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Dude–Unless the circumstances of your marriage and recent divorce were highly unusual, the answer to your question may already rest in your own experience. But, as many commenters have said already, you may not want to acknowledge it because the need for validation that a sexual union can offer in the future is talking louder in your head than the experiences of your past. If you understand why dating seems so unsatisfying, you can conclude next that the validation you’re after causes more disorder than it could ever be worth. Love those who love you. Otherwise, it’s miserable. You’ve got your health, your strength, your business, your skills and interests and a sexual outlet. Find validation there. Just my opinion.
Keymaster really has said all there is to say about this.
If you can afford to bang sugar whores then why would you need to complicate your life with a relations~~~?" I feel threatened "
I wanted a good woman to have a life with.
THERE’S.
NO.
SUCH.
THING.When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
A couple of things to add here for you to think about:
1. Self esteem. See the first word? SELF. You don’t get self esteem from validation from others. You can list all of the good things about yourself, and it’s a damn good list. So you shouldn’t be struggling with yourself this hard unless you have low self esteem. From the outside looking in, that appears to be your struggle.
2. You say you aren’t happy. But you have to learn how to be happy with yourself first. I’ve actually said this to my daughter about a boy she dated for a little while. He was never happy and she was worried about it, like it was up to her to make him happy. My comment was “So, he has a girlfriend and you have a job. How convenient for him.” If you really do want to be in a relationship, you can’t give the other person a job, you have to give them a companion.
3. Keymaster is 100% correct. It’s not about happy. It’s about content. You should be very content with the life you have. You’ve done very well for yourself. You can go see your favorite band play and walk out of the concert very happy. Then you get to your car and see a flat tire. Now, you’re not “happy” anymore. No one lives “happily ever after”. But they can live content ever after.
Order the good wine
@Opt out.
This is the truth. Especially the modern day woman.
western women and those who are touched my feminism especially. I’ve recently been in touch with latin american Colombian people and their women seems to be still intact but once u take them out of them environment or their laws change u never know how they will behave. so it’s still a big risk, but its nice to spend time with a girl who acts like a FEMALE granted u don’t stay there long enough to see their bad side.
I think it’s time men learn how to fill in some of these roles for eachother, because even though we’re perfectly fine 99% of the time, there comes times in life we could really use some support, and a little nurture.
ever since I found MGTOW I made it a mission to empower men from all walks of life. we men lack the hive mind thinking women have. and we don’t have a support network in place. I made a vow with myself to only be positive toward other men. they take priority over helping or anything else over women and if I don’t like something I keep my mouth shot toward them. I also don’t mingle with other mens women. if shes a bitch I would lure her in, squire evidence and present it to her bf. did that back in 2008, so much fun she went ballistic!
I found a couple males who do it well, one is straight, and one is gay, but both helped me more than any bitch ever has
this is true. if your going through any rough time only a man would help you out. there are some exceptions though I know a girl who is raised by a strong father figure. she still play girls mind games but whenever i approach her needing help she delivers without asking anything in return, just like a dude but I would only give credit to her dad as his her role model anyway. but the majority of women out there wouldn’t give u a hand if u needed something. heck u have a better chance of asking for help from a guy u barely know than any of ur female friends u’ve known for years.
suffice to say whenever I invest in any friendship with a guy I rarely regret it. but with girls, they think it’s a give that u should do things for them. if u buy a guy a beer u’ll feel more appreciated than if u buy a bitch a expensive pair of shoes that cost 10x that.you havn’t taken the red pill yet my friend. if u can’t be happy alone u’ll never be happy with anyone.
all this list u posted doesn’t mean nothing if ur a nice guy to women. and u seem like a nice guy. don’t change for them, invest all the energy ur willing to put in a relationship toward cultivating a good friendship with ur male buddies. women will always disappoint u.
This is truth. Life is meaningless if you can’t obtain happiness for yourself.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
You are essentially depending on a woman to tell you you’re “good enough” through offering you a relationship. This makes you needy, and despite having all the other right “attributes”, you are probably exuding neediness left and right to these women without even realizing it.
I could sit here all day and tell you what you need to do to land a “relationship”, but I liken that to encouraging you to commit suicide.
Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!
ever since I found MGTOW I made it a mission to empower men from all walks of life. we men lack the hive mind thinking women have. and we don’t have a support network in place. I made a vow with myself to only be positive toward other men.
