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    No as it is paid for via Taxation

    So its not free…its just “free” for you while riding the back of someone else.

    College here was much more affordable for generations…then the government got heavily involved in student loans. The fact is universities have no incentive to try to keep costs reasonable when people are willing to go and the government will write them a blank check. Keep in mind…state universities are already government owned, so acting like its the greedy private market causing prices to sky rocket isn’t the case when we already have a massively over priced government system in place.

    Simply put I want to see the cost of college come back down to where it should be if we didn’t have price increases beyond the cost of inflation for 30+ years now, I’m not interested in just shuffling around who pays a bloated price.

    Interesting though, that we have comments in this thread from someone in the UK and articles linked stating what a failure “free” college in the UK turned out to be and you have no reply there.

    Someone else could use the same argument against you especially if you went to Public school growing up as someone else paid for your Education.

    What is the difference between kids in a K-12 school and adults in college? Most of the kids in K-12 schools can’t even legally work and aren’t legal adults. 18+ year old adults in college are legally adults.

    K-12 education is one of the government functions I don’t complain about…you can’t expect a 4 year old who can’t even legally work to start funding his own education, but the same can’t be said for someone who is legally an adult.

    Other People pay for the roads you drive on, if you are older or Social Security is not getting gutted then i will be paying for your Social Security etc.

    You act like I’m not contributing to these things. I pay taxes that support roads, and while 30 years from now someone might be paying for my social security, I’ve been paying for other people my whole life. Meanwhile we just start handing out “free” college, its just a total f~~~ job for me. I had to pay for mine, then I get taxed more to pay for yours. Yeah…no thanks.

    Plus how about people who opt to not go to college? I know lots of people with CDLs and who picked up trades who make a damn good living who didn’t go to college…why should they pay for yours? I also know a few guys that served in the military as a means to get their college paid for…why should they pay for yours?

    Or how do you justify differences in costs? Do you think a guy who does 2 years at community college and commutes for 2 years and ends up making 100k a year when he graduates wants to pick up a bigger share of the cost through taxation than someone who lives on campus somewhere for 4 years and makes 40k after graduation?

    I want the freedom to make my own choices and pay my own way, not lumped in with lazy idiots who can’t pull their head out of their ass.

    But also i can mention other examples like for example are you for Trumps wall? if so then i don’t want to pay for that or are you for the excess Military expense? if so again then i don’t want to pay for that.

    Border security and a military are power expressly granted to the federal government in the constitution. Free college for all, not so much.

    Yes straight up open borders are bad however the fact is there is no evidence stating it just Whites which can have a Social Democracy. If you state it then you have to explain how it would need to be White Europeans to do so.

    Perhaps you should actually read what I wrote previously in its entirety. It worked because it was on a much smaller scale than the United States in countries that are very wealthy per capita with very little immigration, and until recently most of the immigration they did have was from neighboring, and very similar nations.

    Check back in 20 years, these countries will be s~~~ holes as they’ve opened up to immigration from poorer areas and to cultures who aren’t interested in assimilating. By “these” countries, I mean Scandenavian nations liberals love to point at as a success of socialism, and they’re already starting to cut back on social programs as they are opening to more immigration.

    #887713
    IMickey503
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    There is at present an undeclared and non-violent civil war being waged in this country. The underlying factor of any civil war is an elite ruling class desperate to maintain power at odds with a majority of a population seeking change. Also prevalent in most civil upheavals is the unleashing, by those determined to retain power, of the radicalized and ultimately uncontrollable dogs of war who more often than not devour their sponsors. Both elements are currently in play.

    While the ruling class publicly obsesses over Donald Trump and denigrates the vast majority of the population, they have planted the seeds, by their actions, for a takeover of the country by a radical element that will turn on them as they are presently doing within the Democratic Party.

    The American people must understand that the current ruling class will not willingly exit the stage or take on their mercenary army. Donald Trump, while perhaps accomplishing a significant degree of change, cannot induce their demise. This threat can only be marginalized through the determined utilization of political process which will encompass a number of political cycles and the long-term willingness to not be intimidated or cowed into submission. The future of the nation as founded is at stake.

    Now I get this, but here’s the problem in all this.

    YOU and I as MGTOW MEN that go our own way only seek to profit from this. All of their crap depends on one thing. THAT MEN CARE.

    That is why it has never worked in places like Africa. They are to busy giving a s~~~ about the bottom line and that is themselves.

    So, here is the rub. It does not matter what WE do to change whatever is there. It will ALWAYS SWING BACK and get f~~~ed up yet once again as long as their is no worldwide leader on the subject. That is what is the problem here.

