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Also @gnostic , are you a westernized Indian guy? lol.
Why any man would want a woman for company is beyond me
Feminist brainwashing is the reason. Men have always been ill advised to keep the company of women, and the most respected men have always been the ones who completely shun women. The sexes were never supposed to socialize.
As Yossi ben Yohannan from Jerusalem rightly said:
“Don’t talk much with a woman. Hence the saying of the wise — When a man talks much with the woman, he harms himself, neglects his studies and will end in hell”When girls were allowed into schools in the late 19th century they were segregated from the boys. Even if you look at many non-western countries today in public gatherings women often sit separately from the men.
Women were strictly forbidden to enter public spaces. And even inside the house, as the saying goes — Women should be seen and not heard.
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
“Don’t talk much with a woman. Hence the saying of the wise — When a man talks much with the woman, he harms himself, neglects his studies and will end in hell”
Haha I like it.
Haha I like it.
When you see way single mothers utterly destroy their kids, the way women nag their husbands to an early grave, how women use diabolical tactics to create illusions and steal….. you really have to wonder
In ancient Aryan culture it was known that the wife has caused the husband’s premature death. That’s why the wife (or wives) were burned to death after the husband passed away.
Not that it is right in any way!
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
Hahahaha.
This talk of ‘hatred of women’.
I don’t think it’s a particularly cognitively useful basis for MGTW since one only hates what one fears or feels powerless against.
Anyway, nothing more to add than that….. hatred isn’t useful, it shows weakness and fear…… much better to ignore and transcend…
And Diamond, I think you’re laying it on a bit thick…… Hating women to the point of obsession is tantamount to adoring them. You’re giving them too much credit and they really ain’t worth half of it….. but then I ain’t ever been married. I’m the MGTOW who came here the easy way.
1. There was no famine in Ancient Rome from 400BC till the collapse of civilization in 400AD. That’s a full 8 centuries without famine!! As far as Ancient Greece is concerned food shortages were again, rare. You can read more in this book https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wU9FCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=famines+ancient+greece&source=bl&ots=NZjKRASyss&sig=Axrbaw64avtzYklqok2PFvC3IVg&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=famines%20ancient%20greece&f=false
Indo-Aryans were prosperous and they practised this. A quick look at the demographics of India shows that they are a majority of the population (Over 75%). Famines in India mainly began after the 18th century when the British started taking away the backup grain which was kept in case of crop failure.
There have been several civilizations (all strict patriarchies) which haven’t seen famines for centuries. You are factually incorrect. Modern equipment is NOT required for sufficient food supply. Saying that patriarchal systems are a product of food insecurity is ridiculous. Look at Saudi Arabia; it is one of the richest countries in the world and still a strict patriarchy……. No war, no famines.
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If modern equipment is not required for sufficient food supply why I see the world hunger campaign from time to time? Why I keep seeing the African countries are starving? Why we see western world are giving aid in the form of introducing more advance farming technologies to the third world countries?
And did Saudi Arabia always being rich before discovery of extensive use of oil? No famine only means the elites of the civilization have a abundance of food, not that the majority of non elites do not have food limitation. And I only find that in Ancient Greece that women have to wait for the men to eat first, not that women must eat less.The so call “Patriarchal systems” are a product of food insecurity before the civilization rise to prosperity, and what value women can bring to the table that keep that tradition.
2. Men didn’t protect them simply because they were women, but only the useful ones. We are in agreement. Their only use is producing children and even those useful ones are confined to the house, used as slaves and beaten accordingly.
Even useless oxen and sheep are not kept just like useless men….. but that doesn’t mean oxen are equal to men.
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3. In case you aren’t aware of this fact, here in the west we used to have the “NO WOMEN ALLOWED” sign in public places, where men were free to go. Slavery of your own countrymen men was legal in Europe during certain periods but it was banned in Ancient China, India, Egypt and Persia….. where most of the human population lived.
Just because you have to stay in your place of work, doesn’t mean someone is forcing you to be confined to that area and forbidding you from going to other places. They are 2 completely different things. Again you’re factually incorrect...
Yes women have always been known to be mentally defective on account of which they were not given an education, control of wealth/property or even control over their own lives.
And men is expected to protect themselves, or provide something of value for the civilization to protect the men. And women did not protect the men, nor provide as much value to the men. Hence women get the better deal.
And low status men are not allow in public places either like the untouchables.
Of course women entered into a contract that they are only confined to an area to avoid starving is not the same with men confined to their workspace. Men have to take up the burdens of civilization to avoid starving does not have a better deal than the women contract. I never say they are the same, I said men don’t get the better deal.See around you, most women are mentally defective with or without education, control of property or their lives.