Spot on. You notice when a female has a breakup, or a car crash, or loses her job, or has a single ounce physical or emotional pain, the collective hive of women surround them with support. Not only that, but the vast blue pill males also offer anything and everything to help the female.
We see when men are down, they just get kicked, or they are labeled an outcast, looked at as a potential villain. I think a lot of men start internalizing this treatment, and in their minds start believing their pain makes them such, and so they act accordingly.
If males had 1/3rd the amount of collective support women have, the male prison population would drop like a hot potato, i believe.
My whole life, I wanted one thing. I wanted a good woman to have a life with. It was my “red ryder BB gun” that just never was under the tree at Christmas. Now, after swallowing the bitter red pill, I am left angry, disillusioned,hurt, depressed, and suicidal. And it occurs to me…. even with all I have going for me, I am still miserable. What could it be like for other guys who are not so lucky? I know that I will never be happy living alone. I just can not believe that this is how reality really is. I am sick, tired, and disgusted with the whole situation, yet going completely without females simply is not an option for me. The urge is too strong. I have no clue how to proceed.
I think I understand your frustration; many men think the same as you do. But right now, you’re too close to the situation to see that the only way out, is OUT. Many of us have landed on this forum because of the same frusrations that you express in your post. What you need to understand, and to spend some time assimilating, is this fact: the reason you want sex with attractive women so much is because that is EXACTLY how nature designed you. But, you’re also the most logical and introspective mammal on earth. You can, if you choose, spot patterns and avoid bad outcomes.
Now I’m going to give you a little bit of tough love. I’m going to speak to you frankly, perhaps more frankly than you’d like. But understand that I do so because I have been through this before, too, and I would have given anything to be rid of it.
If you even OCCASIONALLY have sex with an attractive woman, you’ve ALREADY gotten all the good there is to be had. What you seem to be lamenting (e.g., the “good woman” to share your life with, the female equvalent of the Red Ryder BB gun) is an ILLUSION. NO MAN HAS IT. All females see sex as transactional — even the ugly ones! And that hot, sexy unicorn you’re coveting comes with a metric S~~~LOAD of debts, problems, other men’s kids, and the hotter she is, the worse YOUR life is going to be. Because she will ALWAYS expect you to give her all of what you have, financially, emotionally, and physically.
In her mind, that’s the rightful price of admission to her pussy: everything you have. And if YOU can’t be badgered into paying that ever-increasing cost, there’s always some OTHER “handsome, fit, big-dick man” who will…the man she will reliably monkey branch to, right after she cleans out your f~~~ing pockets in divorce court.
You say that you will never be happy alone. You lament not having a happy life, yet you immediately start putting conditions upon what you’re willing to accept. How do you know you’ll never have a happy life? Why are you letting some woman you don’t even know have that kind of hold on you? I ask you these questions, and I am ready with an answer. The reason that you are doing this is because that is how nature designed you. To put your own welfare second to the biological imperative of propagating your species.
Put your big dick down and THINK for a second.
The animating principle of all life on Earth is to replicate itself and then die. That is the one thing you, me, every other man on this forum, hell, even the damned bacteria on my fingertips have in common. Now, that would be all fine and good if this was 1955 and this was Mad Men, and you could go around smacking women on the ass and making them bring you a martini. Society would still be structured to where things that you provide–the income, the security, the retirement–were still being rewarded by what she has to offer–being a respectable, attractive, classy wife in the light of day, conceding leadership of the marriage to you, and being a complete f~~~-toy in the sheets at night.
But it’s not 1955, Marty.
Look around. You are the most hated demographic in the world right now. A successful fit white man. And frankly, you had better thank your lucky stars that some woman hasn’t managed to get her hooks into you. If the things that you say are true, there is a nightmare of a woman waiting right down the street crouched behind a dumpster ready to jump out and hit you in the f~~~ing head with a baseball bat, take everything you have through the apparatus of the courts, and then leave you. Because that’s what nature designed HER to do. To always get the best deal. And no matter how big you think your dick is, you are NOT always going to be the best deal. And she’ll GET the best deal, too. To the applause of everybody on Facebook. And if you have the audacity to say that you were screwed in the deal, you’ll be told to check your privilege, white man.
Now, disagreeing with or not liking this state of affairs is perfectly understandable and reasonable. Hell you may stay up all night long losing sleep over it and pulling out that full head of hair that you have.
Or, you can spot the pattern and avoid it.