    See, if we all started going under one religion, or happen to all become atheists, then that would be a REAL F~~~ING PROBLEM.

    For example, American Renaissance and Jarrod Taylor has been talking about preserving cultures all around the world. As long as that is kept up, this won’t be a problem for the rest of us. Sometimes, you have to understand that some people are made to be ruled. And if they don’t have that information, then they deserve what they get.

    THX for example is the Balance for example to our threat that loom from States that care about only themselves. Then we have folks like Faust and about 4 others that consists of the logic.

    THen you have folks like Joey that are like the gladiators of balance.

    THen we have you that roadmaster that also cares about the plight of the White men.

    We all have our thing that we do. So, as long as we have that small counter balance, everything will be fine.

    What you are seeing right now is that the small group of people who keep things AT that balance are doing their thing. And they are doing so since not doing so would make the entire system they have built fall apart.

    Just like sex dolls counter women and the s~~~ laws, the same is going ot be said of A.I. that is going to end up being the thing that f~~~s most people over. And not in a good way at first.

    See, the end of all this is that Western Society is a Cancer that needs to be controlled. And its not the culture, but technology that will bring all of this down.

    See, everyone that keeps talking about this is doing just that. TALKING. Talking and reporting does not do much until actions are taken. Once that happens, and with the effect that it will not require anything or loss of life to that person in charge or the people in charge? THat’s when s~~~ hits the fan.

    In fact, it was one of the goals of Monsanto to own all the agriculture so that they could control the food supply. In fact, if we DID go to a an artificial protein source, then the stable of animals would then be to expensive for the mass of people. Sooner or later, only MACHINES and THOSE THAT RUN THOSE MACHINES can make the food. When Food is all driven by factories and not by nature, all of a sudden, the balance will shift.

    This is the MAIN PROBLEM with the 3 class system. Classes 1/2/3 have this idea that they think they are in control. But that is not the case.

    It is those WELL outside of the system that know who pulls the strings. And what they are really afraid of is that if one small country or company of power goes Berserk, and starts to destroy everything, not only will those hidden folks not survive, but it will showcase just how bad the world needs to be controlled. Then we do this thing all over again. Just like we did in the past.

    This idea that we have any real control over what goes on with the masses is bulls~~~. THey are just sheep. THere really are only a handful of people who will understand what is going on and know how to stay out of it.

    As long as you understand how to stay out of it, and stay out of the way of this bulls~~~, (Like most MGTOW ARE ABLE TO) then whatever they do, has no concern to you. You simply find a way to profit from it, and enjoy the time you have here.

    Like it or not, humans are not going to reach some greater form of being per say until there is some world wide presence that controls them.

    Its just human nature for most to have a master. For those that do not see things that way, they end up on top. THe others just play into the system and end up comfortable, and others will take whatever bread is thrown their way.

    The denizens of the ruling class unleashed their out of control foot soldiers on the citizenry, employing the tactics and weapons previously aimed at their political enemies. Today vast swaths of the American populace, whether they voted for Trump or not, are indiscriminately accused of being racists, misogynists, white supremacists, ignoramuses, religious zealots, xenophobes and malcontents.

    TELL THEM TO STOP GIVING A F~~~! And that’s the biggest problem with A.I. in the future. You can make it tell the truth. And you can make it lie. And the better machine can tell what the other is doing.

    See, the problem here is that people who come into this Dangerous intelligence I.Q. zone (I TAKE CREDIT FOR JAROD TALKING ABOUT THIS BTW 🙂 is the place where they will listen to a superior mind or consciousness. That is ALL you have to do to stop that S~~~ that is going on now, and that is why there is SO MUCH FEAR from having A.I. develop since what would happen is that white folks for example would no longer have to second guess their actions. THey have to listen to the truth. They are not Racist. And no amount of Guilt is going to change the result of that program.

    That is why brother, Do not worry about the future. WORRY ABOUT MAKING IT!

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    FrankOne
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    Anonymousyam write: No as it is paid for via Taxation which is neither rich donors or all volunteers and has worked in European Countries and even Australia and Canada (where College is at least affordable for those who want to go, if not free for some if not free for all). Either one of this systems i personally am fine with but it has to be one of these 3 choices if you want America to rise above other Nations (to become better then the rest).

    I am not at all convinced of this. I have a college degree, but it is largely about credentialism. Most of the SKILLS I possess which are valuable to employers, were NOT learned in college.

    If you want the US to rise, first we should define rise. To me, rise means specifically: Higher GDP growth rates than comparable nations (OECD, etc).

