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Unless I’m wrong this particular letter has made its way here before.
Well, if not, HERE WE GO!!Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
The reason I bring it up now is because I had a very nice conversation with some charming lady from Australia. Here it is.
Warning: Wall of text inbound.
Except woman get attacked and killed for turning down men all the time. I’ve had guys turn into crazy monsters after I’d turned them down, including having guys try to run me over with their trucks, getting slapped, chased, stalled, etc.Just because some men can handle rejection doesn’t mean all men can. I now will lie to get out of men hitting on me if it means I can safely get away from them without escalating the situation by flat our rejecting them. Most women learn that pretty early on.
……………..So you would willingly risk your life in a place where such things as this happen? For what reason?If I knew that I’d risk being stalked, assaulted, or killed just because some chick was having a bad day, I wouldn’t go to that place. As many a guy has come to realize,”It ain’t worth it.” If the risks outweigh the rewards, don’t go. I’m just sayin.
I was stalked by a 23 year old man when I was riding the bus back to my house from highschool. Do I stop going to highschool? Should my parents have quit their jobs to escort me everywhere?I got kicked by another man who I ignored while walking down the street with a friend. Should I stop walking the 5 minutes from my bus stop to home? I mean, I was doing a working holiday and not exactly swimming in money while backpacking around Australia. Should I have just stayed at home?
One time a guy took a liking to me while I was working in a mall. He wouldn’t leave me alone for hours despite trying to explain to him I had a bf and I wasn’t interested. I called my bf in tears to come escort me home and only then did he leave me alone.
Like, where do you think these guys are harrassing women? by luring them into dark alleys with candy? Seriously?
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First off, that’s called random assaults. Doesn’t sound like they would’ve cared if you liked them or not. I’m sure they have cops for that. Also, These sound like scenarios that did happen, but they aren’t daily occurrences. Your earlier post sounds like if you reject some guy you run a 50/50 chance of getting beat up. If that is true, then get away from that area!! If you’re getting attacked everytime you walk outside, that is a serious problem and whoever is in charge of public safety needs to know about it.Where do I think these guys are harassing women? LOL. These days, Everything is harassment! Saying “hello” to a cashier will probably come with a mandatory sentence if she feels threatened. If I found that out, I’d stop going to that store.
………………And if you’re a grown woman who gets lured into dark alleys by the promise of candy, I’m afraid I have some bad news for you.
How you interpret my post isn’t up to me so I don’t care how you perceive me to be.That being said, I’ve dated a lot of men, some who asked me out and some who I asked out, husband included. Not “everything” is harrassment. No one is saying that. We just know if a girl says “no thank you”, you don’t need to write an article about how you deserve to date us.
My interpretation? It looks pretty clear to me. You said that women get attacked for turning down men all the time, but you’ve also said that you’ve dated a lot of men, including one that you have now married. I’m going to ask you once more: Do you think, or did you think the risk of being attacked worth the reward, in this case finding a man that you eventually married?Now personally, I’ve been out there a lot of times. I’ve asked many a woman to dates, just to hang out, etc. And I’ve been turned down nearly all of those times. While it did hurt on the inside, I have never once sought to hurt anyone of those women in return. In my own observations, the guy who does fly off the handle is the rare one, not the norm. I’m sure that all of us guys know that losing our cool on some girl in the bar isn’t going to increase our chances of getting anything other than arrested. I don’t know where you hang out at, but if these guys are unable to control themselves any better than that………..
1: call the cops.
2: If that area is a hangout for these kinds of people, STOP GOING TO
THAT AREA!!You’re a grown woman. Take some sort of responsibility for yourself.
lol, if a dog bites you, do you keep petting it? What if multiple dogs bite you over 10 years? Anytime you try and tell someone, they say it’s your fault for petting dogs. But then everyone gets mad at you for not petting a stranger’s dog. Sure, puppies are harmless and their bites are small so we can visualise the potential risk of petting him. Let’s say you have a family friend’s dog you’ve known and spent some time with prior to the biting incidents. You’re less likely to be afraid or hesitant. Same with a dog who is friendly to other strangers and if your friends can give positive feedback.
