DNC file lawsuit against Trump/Russia/Wiki

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  • #787816
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democratic-party-files-lawsuit-alleging-russia-the-trump-campaign-and-wikileaks-conspired-to-disrupt-the-2016-campaign/ar-AAw6YTh?OCID=ansmsnnews11

    The Democratic National Committee filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit Friday against the Russian government, the Trump campaign and the WikiLeaks organization alleging a far-reaching conspiracy to disrupt the 2016 campaign and tilt the election to Donald Trump.

    The complaint, filed in federal district court in Manhattan, alleges that top Trump campaign officials conspired with the Russian government and its military spy agency to hurt Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and help Trump by hacking the computer networks of the Democratic Party and disseminating stolen material found there.

    “During the 2016 presidential campaign, Russia launched an all-out assault on our democracy, and it found a willing and active partner in Donald Trump’s campaign,” DNC Chairman Tom Perez said in a statement.

    ——–This f~~~ing takes the damned cake. The one party that was in collusion with Russia in the 2016 election files a lawsuit against the one that did not.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #787819
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    Here is another link: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-20/democratic-party-sues-russia-trump-wikileaks-conspiring-hurt-hillary-2016-election

    Someone should send a “thank you” card to whomever thought this was a good idea.

    This is the last act of desperation. All the evidence coming out clearing President Trump, while showing the entrapment and open coup against him. Support for President Trump rising, with many people viewing he is a victim of a unjust political witchhunt. And now there less chance Mueller will be able to “create a crime” to impeach President Trump, especially since anything in last weeks raid would not be admissible in a court of law, given the raid was unconstitutional.

    There have been two judges involved in this mess with ties to Hillary and Soros.

    This lawsuit is the last act of the DNC to try to protect Hillary and themselves by suing in attempt to save their collusion accusations from being used against them.

    The DNC is trying to use civil law to stop criminal law.

    The discovery motions by the defense in the coming lawsuit should be interesting. And attempting to judge shop this lawsuit will only make things worse for the DNC.

    From the ZH link, it is showing the anti-American media is trying to claim this will be like the Nixon-Watergate scandal lawsuit, that this will be the finally used to drive President Trump from office.

    They are trying to relive their past glories, like generals fighting the last war. President Nixon is no President Trump. Those opposing President Trump in this open coup have openly broken many laws in attempt to remove President Trump from office. Any lawsuit is going to backfire. And the situation will backfire if the DNC judge shops for favorable judge, because this can be proven due to the number of people constantly researching this whole mess.

    Tens of millions of eyes on this matter at any given time.

    The globalists, DNC, and their sycophants are creating a situation where to save the nation President Trump will have to declare parts of the government and population to be in open rebellion against the lawful government, a rebellion which must be put down.

    If these fools do actually drive President Trump from office, they will have destroyed what legatiacy was left of government, and supporters of President Trump will used their firearms to rebel against an unlawful regime change.

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    I think this may be a stalling technique until the mid-terms to keep the dirty linen out of the public eye. If the lawsuit pushes and succeeds for information to be kept privileged then people may still vote DNC candidates into Congress. After that it may not matter too much to them if Congress successfully changed hands.

    Yes the DNC fallout would be enormous but a Democract majority Congress can be a gamechanger as well. The people behind the DNC care not who is sacrificed.

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    I think this may be a stalling technique until the mid-terms to keep the dirty linen out of the public eye.

    This is a stalling tactic and so braze it will likely start to fall apart within hours.

    This lawsuit is an omission that after years of searching, they cannot find anything on President Trump.

    Yes the DNC fallout would be enormous but a Democract majority Congress can be a gamechanger as well.

    This lawsuit shows the only way the DNC wins is to rig the results. The only blue wave possible is rigging the election. A possibility, but with so many eyes on things such a rigging would fracture the nation further towards civil war, or dictatorship.

    It is seven months out from the election. If this s~~~ was tried a month before the election, that might work.

    But, it is to far out for such desperate tactics to have legs.

    The people behind the DNC care not who is sacrificed.

    That will be their undoing. The DNC and globalists are throwing to many people in the know under the political bus. There is not enough time to “accident” them all.

    Right now, Comey and McCabe are going at it with each other: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-18/comey-calls-mccabe-liar-mccabes-attorneys-fire-back

    Both of these men use to work with each. They have a lot of dirt on each other and those whom are trying to thrown them under the political bus.

    The DNC lawsuit might be a attempt to have a gag order on everyone to keep the infighting from spinning out of control. But, given these fools have been ignoring the law for years, ignoring a court order to save their asses seems a real possibility.

