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Washington & Allies start Regime Change in Armenia [1] [2] [3]

Tom Luongo / Tyler Durden
Zerohedge
Leonid Bershidsky
Bloomberg
25th April 2018

After 11 days of mass protests and violent clashes over the perceived power-grab following the outgoing Armenian President’s election to Prime Minister, Serzh Sargsyan has resigned and police have released opposition leader Nikol Pashinyan.

“The people are against my rule,” Sargsyan, who took office as prime minister after serving as Armenia’s president for 10 years, said in a statement.

“I am leaving my post”

For 10 years, Sargsyan had been Armenia’s president. A native of Nagorno Karabakh, disputed by Armenia and Azerbaijan, he rose in the 1990s to become the breakaway region’s defense minister and eventually to occupy the same position in Armenia. The Karabakh issue, important to many Armenians, carried him to victory in the 2008 presidential election.

As president, he played a complex game, letting Russia extend its military presence in Armenia yet also cooperating with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, joining Putin’s pet project the Eurasian Economic Union and signing a partnership agreement with the European Union.

Unlike the leaders of Georgia and Ukraine, who navigated the divide between Russia and the West in much less nuanced ways, Sargsyan was happy to work with anyone except Azerbaijan.

While this stance was geopolitically sound for a small, landlocked country engaged in a festering territorial conflict, Armenia hasn’t done well economically under Sargsyan. It has barely recovered after a 14 percent economic output drop in 2009. Strong economic ties to Russia have been one reason for the slow economic performance, not that Armenia had too many other options.

In 2017, the Armenian economy posted an impressive growth of 7.5 percent, but that was from a low base after almost zero growth in 2016. Through the end of that year, the Armenian economy was tortured by deflation and an anemic domestic demand. The government has consistently run high budget deficits, and unemployment remains above 16 percent.

The Armenian constitution only permits two presidential terms, and in 2015, Sargsyan ran a referendum ostensibly shifting the country to a European-style parliamentary republic run by a prime minister who leads the country as long as his or her party wins elections.

At the time, Sargsyan claimed he didn’t want to become prime minister himself. But in 2017, Sargsyan’s Republican Party won a parliamentary election, and he was elected prime minister last week after his presidential term ran out.

Sargsyan’s election as Prime Minister was largely perceived as a power grab because Sargsyan will largely retain the same powers that he held during his two terms in the Presidential capacity, and took place just after Armenia’s April 9th transition from a presidential system to that of a prime ministerial one.

In response, more than 100,000 Armenians flooded the central square of Yerevan, the nation’s capital, in the biggest rally of the past 20 years. Thousands also took to their balconies to bang on empty saucepans, and thousands more marched in provincial towns.

In total, some 20 percent of the country’s population took part in the protests, led by Nikol Pashinyan, a journalist turned legislator, whose Way Out faction controlled almost 8 percent of the seats in parliament.

Young people were the movement’s driving force: Faced with a choice between emigrating and trying to change things at home, students have, for the first time in decades, chosen the latter option.

Larger Map https://greenevs.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/armenia_map_lg1.jpg

As Bloomberg reports [3], Sargsyan’s announcement came as demonstrators flooded the streets of the capital, Yerevan, for an 11th day on Monday demanding Sargysan’s resignation, and hours after police released opposition leader Nikol Pashinyan from overnight detention.

Pashinyan’s arrest prompted the largest protest to date on Sunday, while scores of troops joined the anti-government movement on Monday [23rd April] for the first time.

But as The Duran’s Frank Sellers [4] detailed previously, this social unrest (and now resignation) has all the markings of a Ukraine-esque Western-backed effort at regime change to once again disrupt Russia.

Western backed Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) have been heavily involved in post Soviet Armenia’s education system, community and charity works. These NGOs have been selling the public on the perception that Armenia’s economic woes are directly the result of their corrupt, Russia friendly government, as well as Russia itself.