    So the first step to that is to REDUCE public spending and taxation, ESPECIALLY corporate taxation since corporations, unlike government, actually DO create jobs.

    Reducing individual taxation also helps. ANYTHING that encourages entrepreneurship. Part of it is also cultural — celebrating people that started their own businesses and became rich, INSTEAD OF demonizing them.

    If 100% publicly funded higher education is central to rising above other nations, why do the countries that have adopted it, not have higher growth rates? Why don’t these countries have higher per capita GDP’s?

    Why isn’t the US economic growth rate reaching ever-higher pinnacles since we have a much higher percentage of the population with college degrees than when I was born? Does the almighty sheepskin ACTUALLY result in much higher levels of REAL economic PRODUCTIVITY?

    Might many of those degrees be useless? My degree is just a key that unlocks the door of credentialism. Skills are what matters.

    Someone else could use the same argument against you especially if you went to Public school growing up as someone else paid for your Education. Other People pay for the roads you drive on, if you are older or Social Security is not getting gutted then i will be paying for your Social Security etc. But also i can mention other examples like for example are you for Trumps wall? if so then i don’t want to pay for that or are you for the excess Military expense? if so again then i don’t want to pay for that.

    However it is not want i want to pay is what i get taxed nor is it what you want to pay you get taxed.

    I’m not sure of Beer’s political views, but mine are simple: I want POLITICS to only MINIMALLY define resource allocations, and for INDIVIDUALS to define the rest. So in practice, that means NO public schools. Parents CHOOSE their children’s school, and must PAY for it. Why? It promotes efficiency. Where I live, the public schools in the urban core consistently are graded ‘F’ for performance. And yet they are not closed! If they were private entities and failed, they would be replaced by effective competitors; their administrative staff would not constantly grow; they would not build new buildings unless actually NEEDED; I could go on and on. Similarly, I don’t want social security. Just put a checkbox on my income tax form. If I don’t check it, I don’t pay in and can’t get benefits. Let all the people who think it’s wonderful participate in this great ‘retirement system’. Just leave me out of it!

    I don’t want to be a part of FDR’s ponzi scheme. Or just make it iconic. Just put a bald eagle checkbox and I’ll check that for personal freedom. That single checkbox can make me ineligible for social security, welfare, and unemployment, but I also DON’T pay any taxes towards them! I’m fine paying for my roads. Just multiply total maintenance cost by my odometer reading / total miles driven on roads I use, and charge me. And let me vote on whether I want improvements on those roads, and then charge me proportionally for improvements. Easy with today’s technology.

    Yes straight up open borders are bad however the fact is there is no evidence stating it just Whites which can have a Social Democracy. If you state it then you have to explain how it would need to be White Europeans to do so.

    Now onto the next guy.

    If open borders are bad, why did the US economy grow so much before 1914 when we started to implement some restrictions?

    To answer the second question is more complicated. It does not ‘need’ to be whites to have a democracy. Japan is a social democracy. Many African countries are democracies. The reason many countries are ruled or have been ruled by strongmen, is because of their histories; take a specific example — a country such as Haiti. When a black general liberated it from France, it had little chance of becoming a modern democracy. Why? Because there was no tradition or understanding amongst its former slave population, of the history of Western civilization, democracies, republics, etc. It was not part of their culture. This does not mean they are genetically or intellectually inferior to white Westerners.

    You mean the Government Workers who did not get paid for over a month and struggled to get by, but your dumb ass is calling it akin to getting a Vacation? they did not consent to the Vacation or want it rather our Bitch of a President who cries about how he does not get a wall used them as Hostages to attempt to secure the funding to build it (either secure funding or these People get into dire straights). They protested stating they wanted to work/wanted to get paid for their work yet you call it akin to getting a paid for Vacation?

    You are one retard.

    You can call me a ‘retard’, but I SAVE my income. So if I lose my job, I have an emergency fund. If I am furloughed at work in my private sector job, I will *NOT* get backpay for when I was off. So yes, it’s a ‘paid vacation’ by definition!

    I think the president’s wall is a waste of money, just like 90% of other federal spending. So on that, we would agree.

    Here is what *I* would have done if I were one of those 800,000 highly-motivated workers: I would have gotten a job in the *GASP* private sector when I was let go. Uber driver. Retail. etc. NOW, I am ‘double dipping’ — I get pay immediately AND get paid for the month off when I return to work! This is the entrepreneurial paradigm.

    I don’t have much sympathy for them regardless; after all, I DID NOT CONSENT TO BE TAXED AT HIGH RATES TO PAY FOR THE ALPHABET SOUP OF FEDERAL DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE.

