“My step-daughter will be getting married on August 3rd. The wedding planning has consumed most of her and her mother’s life (I say her mother because we aren’t married, though we’ve lived together for 10 years) for the past six months.
My step-daughter graduated last December from University. I paid for her to go to college, though it was a state school, it still ran $40K. She does not have a job and has been living with us for the duration of her college career and since her graduation. I also bought her a car to get back and forth from school when she finished high school.
From time to time her deadbeat father would pop into her life and she would fawn all over him. Although he has not contributed a cent to her education or paid any child support, though that is my girlfriend’s fault as c.s. was not part of the settlement, she still loves him and wants him in her life. He stays long enough to break her heart by skipping town and breaking some promise that he made her.
The wedding venue holds 250 people max. I gave them a list of 20 people that I wanted invited, you know, since I was paying for everything. They told me that was no problem and they’d take care of it. So I let these people know they’d be getting an invite and they should save the date. Saturday, I saw one of my friends on this list at the golf course and asked if he was coming. He told me that he wasn’t invited. He told me that he got an announcement, but not an invitation. He had it in his back seat (along with probably six months of mail) and showed it to me. Sure enough, it was just an announcement, and my name was nowhere on it. It had her dad’s name and her mom’s name and not mine.
This led to a pretty big fight with my GF, as I found out that NONE of my list of twenty “made the cut” for the final guest list because “250 people is very tight.” I was p~~~ed, but not a hell of a lot I could do because the important people in my life had already been offended. My GF said “if some people didn’t rsvp yes, I might be able to get a couple people in.” But that is an ultimate slap in the face in my opinion. So, I was boiling on Saturday.
Yesterday, we had a Sunday dinner with the future in-law’s family and us and a surprise guest, the “Real Dad.” At this little dinner my step-daughter announced that her “Real Dad” was going to be able to make it to her wedding and that now he’d be able to give her away. This was greeted with a chorus of “Oh how great” and “How wonderful”s.
I don’t think I have ever felt so angry and so disrespected. I was shaking. I took a few seconds to gather my composure, because I honestly wasn’t sure if I would cry or start throwing punches or both. Once I was sure I’d be able to speak I got up from my chair and said I’d like to make a toast. I can’t remember exactly what I said but the gist of it was this:
“I’d like to make a toast.” The sound of spoons against glasses ring in my years. “It has been my great pleasure to be a part of this family for the past ten years.” Awe, how sweet. “At this point in my life I feel I owe a debt of gratitude to bride and groom, because they have opened my eyes to something very important.” Confident smiles exchanged. “They have showed me that my position in this family is not what I once thought it was.” And now a glimmer of confusion and shock begins to spread on the faces in the room. “Though I once thought of myself as the patriarch or godfather of the family, commanding great respect and sought out for help in times of need, it seems instead that I hold the position of an ATM, good for a stream of money, but not much else. As I have been replaced as host, both on the invitations and in the ceremony, I am resigning my financial duties as host to my successor, Real Dad. So cheers to the happy couple and the path they have chosen.” I finished my drink. “You all can let yourselves out.”
Is this selfish? I’m supposed to shell out 40 – 50 grand for a wedding that I can’t invite anyone to? That I am not a part of? I’m so done with this crap. I’m done with my step-daughter, I’m done with my GF. I transferred the money out of our joint account last night. (she has not had a job since she moved in with me) This morning I called all the vendors I had written checks to for deposits to refund my money. At present it looks like I’ll lose around 1500, for the venue, but the other vendors have been great about refunding.
TLDR: You want your “REAL DAD” to be on the invitation, to give you away and to sit at the head table, fine, your “REAL DAD” can pay for everything too.