Hence, the concept that Sargsyan’s government has only made matters for the population worse is the grievance upon which much of the unrest hinges.

With Sargsyan seen as being in bed with the Russians, and his further development of Armenia’s ties with Russia, these protests therefore possess a potentially disastrous outcome, both domestically, for the Armenians, and also geopolitically, as it threatens Russia’s position in the region.

Armenia is an important part Russia’s long-term plans. A member of the Eurasian Economic Union, Armenia is key to protecting Russia’s southern flank.

However, Armenia has been playing both sides of the fence in recent years, as it has additionally been moving closer to the European Union, signing itself to a Comprehensive and Enhanced Partnership Agreement with the European bloc, attempting to deepen diplomacy and economic ties with the West, while simultaneously making commitments to Russia’s economic initiatives in the region.

Russia gets a villainous wrap over the fact that Russia is playing both sides of the Nagorno Karabakh-Azerb conflict, as Russia is the benefactor of both players, the common perception, derived from the propaganda of these NGOs, is that Russia benefits by stoking the conflict.

So, the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh was activated by the U.S. after a brief visit by then Secretary of State John Kerry as punishment for Russia’s intervention into Syria.

Nagorno-Karabakh had been peaceful for more than twenty years before Kerry’s visit. And within days, fighting broke out on the Azeri side of the region which lies between the two countries.

So, as the Neoconservatives take control of the Trump White House they activate a color revolution in Armenia while simultaneously pushing Russia in Ukraine, Syria, the U.K., the financial markets and seemingly everywhere else at the same time.

Color Revolutions created by western NGOs stoke mild opposition to a sitting government and turns it into a lynch mob by escalating the violence in the streets.

And, indeed, this situation has all the markings of a color revolution, as the ring leader for this movement, Nikol Pashinyan, is already calling it a “velvet revolution”, an allusion to the regime change that took place in Czechoslovakia in 1989.

Keep in mind, however, that Sargsyan hasn’t, thus far, broken any law, nor violated the Armenian constitution, so, Pashinyan’s claim against Sargsyan’s legitimacy can only be viewed as a baseless instigation for further violence and an obstinate unwillingness to look for a middle ground scenario, or peaceful resolution to the situation at hand. An unwillingness to compromise satisfies one of the key factors that is commonly seen in many color revolutions.

The situation, in effect, represents a powder keg scenario, with all the elements in place to provoke the necessary popular discontent that would play into an attempt at regime change.

Pashinyan has called upon protesters to obstruct roadways and prevent the opening of governmental offices, and has been so bold as to declare that the Armenian government “no longer holds legitimacy”, and that all government agencies and police personnel should only be obedient to “committees” appointed by his revolution.

The typical manner in which Western backed color revolutions unfold is when a peaceful protest about legitimate grievances are hijacked to become the catalyst for a violent revolution.

If we consider the EuroMaidan revolution that took place in 2014, a peaceful protest turned violent after the slaughter of the “heavenly hundred” by mystery snipers, killing police and protesters both, in order to help the conflict along to a point of no return to peace.

Why would Armenians now begin trashing Turkish stores in Aleppo (that’s right in Syria) over an internal Armenian political matter?

Because it’ll give Turkish President Erdogan an excuse to finish the Armenian genocide (which Erdogan and Israel refuse to acknowledge happened) his predecessors started a hundred years ago.

And the hope is that this provocation will drive a wedge between Turkey and Russia at a time when everyone’s nerves are frayed to the point of breaking.

Turkey announces over the weekend it is repatriating all of its gold from the Federal Reserve vaults in New York.

Iran announces it no longer accepts dollars in its business dealings and switches to the euro for international trade, in preparation for Trump decertifying the JCPOA and re-establishing sanctions from 2012 which includes SWIFT expulsion again.

If Armenia’s government falls here there will be an immediate push to get them into NATO and create an absolute nightmare in the region.

