Christian MGTOW – A Christian Guy struggles with The Red Pill

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

He seems to be finding his way.

Maybe our religious brothers could help, or our Atheist Brothers hinder?

Over to you..

It's Time to get Wise

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Watched the first 1:30. This will be very interesting. I wish I didn’t have so much to do today. I am in and out. I will finish it and comment later, but I can already tell he is in for a world of hurt with women. Nice, decent, thoughtful guy, raised in a religious family, somewhat socially awkward (he gets breathless here from talking to camera – I assume nerves).
Hopefully he finds his way through it and maybe even finds us at some point.

Good post Greg, thanks. More later.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Watched the first 1:30. This will be very interesting. I wish I didn’t have so much to do today. I am in and out. I will finish it and comment later, but I can already tell he is in for a world of hurt with women. Nice, decent, thoughtful guy, raised in a religious family, somewhat socially awkward (he gets breathless here from talking to camera – I assume nerves).
Hopefully he finds his way through it and maybe even finds us at some point.

Good post Greg, thanks. More later.

Thanks RPR,

I could see he was struggling so offered to post his vid here. I’m interested to see if his religion prevents him from going full MGTOW. Looking forwards to comments.

It's Time to get Wise

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

I’m a Christian and a MGTOW and I’m conflicted at times. At times I want to just be realistic and label myself as agnostic. I don’t know I’ve seen miracles, but I’m beginning to believe that religion is the biggest perpetrator of societal woes. I don’t really know at this moment. I’ll let you fellas know what I conclude after some soul searching.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 1]

I believe that since he has swallowed the redpill, and he got all the confirmations in real life about what he have discovered(like we all did), he need to crush his morals about women. It sounds maybe harsh or extreme, but you cannot apply your morals to the real world(maybe you can apply those to yourself, but not to other people), it just do not work that way. Respecting people just because someone told you people deserve respect, treating women always in a fair way, be good to all the people out there etc.

Now, I am agnostic, don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that you should be an asshole to everyone you meet, but let the people earn the respect, let the people earn your approval and your time/effort/money/whatever.

As an example: sometimes at the market where I buy my food there is a homeless man asking for help. Years ago I ignored him, but he had that attitude of always smiling, and not being too insistent in asking money. After some time, I started talking to him, he looked very f~~~ed up and he is from another country aswell, so I decided to give him a coin from time to time, then I decided to buy him some food instead, and it felt good to help him out. Usually I do not write those things, because I do not want people to judge me from those actions(I can be a great asshole too), to me helping out a random man/woman is just a good action, and even when I am short on money, a few coins do not change a lot for me. When I think a man/woman deserve it, I am all in, BUT it is not granted to anyone.

There is a big difference from using morals in your life, and evaluating case per case, I prefer to go with the second one, my morals still apply in some fields, but most of them were lost when I got enough of reality and knowledge.

[Anonymous 43]

problem with red pill is it gives insight into other aspects of life.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a big difference from using morals in your life, and evaluating case per case, I prefer to go with the second one, my morals still apply in some fields, but most of them were lost when I got enough of reality and knowledge.

Yeah this is where I am. I think reality is finally setting in for me. I’m leaning more on the agnostic side of things. I hate that I’m saying, this but why would GOD want anything to do with us? We have utterly f~~~ed this planet up. Women even more so…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

I fail to see how the Christian religion and MGTOW conflict. If anything the biblical writings fully support MGTOW. ONLY the clergy has pushed marriage and based only on a few random scriptures. The bulk of the bible is warnings about woman and or avoidance of them. Why do the clergy choose to ignore the MGTOW teachings while pushing their marriage agenda instead? Maybe it fills the collection plates better. I guess it’s up to you to follow the teaching of the clergy or follow the teachings of the bible. That’s where I see the conflict. I don’t recall Jesus being married. It seems to me you can choose either path MGTOW or Marriage and both fit perfectly well with the bible’s narratives and Christianity in general.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Great video. MGTOW is not opposed to Christianity. The Bible is very MGTOW. The problem is, modern Christianity is in bed with feminism, so your religious community will not approve of your choice. Don’t worry about what they think. You found out the truth for yourself. What are you going to believe, your own experience, or the same gynocentric bulls~~~ that’s been perpetrated upon unsuspecting men for generations and that HAS NOTHING TO DO with how the world actually works?

MGTOW Knight wrote:

At times I want to just be realistic and label myself as agnostic. I don’t know I’ve seen miracles, but I’m beginning to believe that religion is the biggest perpetrator of societal woes.

Don’t let modern religious bulls~~~ get in the way of your belief in God. God’s existence is perfectly compatible with MGTOW. The world may be f~~~ed up, but is that God’s fault, or humanity’s? God created a great world, but he gave us free will, and we used that free will to take a gigantic steaming dump on his creation.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Don’t let modern religious bulls~~~ get in the way of your belief in God. God’s existence is perfectly compatible with MGTOW. The world may be f~~~ed up, but is that God’s fault, or humanity’s? God created a great world, but he gave us free will, and we used that free will to take a gigantic steaming dump on his creation.