So now you’re somewhat comfortable in superviser settings with dogs and know how to act around dogs. All of a sudden, a strange dog (ie, a strange man, in case you didn’t get the analogy) approaches you. You don’t know this dog and you have no friends around or maybe they’ve pooped into a shop and left you alone for a moment, whatever. This dog is following you and won’t go away despite being neither friendly not aggressive, just persistent and imvestigating. You don’t know their intentions, whether it will be a friendly encounter, whether running will make you prey, will taking a ball throw get the dog fooled enough for you to leave? I mean, you gave strange dogs the benefit of the doubt last time and you ended up with stitches and the dog ran off. No repercussions for the dog but only for you.
What do you do?
HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You went the dog route? Okay. Let’s go.
If a dog bites you and you keep petting it, you’re encouraging that behavior, Simple as that. If you’re letting these dogs continue to bite you, you’re the problem. First you tell them to stop. Then you MAKE them stop.
“Everyone is mad at you for not petting a stranger’s dog”? LMFAO!! SCREW THEM!!! Why the hell would you keep associating with these assholes who obviously don’t care about you or your pain?
“So now you’re somewhat comfortable in supervisor settings with dogs and know how to act around dogs.”
Jeez. you just spelled out the basics of the PUA or Pick Up Artist’s “Game”. You learn how to act around these,”Dogs” so that you can get what you want from them……………………………
…………….OR YOU CAN DO LIKE THE GUY IN THE OP AND SAY NO!! NOBODY IS MAKING YOU GO AND DEAL WITH THESE CREATURES OTHER THAN YOU!!! YOU DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH THESE PEOPLE OR ANYONE ELSE!!!
If some guy keeps following you around, there are laws against that kind of thing. Call a cop or something.
As far as “giving strange dogs the benefit of the doubt”, Welcome to the dating scene. You are intentionally meeting with strangers in a public setting. If you don’t want to talk to people, then DON’T. There are most likely plenty more people around so it isn’t that big of a deal.
“No repercussions for the dog but only for you”. Welcome to what every guy has to deal with now a days thanks to everything being labeled sexual harassment. Here in America, the whole #MeToo thing has gone rampant where even a bad date in the case of one Aziz Ansari is enough to be accused of rape. Incidents from as far back as 30 years ago or even longer are now being brought up and used to destroy men’s careers if not their entire lives. What happens if and when these accusers are proven to be false? Nothing
Over here, an ever growing number of men have realized that we are alone. The courts don’t care, the media doesn’t care, and society doesn’t care. So, what did we do? We stopped caring.
We don’t care what you want.
You want a “Good man”? We don’t care.
“You think I’d be a good father?” We don’t care.
“You want to settle down?” We don’t care.
“You’re not like the other girls?” We don’t care.And if you think that this is only happening on the dating scene……………
I’M AFRAID I’VE GOT SOME BAD NEWS!
Men around the planet are starting to say,”No” to everything involving women. Not only men not marrying, they are not dating, not picking them up in taxis, not helping women in the workplace, hell, not even hiring women as much as before if at all, lots of guys aren’t even TALKING to or LOOKING at women if they can avoid it. Men are putting up barriers now. We have what is called the Mike Pence Rule where men won’t even meet with a female client or co-worker without a chaperone. Why? Because much like that biting dog you keep talking about, we will not trust you. No. you will not bite me, not even if I’m forced to deal with you. Women are already complaining about it, but we’re not listening. When nobody else would help, we men found our OWN solution. You don’t like our solution? I’ll tell you one last time: We don’t care.
Oh, you’re one of those “nice guys”.
Yeah, please remain single. I’m suresingle females all over the world are all breathing a sigh of relief you’re no longer in the dating pool.
Also, my husband is a genuinely nice guy and he’s never had to tell anyone that. Weird how that works…almost like you can’t demand women perceive you as a nice guy when you’re really just a jaded asshole.
Cheers! 😘
lol. And now you try to shame me with some label. I’m just surprised you didn’t use the time honored classic of,”You’re just a virgin who can’t get laid.” I must at least give you credit for that.