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    If these fools do actually drive President Trump from office, they will have destroyed what legatiacy was left of government, and supporters of President Trump will used their firearms to rebel against an unlawful regime change.

    Some people may rebel against an unlawful regime change.

    Other people will respond to an unlawful regime change with genocide, thus solving more long-term problems.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #787850
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    A criminal charge has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. A civil suit is 51/49, a much lower hurdle. If you are failing in the criminal charges, you dumb it down to a civil suit.

    OJ was never convicted, but he lost his civil trial.

    That said, I wonder what they DNC thinks the damages would be that they are seeking? Hillary put in the White House?

    Order the good wine

    #787855
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    A criminal charge has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. A civil suit is 51/49, a much lower hurdle. If you are failing in the criminal charges, you dumb it down to a civil suit.

    But, in civil court, the defendants can sue the plaintiffs. Also, discovery motions become very interesting.

    OJ was never convicted, but he lost his civil trial.

    OJ was likely guilty and that was why he did not counter-sue in civil court.

    That said, I wonder what they DNC thinks the damages would be that they are seeking?

    Good question.

    Hillary put in the White House?

    In their deranged minds, they might think that is possible.

    The DNC is suing on the grounds they lost the presidential election. This is laughing stalk level territory by the DNC.

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    Good Luck With ALL THAT !!

    Signs of a DESPERATE GROUP willing to TRY ANYTHING………

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    #787880
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    Good Luck With ALL THAT !!

    Signs of a DESPERATE GROUP willing to TRY ANYTHING………

    That is the understatement. This is an article by the elitists is beyond insanity: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-20/who-will-bail-america-out-then

    The article is wish fulfillment by the elitists, being for the elitists not to worry is the Mueller coup fails, President Trump will be removed from office by being blamed for a coming (engineered) banking crisis. (The article leaves out the President could respond to a such a situation being arresting the bankers like China does every so often.)

    The article continues to dig the hole by claiming that those (tens of millions of gun toting) flyover country Americans that voted for President Trump simply will not exist by the next election. (The elitists are taking a snobbish, “I do not like you so you do not exist”, approach to the supporters of President Trump.)

    If they remove President Trump from office, those tens of millions of armed citizens they prefer to ignore are going to overthrow the elitists.

    #787896
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    The DNC is suing on the grounds they lost the presidential election. This is laughing stalk level territory by the DNC.

    Hillary Clinton is a laughingstock. Even Mike Dukakis had enough dignity and sense to fade into obscurity after his loss. Then again, Mike is a man. Not a woman.

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    Even Mike Dukakis had enough dignity and sense to fade into obscurity after his loss. Then again, Mike is a man. Not a woman.

    Mr. Dukakis is also sane.

    I keep looking at this lawsuit and I do not see a positive for the DNC to do this. There is no way this works for them.

    This will not work as a distraction because it shifts the focus for the periphery, with Comey and McCabe, to the heart of the DNC, while possibly highlighting the lawsuit the DNC faced for rigging the 2016 Democrat primaries, the Hillary e-mails, and Democrat spy scandal.

    Worst of all, in such a legal case, President Trump would now be able to directly strike back with discovery motions, counter-suing, and calling all his accusers to the stand as witnesses, to be placed under oath, while they testify in a court of law.

    Up until this point, President Trump was at a disadvantage with the FBI, DOJ, and corporate media being in bed with the DNC. Now, President Trump has in theory a much better level playing field to politically fight from. Even trying to have an insider judge would quickly fall apart.

    Now, President Trump could have everyone from Hillary, Comey, McCabe, and any number of other people, including people in government, industry, media, and social media called to testify.

    Think about this, President Trump could call almost all of his political enemies to testify.

    President Trump could call Soros to the stand, if Soros is in the U.S.

    Also, while Civil Court is different from Criminal Court, it is the same in both types of courts that witnesses whom testify are put under oath and can commit perjury while giving a statement, or signing a statement.

    This lawsuit by the DNC just handed President Trump a way to entrap his political enemies in “process crimes”, like his political enemies have been trying to do to him for over the last year and a half.

    Also, those called to testify will have to spend money on legal fees.

    For the DNC and those connected to the DNC, this lawsuit is a no win situation.

    It will likely not be long before someone in the DNC goes, “HOLY S~~~! WHAT HAVE WE DONE!”

    #787953
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    The Trump Administration has responded to the DNC lawsuit: http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04/breaking-trump-campaign-responds-to-frivolous-dnc-lawsuit-warns-loser-democrats-of-aggressive-discovery-phase/

    The response is what a sane individual would expect. That being an “aggressive discovery phase”.

    In other words, President Trump has stated to the effect that if the DNC wants to do the legal tango, he is ready to dance.