So, that puts everyone in a bind because Russia has to continue backing the existing government which it shares a very strategic military integration with.

Remember, Armenia is a member of the CSTO and has a joint military command agreement with Moscow.

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So, this coup attempt at this point in time is quite a cynical and inflammatory move in the wake of Azeri elections which sees Russian-Azeri relations continue improving. The latest being a commitment to triple Azeri exports to Russia over the next few years.

Russia has skillfully managed its relationship with both countries under Putin with Armenia obviously the more important of the two strategically since it protects Russia’s southern flank.

And a stable Armenia means a much slower flow of ‘terrorists’ coming into Russia.

Asked on April 19 for a reaction to the Armenian protests, Maria Zakharova, spokesperson for the Russian Foreign Ministry, merely expressed a conviction that “the situation in friendly Armenia will be resolved democratically and lawfully.”

Pashinyan interpreted that as a decision not to support Sargsyan, and he was probably right. Given Sargsyan’s decision to resign, there’s no reason to speak of a coup, as official Moscow did after the Ukrainian revolution.

The goal of Syria, among other things, is the creation of a failed state and terrorist stronghold to destabilize the region, including Iraq, Iran and Turkey, but with the ultimate goal of bleeding Russia white over time.

And as each domino falls, the harder it is for Russia to defend its positions in the former Soviet republics. This is why Putin has been so focused on developing stronger defense and economic ties with these countries. He’s been skillful in his diplomacy with Ukbezistan, for example, after the death of its long-time leader Karimov in September of 2016.

The same can be said for how he and Iranian President Rouhani have handled relations with Azerbaijan, despite the open wound of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Sadly, as Sellers concludes, many Armenians are of the persuasion that by changing their government and rejecting Russia as Armenia’s strategic partner, in favour of hopeful Western integration, Armenia will realize greater economic opportunity, and a vastly improved standard of living for the average Armenian.

An about-face with regards to Russia, and an adherence to the West, however, not only fails to present the economic outcome that many Armenians might hope for, but it presents a very real danger in the form of a greater escalation of conflict with its neighbor Azerbaijan, with regards to Nagorno Karabakh, the last such major conflict costed the lives of some 6,000 Armenians, and approximately 30,000 Azeris.

Such a renewed conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan produces results that are simply unpredictable, concerning the geopolitical implications regarding the involvement of Russia and NATO, seeing as Armenia hosts Russian military bases, while Azerbaijan is host to a NATO base, but if the Armenians have broken off its relations with the Russians in the favor of the West, Russian involvement is left in a state of bewilderment, while the conflict devastates Russia’s economic and military perspective in the region. This, therefore, holds the possibility of being the next proxy war between Russia and the West

So, as things ratchet up in Armenia, the question over the next few days will be whether the removal of long-time Russian ally Sargsyan from Armenia politics will be enough to dissipate the current anger.

Citations

[1] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-24/armenia-heats-proxy-war-continues
[2] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-23/western-backed-regime-change-looms-armenia-pm-resigns-following-mass-protests
[3] https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-04-23/armenia-s-revolution-is-a-lesson-for-putin
[4] http://theduran.com/will-armenia-be-the-next-victim-of-western-backed-regime-change/

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Men are the one who need the jobs. If you’re a woman in China, you basically won the lottery. Just pick one of the million thirsty available single guys and you’ll never have to work a day in your life.

And yet China has the problem of millions upon millions of leftover women who no man will touch. Funny that.

The only times antiques are desired is when they become more valuable than their initial price.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

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I heard this guy was “known to police”, then I heard “middle eastern accent”, etc., then somebody tripped over the “incel” “Chad” and “Stacie” comments on 4chan, and they just pulled up stakes and called it a day.

It’s like once they were able to steer the narrative away from it being an Islamic terror attack into something they could rally against in a politically popular way, they were done with the explanations.