Your husband? He might be a “nice guy” now, but odds say that in the next 5 to 7 years, he’ll be divorced. The court system being what it is he’ll get milked like a dairy cow and God help him if there are kids involved. By the time the courts are through with him, he’ll be scum of the earth who deserves all the bad things that are happening to him. What happens after that? Well, it won’t be so nice. Alimony, child support, living out of cheap apartments if he’s lucky, or on the street if he isn’t. Of course he can always stay in a nice comfortable jail cell for missing alimony payments. Maybe he can simply put an end to it all as so many men have done. The possibilities are endless for a “Nice Guy”.
If nothing else, your advice to stay single is advice I intend to take. It’s pretty obvious that I’m not the kind of guy that women want. Besides, It doesn’t matter how “Nice” a guy is if nobody is looking for that.
“Jaded asshole”? That just sounds wrong. I hope there is an effective medical procedure for that. Me? I’m just gonna avoid the situation altogether.
Just adding some final nails to your “nice guy” coffin? lmao
That’s…………………A pretty good one. As this article and the one before it have pretty much spelled out, The “Nice guy” is indeed dead. Cause of death: nobody wanted him. Hey folks. I think she’s finally getting it!! If I’ve helped in at least some way then I’m glad I stopped by this post. It should be closing in on Friday over there so you have a good weekend. Me? I’ve had it good for a while now so the day of the week doesn’t matter. Still, I might go out and celebrate in your honor. “To Zombombaby. One more who has seen the light!!” If any of your friends are having trouble understanding why guys are saying no these days, just direct them over here. I’ll be happy to get them sorted out as well.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/17018380/gender-wage-gap-childcare-penalty
Man these people are stupid. Here are some actual quotes from the story. Let’s see if we can make some sense of this:
I asked Kleven why the child care penalty is so persistent and stubborn as other causes seem to fade away.
“That’s the holy grail question,” he says. “We don’t answer it, but it’s one of the things that I continue to work on.”
Much of Kleven’s paper is designed to untangle what exactly happens after women have children that leads to this wage gap. He finds that women start to gravitate toward different jobs after the birth of a child, ones with fewer hours and lower wages. Ten years after childbirth, women have a 10 percentage point higher probability of public sector employment than men. These are jobs that typically offer “flexible working hours, leave days when having sick children, and a favorable view on long parental leaves.”
Denmark’s generous leave policy might exacerbate the gender wage gap by pulling women out of the workforce for longer periods of time.
In theory, Danish policy does allow parents to split up their leave. But in practice, Danish women take off the vast majority of time after the birth of a child. Recent data shows that Danish men account for just 10 percent of parental leave taken in the country.
So, the Holy Grail question is why is there a pay gap? Then he goes on to explain that after women have children they look for easier jobs and take 90% of the split leave available while the husbank continues to work. Whatever could the answer be???? Oh yeah, one final quote:
The other is a biological explanation: that women may have a stronger preference for spending more time in activities related to child care.
Of course she does, because then she’s the boss. Because it’s easier to not work than work. Because being a stay-at-home mother is the toughest job in the world (yes that is sarcasm). Because vagina. Because if dad gets to stay at home he will figure out what an easy f~~~ing life she has.
This guy is an idiot. He asks the burning question and then provides every answer. It’s simple, there’s a pay gap because women are lazy and will take the easier job if given the chance. However, they are martyrs so they will bitch and moan and whine and complain about having the easier job. And then they will bitch and moan and whine and complain that they aren’t being paid the same.
Any questions?
Order the good wine
Topic: A little update
My fellow MGTOWs, I’m glad that I finally got an opportunity to send a note about my changing move. Unfortunately, this one would be not so descriptive in order not to dox myself.
But maybe for some of you, guys it would be interesting and delightful to know, that other MGTOWs around the world while going their own special ways are already achieving good results.
Not a long time ago I found a new job in my area of science and engineering and relocated into another part of Russia.
So far my plan is going ok, first results have been gained, salary is bearable and somewhat decent for this place (and Russia in general). The place is better than previous ones (and even than my native town), but it has its positive and negative sides too. I hope this work would be sound experience for me and I would gain good, high quality results here going my own special way.
It was awesome to see, that Russky2 is on the way to get his plan done too!)
Thank you all once again for your support, it helped me a lot)
Cheers, RD.

