The ridiculously high, unattainable standards of women

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

I was a pretty well off nice guy and couldn’t hardly ever get a woman. Now i’m an older pretty well off asshole and success rate with women has gone up. But now i’m not even really that interested in them anymore either as an asshole or a nice guy, they’re just simply not worth the time, effort and money. I have a way better time hanging with friends. It was companionship that I really wanted , and that’s kind of general neutral.

[rebelandboltmanParticipant 640]

Don’t even worry about the high, unattainable standards of women.

In fact, be grateful if you don’t meet set standards.

In the long run, you dodge many a bullet.

[IntellectualSaviorParticipant 1238]

FunInTheSun wrote:

There are beautiful women in many different nations who don’t grow up with expensive cars and electronic gadgets. They get by without first world luxuries and super-sized meals. They don’t live in stylish homes. And they aren’t high maintenance. They will respect the hard-working, good men that spoiled women reject—particularly the ones in the USA.

I agree, you’re not wrong or anything but that still doesn’t change AWALT because of the hypergamy.
She may not want the richest man and go for the man who makes 3k a month but still she is in it for the 3k and once you take it away she will leave. The problem is not about them being humble and settling for less the problem is the mindset, she will still want a proposal ring maybe nothing too expensive but still. And she will want everything in the name of marriage and that bargain is not in favor of the man.

Things will change and they will really be NAWALT when they start marrying someone from the lower status. In my mind I do think a man should be higher in the marriage but at least we are honest about it we don’t get behind lies or equalism but woman want their cake and eat it to so I say “here’s your cake and if you want to eat it too buy me a ring will ya?”

Honesty my friends, honesty is the key.

When I have a pen in my hands, it's lethal.

[SweetDaddyDom420Participant 391]

All of this has been very thought provoking. And I could totally let women go….. except for the fact that I know a very few who are actually pretty decent. I just don’t want to f~~~ them.
It seems that the attention that attractive women get is what ruins them. Again, we are not talking about women who are out of my league. Nobody is more realistic about what their league is than me. I am talking about women who are on the level with women I have had long term relationships in the past. But their entitlement is just nauseating. Through social media and the like, they get hit on 100 times a day, and begin to get the idea that a good man is replaceable because he left the ketchup out on the table. This s~~~ is completely maddening. Only time will tell if it kills me or not. But right now, the red pill rage is winning.

[Anonymous 3]

@sweetdaddydom420, awesome contributions you get here. It is to much for one man to assimilate at once…

I will just throw you a sentence that is not mine:
“Dominates a relationship the one that cares the least about it.”

You care to much, they care too little.

[NeroParticipant 1466]

@sweetdaddydom420@: I get what you’re saying. I live in Southern Cal and the hypergamy is off the f~~~ing charts. I’m on Match.com, and you can’t take them seriously. I found I get more responses by NFG trolling techniques, basically calling them out on their hypergamy. I admit it has not gotten me a date that way, but I love doing it. The only date I had was with a woman who had the f~~~ing guts to message me first and come at me. She wasn’t attractive “enough” but we had a decent time. I’m about to ghost on this hell hole soon, though. I will, however, go out with a bang.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

I see you’ve been listening to cosmo magazine, women dont know what they want but they do desire assholes, your whole list you never said you were an asshole so 9 out 10 women wont want anything long term with you because its not exciting enough.

Many great responses on this thread, but this was the most on point. The last person you should believe regarding what women look for in men is A WOMAN. They’re just regurgitating the same nonsense they saw on TV. People make jokes about how men only want one thing from a woman, while a woman wants 100s of things from a man. It’s not actually true. There is only one…I repeat, ONE…factor that determines whether she wants you. Do you give her gina tingles? If so, you’re in. If not, you’re out.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 3]

How can you still be so thirsty at 42?