No w they can move on to the “kill all MGTOW” marches along with the standard “kill all men” marches.
If they are lucky, they can find a way to tie it in with Trump and the “Pussy grabber” marches.

http://tasteofcountry.com/shania-twain-would-have-voted-for-trump/

Shania Twain Apologizes After Saying She Would Have Voted for Trump If She Could

http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/23/kanye-wests-return-twitter-triggering-left/

Kanye West’s Return To Twitter Is Triggering The Left

This week, Kanye West tweeted that he loved Elon Musk, affirmed gender fluidity, and criticized capitalism and religion, but libs are outraged the ‘Yeezy’ rapper is questioning some aspects of leftism.

——-The left is so pigeon minded, anyone in the show/entertainment business who expresses even a little free thinking gets hammered back into place by the others. Twain failed. It will be interesting if West ends up back in place.
Side note love West’s comment about them being in a mental prison.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[DocParticipant]

Haitian IIRC

She took offence to Trump calling her country a s~~~ hole.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

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Anonymous wrote:

“A migrant caravan that began its journey through Mexico a month ago has reached the US border, where its arrival will set up a confrontation between the Trump administration’s anti-immigration policies and US laws that require the United States to grant asylum to people with valid persecution claims.

A group of about 130 women and children arrived Tuesday afternoon in Mexicali, on the Mexican side of the US border, after an overnight bus trip from Hermosillo, in Mexico’s Sonora state. They were expected to be followed by as many as 500 other migrants late Tuesday and Wednesday.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/the-central-american-caravan-that-angered-trump-is-nearing

I want M1A2 Abrams tanks firing NOW dammit! Infantry with mortars, claymores, mines, to hell with these migrant sons of bitches.

Yes yes, film it on video, women and kids torn apart by the canon blast.

Apocalypse now in real life, transmit it life, I will get the popcorn ready.

0 f~~~s given.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

“A migrant caravan that began its journey through Mexico a month ago has reached the US border, where its arrival will set up a confrontation between the Trump administration’s anti-immigration policies and US laws that require the United States to grant asylum to people with valid persecution claims.

A group of about 130 women and children arrived Tuesday afternoon in Mexicali, on the Mexican side of the US border, after an overnight bus trip from Hermosillo, in Mexico’s Sonora state. They were expected to be followed by as many as 500 other migrants late Tuesday and Wednesday.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/the-central-american-caravan-that-angered-trump-is-nearing

I want M1A2 Abrams tanks firing NOW dammit! Infantry with mortars, claymores, mines, to hell with these migrant sons of bitches.

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Anonymous wrote:

It’sallbs wrote:

You ever heard and old fog horn -that’s what my bass tube was like

My neighbor used to play his trumpet on the water, the echoes were awesome, also had a bag piper in the family play amazing grace on the same jetty, it’s an enormous amphitheater, I learned when I was a kid you can hear what people are saying all around the lake, I learned to watch what I was saying anywhere near the water! Calm water the sound travels unabated.

HOLY S~~~ – I leave for a lunch meeting and this thread has gone awry! Makes me wanna pop a top on a cold beer.

Oh yeah- water makes the voice carry. I pulled my boat over at just passed dusk and bent a girl over the console. She was very vocal and I kept trying to hush her. She said no one could hear us. Then way across the lake people started cheering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It’sallbs wrote:

You ever heard and old fog horn -that’s what my bass tube was like

My neighbor used to play his trumpet on the water, the echoes were awesome, also had a bag piper in the family play amazing grace on the same jetty, it’s an enormous amphitheater, I learned when I was a kid you can hear what people are saying all around the lake, I learned to watch what I was saying anywhere near the water! Calm water the sound travels unabated.

I took a vacation on a lake once.
To get away from music.

This lame ass bag piper would start playing at sunrise.

When he came to the high note, it would sqauk.

So hed start over at tte beginning.

Same thing.

Over and over.