    So yes less youth are working in France but despite the fact both the Working and non Working are in a far better state then the Working in the United States.

    In the US, GDP per capita is $59,500. In France, it’s $38,500. So I’ll argue I’m in a better state here, than they are there, by $21,000 USD per annum.

    #887705
    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-01/ruling-class-undeclared-civil-war

    The Ruling Class & An Undeclared Civil War

    Over the past 73 years, devoid of any meaningful national misfortune, the American social order has undergone a major transformation. Historically, societies tend to stratify themselves along economic or pre-ordained class lines. The United States has long prided itself on the belief that class distinctions were no longer a part of a unique American culture. However, the current social structure has evolved into a near impregnable three-tier categorization in which the ruling class, that sits astride the social order, has revealed, thanks to the election of Donald Trump, open and unabashed disdain for the two lower classes and the unleashing of a radicalized army of malcontents.

    The citizens who provide the primary labor and resources for the economic engine of the country constitute the second tier.

    The third is comprised of those who have been betrayed by a self-serving education system and are conditioned to be totally dependent upon a government dominated by the ruling class.

    Unlike any other period in the nation’s history, one stratum of society, the American elites of the past half-century, by their control of education, entertainment, the media and politics, have totally dominated and overwhelmingly and negatively influenced the culture and national character.

    ————————————I did not title this civil war for the very obvious reason. Zero Hedge brings up an interesting point of view on the recent talk of civil war going on in the media. Two big points being the election of Trump exposed this deep state ruling class, and two that reality of the 3 class system that western society is in at the moment.
    The liberals forcing more and more people into poverty woke up nationalist movement. Not just in the states but over most of the western style governments.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #887659
    FunInTheSun
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    That’s great. The less people on welfare, the better!

    What the anti-Trump Left doesn’t understand:

    1) You give Americans more purchasing power when you lower their taxes.

    2) You need to have a population of income earners and investors earning dividends in order to tax them for government healthcare.

    3) Raising the minimum wage and creating strict environmental rules will reduce jobs…thus making it more difficult for poor people (the ones they claim to represent) to rise out of poverty.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    #887657
    FunInTheSun
    FunInTheSun
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    My favorite moment of the 2020 presidential campaign so far:

    Ha ha ha! I hope it gets more entertaining up to the primaries. For the next 11 months, you’ll see candidates doing a song & dance, appearing on late night comedy shows, kissing babies, eating crappy food at fairs, and possibly chugging beer. They’ll do anything to get your vote. But at the end of it all: I predict that President Trump will be re-elected.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    Anonymousyam
    anonymousyam
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    or you just living in a fantasy land where its free?

    No as it is paid for via Taxation which is neither rich donors or all volunteers and has worked in European Countries and even Australia and Canada (where College is at least affordable for those who want to go, if not free for some if not free for all). Either one of this systems i personally am fine with but it has to be one of these 3 choices if you want America to rise above other Nations (to become better then the rest).

    I’ve already paid for mine, no, I don’t want to pay for yours,

    Someone else could use the same argument against you especially if you went to Public school growing up as someone else paid for your Education. Other People pay for the roads you drive on, if you are older or Social Security is not getting gutted then i will be paying for your Social Security etc. But also i can mention other examples like for example are you for Trumps wall? if so then i don’t want to pay for that or are you for the excess Military expense? if so again then i don’t want to pay for that.

    However it is not want i want to pay is what i get taxed nor is it what you want to pay you get taxed.

    You realize Venezuela was a founding member of OPEC along with the Saudis, don’t you?

    Yes but that the founding of OPEC was in the year 1960 and ignore Hugo Chávez got elected 38 years later and made the US turn against Venezuela (because under the Socialist Government he Nationalized the Oil Companies). You also fail to mention now Saudi Arabia is in a trio with the US and Israel with it relying on the US for it’s bombs (the Genocide in Yemen is being carried out with American weapons) and finally the fact that Saudi Arabia paid for rooms at Trump’s Hotel and overpayed as a means of bribing him.

    they are literally all majority white Euro countries that up until recently have had very little immigration

    Yes straight up open borders are bad however the fact is there is no evidence stating it just Whites which can have a Social Democracy. If you state it then you have to explain how it would need to be White Europeans to do so.

    Now onto the next guy.

    The Federal government paying for them, will mean LESS competition and MORE top-down control and even MORE inefficiencies!