Probably you’ve made it a point to have sex at least every month or two. Stop for like a half year or year and you’ll completely lose all interest in women.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

I don’t know how you guys have any patience for online dating. Who cares what they think they can “get” anyway. They might get f~~~ed easily enough but most are s~~~ at making a relationship work or possessing a modicum of understanding as to how to keep a guy around. NFG is becoming easier and easier. Stop taking them seriously. They don’t define your worth. They don’t define s~~~…
Even trying to be “the jerk women love” is far more effort than they warrant or deserve.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[BeerParticipant 11832]

IntellectualSavior wrote:

I agree, you’re not wrong or anything but that still doesn’t change AWALT because of the hypergamy.

I’ve always thought that bringing a foreign woman back to America was pretty much bringing a time bomb home and waiting for it to go bang. They aren’t stupid…they’ll come here, see how other women have it, learn the rules, and f~~~ you over.

If I was going to try to hook up with a foreign woman, I think I’d go to her country, preferably somewhere where a foreigner couldn’t own property. I’d then find one of said traditional, humble women who treated me right, and buy a house in her name with a mortgage for the longest possible term I could get. As long as she treated me nicely I’d pay the mortgage…if the nice treatment stopped I’d simply stop paying and move along.

You may be thinking Beer…what the f~~~ is wrong with you…but think about it for a minute…a mortgage on an upper middle class home in a lot of countries after money conversion rates and much lower property values than you’d find here would probably be about as much as a mediocre apartment would cost me. If she did turn into a nasty c~~~ at any point in time not only would I be able to easily walk away, but I’d get to laugh my ass off while doing it knowing she’d be losing the house when I stopped footing the bill.

She wouldn’t be the one ruining me if we split, which is how marriage works here…I’d be the one ruining her if we split…but hey…I’d rather f~~~ an ex over than be f~~~ed over by an ex.

[Anonymous 3]

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

I don’t know how you guys have any patience for online dating. Who cares what they think they can “get” anyway. They might get f~~~ed easily enough but most are s~~~ at making a relationship work or possessing a modicum of understanding as to how to keep a guy around. NFG is becoming easier and easier. Stop taking them seriously. They don’t define your worth. They don’t define s~~~…
Even trying to be “the jerk women love” is far more effort than they warrant or deserve.

Yeah I just don’t get it. Yes in my teens and twenties, with passions running hot. But by your early-30s, I just don’t understand men that act so desperate and act like sex is this unattainable, earth shattering, incredible thing.

And I’m a man that has literally had sex with models, athletes, and had four girls at once. The majority of my experience is in the 18-24 range of women, which objectively people admit is the prime age for women, and objectively the women I’ve bedded have consistently been 9-10s, as I’ve had plenty of men ask for my seconds and tell me how amazing I was for it. Eventually I stopped caring altogether.

Funny thing was, back in college one of the guys a year or two older than me, actually a few that were successful with women and that I respected, saw what I was doing and they pretty much all told me “it will get old”. I did not at all believe them at the time, and only understood once I hit my early-30s and to my mid-30s.

I still cannot fathom how men get married from that age on, and how men can even tolerate these older women that just don’t have sex appeal. I couldn’t even find older women attractive when I was young, and now I don’t even find young women attractive. Sometimes a part of my brain says a girl is attractive or in the past I’d have found her attractive, but I just can’t drum up any interest whatsoever.

Women claimed marriage was oppressive for them, but I am of the opinion that women marrying young and staying married was the absolute best thing they could get for themselves and why they insisted on it. They blew it all up now, and we’re seeing how things are adjusting again. But it’s created generations of completely worthless women that nobody will touch, like lepers. I think they really just don’t understand how the highest quality males completely lose interest as we age.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

Wtf??? Are you new? Jesus Christ you need to take a bunch of red pills and understand female nature. It’s worse here in the west. If you like company of high SMV women who aren’t in the throws of feminism, who know how to treat a man from everything I’ve been able to gather you’re looking at places like the Dominican republic Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe etc… NOT EU, USA, Canada, Australia or New Zealand.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

That’s a joke, right?
I hope it’s a joke, otherwise it have to be a tuna.

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[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Anonymous wrote:

Women claimed marriage was oppressive for them, but I am of the opinion that women marrying young and staying married was the absolute best thing they could get for themselves and why they insisted on it. They blew it all up now, and we’re seeing how things are adjusting again. But it’s created generations of completely worthless women that nobody will touch, like lepers. I think they really just don’t understand how the highest quality males completely lose interest as we age.