Think about it. If the objective of all life on Earth is to replicate itself, if you take away the desire to replicate, what does that mean? It leaves a sentient, intelligent being that has to provide its OWN self-generated motivation for living. And that’s really difficult to do if you can’t think abstractly. It’s impossible to do if all you can think about is getting your face between some woman’s legs. And that is WHY Nature Made you that way. Mother Nature doesn’t want to be fooled. She doesn’t want you to come to your senses until after you have planted that seed.
I’m not suggesting that you go without pussy. Believe me, I love pussy; nobody’s bigger on snooch than I am. But seconds of pleasure is not worth DECADES of long-term misery. That is the present reality that we live in, and being angry about it is roughly akin to being angry about rain. It’s just a physical feature of life.
There are plenty of men on this forum that would love to trade their situation for yours. They are trapped because of debt and obligation and children in marriages where there is no sex going on at all. They can’t so much as wind their f~~~ing watch without some mastodon of a wife DEMANDING to know what they’re doing.
Successful living as a man involves a set of values, or way of thinking. Chief among these is to be grateful for what you have and to not covet what you don’t. Because covetousness, all religious implications aside, is how human beings ascended to be the predominant life-form on the planet. It’s built into our nature to always want to improve our situation. So we look over at the other caveman and see he’s got a hotter cavewoman than we do. It animates us to compete harder to get that hot cavewoman, or a bigger cave, or a better job down at the Bedrock Quarry. That might still be fine if we were in the ascendance of the civilization, and human beings were in danger of dying out. But it isn’t. There is no good reason for you to burn yourself up like this.
You already have the tools right there in your hands and the conditions to have whatever kind of life you want. But to think that a woman is going to make it all complete is a mirage. A mirage that you will chase until your dying day unless you choose to just quit chasing it. This is like a gigantic weight that you are carrying around, but it has a handle on it, and you are fully empowered to just let go of it.
If you need to pound it out, then go pound it out. Be a sugar daddy. Because at the end of the day, that’s what you would be anyway. At least this way, she leaves whenever you’ve gotten all the good out of her.
And spend some time thinking about your own nature. Spend some time being situationally aware. The next time you’re out at a restaurant or seeing a movie or buying groceries, look around. How many men your age do you see that look truly at peace and happy? Not many, I will venture. How many of them are overweight, worried, burdened? Ask yourself if they would be that way if they weren’t endlessly having their resources extracted from them in some kind of outdated, broken, lopsided social compact that says a good man should provide for a woman. Now, is what you have so bad?
You sound like a smart guy, you write very well and very clearly. Even if your initial impulse is to disagree with me, try it on for size for a few days and see if it sticks. You won’t have lost anything. You’re not going to walk through the graveyard and see any gravestones that say, I wish I had been more angry and more bitter and more unfulfilled.
The best way to break a bad habit is to replace it with a good one. Every time you covet some hot woman, just go do something useful that improves your situation, or something that you really enjoy doing.
When you start doing that, I expect you’ll find that women start picking up on your internal happiness, and THEY start pursuing YOU. Because if you constantly make hot women your only objective, they couldn’t care less. When they see a man living his life peacefully and for his own reasons, they zero in on it like sharks at feeding time. You’ll probably get more ass than a toilet seat.
By then you may not even want it anymore because you’ll see what a rigged game it really is and what the objective truly is. To separate you from your abundance and resources.
Saying that you’re suicidal over not being able to get a hot woman is actually fatuously insulting to people who are having real problems. To me, that sounds like being angry that you didn’t get a chance to get your face blown off at Gettysburg or the Battle of the Somme.
Now that I cut you up a little bit, I’m going to put a bandaid on it. I’m glad that you shared these feelings with us. We can help you if we if you will let us. Now go out and live the life that you have been given. Time is a gift.
"Higgins: Magnum, feed the lads, would you? There are steaks in the freezer. [Magnum makes an excited face] Very well, you can have one too."
They’re looking for the perfect combination of attributes…which you don’t have. Which I don’t have. Which no man has. They want the impossible and they want it to be approved by the herd. Which is also impossible.
There are many things you forgot to add to your list. Here are just a few:
1. ‘Trendy’ haircut
2. ‘Trendy’ clothes
3. The ‘right’ shoes
4. Do you make them laugh on command?
5. Do you deviate from ‘normal’ in your ‘adult’ pursuits?I have been a gym rat since I was 16, and sometimes I wonder why I torture myself four times a week when it’s ‘normal’ to watch football all season, eat nachos and get fat. Yes, a woman told me that. Apparently being in shape and liking Super Heroes isn’t ‘normal’.
