My rant on the Russians

[joetechParticipant]

Ever since Trump was elected we’ve been hearing about Russian collusion. Now, 13 Russians have been indicted for a number of infractions including money laundering and wire fraud. But the crux of the Russian interference argument is that these 13 Russians got on social media and said bad things about Clinton. THAT’S the extent of their interference. If they had done something to affect the vote tally that would be different, but hell, I could get 13 people to open fakebook accounts and say bad things, too. And the idea that these Russians interfered with our process by sewing discord among Americans to get them to argue with each other…? How hard is it to get Americans to argue with each other? I think this is much adoo over nothing and a complete waste of time. If you think I’m an asshole for thinking this fine, but tell me why.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 42]

Collusion?

National security?

Conspiracy?

Uranium one.

Long trail of dead bodies.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

But Russians have dash cams… lots of ’em… millions of videos like this on the YouTubes…

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

It seems almost no one has realized the real fubar situation of Mueller’s team indicting these 13 Russians. Their alleged crime amounts to publicly commenting on the a U.S. election.

If this becomes a legal precedent, then an foreign person, legal or illegal, can be arrested and charged with publicly commenting or other actions towards U.S. elections.

Taken to the logical conclusion, this would destroy the democrat party and the globalist influence in the U.S.

And this would be all thanks to Mueller’s and his team, whom seem to originally set out to depose a legal sitting president and in a move on their part to cover their asses they have politically harm those supporting their actions.

[Anonymous 7]

Meh, it was a political witch hunt by the butt-hurt.
I’m not really a repuke but I’m most certainly not a demon-rat

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

I feel the same way Joe. They have to do SOMETHING otherwise the whole witch hunt will look useless.

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[UntamedParticipant]

joetech wrote:

I think this is much adoo over nothing and a complete waste of time.

I agree. Then again, waste of time is what government does best.
That Russian Collusion business is a nothing burger and they know it, that’s why they just had to indict some Russians, any Russians, for whatever they may have done like putting pics on Facebook or standing in the middle of Grand Central Station wearing a tutu… anything would do to fool the gullible average American.

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Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
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[Joey AlfioParticipant]

We just dropped bombs on Russians in Syria for trying to secure an oilfield from ISIS hands in Deir al Zor and there’s a talk of collusion still?

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[joetechParticipant]

Untamed wrote:

anything would do to fool the gullible average American.

Boy, you’ve got that right! My countrymen just make me hang my head and shake it in disgust sometimes.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Untamed wrote:

joetech wrote:

I think this is much adoo over nothing and a complete waste of time.

I agree. Then again, waste of time is what government does best.
That Russian Collusion business is a nothing burger and they know it, that’s why they just had to indict some Russians, any Russians, for whatever they may have done like putting pics on Facebook or standing in the middle of Grand Central Station wearing a tutu… anything would do to fool the gullible average American.

But, can they get a conviction? Any lawyer would have a first amendment freedom of speech field day on these charges.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

An interesting question to pose, is WHY Vladimir Putin HATES Hillary Clinton SO MUCH.

The reason goes to 2011, when there were widespread demonstrations against Putin in Russia. Hillary and the State Department supported his overthrow, and he blamed much of the unrest, on her provocations, when she was Secretary of State. These demonstrations, were a VERY serious and real threat to his being Russian Emperor/Czar for Life.

Keep in mind, Putin was ALSO engaged in inept attempts to get Bernie nominated for the Presidential Election. His position was ‘Anybody but Hillary’. Indeed, he was AGAINST Hillary, even BEFORE Trump was nominated. It’s important to understand this ‘backstory’ in any discussion of this topic. He HATES Hillary. He doesn’t love Trump (or Bernie). Indeed, Trump has hardly rolled over and been his lapdog; we still have troops in Syria.

I am not convinced Putin was responsible for the e-mail hacks, but I LOVE leaks. I hope there are MORE of them. Why? It decreases confidence in government, which I believe will potentially REDUCE the public’s zest for ever-larger government intrusion into the economy and our personal lives. I don’t care who hacked the DNC. I approve! And hope there are RNC leaks too!