I wanted to f~~~ing kill him. Hahha

[Anonymous]

It’sallbs wrote:

You ever heard and old fog horn -that’s what my bass tube was like

My neighbor used to play his trumpet on the water, the echoes were awesome, also had a bag piper in the family play amazing grace on the same jetty, it’s an enormous amphitheater, I learned when I was a kid you can hear what people are saying all around the lake, I learned to watch what I was saying anywhere near the water! Calm water the sound travels unabated.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Y_ wrote:

False flag. ‘They’ let him do this to get support for gun control. Even planted the idea and plan who knows?

Expect more of these ‘events’ as the mid-terms get closer.

The DNC has decided to sue much of the world in attempt to overturn the 2016 November Presidential election.

The DNC platform is sour grapes that only those within the DNC social bubble support.

Even if DNC get the judge in the case in their pocket, they forget a few things.

1. President Trump lawyers have probably have handled most of their civil cases in New York City. President Trump likely has more connections than the DNC in New York City.

If those at the DNC were intelligent, they would have filed the suit in a federal court in Los Angeles. Filing the suit in NYC gives President Trump the home field advantage. If the DNC wants to play dirty in NYC court they are going to get their asses handed to them. Which leads to number, 2.

2. President Trump has Rudy Giuliani on his side. While not holding any official office presently, Mr. Guiliani the de facto Don of NYC law enforcement. He is the only man that can claim to have lead the clean up New York City to where NYC was livable and prove it. Mr. Guiliani proofed that under the right leadership urban decay and destruction of the major cities can be reversed.

The President and Mr. Guiliani are long time friends. The only reason Mr. Guiliani has not been at the President’s side for the last year was that Mr. Guiliani had to deal with an unexpected divorce. Now that is cleared up, I expect great things from these to working together.

From all this, there is the added bonus of several grassroots urban liberals raking the DNC over the political coals for this lawsuit. It is likely when the DNC realize they just screwed themselves with their voter base and fundraisers, they are likely going to turn to ANTIFA to have a summer of rage in the hopes this will be blamed on the Republicans and President Trump.

But, that summer of rage did not get to a good started last weekend. I would believe that someone in Georgia organized a honey pot for ANTIFA, with that Nazi group being the bait. The Nazi groups rarely openly protests. Especially in the South. This screams bait for ANTIFA. And the local police were ready to arrest ANTIFA for wearing masks which it is illegal for protesters to wear masks while protesting in Georgia.

Here is something the corporate media will not admit. From this baiting last weekend it is clear the real radicals in the nation do not like ANTIFA and the SJWs.

On the other side, from what I can gather, the Nation of Islam is biding its time to take over the democrat party. The Clinton followers and the pro-invasion hispanics were forced to share power with the black muslims to keep the Bernie supporters out of the DNC leadership. The black muslim are backing off letting the Clinton followers and the pro-invasion hispanics politically destroy themselves. The DNC lawsuit is a good example of this self-destruction.

Many black muslims in the U.S. are black separatists. They do not care if the democrat party become regional, as long as they can carve out land for their supporters and they have a voice on matters in government.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

This shooting will not help gun control propaganda for three reasons.

One, the shooter from Illinois, and has an open dislike for President Trump and his supporters.

Two, the shooter last summer jumped the fence one the White House lawn, and reported to make threats against the President.

Three, the shooter was arrested for his actions last summer, held by the feds WHOM LET HIM GO!!

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Autolite wrote:

ScarberianMPTGL wrote:
Yeah, why do you think I don’t vote? I already know no matter what we’re f~~~ed.

I don’t blame you. But we’re at fault too. Our only (very slim) chance to beat the Turd in the next election was with Maxime Bernier. I don’t dislike Andrew Scheer but he wasn’t our best shot for getting rid of JT. Bernier would have given us Quebec and that’s a real biggie for anyone wanting to get elected as a Canadian Prime Minister. I don’t understand why Conservative party members couldn’t see that.