Whatever positive attributes you have, they will pick apart and go to the 99 simps in the on deck circle. Use them for sex if you must. Nothing more.
My advice to you, quit giving a f~~~. It will set you free.
Fuck this planet.My whole life, I wanted one thing. I wanted a good woman to have a life with. It was my “red ryder BB gun” that just never was under the tree at Christmas. Now, after swallowing the bitter red pill, I am left angry, disillusioned,hurt, depressed, and suicidal. And it occurs to me…. even with all I have going for me, I am still miserable. What could it be like for other guys who are not so lucky? I know that I will never be happy living alone. I just can not believe that this is how reality really is. I am sick, tired, and disgusted with the whole situation, yet going completely without females simply is not an option for me. The urge is too strong. I have no clue how to proceed.
I think I understand your frustration; many men think the same as you do. But right now, you’re too close to the situation to see that the only way out, is OUT. Many of us have landed on this forum because of the same frusrations that you express in your post. What you need to understand, and to spend some time assimilating, is this fact: the reason you want sex with attractive women so much is because that is EXACTLY how nature designed you. But, you’re also the most logical and introspective mammal on earth. You can, if you choose, spot patterns and avoid bad outcomes.
Now I’m going to give you a little bit of tough love. I’m going to speak to you frankly, perhaps more frankly than you’d like. But understand that I do so because I have been through this before, too, and I would have given anything to be rid of it.
If you even OCCASIONALLY have sex with an attractive woman, you’ve ALREADY gotten all the good there is to be had. What you seem to be lamenting (e.g., the “good woman” to share your life with, the female equvalent of the Red Ryder BB gun) is an ILLUSION. NO MAN HAS IT. All females see sex as transactional — even the ugly ones! And that hot, sexy unicorn you’re coveting comes with a metric S~~~LOAD of debts, problems, other men’s kids, and the hotter she is, the worse YOUR life is going to be. Because she will ALWAYS expect you to give her all of what you have, financially, emotionally, and physically.
In her mind, that’s the rightful price of admission to her pussy: everything you have. And if YOU can’t be badgered into paying that ever-increasing cost, there’s always some OTHER “handsome, fit, big-dick man” who will…the man she will reliably monkey branch to, right after she cleans out your f~~~ing pockets in divorce court.
You say that you will never be happy alone. You lament not having a happy life, yet you immediately start putting conditions upon what you’re willing to accept. How do you know you’ll never have a happy life? Why are you letting some woman you don’t even know have that kind of hold on you? I ask you these questions, and I am ready with an answer. The reason that you are doing this is because that is how nature designed you. To put your own welfare second to the biological imperative of propagating your species.
Put your big dick down and THINK for a second.
The animating principle of all life on Earth is to replicate itself and then die. That is the one thing you, me, every other man on this forum, hell, even the damned bacteria on my fingertips have in common. Now, that would be all fine and good if this was 1955 and this was Mad Men, and you could go around smacking women on the ass and making them bring you a martini. Society would still be structured to where things that you provide–the income, the security, the retirement–were still being rewarded by what she has to offer–being a respectable, attractive, classy wife in the light of day, conceding leadership of the marriage to you, and being a complete f~~~-toy in the sheets at night.
But it’s not 1955, Marty.
Look around. You are the most hated demographic in the world right now. A successful fit white man. And frankly, you had better thank your lucky stars that some woman hasn’t managed to get her hooks into you. If the things that you say are true, there is a nightmare of a woman waiting right down the street crouched behind a dumpster ready to jump out and hit you in the f~~~ing head with a baseball bat, take everything you have through the apparatus of the courts, and then leave you. Because that’s what nature designed HER to do. To always get the best deal. And no matter how big you think your dick is, you are NOT always going to be the best deal. And she’ll GET the best deal, too. To the applause of everybody on Facebook. And if you have the audacity to say that you were screwed in the deal, you’ll be told to check your privilege, white man.
Now, disagreeing with or not liking this state of affairs is perfectly understandable and reasonable. Hell you may stay up all night long losing sleep over it and pulling out that full head of hair that you have.
Or, you can spot the pattern and avoid it.