    So you are going to push for Corporations to own Schools as that is the free market solution? who makes sure and Regulates the Schools to make sure they promote accurate information and that Fossil fuel Companies cannot use Schools to brainwash the masses into denying Climate change? also what if the Schools skimp out on Education to fit the desires of those in Geographic areas like for example those in Texas not wanting Evolution or Sex Education to be talked about and the market pressures forcing non Elite schools to not adopt them?

    Would Public Schools still exist for those who could not afford to go to School? aka is Education a Human right?

    I also don’t give a rat’s ass what ‘other modern nations’ do. I prefer limited government — a concept NOT embraced by almost any nation’s government.

    It depends on the specific issue whether or not i support limited Government. For example when it comes to NSA spying and the Military having hundreds of bases and being in useless offensive wars i agree that is bulls~~~ but when it comes to the quality of food (which is Regulated by the Government) i love big Government in that example (i personally like not getting sick by eating tainted food something which would occur alot more with limited Government. I also enjoy Regulations on Housing to which where i live will not come tumbling down on me because Regulations on Housing (it has to be built to code) and i also like knowing that my drinking Water is not tainted with or has bacteria due to Regulation.

    But it depends on how limited of Government do you mean? and how you would define it?

    Somehow when the 800,000 federal workers didn’t go to work for a month, I got along just fine. But I still had to take it up the ass and pay for their paid vacation when it was over.

    You mean the Government Workers who did not get paid for over a month and struggled to get by, but your dumb ass is calling it akin to getting a Vacation? they did not consent to the Vacation or want it rather our Bitch of a President who cries about how he does not get a wall used them as Hostages to attempt to secure the funding to build it (either secure funding or these People get into dire straights). They protested stating they wanted to work/wanted to get paid for their work yet you call it akin to getting a paid for Vacation?

    You are one retard.

    is 28.3% because of socialism and restrictive labor laws, or because of US sanctions, immigration, and feminism?

    That is because that is the amount of them who are getting an Education and are in less need of Employment at that specific moment in their lives but as of right now the Unemployment numbers in the Country are around 9 percent which is a high rate however when looking at other evil Socialist Countries they have lower rates of Unemployment then France (Finland is around 7 percent, Sweden is around 6.6 percent, Denmark is almost 5 percent, Norway is 4 percent and Germany is about 3.8 percent).

    So yes less youth are working in France but despite the fact both the Working and non Working are in a far better state then the Working in the United States.

    What do you think would happen to US economic growth if the public sector were reduced from 37% of output to 30%?
    I need to know the specifics on how it would get there to decrease the percent? if you think it is evil Socialism then you are bulls~~~ting as the greatest time for growth was during a period of extremely high taxation from FDR in the 30’s till 1980 till Ronald Reagan got elected to where he cut taxes and gutted Unions with Presidents afterwards doing the same it turns out higher taxes on the wealthy equals more growth and lower taxes along with lower Regulations means a boom bust cycle which f~~~s the Economy and places us into a Recession.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #887475

    Remember Ross Perot?

    Ross Perot’s whole platform was stopping NATFA. At the time, Bill Clinton on the 1992 campaign trail lied and claimed to oppose NATFA, while Bush Sr was the arcutech of NATFA.

    Ross Perot was scared out of the race only to get a second wind and come back to throw the election to Bill Clinton, with Bill Clinton going back on his claims, and ratifying NATFA.

    Ross Perot likely is happy that President Trump is able to replace NATFA.

    #887472
    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/labor-force-participation-trump-era-high-632-percent

    The number of employed Americans, 156,694,000, was slightly below last month’s record (156,945,000), and the unemployment rate increased a tenth of a point to 4.0 percent.

    But the labor force participation rate increased a tenth of a point to 63.2 percent — the highest it’s been on President Trump’s watch.

    ———————Damned rare to see news start out on this topic, and not focused on the U-3 report. Trump 2020.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #887432

    Schultz is likely being quietly backed the corporate wing of the democrats, the rich funding the democrat party, whom are beginning to view the radical democrats as spoiled children whom are biting the hand they feeds them.

    Presently, while the corporate wing of the democrats detest President Trump because they do not control President Trump and they are pushing an ongoing political coup against President Trump, they do realize they are making money with the MAGA agenda, just in ways that do not offer long term tyrannical control of the U.S.

    The corporate democrats likely look at the situation as this, either the radical democrats bow to the corporate democrats, of the corporate democrats spoil the 2020 presidential race for President Trump. Either way the corporate democrats believe they will make money.

    Unfortunately, the corporate democrats likely waited to long to do this, as the radical democrats view anyone that does not share their views 100% of the time is an enemy.

    The pull back by the corporate democrats is adding fuel to the radical democrats political fire and creating massive pull back by the radical democrats. Now some democrats want to tax the “rich” at a tax rate of 90%.