But women have also always been known to be evil and men have always been advised to stay the f~~~ away from them. Hatred of women is found in almost all religions, cultures and philosophies before the 20th century.
Wake up!! It’s not just about superior and inferior… it’s also about good and evil. If you’re not a misogynist you’re a feminist.
No.
That is feminist thinking, “If you are not a feminist, you are a misogynist” you are saying and thinking the same thing as the feminist.There is no hatred of women, just warning of women evils and giving less reward for less value exchanged. Men are given less reward for less value too, why women should be given more reward for less value? Only the feminist want you to think it is misogynist to give less reward to women when they provide less value. Misogynist punish women for unjustified reason. Nothing is Misogynist to give less reward for less value.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
And Diamond, I think you’re laying it on a bit thick…… Hating women to the point of obsession is tantamount to adoring them. You’re giving them too much credit and they really ain’t worth half of it….. but then I ain’t ever been married. I’m the MGTOW who came here the easy way.
Yes, that’s what is making me wary of this site increasingly as of late. It is just ENDLESS hate. Yes I get it, I hated women for a while too, but what you hate still holds power over you. When we have people essentially saying ‘women are less evolved, they are closer to apes than we are, no wonder the bitches are so bitches!’ that’s not a productive thought pattern to entertain.
@gnostic a westernized Indian guy like you should take citizenship of the west. Please get out of your country now.
You say women enter into a contract and that women get a better part of the “deal” like a typical product of feminist society who thinks women are supposed to have a choice. Wake up!!
Women do not enter into any contract! They are either ABDUCTED or given off by their fathers. Are women getting the better deal in ISIS. You’re being totally ridiculous. Even sheep don’t work for civilization or protect men. So they are getting the better end of the “deal” LMAO xD
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As for misogyny, you’re making it seem like men just observed women and took down notes. TOTALLY WRONG. There has always been a dislike for women. How can a person not dislike them? After all they are the worst of creatures.
The father of Latin Christianity said this:
“You are the devil’s gateway; you are she who first violated the forbidden tree and broke the law of God. It was you who coaxed your way around him whom the devil had not the force to attack. With what ease you shattered that image of God: Man! Because of the death you merited, even the Son of God had to die… Woman, you are the gate to hell.”Clement of Alexandria:
“Every woman should be filled with shame by the thought that she is a woman. . . . the consciousness of their own nature must evoke feelings of shame”Buddha’s story:
When he sees the “decaying and revolting” faces of the still-sleeping women the next morning, he turns his back on his palace forever.Buddha:
“[Women] Your body is a swamp of garbage, an infectious heap of impurities. How can anybody take pleasure in such wandering latrines?”Ancient Greek story:
Pandora the first woman was given as a curse. When Pandora’s box was opened it released into the world — misery, greed, corruption, lies etc.Ancient Greek quote:
For from her is the race of women and female kind: of her is the deadly race and tribe of women who live amongst mortal men to their great trouble, no helpmeets in hateful poverty, but only in wealth. And as in thatched hives bees feed the drones whose nature is to do mischief – by day and throughout the day until the sun goes down the bees are busy and lay the white combs, while the drones stay at home in the covered skeps and reap the toil of others into their own bellies “.
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.If you can’t see the dislike expressed in these few examples then you’re completely intellectually dishonest.
The fact that you have a problem with misogyny also clearly shows that you are a product of feminist society. Only feminists advise against misogyny. Please leave your country. You are nothing but poison.
How dare you say we should not dislike women even though you know full well what they are like? Feminazis who wants to suppress misogyny and so do trained dogs like you.
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
It’s alright to say that you hate terrorists or that you hate the feminazi system of oppression. It’s okay to say that you hate facebook or hate religious extremists. It’s okay for women to say they hate misogynists.
But if somebody says they hate women?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON’T YOU EVER SAY THAT!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!!!!!!! PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT!!!!!!
Pfffft. As I have already shown, women have always been disliked, and all men should be misogynists. I am a proud misogynist and if any product of feminist society has a problem with that….. he can kiss my ass!!
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
Like I say, hating shows weakness and fear.
Your choice, but we only hate that which we feel oppressed by, and I understand that many men are literally oppressed by women, but I guess I’m lucky that I don’t have any women on my b~~~~ for alimony. In fact I now live in a country where the women wear black and keep away from men…… and it suits me because for me, women especially those around my age, are seriously deranged or pathetically banal.
I would say hating something shows a lack of self control.
It makes you hardly different from a woman riding the rapids of her hormones. Emotions are something we as men should be able to master for our own mental comfort, and hating…..well, a man in hate isn’t a man going his own way, he is man being still controlled by women.
Like I say, hating shows weakness and fear.