EDIT: The immediate aftermath was tantrum and people sitting there mumbling while not actually saying anything to me, but to each other. After much yelling with the GF about me being selfish, I spent the night in my home office and no one knocked on my door, not once. Today’s aftermath is kind of depressing for me. GF brought me Bride’s wedding planner to show me how much work I was ruining. I thumbed through it, found a page in the music section for Father / Daughter dances. All of the songs were catered to Real Dad’s taste. So I thought they were just being disrespectful, but now I’m feeling like they never really gave a crap at all, especially since the menu included two ingredients I’m allergic to, that actually made me laugh. Either way, I’m glad to be done, returned the planner and asked her when she and bride could move out. Also, I never promised to pay for the wedding. I offered them the use of my home when they were sure it was going to be small, but other than that, all I’ve heard is how it’s the Bride’s family that should pay, so, let it be the bride’s family then, aka, not me.
EDIT: June 9th 1:15 am. Girlfriend and Bride are now moved out. They are moving in with the groom. It was very hard not to be petty with some of the “belongings” they took with them, but it’s done and I switched out the locks and now it’s time for a brew. I can’t believe how popular this story got, but I feel good to be given support by so many. If I find out what happens with the wedding, I will let you know, but I can’t guarantee that I will put in the effort to find out. From what I’ve heard they are trying to “scale things back” and get his parents to help out. GF burned bridges when I found out she tried to write herself a check on our joint account the day after the unpleasantness. By then I had already moved money, so I guess I’m a bigger ass than her, but I could feel it coming. That’s all. Thanks. “God bless peace and freedom.
Topic: Hey guys
I’ve been a member since the start of last year but this is my first post, I’m pretty bad at intros so bare with me.
I’d like to think I’ve been MGTOW most of my life since I never really cared much for women, apart from providing an offspring I never really saw the point in dating but hey, hormones kicked in and I ended up chasing tail a few times; good thing my logic kicked in after I had my fun and before things got hairy and I learnt to not throw myself under the bus.
The more I looked into going my own way the more I realised I wasn’t for the first 20 years of my life as I was a slave to external validation from other people as I wanted nothing more than to be accepted by my peers which resulted in being taken advantage of more often than not and going down the meaningless pursuit of being the person other people wanted me to be.
When I turned 20 I started getting into martial arts and while it may not sound like much but this was a pivotal point in my life as it was the very first time I did something because I purely wanted to do so, for myself. From then on I have become obsessed with personal development and pursued only in my individual interests; I have evolved a great deal since then, more than I ever thought possible. I am now 25 and life is good.
Since this is my introduction I guess I should list all the major red pills in my life so far:
– My brother emigrating to America (I’m in UK) to marry and then getting completely divorce-raped
– My mother indoctrinating my sister not to marry for “love” but instead for money at a young age
– My aunt guilt-tripping my grandfather to do chores for her until he was on his deathbed
– My ex-girlfriends behaving like 5 year olds when they didn’t get what they planned
– Being FWB with a woman while she treats the guys she friendzoned like s~~~going to end my intro here as I feel I’ve written a bit too much, it’s great to finally write one though and to know I’m not alone finding this site, thanks for reading.
P.S – big thanks to all the posts on here about female manipulation tactics as it’s helped me to recognise it and own a lot of self-entitled c~~~s
I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine - Bruce Lee
AnonymousHullo there Gentlemen and no ladies ! About time I stopped lurking, did the right thing and joined properly.
Firstly, and most importantly I have to thank Keymaster for being so patient and sorting out my login issues, he went above and beyond to get it sorted and make another new member welcome. A true gentlemen.
I am not sure exactly how I found this place but it sure has been an eye opener reading about just how f~~~ed up the so called ‘fairer sex’ can be. Of course, I came to this conclusion by my own a long time ago and my story is nowhere near as horrific as some of you guys here. And not as painful as the stories of some of the men I have known in real life either.
So what is my story?50 year old from Australia who never had or wanted any kids and never will. Smart decision number 1. Kids are just not for me. At the stupidly young age of 20 I got married to a beautiful but nasty and crazy Italian girl who also said she didn’t want kids. Dumb decision number 1. Of course she really wanted them and being Italian, her interfering arsehole family also wanted that to happen. When it didn’t happen, they started undermining me. But I am getting a bit ahead of things here.