    The situation has become a bidding war by the democrats as to whom can come up with a worse plan to seize the wealth of the “rich”, which really means seize the wealth of the working class. First it was tax rate at 70%, then a higher bid of estate tax at 77%, now a tax rate at 90%.

    There are other issues happening within the democrat party. Some are to disgusting to list. But, basically the democrats are a few steps from completely imploding.

    #887410
    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    If you want to make a Democrat’s head explode, do what I did the other day.

    Them: Schultz needs to get out of the way. He’s going to help Trump win.

    Me: I know. That’s why the Dems shouldn’t put up a candidate this go around. You’re just going to f~~~ everything up with 3 people running. Leave it to Schultz so Trump gets defeated. Otherwise it’s all your fault if Trump wins.

    Didn’t go over well, which was exactly the purpose.

    Order the good wine

    #887311
    Sky-☯️
    Sky-☯️
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    That’s going to be ‘her’ money though.

    Trump is still required to pay the bills.

    #887294

    The Globalists created and backed all the Communist Revolutions of the 20th Century. They would very much like to see us all under the same system. China is their ideal model for the world.

    True. But almost every single successful communist revolution eventually betrayed the globalists.

    While the government of China is likely concerned with the export issues that President Trump is causing, in the long run the government of China is likely the happy with the nationalist movements that President Trump’s polices are creating across the globe. These political movements are weakening the globalists control of the world.

    China would likely prefer a more self-sufficient U.S. because such a nation would lean more towards being isolationist. And China would love a collapsed European Union, instead of a unified Europe.

    At this point I would not be surprised if China has considered supporting the anti-globalist Yellow Vest movement.

    The Yellow Vest movement has grown very quickly across the world. I doubt President Trump had a hand in this because this seems not be his style. But such support and tactics would be in keeping with some of China’s tactics.

    China’s long term tactics are to slowly move outward, with each of their actions benefiting them. China’s Silk Road (economic trade routes) and String of Pearls (their military based on foreign soil) has already stretch out to much of Southwest Asia, the Middle East, and large areas of Africa.

    China’s tactics in expansion are not like western expansion tactics. Western expansion tactics are usually swift, either through military blitz or economic treaties that take all in one agreement. China’s expansion is similar to older feudal tactics of expansion to one neighboring nation, then once that nation is under control, China extends to the neighboring nations bordering the nation China just took control.

    While Russia plays Chess, the U.S. plays poker, China is playing Risk.

    #887242

    Topic: Best Mgtow job

    in forum Work
    GoodKid44
    GoodKid44
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    I wrote up a post on here (check my post history) claiming to have found the perfect mgtow job.
    .
    I waited this long to post what it was because I had to make sure that it was legit. And low and behold, it is legit.

    What’s the job? Working for the railroad.

    Why is this?

    Before hiring on with them I lived in NYC, and worked random free Lance jobs as well as part time jobs at trader joes and whole foods. No benefits and the money I made barely left me any room for saving. I was living pay check to check. Everyone I worked with was doing the same. Most people in NYC under the age of 30 are getting some sort of government aid (ebt cards etc), and they’re also in massive student loan debt.

    As I became more and more red pilled I started to realize how everything around me was feminist and SJW. NYC is a cesspool for feminity and the feminist movement. One of my roommate’s at the time was at the javits center and watched Clinton get defeated in 2016 by Trump. His girlfriend literally cried for two weeks straight. This is the kind of s~~~ I was around.

    When one of my main gigs decided to let me go for some personal conservative beliefs I held, I decided to start applying for jobs that were more “mgtow.” I applied to everything from union jobs to city jobs (which are all cucked) to rail road type jobs. Getting a union job in NYC is like winning the lottery, there’s lines around block every time they have a call… guys will sleep in their cars waiting. The railroads actually need people (at least when I was applying).

    The process is pretty thorough but not unlike applying for any city job which I had been doing for past couple years, so this was a breeze compared to other jobs I’d applied for.

    They do a hair drug test so you have to be clean. There’s also a strength test so you need to not have torn a shoulder or f~~~ed up knee or you will fail it. So long as your other paper work is good, and you don’t p~~~ hot, you’ll get hired. I had to relocate to the west coast but I didn’t care. I’m single and not tied down by any family or kids. I was due for another adventure before I hit my 40s and this was it.

    Drove over 3k miles to get there and every step of the way I kept thinking “what the f~~~ are you doing” but I felt like the right move so here I am.