YES. EXACTLY!
Women have always been known to be extremely dangerous and harmful. That’s why men have always been misogynists and should be misogynists. Women are naturally such that you have to fear them.
I would say hating something shows a lack of self control.
I hate ISIS. Does it mean I lack self control? hahaha XD
You only have a problem with hating WOMEN…. just like any person born and bred in feminazi society. Wake up!!
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
Like I say, hating shows weakness and fear.
YES. EXACTLY!
Women have always been known to be extremely dangerous and harmful. That’s why men have always been misogynists and should be misogynists. Women are naturally such that you have to fear them.
I would say hating something shows a lack of self control.
I hate ISIS. Does it mean I lack self control? hahaha XD
You only have a problem with hating WOMEN…. just like any person born and bred in feminazi society. Wake up!!
Hate ISIS? The bogeymen created by the UK, US and Israeli secret services?
Yeah, you probably fear the bogeymen just like the elite want you to.
Personally I don’t fear anyone or anything except my own ability to f~~~ up. And the best way to f~~~ up is by being controlled by your emotions.
I dunno…. all this talk of hate and fear just sounds like a male version of feminism…..
There’s a better way for a man to be. Ignore women…hating them is a waste of brain cells.
Hate ISIS? The bogeymen created by the UK, US and Israeli secret services?
LOL OK you’re grasping for straws now.
My point has been made. If not, I can give you several other examples of how it’s okay to hate on things/people but not on women.
In fact, there was recently a thread on MGTOW forums which started with “I hate” but nobody paid any attention to that word. You just can’t hate WOMEN because this forum is full of men born and bred in feminazi society.
the best way to f~~~ up is by being controlled by your emotions.
Women will make you much more emotional and their influence will stop you from thinking rationally.
this talk of hate and fear just sounds like a male version of feminism…..
There’s a better way for a man to be. Ignore women…hating them is a waste of brain cells.
This is just how it has ALWAYS BEEN. It doesn’t matter what it sounds like to you.
Ignore women…hating them is a waste of brain cells.
Yes of course we should completely ignore them. If by “hating” here you mean raging in an emotional fit of anger, then yes I agree with you.
Most misogynists don’t ever think about women unless it means sex. (Or food lol)
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
@gnostic a westernized Indian guy like you should take citizenship of the west.
Please get out of your country now.
No I am not an Indian. You are projecting.
And no, I will not be going down that route, I had too many experience with feminist and SJW that when they cannot refute what you say, they make it about you so they do not need to address what you say. Don’t be like the feminist..
You say women enter into a contract and that women get a better part of the “deal” like a typical product of feminist society who thinks women are supposed to have a choice. Wake up!!
Women do not enter into any contract! They are either ABDUCTED or given off by their fathers. Are women getting the better deal in ISIS. You’re being totally ridiculous. Even sheep don’t work for civilization or protect men. So they are getting the better end of the “deal” LMAO xD
.Women, just like the men enter an contract with civilization to behave in a certain way in return of the benefits of civilization. Women or men can escape to the woods so they need not behave like what the civilization requires. If women don’t have a choice, then men neither have a choice.
All you are saying is how bad it is for a women, not one word about how bad it is for the men. You are avoiding comparison of the two so you can focus on how bad the women get it then.
You are avoiding what I said earlier that women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal
And you are ignoring when women are abducted, men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
You are ignoring that in olden days, men often don’t have a choice on who to marry too as their wives are selected by their families.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
Is the sheep benefits really comparable to the women? Following that logic not only a men have to work and abuse like horse is a better deal? And the horse have to fight their master (elite minority) war, The horse have to take care of the sheep.
The horse work is more dangerous when compare to the sheep, and the sheep have no work that is hazardous to its health. The horse is punish, usually financially if it stop behaving like a horse just like the sheep is punish when it stop behaving like a sheep.Only a feminist with the bogeymen patriarchy thinks the horse have a better deal then the sheep.
As for misogyny, you’re making it seem like men just observed women and took down notes. TOTALLY WRONG. There has always been a dislike for women. How can a person not dislike them? After
all they are the worst of creatures.
The father of Latin Christianity said this:
“You are the devil’s gateway; you are she who first violated the forbidden tree and broke the law of God. It was you who coaxed your way around him whom the devil had not the force toattack. With what ease you shattered that image of God: Man! Because of the death you merited, even the Son of God had to die… Woman, you are the gate to hell.”