Turdeau is dropping in the polls but the next federal election is still too far away for that to make any difference. The bottom line is you could have YouTube videos of Turdeau butt-f~~~ing dead babies and he still won’t loose his core supporters…

The retards in Ontario will still vote Justine Castro in. He’ll present another budget in early 2019 with another 20 billion dollar deficit to buy off his voters. Everyone knows he’s a retard but the talk in this province has nothing to do with a conservative option but with maybe going NDP federally. Holy f~~~. And provincially I still have to listen to people say “maybe will have to vote NDP this time”. God damn I hope Doug Ford wins this year provincially and then retard Turdeau gets booted out next year. I dreamed a dream Trump would win, maybe it could happen here.

Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.

[Two Time WinnerParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

If the backpage shutdown is any indication, the government under the Trump Administration likely considers “dating apps” to be a form of “illegal prostitution”.

Trump needs to fire that f~~~ing idiot Sessions. Stepping up federal prosecution of legal marijuana dealers in states that allow it. Shutting down Backpage, which didn’t hurt me unless my current favorite girl goes out of business. I’ve got her on speed dial. Looks like he wants to take us back to where anything that is fun is a crime.

TTW

I ain't got a wife to spend my money, I have to do that all by myself.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

As Faust and I pointed out last week the real f~~~ up here is that in filing suit they (DNC) have opened the door to “discovery” and there is no way that the DNC can endure discovery. They have WAY to much to hide and WAY to many (literally) Skeletons in the closet. I’ll be interested in ANY E-mails dealing with Seth Rich.

I remember reading your post.

The really fun part is President Trump tweeted these above examples and more.

Those in the DNC have forgotten the dangers of being on the civilian side of the law. They still act like the government will shield their every action. Barring a few examples, those at the DNCs are civilians, and the DNC is a corporate civilian entity, whom are suing among other people, the allies of the current President of the United States.

While I look forward to the counter-suits and discovery motions, I am really looking forward to seeing the depositions where all these democrat jerks to testify under oath.

Maybe someone should start a betting pool of who is called first, second, third, etc, by the defense, in this coming civil case.

I do no believe they would call Hillary to testify first. She will likely be one of the last called. Or maybe she will be the first and later called again. But, Obama will likely be called to testify at some point as well. They are private citizens now. They cannot refuse to testify unless they leave the country for the duration of the civil cases that involve them.

Also, a really interesting part is the ratings avalanche will benefit the alt-media because much of the corporate media will not report this because they will likely be dragged in and part of the civil case.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

If the backpage shutdown is any indication, the government under the Trump Administration likely considers “dating apps” to be a form of “illegal prostitution”.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Romulus wrote:

Faust For Science wrote:

Patience. Last Friday, the DNC just committed financial and political suicide with their lawsuit against President Trump’s family, allies, along with Wikileaks and Russia.
The counter-suits, discovery motions, and depositions under oath will politically bury the DNC and their allies.

I agree. Imagine having to actually turn over the actual laptops for real forensic reviews. If they haven’t been bleached already.

I suspect the suit will have served its useful purpose of keeping this issue in the minds of voters, as the Mueller investigation is rolling snake eyes. Once the elections are over, this suit will be dropped.

This DNC lawsuit will backfire in so many ways. But, the one way that the allies of the DNC do not realize is they are screwed as well by this lawsuit. That includes many people in the media whom will likely be called to testify under oath in this court case, at the very least.

This is going to be a lawyer bonanza, hundreds if not thousands of people lawyering up on this matter on all sides.

And unlike the democrats, the Trump family has deep pockets and they protect those loyal to them.

The DNC thinks they can bankrupt the Trump family and their allies with lawyer fees. The Trump family has probably spent more money on lawyer fees for lawsuits that all the current members of Congress and the Senate combined.

President Trump spent over a hundred million of his own money in his campaign and he smiled as he did it.