Even without the kids issue, she really wasn’t the right one for me and I married her after her family disowned her for finally standing up to their old fashioned ways. We moved in together ( a big sin in a traditional Italian family) and had a reasonable if boring and mostly sexless life together. Eventually her family found us and when they discovered I did the right thing and married her, they loved me again. But that also meant the interfering started again and to quote the crazy bitch “when you married me you married my family” Blue pill hell was the order of the day and I was made to feel like a failure when we didn’t own 3 houses, 5 kids and me working 28 hours a day to pay for it all. She wasn’t lazy or wasteful and would have been a good wife for the right guy who wanted that sort of life. That guy was not me. “It’s me or the Harley” was one of the dumbest things to say to me as I chose the Harley. Smart decision number 2.
Did I mention she was crazy? Insanely jealous of any other woman even if it was just work colleagues. She wouldn’t even f~~~ me so I told her if I can’t get it at home I will get it somewhere else. When she found out I had f~~~ed other women, she went ballistic. Tore down all the pinups I had on the garage walls and only left a small piece of paper showing a pussy, on which she scrawled “how many of these have you had while we were married?”After I moved out she followed a friend of mine in her car to find out where I was living and vandalised my car in the night. Again she scratched almost metal deep in the trunk lid a spiel about me f~~~ing other women. ( to be fair, I was screwing a college friend at the night it happened !)
I then went around to the marital home, a big and physical argument happened and then the cops turned up at my new place shortly after with an AVO ( Aprehended Violence Order) She told the cops I had a gun which they found unlocked and loaded along with a few half dead dope plants I had in the yard. But they did f~~~ all about the damage to my beloved V8 HZ Premier !
So we went to court for the AVO and I got an extra bit of court time to answer for the gun and weed. Goodbye security licence and hullo criminal record. Thanks you slut. And the cops took the gun which was a nice .22 rifle. But at least I was free. Felt great, really felt good to do my own thing.She would follow me and stalk me when I visited friends and the whole 10 years was just a miserable, restrictive time in my life. I should have left sooner. We sold the house and split the proceeds 50/50. No kids means no alimony or child support which in this country has f~~~ed over many a good man as fellow Aussie members here will attest to. Eventually we got a divorce.
At least the bitch was a good cook and house wife unlike myself who never learned to cook and still can’t. So I decided I should probably find somebody else, somebody completely opposite and that’s what I did. We are still living together exactly 20 years after we met. And we hit it off so well, I moved in with her almost immediately on meeting her. Once again, the sex is non existant or starfish in nature but at least this time she doesn’t really care if I get it elsewhere. Sounds perfect doesn’t it?
Now this woman is highly intelligent with a well paying job, a good personality, awesome cooking skills and is possibly the smartest most capable person I have known. Strong independent woman? Quite possibly. She looks after me in every way except affection, cold as a fish in that regard. But she nursed me back to health for many months when I got sick, has supported me financially to the tune of thousands of dollars and loves nothing more than to spend money on me. I have to be careful saying that I like something as she will just go and buy it for me. That’s how she rolls. I get to go overseas alone and she pays for most of it. I have total freedom to visit friends, go to concerts, buy vehicles, you name it. It’s the most bizzare relationship. Friends without benefits is how I would describe it. We have been through a lot together, illnesses, elderly parents dying and being cared for by us and family fights over estates and wills.
But we do everything separately, it’s not how I wanted to live but it could be a whole lot worse as we all know. She is a genuinely good person and I owe her more than I could ever repay. And she helps me out heaps financially which enables me to see the odd hooker every now and then.My sister is a nasty man hating bitch. Called the cops on me once saying “I feel threatened” when I refused to leave mum’s house and we were fighting over mum’s money and affairs. It sounds like that is the buzz term these cows use to summon their protectionist police force whenever things don’t go their way. I feel threatened. F~~~ing moll. She always hated me for a: being born when she thought she would be the only child and b: being born with a penis and not being afraid of her. Dad also thought she was a f~~~wit but he was actually quite blue pill when I think about it. Mum was cold and strict and dad rarely stood up to her. See a pattern developing here? I started to see women in a new light a long time before MGTOW came along.