Being 25, I’m constantly horny. I’ve had girls come up to me and tell me I’m quite the catch, especially when I go out wearing one of my 5 tailored suits. This gets their hypergamy hamster wheel spinning. Women aren’t even too hard to figure out, nor are they that hard to come by. Women just don’t have anything of real substance to offer now. They talk about vapid and vacuous bulls~~~ that gets me so turned off, that I just want them to shut their damn trap. Women are only good for the pump and dump now.

I’m content with no longer giving a f~~~ about what they want in a man, because in their mind they will find some way to write you off. They think they are entitled to perfection. Women will always be miserable chasing fantasies. So why bother? This is the key to NFG.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[narwhalParticipant]

Eh. Women have the right to set whatever standards they want, and it’s not my problem if those standards leave them unhappy…or happy. I don’t care. All I know is that the idea of trying to convince a woman that I’m good enough for her…sounds utterly exhausting. I don’t want to do that.

If I spend my free time with a woman, or anyone really, I want it to be enjoyable. A woman who constantly expects me to put in to impressing her isn’t fun. I have plenty of other things to do with my time.

In short stop trying to blame a woman for not giving you what you want. If she doesn’t want to play, then it’s her choice. And most importantly, don’t try impress her. If you want to buy someone a drink, then do it because you want to buy someone a drink, not because you’re trying to get something out of them.

Ok. Then do it.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

42 years old and still caring about what women want…some men are destined to be on the plantation.

I used to be friends with a man that said that he preferred being friends with women than men. He stopped being friends with me because he got back together with his ex who didnt like me.

Women are cowards for the most part; they will only do things if they have protection or insurance. When you understand the nuances of women’s body language you realize how often they make subtle gestures to try to pressure someone to do something. If they like a man they will twirl their hair or giggle at everything he says until the end of days but never ask him out. They cannot handle the rejection so they put the onus on men to take the emotional pain of rejection.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

AT OP,
You write that ‘going without females is not an option for me…’. But then immediately write ‘I have no clue how to proceed’. If going without females is not an option for you, then I know exactly how you are going to proceed. You are going to proceed in whatever way those females that you can’t live without DICTATE to you that you are going to proceed. You are going to proceed this way because in your own words, you have no other option.

When I was much younger, I believed that I was getting behavior from women that was unacceptable. But at the time, I couldn’t live without sex either. So, I accepted a big load of unacceptable behavior. I complained about it, like you. And like you, I accepted that behavior because I was getting sex out of the arrangement that I couldn’t live without.

Women are not something that I can’t live without anymore. And so I don’t have that unacceptable behavior to deal with anymore. When you get enough sex from them to satisfy yourself once and for all, you can walk away and not have to deal with that behavior. Or, when you get enough unacceptable behavior from them that you are ready to walk away, then you will not have that behavior anymore.

Right now, you are just not at either point that would allow you to walk away. So, my advice is to just approach the decision with economics: charge back into interactions with women as ambitiously as you possibly can and get as much sex, and as much of that unacceptable behavior as you possibly can. Load up on both of them as fast as you can. This increase in volume of both will make the difference between value and cost easier for you to perceive, and you’ll be able to make a decision sooner.

If you can’t decide wether coffee is worth, say 1$ per pound, but you think you can’t live without coffee…then go buy 1000 pounds of it for 1000$ and see if it’s still worth it. If it is, you have all the coffee you could possibly want. If it isn’t, you can join all the masses of other people who live just fine without spending even 1$ on coffee…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Anonymous 42]

^^^^^ “Coffee” the real stuff, mmmmmmm mmmmmmmmm GOOD!

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

“Coffee” the real stuff, mmmmmmm mmmmmmmmm GOOD!

How did you guess what I’m drinking? I’m going to make another cup.

BrainPilot wrote:

my advice is to just approach the decision with economics: charge back into interactions with women as ambitiously as you possibly can and get as much sex, and as much of that unacceptable behavior as you possibly can. Load up on both of them as fast as you can.

That’s great advice. The unacceptable behavior is what finally split my skull.

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