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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/us/west-virginia-teacher-work-stoppage/index.html
Gone are the days of factory worker cookie cutter mass produced learning. People are no longer working in factories yet, our public schooling still consists of teaching kids in the same old manner.
People learn through osmosis, not sitting in front of a teacher dictating bulls~~~ from a textbook that has nothing to do with reality. Public schools have figured out how to kill any and all creativity that may still exist in young children. Want to know how to make a kid learn to hate reading books….enroll him into the public education system over the course of 12 years. These kids are taught useless information. They aren’t taught how to understand investing or how to even do their taxes.
And then you have these teachers going on strike for “better pay.” Pay for what? If I were the governor of West Virginia I’d say good riddens “the state doesn’t need you.” School has always been a glorified day care system. It’s a failed system and trying to increase teacher wages is the least of public schooling’s worries. It’s simply a broken system. It’s been broken for over 80 years and counting.
Totally off topic…but W. Virginia’s Governor’s name is Jim Justice? Hahahahaha. F~~~ that’s an awesome name. I’m guessing he got elected on his name alone. It reminds me of when Homer Simpson changed his name to Max Power lol
Back on topic…public education should be shut down. The whole point of it is to indoctrinate and condition kids to follow the rules of some asshole with a title, obey the sound of a ringing bell, and perform the pointless tasks assigned to them without question…great training for a soul-crushing life in a cubicle.
Pink slip all of these parasites.
The answer, is no.
I’ve learned more on my own, than I ever did in the public education system (and I wasn’t a slacker in school). I learn by reading (or now, by watching videos)… and then DOING — or even by just digging into a problem and figuring it out as I go. Without that hands-on component, at least for me, the “book learnin'” goes in one ear and shortly thereafter, out the other.
Public education is free and that is hard to turn down if you are on a low income and could not afford private education for your children. Its hard to be too hard on a free thing.
BUT public education is a great way to indoctrinate generations of people into society’s favourite bulls~~~ -equality and feminism are the big ones these days. This is far from helpful as it does not prepare children for the reality of life. Also public education has a great way of preparing today’s children for the last generation’s challenges.
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Public education is free and that is hard to turn down if you are on a low income and could not afford private education for your children. Its hard to be too hard on a free thing.
BUT public education is a great way to indoctrinate generations of people into society’s favourite bulls~~~ -equality and feminism are the big ones these days. This is far from helpful as it does not prepare children for the reality of life. Also public education has a great way of preparing today’s children for the last generation’s challenges.
Yes. I have kids in elementary school and almost every week there is some sjw day or activity for the kids. Wear an orange shirt for the oppressed, etc. The amount of left politics in the schools here is sickening.
There is no such thing as a “free” education. There is a reason governments invest so heavily in education, and it has nothing to do with producing a “skilled” workforce. They are indoctrination centers, and their real purpose is to produce correct-thinking, docile citizens.
The answer, is no.
Anonymous42I accelerated in private summer school after I fell behind in public school. 10 to 1 knowledge and learning increase, went back to public feminazi infested school and was subject to the war on men and boys by the flaming feminists of that time that insisted we call them Mizzzzzzz, not Mrs, not Miss, Not Misses, but Mizzzzzzzzzzzzz! By 16 I was destroyed and left public school. Within 2 years I went to a vocational school and passed GED within 6 months, then went on to do and learn whatever I needed to learn simply by reading. I’m still studying and learning to this day!
Public Education is DINOSAUR S~~~! It needs to be EXTINCT!
Anonymous54Where do you think I learned my spelling!!
But to be fair.
My English teacher was so patient and kind to me.
Everyone else was SCREAMING at me.If it wasnt for her, I wouldnt be able to write at all.
This was before feminism took over.
I got thrown out of school at 14.
Worked in a Factory.
I never understood why they can’t video the best teachers at the top schools (play it at all other schools on a big 4k TV) that get great results and fire the rest.
Jobs for the girls is my guess. Tax payer would save a fortune if they did that. Women would have to get a real job though so not likely to happen any time soon.
May you walk in peace and happiness, May you and all mgtow, near and far walk in peace and happiness.
Public education is yet another TOOL of the Matrix.
It’s NOT going ANYWHERE, but it will continue to be an ever growing Federal and State Bureaucracy that shall consume ever Greater amounts of taxes with each passing year.
When was the last time that you ever HEARD a politician recommend cutting Federal Funds to public education, and actually be successful at doing it ????
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Anonymous54Mg. Congratulations on your GED!
Anonymous43If ya thought public education was a s~~~show from the outside looking in, try being a white conservative MGTOW man in education in a predominately south of the border demographic school district.