Think about it. If the objective of all life on Earth is to replicate itself, if you take away the desire to replicate, what does that mean? It leaves a sentient, intelligent being that has to provide its OWN self-generated motivation for living. And that’s really difficult to do if you can’t think abstractly. It’s impossible to do if all you can think about is getting your face between some woman’s legs. And that is WHY Nature Made you that way. Mother Nature doesn’t want to be fooled. She doesn’t want you to come to your senses until after you have planted that seed.
I’m not suggesting that you go without pussy. Believe me, I love pussy; nobody’s bigger on snooch than I am. But seconds of pleasure is not worth DECADES of long-term misery. That is the present reality that we live in, and being angry about it is roughly akin to being angry about rain. It’s just a physical feature of life.
There are plenty of men on this forum that would love to trade their situation for yours. They are trapped because of debt and obligation and children in marriages where there is no sex going on at all. They can’t so much as wind their f~~~ing watch without some mastodon of a wife DEMANDING to know what they’re doing.
Successful living as a man involves a set of values, or way of thinking. Chief among these is to be grateful for what you have and to not covet what you don’t. Because covetousness, all religious implications aside, is how human beings ascended to be the predominant life-form on the planet. It’s built into our nature to always want to improve our situation. So we look over at the other caveman and see he’s got a hotter cavewoman than we do. It animates us to compete harder to get that hot cavewoman, or a bigger cave, or a better job down at the Bedrock Quarry. That might still be fine if we were in the ascendance of the civilization, and human beings were in danger of dying out. But it isn’t. There is no good reason for you to burn yourself up like this.
You already have the tools right there in your hands and the conditions to have whatever kind of life you want. But to think that a woman is going to make it all complete is a mirage. A mirage that you will chase until your dying day unless you choose to just quit chasing it. This is like a gigantic weight that you are carrying around, but it has a handle on it, and you are fully empowered to just let go of it.
If you need to pound it out, then go pound it out. Be a sugar daddy. Because at the end of the day, that’s what you would be anyway. At least this way, she leaves whenever you’ve gotten all the good out of her.
And spend some time thinking about your own nature. Spend some time being situationally aware. The next time you’re out at a restaurant or seeing a movie or buying groceries, look around. How many men your age do you see that look truly at peace and happy? Not many, I will venture. How many of them are overweight, worried, burdened? Ask yourself if they would be that way if they weren’t endlessly having their resources extracted from them in some kind of outdated, broken, lopsided social compact that says a good man should provide for a woman. Now, is what you have so bad?
You sound like a smart guy, you write very well and very clearly. Even if your initial impulse is to disagree with me, try it on for size for a few days and see if it sticks. You won’t have lost anything. You’re not going to walk through the graveyard and see any gravestones that say, I wish I had been more angry and more bitter and more unfulfilled.
The best way to break a bad habit is to replace it with a good one. Every time you covet some hot woman, just go do something useful that improves your situation, or something that you really enjoy doing.
When you start doing that, I expect you’ll find that women start picking up on your internal happiness, and THEY start pursuing YOU. Because if you constantly make hot women your only objective, they couldn’t care less. When they see a man living his life peacefully and for his own reasons, they zero in on it like sharks at feeding time. You’ll probably get more ass than a toilet seat.
By then you may not even want it anymore because you’ll see what a rigged game it really is and what the objective truly is. To separate you from your abundance and resources.
Saying that you’re suicidal over not being able to get a hot woman is actually fatuously insulting to people who are having real problems. To me, that sounds like being angry that you didn’t get a chance to get your face blown off at Gettysburg or the Battle of the Somme.
Now that I cut you up a little bit, I’m going to put a bandaid on it. I’m glad that you shared these feelings with us. We can help you if we if you will let us. Now go out and live the life that you have been given. Time is a gift.
F~~~ that non working link.
Awesome dude.
Fuck this planet.I have been a gym rat since I was 16, and sometimes I wonder why I torture myself four times a week when it’s ‘normal’ to watch football all season, eat nachos and get fat. Yes, a woman told me that. Apparently being in shape and liking Super Heroes isn’t ‘normal’.
Bro that is me in a nutshell.I’m also in graduate school for business. My state tuition is covered by the state of Texas due to being a ward of the state in my childhood. I have a decent IT job in an optometry/ophthalmology firm. I also have other entrepreneurial endeavors on the side. That still isn’t a “ideal” enough for women now a days. I just say f~~~ it.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
My advice to you, quit giving a f~~~. It will set you free.
That’s really what it’s all about, but it’s not something one can fake or instantly force themselves into feeling. It has to be real, and a lot of times what it takes is for life to kick the everloving s~~~ out of them.