C~~~s at work. This is where I am finally developing my ghosting technique to a fine art. I have been fired from good jobs for simply asking one of these entitled bitches for something in a professional and non rude manner. They immediately complain about my attitude and tell the mostly female management and HR f~~~wits that I was rude. I just can’t win against these c~~~s so I avoid them like the plague. I can’t even make small talk anymore with them even the hot looking ones. They are just not worth it and neither are half the so called men out there.
Sorry about the long rant, but I really am becoming so intolerant of women in all their forms. I have seen and experienced enough of them and reading some of the horror stories here just reinforces that view.
Thanks for having me here and I look forward to contributing in a meaningful way to this aweseome community of MEN.
" I feel threatened "
Topic: Things are looking up
Hey guys. I just want to post an update on my situation. I posted my story in the Introductions forum about a month ago.
A lot of good things happened in the past week.
The bitch finally moved out!!!!!!
This woman is the Queen of Clutter. She had piles of crap everywhere in my condo. I couldn’t open a draw without it jamming, or open a closet or cabinet without crap falling down off the shelves. I cant begin to tell you guys how much living that way really p~~~ed me off.
Although she still has some crap here. Most of it is gone.
At my insistence, she now has to call or text before coming by to pickup more of her stuff. I think it is really important to enforce that boundary. My condo is NOT her home anymore.
A couple months before all this disruption on my life, I started a whole food plant-based diet. I felt great and was rapidly dropping weight. I lowered my cholesterol and blood pressure dramatically. My GI function improved and I felt so much better. I highly recommend it!
After she announced her plans to leave, I found it very difficult to be around her. I was eating out every night and hanging out at the movies or in bars. Anything to to avoid her sorry ass. It’s impossible to eat plant-based in restaurants. All that eating out cost me a fortune and side-tracked my healthy eating effort.
First thing Saturday morning, I bagged up all the processed food, candy, meat, dairy etc. she left behind. I put it in my truck and hauled it to the dump.
I spent this weekend cleaning and reorganizing my kitchen. I scrubbed out my fridge and re-stocked it with lots of healthy fruit and veggies. I cleaned out the remaining clutter out my pantry and kitchen cabinets. I boxed up her remaining crap and left it in the garage for her to pickup. I also tossed out a lot of my own stuff that I no longer use. My kitchen is completely de-cluttered. I can easily get to everything I need. I can’t begin to tell you guys how good that feels.
Now for the legal stuff.
Earlier this week she made comments about alimony and getting some somekind financial interest in my condo. Staying true to her form, she brought this up as I was leaving her place after spending two hours on the phone with Comcast trying to get her cable TV and internet working. F~~~ing bitch has incredible timing. No good deed goes unpunished. My response was “good luck with that”.
A couple days later, I had a consultation with a divorce attorney. We were only married 3 1/2 years. I bought the condo several years prior to the marriage with a huge (almost 50%) down payment. The attorney said, “I don’t see a lot of exposure for you”. There is a moderate difference in our incomes. However, she works 4 days a week and I work 5 or more. Our hourly pay rates are about equal. There is a very small possibility she could get some alimony. But, due to the law in our state and the short duration of the marriage, it would be a small amount for less than two years. It appears that I will get through this s~~~ show with my assets intact. That said, he advised me to file for divorce sooner rather than later. Filing “stops the clock” on the length of the marriage.
I was going to try to get her to agree to mediation and then filing jointly. But given her attitude, I’m thinking of putting the attorney on retainer and having him file for divorce right away.
I saved the best for last.
I’ve been working as a contract employee for the last two months. I found out this week they are hiring me as a permanent full-time employee. I can expect the official offer sometime next week, when the background check is completed.
It’s been a pretty damn good week. Thanks for reading this guys.
"Nobody loves me, but my mother, And she could be jivin` too." - B. B. King
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