My 5th grade class had children who have never attended school before, my class reading average was 2nd grade reading level. I had 6 kids who were reading at 8th and higher level, just to drive up the average. Behavior issues constantly, my kids could not even line up to go get their government guaranteed free lunch. I could not teach spelling or reading out loud, unfair for those not good at English. I could not teach rote math fact families, unfair to those who have not learned math because they have never been in school before. Homework was never sent home, no one at home could read English well enough to help the kids. Kids didn’t read at home, no one to practice with.
I was accused of being racist for using white copy paper to print work on. I was accused of being racist on a weekly basis. Proof? no we don’t have any other proof other than your blue eyes, white man teacher.
Don’t get me started on the Kagan method of instruction. This is paring up the smart students with the stupid, and pairing two average students to do activities together. The result was the smart kids resent being put next to thugs and mucus munchers, the average kids don’t really don’t improve.
We didn’t teach from books, but rather photo copies from workbooks bought at bookstores or worksheets and readings printed off the internet. Of course the kids couldn’t keep track of these worksheets and stories. For a class of 25, I routinely printed 40 of everything. If students failed tests, I would go over the whole thing in class, then give them the test to take home to redo with the correct answers. Most failed even that.
Two hours of each day, the children were divided up by ability, sent to different rooms, and played math and reading games. The class of children would work at one of 6 stations, and rotate every 20 minutes. An example of a math game would be roll 2 10 sided dice and add the numbers together. An example of a reading game: read a story and answer 5 questions. I only knew 4 kids…the ones from my class. The kids would have to self regulate their activities. Of course everyone was off task. I had to rate their efforts and give a grade for kids I really didn’t know.
Every child in my class has a single mother or remarried parent. The result is in their world, men are unnecessary and can be ignored. Because I left early, that was reinforced.
Working with women was a disaster. I had to explain some concepts to women with more than 5 or 10 years of experience. I watched these teachers teach factually incorrect material. The women would brag over lunch about making children run laps at recess or making them cry in class. I had to teach sexual acceptance of the 93 genders to 5th grade kids. I had to teach global warming will kill us all eventually.
I was honestly surprised that all my students showed improvement after the testing. I lived in fear of being fired from my job based on children who did not want to be in school.
I had things stolen from me, books bought with my own money ruined, weekly meetings with parents and principal and death threats. Kids always needed pencils…why? they picked the erasers apart and threw the pieces at each other, the pencils were broken or sharpened unnecessarily. Dry erase markers, staples, paperclips and postit note pads disappeared. Someone took three wireless mouses, but left the little receiver unit in my computer. lol Idiots. I left that school the day after I found bullet casings and a dead bird on my doorstep. At least three parents of kids in my class belonged to MS-13.
F~~~ it all, I’m out. Maybe things are better on this side of Kansas…I don’t know. Maybe I’ll try again this fall, but I am going to a technology school to pick up some certificates to learn a new skill set.
Anonymous42I got thrown out of school at 14.
Worked in a Factory.
I knew a guy that went to work in the North Brookfield asbestos plant, he lied at the time and said he was 18 when in fact he was 16, because of that he was denied all asbestos victim entitlements and awards for his suffering, he had asbestosis 25 years ago and the last I heard he was deceased. All he got was a big f~~~ around by the lawyers that lined their own pockets as usual!
Mg. Congratulations on your GED!
No big deal, I passed and never bothered to pick up the written diploma, just passing alone is what satisfied me! Also passed the machinist diploma and never bothered to get that printed diploma, I never was a friend of or worshiper of paper work! When I want to learn something new I buy books and search the internet! Some writers and video makers are better educators than others. Sometimes it takes several sources on the same subject matter before you understand and learn something…
Public education is yet another TOOL of the Matrix.
Exactly!
The General education board (GEB), which controls our education system, was founded/funded by John D. Rockefeller in the early 1900s.
He was quoted as saying “I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers”
That sums of the indoctrination… I mean education system right there
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I don’t disagree with the complaints, however I don’t know what the solution is. Assuming that everyone agrees that an education is important how do we transition from a public education system to something that is better?
I think you have to transition from a public system to a private system. You can’t just do that overnight. Allowing for school choice is a good way to start. You also have to dismantle all federal funding for schools and if possible, bar states from setting any education stations…or at least dropping them to utter basics. Allow competition to approve the quality of education.
Even then though, I think it could decades to change both the public school culture and get real improvement. And there will always be people who want to return to the comfort of government control.
And in full disclosure, I mostly take my children’s education for granted. I don’t like the idea of suddenly having to decide which of a dozen different schools with different prices is right for my kids. It’s also not hard to imagine that there is a significant difference in the level of education between the poor and wealthy, not just in what they can afford but in the effort parents put in to their education.