But once that point is reached everything changes. Everything. There is no greater weapon a man can have that not giving a s~~~.
Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!
I was pretty much in your position when my wife passed in 2015.
The problem is not that you’re “not good enough”.
The problem is — >> you still think you need to be.After trying to promote myself on social media, offering what I thought was everything a women wanted, all I got was the occasional slure land whale checking my account, NEVER sending me a message.
I bashed my head against this wall of online silence for about a year, when finally the red pill took effect and…
…quit giving a f~~~. It will set you free.
Life’s been far better once I just let go and went my own way.
The one thing that’s reaffirming my MGTOW beliefs is prepping.
Once you sit down and seriously think what you bring to the table, verse what very little a woman brings, you quickly see how they will be a detriment to your survival.
Then you throw in the liability of having to protect them from marauders, crazies and frenzied rapists, you quickly see that having a women in your survivalist group is like walking though a dog yard of rabid Rottweilers, wearing a meat suit.
Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.That’s really what it’s all about, but it’s not something one can fake or instantly force themselves into feeling. It has to be real, and a lot of times what it takes is for life to kick the everloving s~~~ out of them.
Yep. It takes some serious ass whoopings to reach NFG.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
You’re going have start treating them like s~~~ or make more money to attract the girls you’re looking for.
Or just jerkoff to avoid the wasted time, money, and emotional investment that is required to maybe f~~~ her once in awhile.
SweetDaddy…
If you came here truly looking for an answer to your situation, you have come to the right place. You may have to do a little sorting but the answer/s are here.
Especially Keymaster’s first post. Re-read it and cut and paste some of the key points.Changing how you think (Literally), by trying to have different conscious thoughts is how you do it. And what you should be thinking and telling yourself is in these posts.
Capslock Spelczech tells you WHY the world of women is like it is. Keymaster tells you WHAT TO DO about it!All I would add is, Be patient! Be Realistic. If the 8-10’s aren’t capable of the type of situation you want, maybe consider
the 6-8’s that are. Your Expectations are Exceeding your Reality!!If sex isn’t ALL this is for you, then consider what it is you DO want. Life and relationships are about Trade-Off’s!
The world and the women in it, ARE NOT going to change!
You have to! SO, your Focus should now be about you and what has not been working for you. Start thinking on the things and ways YOU can change and Be a BETTER MAN!
Do this for your sake ,, and not for any woman..
Good Luck..Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!
Anonymous5Well you can’t Teleport or fly so unfortunately in some pathetic self-induced vision of the “perfect man” some woman will only see a cover until that very cover on that book is old. Than the childish blame comes that you never desired or asked for. Is this a constant? No there are great relationships; But in the context of your post- Man don’t worry seriously what is this?- you’ll: “never be happy living alone” ? Bro that is your choice, but remember you can change that perception at anytime. Or you can suffer until you cave to that perception (Not a bad thing at all, if that is what you really want/ your drive in life). For me it was the very present thought (at the time before my little baby steps towards this information portal known as MGTOW) of “being alone/unwanted (even though I got great friends and a great job) for being a single male” – I guess in a sense; but the reasoning behind that apparent “need” made no f~~~ing sense to me. It seemed like something.. like a true addiction, a real task and challenge for myself to overcome. It can be exciting what happens to you when you deny yourself – well ask me personally. Great Post btw and “good luck” Hahaha!!
to the ones I bought drinks for
Well that was your first mistake.
Never buy them anything. Ever.
I know that I should just give up.
It’s not giving up. It’s wising up.
I know that I should just stop even speaking to women.
And when you do, when you truly stop giving a f~~~ about them, they come chasing after you. But by then you won’t care. But that is not your problem.
I’m in a very different situation from you. Still married and a couple years older. She would NEVER divorce me, but she is lazy regarding what I want despite me giving her everything for over a quarter of a century.
What’s my point? Even if you get a decent 23 year old 7 today, before you kick she’ll be a 43 year old former 7 in twenty years. I’m not trying to kill you at 62, just follow the math. Your fortune will have increased, and her depleted assets now get your final payout. She plants you and lives a comfortable life for the rest of her days.
Meanwhile what did she lose? She had a tall man with a decent c~~~ that gave her orgasms (when she wanted) for twenty years that paid for everything. What did you get?
Work, sex when she wants it, and an occasional actual moment of tenderness or connections.
Who cares what their expectations are?
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
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