    As for the job itself it’s alot of rules and instructions. The rule book is very intimidating. They love hiring veterans being that they’re used to following strict orders but it’s not required. I had no prior knowledge or experience with the railroad, they train you from scratch. As long as you follow their instructions to the T you will pass the exam.

    Training was around 4 months and it’s paid. They even paid me some money (not much) for relocating (all heavily taxed obviously) and 54 cents per mile driven (it was over 3,500 miles from NYC). There was also a 15k signing bonus (saying that you’ll stay for at least 3 years) which is actually half that since they tax the s~~~ out of that too. You get 5k the first two weeks and then the rest after one year. If you get fired or quit before the three year deal, you have to give it back.

    We started with 12 guys and 8 of us finished. One guy decided he didn’t like the hours. One was fired for not wearing steel toe boots (he’d been warned and still did it again) and another was let go for not getting his training sheet filled out completely (they stress this immensely and the guy still didn’t do it). The last guy though was text book cuckery.

    He moved there with his pregnant wife and son. She gave birth during our training and everything. At the very end of our training they have an argument and she decides to run off with the kids while he’s at work. He finds out during our lunch break and the trainers let him go find her. He finds her back in their home town (dude drove over 10 hours straight to get there). They blame her behavior on post pardom depression. He quits the job and I haven’t heard from him since, nor have I tried to call him. I’m sure he’ll find another job but can’t help but think he made a big mistake (maybe he didn’t, maybe he saved his marriage).

    Pros about this job

    The pay is good. After 5 years it’s very easy to be making over 100k

    The long hours. You can make alot of money doing this job so long as you’re willing to work.

    It’s male heavy environment. The work is honest. It’s a non office environment and management doesn’t f~~~ with you so long as you’re getting the work done.

    The rules are strict but once you get the hang of them the job becomes pretty easy.

    Cons about this job

    Hours are sporadic. You’re always on call. This is not a nine to 5 job. It’s perfect for a mgtow who doesn’t have kids or pets. If you have pets they will suffer. If you have kids they will barely see you. You will miss their recitles or sports games
    The first 3 years your susceptible to being furloughed.
    It is very easy to get fired if you are not following the strict rules.

    You’ll have to chase work and travel out of town for the first two to three years. Guys married with kids have a hard time with this one. Not to mention almost all the men working here for over 10 years have been divorced more than once. And almost all the ones who had serious girlfriends were cheated on.

    The work environment is like any other job. Most guys I work with are cool, but 99 percent of them are all blue pill. I met one Engineer who told me about the mgtow term (he pronounced it “Mig toe” lol). I acted like I’d never heard of it. He found it the hard way though.

    He married his high school sweet heart. While he was on deployment she ran up all his credit cards, cheated on him, got pregnant and tried to pass it off like it was his (he’d been on a 2nd deployment). I asked him how he was able to not strangle that c~~~. I’d have at least pushed in her eye b~~~~. Dude was living out of his car by the time they divorced. He’s doing great now but man, he said he lost over 300k dealing with that entire mess.

    Besides that most guys there are all trapped in the rat race, working while their woman spends what they earn like it’s going out of style. One guy I work with sometimes owns his own houses and had the woman he married sign a prenup. He’s got 4 kids and he seems to know how to run the household, but even with that I don’t doubt that his wife might be cheating. He told me the other day that she wants to get another car. I laughed since he might cave to her request. We’ll see what happens.

    One guy who’s been there for over 8 years just bought a new house, and his wife spent over 16 grand on furniture and appliances. What. The. F~~~.

    It’s real easy to make money with this job but as you can see, it’s also real easy to spend it faster than you make it. Especially if you’re a slave to pussy like most of these guys.

    One guy in my class ended up getting a single mom pregnant and he was talking to me about it like it was awesome. I had to restrain myself from calling him a f~~~ing idiot, but I at least did tell him to get a paternity test to make sure it is really his.

    One of the biggest cons about this job is that it will consume you. For someone like me who’s done partying or socializing it’s perfect. I’m not here to see the sites or make friends. I’m here to work and save up. For men trying to get laid or make friends this job will be depressing for you.

    I’ll be buying either a house or a condo in less than 4 years. This state has some great areas. Still trying to figure out where to buy but not in a rush.

    My main goal is to get into real estate, the sooner the better. Even if I were to get fired from this job I’d start with one house and go from there. But for now I’ll just save up. I’ll rent a room out for now and keep doing research.

    My ten year plan is to keep saving and investing in real estate while continuing to work for the railroad. I have no debt and my credit is amazing and I was able able to do all that while in NYC living pay check to pay check. I’m more than disciplined to achieve this goal and it will happen. Mgtow has taught me to never let anyone or anything get in the way of my plans/goals.