Ok. Then do it.
I’ve learned more on my own, than I ever did in the public education system (and I wasn’t a slacker in school). I learn by reading (or now, by watching videos)… and then DOING — or even by just digging into a problem and figuring it out as I go. Without that hands-on component, at least for me, the “book learnin’” goes in one ear and shortly thereafter, out the other.
Yep, and the sad thing is that there’s plenty of data showing this. Seth Godin discusses this ad nauseam….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXpbONjV1Jc
Public education is free and that is hard to turn down if you are on a low income and could not afford private education for your children. Its hard to be too hard on a free thing.
I’ve always thought that something like the US Constitution’s establishment clause would be the way to go.
Don’t let them enforce any system of presumptions. They could still teach history as long as everything was traceable (“Source A claims such-and-such, and here is everything we know about the document’s chain of custody and physical condition”), and they could teach abstract methods in a neutral way (“If you encounter this hypothetical situation, you can use method A to move variables B, C and D in the respective directions X, Y and Z”).
What they COULDN’T do is make appeals to authority based on a source, tell you whether it was good or bad to change a situation, or assert that a textbook example was realistic without proving it.
I attended and graduated without being indoctrinated.
My father insured I new “HOW” not “WHAT” to think,
he was the smartest man I ever knew.
He gets the credit not the public school system.And nothing is free so all you guys saying the school
or the lunches kids eat are free should stop lying.Property taxes are collected for the local public schools across this nation. Here in Texas the lottery must give a % to schools.
I found that it is the teachers not the schools that are at fault.
Parents should be more involved in checking that curriculum is not becoming too politically progressive.Schools do attempt to create good citizens.
The term citizen describes a voluntary servant.
That is better than being a slave for at least
they can volunteer to participate by voting.Our republic has been transformed into an “Ineptocracy”
Ineptocracy The system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers..
Not even Viagra could cure this Electile dysfunction..
Love and respect to all without prejudice.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
I got thrown out of school at 14.
Worked in a Factory.
I knew a guy that went to work in the North Brookfield asbestos plant, he lied at the time and said he was 18 when in fact he was 16, because of that he was denied all asbestos victim entitlements and awards for his suffering, he had asbestosis 25 years ago and the last I heard he was deceased. All he got was a big f~~~ around by the lawyers that lined their own pockets as usual!
Mg. Congratulations on your GED!
No big deal, I passed and never bothered to pick up the written diploma, just passing alone is what satisfied me! Also passed the machinist diploma and never bothered to get that printed diploma, I never was a friend of or worshiper of paper work! When I want to learn something new I buy books and search the internet! Some writers and video makers are better educators than others. Sometimes it takes several sources on the same subject matter before you understand and learn something…
Holy f~~~, that was brutal. There you go. Even if you put yourself in the system to try and work with it, it just swallows you up as more collateral damage. The system is too big to save. But no one has the b~~~~ enough to admit that it needs to be destroyed for good. Charter schools are a nice option but in the end we’re better off just going back to the days where a child’s education depended on what their parents did.
Yesterday I walked from the city back to queens because it was such a nice day. As I passed a bodega I saw two crack head looking black chicks with their kids en tow. It was clear that these kids were products of government housing and that these women had been on welfare since they were born. Parasites sucking off the government tit, trying to survive the best they could off our dime. These same bitches complain about the world not doing enough to help them and their drug dealer chad/tyrone inseminated kids.
And then these same kids get thrown into the failing school system that makes it hell for teachers to be able to teach anything to the other 30 kids in the classroom. And it’s an endless cycle. I say f~~~ those kids. Let them learn on their own instead of making it a burden on kids who actually want to learn. Even kids who are smart enough to read on their own with out guidance can learn more outside of a public school (prison) environment.
I’m not surprised these schools are the setting for school shootings. Here’s a way to stop all this nonsense. No more schools with s~~~ty teaching. Problem solved.
Anonymous54I think hetting your GED is impressive.
There is Humility involved.
People dont realise this,Dale Earnheart Sr. Only went to the 8th grade.
Even though he was winning Championships and makeing Millions, he quietly got his GED.
A Man I admire more than I can say.Ive thought about it myself,
But do think my spelling would pass?
HahahMy degree is from the School of Hard Knocks.
I am very Proud of it!
Every child in my class has a single mother or remarried parent. The result is in their world, men are unnecessary and can be ignored. Because I left early, that was reinforced.
Been on the inside too may7. Am out as well. Considering other options. I agree with EVERYTHING you wrote. End of story. Best of luck.
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