Yeah you are absolutely right. I’ve been having a lot of self doubt lately… BTW I would never be atheist. I believe GOD exist, I just think he doesn’t give a f~~~ anymore. Maybe he is the ultimate MGTOW with a NFG attitude about his creation.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 0]

He seems real sincere. May need a bit of help from some of the more experienced MGTOWs. Thanks for the link.

[AutoliteParticipant]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

I’m a Christian and a MGTOW and I’m conflicted at times. At times I want to just be realistic and label myself as agnostic. I don’t know I’ve seen miracles, but I’m beginning to believe that religion is the biggest perpetrator of societal woes. I don’t really know at this moment. I’ll let you fellas know what I conclude after some soul searching.

I’m afraid that it’s just something that you’re just going to have to sort out for your own individual self. Just don’t be afraid to be honest with yourself.

I, like many other unbelievers, was once a Christian myself. I think folks tend to forget that many if not most Atheists were once believers. Reality just kept punching me in the face until I could no longer ignore it. It was actually a long slow road to full-on Atheism. It didn’t just happen overnight. I just realized the truth and decided to just stop deluding myself.

It’s a determination that only you yourself can make…

[AutoliteParticipant]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

BTW I would never be atheist. I believe GOD exist, I just think he doesn’t give a f~~~ anymore.

What you’re talking about is called “Deism”. There’s nothing new about it, it’s been around for ages.

I guess it compromise for folks who see absolutely zero influence of a god, other than creation, and for whatever reason(s), just don’t want to call themselves Atheists. It seems to work for folks who are conflicted such as yourself…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Autolite wrote:

MGTOW Knight wrote:

I’m a Christian and a MGTOW and I’m conflicted at times. At times I want to just be realistic and label myself as agnostic. I don’t know I’ve seen miracles, but I’m beginning to believe that religion is the biggest perpetrator of societal woes. I don’t really know at this moment. I’ll let you fellas know what I conclude after some soul searching.

I’m afraid that it’s just something that you’re just going to have to sort out for your own individual self. Just don’t be afraid to be honest with yourself.

I, like many other unbelievers, was once a Christian myself. I think folks tend to forget that many if not most Atheists were once believers. Reality just kept punching me in the face until I could no longer ignore it. It was actually a long slow road to full-on Atheism. It didn’t just happen overnight. I just realized the truth and decided to just stop deluding myself.

It’s a determination that only you yourself can make…

I hear Ya’ Autolite,

I think the problem is, that we are introduced to religion through the Church and it’s iterpretation of the “Word of God”. Thing is, Religion and belief is Spiritual not accademic. It’s something that is just an abstract and seemingly outdated idea unless you have some kind of personal spiritual revelation. This kind of event is very rare, and talking openly about it will get you labelled nuts real quick.

I know people can brainwash themselves into a phoney endorphine induced “Revelalation”. But the real, (non hypnosis or cultist), thing that just hits you is f~~~ing awesome. It takes away all doubt about there being “something more”. It f~~~ing changes you for ever, but you can’t talk about it, a bit like MGTOW.

You realise that the world is not as it seems. That how you act and treat people matter. I don’t try and convince people about stuff like this if they haven’t already come accross it. You just can’t. It fails all scientific analysis, but, if you’ve had an experience, you know whats true.

I don’t push God on anyone, and in my life you’d never know I was a beleiver. I’m no saint, trust me. I don’t judge people who don’t beleive. As long as they don’t cuss and curse God I can hang with them no worries. It’s not for me to be a preacher. If God want’s to open their eyes he will.

Anyway, hope we’re good.

Another vid from this guy as he wakes up:

It's Time to get Wise

[AutoliteParticipant]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Yeah this is where I am. I think reality is finally setting in for me. I’m leaning more on the agnostic side of things. I hate that I’m saying, this but why would GOD want anything to do with us? We have utterly f~~~ed this planet up. Women even more so…

Julia Sweeney (yes a woman) had an interesting perspective on this. She talks about “Putting on the no-god glasses and then just having a quick look around”.

Spend about an hour or so each day and just assume or pretend that there is no god. See if the world starts to make sense…

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

If Christian men actually start to wake up that will be a pierce into the heart of Blue Pill…Thst would be really good for MGTOW and men across th board.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

PuniShredder wrote:

If Christian men actually start to wake up that will be a pierce into the heart of Blue Pill…Thst would be really good for MGTOW and men across th board.

That’s what I thought as well 🙂

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 1]

I was raised up Christian. It’s hard to go your own way after being brought up in a Church. Learning the truth about Christianity was devastating for me, but going on your own spiritual journey is a big part of Going Your Own Way, at least for me.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Great video. MGTOW is not opposed to Christianity. The Bible is very MGTOW. The problem is, modern Christianity is in bed with feminism

Agreed, if Jesus Christ was not going his own way then I do not know who is.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

There is no conflict between MGTOW and the teachings of Jesus/God….as distinct from the teachings of the church. The church is a human institution so at some level it must be flawed; since the people who comprise it are flawed.

But the Bible is clear. God has a plan for everyone’s life and men/women are to have an ordered existence consistent with God’s will/laws. Unfortunately women have rejected this order and their role as defined by God. That is on them—not us. We can continue to worship God and live our lives in such a way as to give glory to his creation. Women have rejected God and his plan for them. That is between God and them. We are out of it.

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