    #787961
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    This lawsuit is going nowhere fast…why? See below:

    The issue of Standing, or locus standi, the capacity of a party to bring suit in court.

    At the federal level, legal actions cannot be brought simply on the ground that an individual or group is displeased with a government action or law. Federal courts only have constitutional authority to resolve actual disputes (Case or Controversy).

    In Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife (90-1424), 504 U.S. 555 (1992), the Supreme Court created a three-part test to determine whether a party has standing to sue:
    1.The plaintiff must have suffered an “injury in fact,” meaning that the injury is of a legally protected interest which is (a) concrete and particularized and (b) actual or imminent
    2.There must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct brought before the court
    3.It must be likely, rather than speculative, that a favorable decision by the court will redress the injury.

    The current suit fails on all counts. What is the ACTUAL injury? The legally protected interest? The loss of an election?

    How are they going to establish a causal connection (Hillary loses) with the injury (Russian interference)

    Finally, is this even actionable? No because courts have no power to remedy the action complained of. Say they win their suit what do the courts have the power to do about it? NOTHING?

    This is a nothing burger guys.

    #787965
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    What is a judge going to do? Bang his gavel and declare the election invalid? DO-OVER; the first election was a mulligan…think again.

    #787984
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    This lawsuit is going nowhere fast…why? See below:

    The issue of Standing, or locus standi, the capacity of a party to bring suit in court.

    At the federal level, legal actions cannot be brought simply on the ground that an individual or group is displeased with a government action or law. Federal courts only have constitutional authority to resolve actual disputes (Case or Controversy).

    In Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife (90-1424), 504 U.S. 555 (1992), the Supreme Court created a three-part test to determine whether a party has standing to sue:
    1.The plaintiff must have suffered an “injury in fact,” meaning that the injury is of a legally protected interest which is (a) concrete and particularized and (b) actual or imminent
    2.There must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct brought before the court
    3.It must be likely, rather than speculative, that a favorable decision by the court will redress the injury.

    The current suit fails on all counts. What is the ACTUAL injury? The legally protected interest? The loss of an election?

    How are they going to establish a causal connection (Hillary loses) with the injury (Russian interference)

    Finally, is this even actionable? No because courts have no power to remedy the action complained of. Say they win their suit what do the courts have the power to do about it? NOTHING?

    This is a nothing burger guys.

    Thanks for the information, Pete.

    The DNC better pray their lawsuit is thrown out, because if not, President Trump’s legal team are going to legally push for discovery motions everything they can on the DNC and the allies of the DNC.

    #787985
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    What is a judge going to do? Bang his gavel and declare the election invalid? DO-OVER; the first election was a mulligan…think again.

    There are likely a few judges that would try to overturn the election just to stroke their own ego.

    Some people on the web are already calling this lawsuit is “sour grapes insanity” over the 2016 November election. They lost and they refuse to admit they lost.

    #787986
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    President Trump’s legal team are going to legally push for discovery motions everything they can on the DNC and the allies of the DNC.

    And Faust DOES IT AGAIN! YES BROTHER! HA HA HA

    You hit the nail on the head! OPPPPPPSSSS Lets find out what Debbie Wasserman Schultze was REALLY Up to! TOO f~~~ing funny.

    #787995
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    President Trump’s legal team are going to legally push for discovery motions everything they can on the DNC and the allies of the DNC.

    And Faust DOES IT AGAIN! YES BROTHER! HA HA HA

    You hit the nail on the head! OPPPPPPSSSS Lets find out what Debbie Wasserman Schultze was REALLY Up to! TOO f~~~ing funny.

    I predict if this lawsuit moves forward that several people connected to the DNC will leave the country. Some of them may claim they are political refugees.

    This would be more damaging to the DNC than being called as a witness to testify because it locks them out of local (within the U.S.) politics and fundraising for the DNC.

    Think how many lobbyists, lawyers, executives whom have ties to the DNC might decided it is a good time to leave the U.S. rather than get caught up in this lawsuit mess.

    While the DNC try to isolate President Trump, they are cutting their ties with their allies and isolating themselves.

    No one wants to publicly associate themselves with a group that has become openly politically and possibly legally radioactive.

    This is how Hillary took control of the DNC. Everyone else with money left the DNC to wither and Hillary literally bought the DNC.

    Due to Hillary having at one point questionably own the DNC, President Trump’s lawyers might even get records on almost everything Hillary is connected to, including the Clinton Foundation and the list of donors and donation amounts of that foundation.

    #788127
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    ……………..I think this is directly tied into the Cohen case. With that judge that broke the client attorney privilege. A judge that will go ignore the legal norm just might do anything. Giving rise to this DNC mess.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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