Strictly speaking, the Russians weren’t registered as ‘foreign lobbyists’. So what. First off, the registry is pointless, but if we are going to have a registry, let’s just call them ‘Bribe Makers’ or ‘King Makers’ or ‘Slush Money Dispensers’. We have 10,000 times more domestic ones than foreign ones in Washington. These are the ‘real constituents’ of our ‘representatives’.

I very much dislike Hillary’s politics and corrupt dealings. But she actually DID take a stand for democracy, against Putin in 2011. Hillary is a leftist and a Statist, but she does believe in multiparty democracy, at least in Russia. Not so much for deploreables in flyover States here.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

joetech wrote:

And the idea that these Russians interfered with our process by sewing discord among Americans to get them to argue with each other…? How hard is it to get Americans to argue with each other?

OK from what I can make out, in America you have to pick one side to support and then you hate the other side. You cant be working both sides of the street.

That seems to be what I can pick up, from the news. That at first, the crafty Boris and Natasha got on social media and bashed the hell out of the Clinton. Then after the election they paid for anti Trump rallies. Americans do not like this one bit. Here there are two teams and you must choose one side.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Now as a split personality wacko my 50 cents.

Does anyone besides me want a nuclear war?

Let me get this straight, two of the largest land mass, economic powers, higher populated, militar power and nuclear powers of the world, who have been enemy for at least 100 years, are “colluding “ and you think that’s bad?

Can you imagine a “European union” style agreement between Russia and USA? It is like Godzilla and King Kong decided they love each other…

Can anyone get my point?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[UntamedParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

Can anyone get my point?

I think so.
If King Kong and Godzilla made love in the middle of a city there’d be a lot of damage.

Carnage wrote:

Does anyone besides me want a nuclear war?

No. I may be nuts but I think you’re nuttier.
Don’t sweat it, Carnage, that’s the way we like you. 😊

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 14]

The U.S. has become nothing more than a tool of special interests. If they wanted their Sovereignty they should be focusing on Israeli/Jewish influence, not Russian, and it is in fact Israeli/Jewish influence that is the reason for this witch hunt as the Russians back those in the Mid East that Israel wants destroyed, that is what this all amounts to. Syria was where the Russians finally threw a wrench into the Israeli war plan of going after all of Iran’s allies, then ultimately Iran, all paid for and done by the Goyim in the U.S.. I think the U.S. would be way better off with the Russians as allies instead of the Israelis. Being allies with Israel is like trying to swim with a 25lb weight tied around your neck.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

Romulus wrote:

OK from what I can make out, in America you have to pick one side to support and then you hate the other side. You cant be working both sides of the street.

This is true in all facets of American life. We, collectively, like to pick a “team” and then hate the other team and everything it stands for. Independent thought is despised.

It’s nonsense.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Carnage wrote:

Now as a split personality wacko my 50 cents.

Does anyone besides me want a nuclear war?

Let me get this straight, two of the largest land mass, economic powers, higher populated, militar power and nuclear powers of the world, who have been enemy for at least 100 years, are “colluding “ and you think that’s bad?

Can you imagine a “European union” style agreement between Russia and USA? It is like Godzilla and King Kong decided they love each other…

Can anyone get my point?

Things need to get resolved BEFORE you have a case of asking, “Do you want a nuclear war?” A country, like North Korea could say they will nuke cities unless they get what they want. Nuclear weapons are to deter acts of aggression, not used offensively. The stakes are to high.

Russia just has nukes, a bunch of oil, and a bunch of intellect. Economically, they aren’t all that, and their military is mainly nukes.

This isn’t two nations colluding here, it is a case of Russia favoring one candidate over another one, and doing what it can to get that candidate elected. That is considered a no-no. The issue now is if Trump campaign coordinated with them. This is not a good thing to have happen.

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