I have already heard reports the Trumps are helping some of their allies with lawyer fees from other matters.

The DNC picked a legal fight with a family whom have literally an army of lawyers on retainer, at a time the DNC is flat broke, with the election looming in just over six months.

If the counter-suits happen, the corporate media lawyers are going to tell their bosses to back off of politics in general to attempt to avoid being dragged into this coming court case.

The Metoo movement took a major hit to the democrats celebrate fundraisers. The ones whom energize the democrat voter base and fundraising groups. This lawsuits will drive those that did not go down from the Metoo movement out of the country for the time being to avoid the lawsuits.

No one is going to donate to the democrats, even individuals candidates, if they fear being called into a lawsuit if they do.

In attempting to politically isolate President Trump and his allies, the DNC has politically isolated themselves and their allies.

The DNC has effectively killed the democrat party.

The democrats running for re-election are either going to parrot Trump MAGA policies or go quiet and whom they can weather the political s~~~storm the DNC kicked up.

To understand what I am talking about. It is likely the DNC servers in question mentioned in the lawsuits likely no longer exist. This is to prevent the Trump family from having those servers turned over to them with discovery motions.

The DNC are going to likely claim that the company Counter Strike, whom the DNC claims found the Russia hacking on DNC serves is evidence enough for the lawsuit. Keep in mind the DNC kept lawsuit enforcement from looking a those serves.

Then, the case comes down to the legitimacy of the company Counter Strike.

This is where it gets real interesting. Counter Strike is partly owned by Google, whom also owns Youtube. Google is owned by Alphabet Inc. The Trump family will likely use discovery motions on Google, Youtube, and Alphabet Inc to prove an agenda to conspire to censor and defame President Trump and his Trump supporters, thus proving that Counter Strike lacks legitimacy.

That is only one thread of many in this web in this coming court case.

[RomulusParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Patience. Last Friday, the DNC just committed financial and political suicide with their lawsuit against President Trump’s family, allies, along with Wikileaks and Russia.
The counter-suits, discovery motions, and depositions under oath will politically bury the DNC and their allies.

I agree. Imagine having to actually turn over the actual laptops for real forensic reviews. If they haven’t been bleached already.

I suspect the suit will have served its useful purpose of keeping this issue in the minds of voters, as the Mueller investigation is rolling snake eyes. Once the elections are over, this suit will be dropped.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

The “Good” jobs don’t equate to thirty years of a steady income, pension, and a gold watch anymore.

Those days have been steadily eroding for the past 50 years with no end in sight.

Make America Great Again ?????? I don’t see it happening, and I Hope that I’m WRONG.

Patience. Last Friday, the DNC just committed financial and political suicide with their lawsuit against President Trump’s family, allies, along with Wikileaks and Russia.

The counter-suits, discovery motions, and depositions under oath will politically bury the DNC and their allies.

The political poison the DNC took is going to destroy them, though it will take some day for the effects to be fully felt.

Also, the doom and gloom about the U.S. economy are the economists whom are losing money due to them investing in globalism instead of nationalism.

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https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/democrats-are-getting-desperate-as-mueller-stalls/

Democrats are getting desperate as Mueller stalls

It’s not just Hillary Clinton who can’t quit Russia. The whole Democratic Party keeps going back to 2016.

In a move that reeks of desperation, the DNC filed a civil suit Friday against President Trump’s campaign, Russia and WikiLeaks, alleging a vast (right wing!) conspiracy to tip the election to Trump.

The suit’s flamboyant charges made headlines, but that only served to obscure the real meaning. Namely, that top Dems are giving up their fantasies that special counsel Robert Mueller will deliver them from political purgatory by getting the goods on Trump.

The trashy suit is their way of trying to keep impeachment and Russia, Russia, Russia alive for the midterms in case Mueller’s probe comes up empty.

——-ny post making fun of the dnc lawsuit.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/