    If any of you are looking for a new change of pace I highly recommend applying for any railroad gig. I’m no genius my any means and I passed the exam. Any questions I’m happy to elaborate further

    #887171

    In reply to: War!

    JVB
    JVB
    Participant

    The liberals need to turn down the rhetoric.
    Good luck trying to win with nothing more than we hate President Trump and wanting to tax you into oblivion.

    First part, good luck with that
    Second part, head hammer nail.

    Peace is > piece.

    #887153

    In reply to: War!

    Ranger One
    Ranger One
    Participant

    https://www.rt.com/usa/430957-america-new-civil-war-trump/
    New American Civil War? Some people think it’s already begun
    From celebrities calling on citizens to take to the streets, to members of Congress calling for the public harassment of White House officials, to mob justice at restaurants — is the US heading toward a new kind of Civil War?
    Well, some people think the seeds of a new Civil War have already been sown — and in a recent article, University of Tennessee Law Professor Glenn Harlan Reynolds argued in a USA Today column that this new war is indeed “well underway.”
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/394123-rep-steve-king-says-us-is-moving-toward-a-civil-war
    Rep. Steve King says US is moving toward a civil war
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/25/sanders-nielsen-incidents-suggest-new-us-civil-war-underway-column/729141002/
    Is America headed toward a civil war? Sanders, Nielsen incidents show it has already begun
    —————————–Liberals have been calling out for violence for fake news like killing the catholic school boys for standing in front of a drumming indian. Maxine Waters has called for violence and has not been stopped by the DNC.,…………….now do I think there is going to be war,…nope. Is there going to be some blood shed yep. Some liberal is going to take it to far and get planted and it will take 10 or 20 before they get the fact bullets bring the pain.
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    My thoughts are if a politician incites violence, and then people are killed, the family of the person killed should retaliate by killing the family of the violence-inciting politician. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander…

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #887150

    In reply to: War!

    MarketWatcher
    MarketWatcher
    Participant

    The liberals need to turn down the rhetoric.

    Good luck trying to win with nothing more than we hate President Trump and wanting to tax you into oblivion.

    #887144

    Topic: War!

    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
    Participant

    https://www.rt.com/usa/430957-america-new-civil-war-trump/

    New American Civil War? Some people think it’s already begun

    From celebrities calling on citizens to take to the streets, to members of Congress calling for the public harassment of White House officials, to mob justice at restaurants — is the US heading toward a new kind of Civil War?

    Well, some people think the seeds of a new Civil War have already been sown — and in a recent article, University of Tennessee Law Professor Glenn Harlan Reynolds argued in a USA Today column that this new war is indeed “well underway.”

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/394123-rep-steve-king-says-us-is-moving-toward-a-civil-war

    Rep. Steve King says US is moving toward a civil war

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/25/sanders-nielsen-incidents-suggest-new-us-civil-war-underway-column/729141002/

    Is America headed toward a civil war? Sanders, Nielsen incidents show it has already begun

    —————————–Liberals have been calling out for violence for fake news like killing the catholic school boys for standing in front of a drumming indian. Maxine Waters has called for violence and has not been stopped by the DNC.
    ,…………….now do I think there is going to be war,…nope. Is there going to be some blood shed yep. Some liberal is going to take it to far and get planted and it will take 10 or 20 before they get the fact bullets bring the pain.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #887130
    JVB
    JVB
    Participant

    It’s like that f~~~ing tranny that spat in a trump supporters face saying “ don’t dare hit a women” whoops , you lose.

    Peace is > piece.

    #886930
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    Sandals can be a little hostile and dramatic with his views but he is correct: the US / Mexico border is a s~~~show. Its an outright invasion down there. Its ridiculous. I live in Texas so I know its true.

    Trump is ABSOLUTELY correct in insisting on a barrier to be built. We’re in a crisis. In fact, it’s worse than Trump says but no one believes him anyway so he cant get the message out.

    I feel bad for the future because I can see that its unstoppable. A good thing and a good people were taken for granted and severely hurt. I’m not talking about just white people, but about REAL Americans who have roots here going back 100-200 years and even more. In my opinion, immigration should never have been re-opened in the 80’s. That was when America’s fate was sealed.

    They let the border become a joke and they imported the 3rd world Arabs and Indians… it all started 35 years ago and the damage cant be undone. We’re in for REALLY dark times and the long term outlook doesnt look good either.

    I dont pretend that anything can be put right at this time… the horse is dead. Only thing left to do is secure your own s~~~ the best you can and watch the collapse.

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