Clement of Alexandria:
“Every woman should be filled with shame by the thought that she is a woman. . . . the consciousness of their own nature must evoke feelings of shame”Buddha’s story:
When he sees the “decaying and revolting” faces of the still-sleeping women the next morning, he turns his back on his palace forever.Buddha:
“[Women] Your body is a swamp of garbage, an infectious heap of impurities. How can anybody take pleasure in such wandering latrines?”Ancient Greek story:
Pandora the first woman was given as a curse. When Pandora’s box was opened it released into the world — misery, greed, corruption, lies etc.Ancient Greek quote:
For from her is the race of women and female kind: of her is the deadly race and tribe of women who live amongst mortal men to their great trouble, no helpmeets in hateful poverty,but only in wealth. And as in thatched hives bees feed the drones whose nature is to do mischief – by day and throughout the day until the sun goes down the bees are busy and lay the white
combs, while the drones stay at home in the covered skeps and reap the toil of others into their own bellies “
What are we doing now? We are observing women and took down notes.
Feminist is not something new
Feminism Responsible For The Fall Of RomeMen of olden times did what we are doing now, and did a better job at it since there are no indoctrination brainwashing education and actually think based on their observation instead of what “education” tells them.
Most of these “notes” show the observation of the weakness of women and how to avoid their weakness affecting men. And how they produce less value then a man.
And men are not free from hatred to the men too.
“What though the spicy breezes
Blow soft o’er Ceylon’s isle;
Though every prospect pleases,
And only man is vile:
In vain with lavish kindness
The gifts of God are strown; The heathen in his blindness Bows down to wood and stone.”
Bishop Reginald Heber’s hymn “From Greenland’s Icy Mountains”
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“Miserable man! Oh! most contemptible and worthy of all scorn; with slouched hat and guilty eye, skulking from his God; prowling among the shipping like a vile burglar hastening to cross the seas.”
Herman Melville
And what about the countless literature that praise the women? You ignore that too?
You keep harping on and on and on and on and on and on and on how olden civilization hates women, but nothing about the hate of men. And nothing about the love and sacrifice to women.
Just like a feminist.When in fact, with the exception of a small extremist, olden civilization hate men and women that does not contribute as well to civilization, or to their part of civilization.
Only a small number extremist men and WOMEN that hate women.
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2015/02/18/mom-restrained-daughter-during-rape-alberto-hernandez
http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/mother-let-gang-men-rape-3160815To most men, women are their mothers, wife, sister, daughter before the rise of the feminist supremacy.
Women are their partner making trying to make life better and they compensate them based on how much they contribute. Just like the men will compensate another man based on what value he provide..
If you can’t see the dislike expressed in these few examples then you’re completely intellectually dishonest.
The fact that you have a problem with misogyny also clearly shows that you are a product of feminist society. Only feminists advise against misogyny. Please leave your country. You are nothing but poison.
How dare you say we should not dislike women even though you know full well what they are like? Feminazis who wants to suppress misogyny and so do trained dogs like you.
Intellectually dishonest? Are you describing yourself when you ignore all suffering on men and harp on the women only.
I have a problem when perfectly fine actions like giving less reward for less value is describe as a misogyny.
I have a problem when perfectly fine action to protect oneself from women is describe as misogyny.
I have a problem that not giving more reward for women who produce less value is describe as misogyny.
Only a feminist will try to make perfectly valid action a misogyny.
The poison is you. Insulating misogyny when there is none. Just like feminist who want to make everything misogyny so they can shame men from joining MGTOW or protecting themselves.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
It’s alright to say that you hate terrorists or that you hate the feminazi system of oppression. It’s okay to say that you hate facebook or hate religious extremists. It’s okay for women to say they hate misogynists.
But if somebody says they hate women?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON’T YOU EVER SAY THAT!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!!!!!!! PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT!!!!!!
Pfffft. As I have already shown, women have always been disliked, and all men should be misogynists. I am a proud misogynist and if any product of feminist society has a problem with that….. he can kiss my ass!!
Hey, know what, it is not alright for women to hate men. Have you been blind to all the backlash of men and women against feminist that say they hate men?
Similarly we have no problem saying we hate misandry. You are playing word games here swapping men with misogynist and women with misandry. As if you already equate men with misogynist.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Hey, know what, it is not alright for women to hate men. Have you been blind to all the backlash of men and women against feminist that say they hate men?
Similarly we have no problem saying we hate misandry. You are playing word games here swapping men with misogynist and women with misandry. As if you already equate men with misogynist.
WRONG!!
It’s more acceptable for women to say hateful things about men like “all men are pigs” “all men are rapists” “reduce the percentage of males” and “Im so done with men” or even “I hate men”……….. Than it is for a man to say “all women are bitches” “all women are whores” and “I’m done with women” or even “I hate women”. God forbid we should ever say “reduce the percentage of women”
If a woman says that she dislikes men, she WILL NOT be ostracized from society. But what if a man says he dislikes women? Yup. It is actually very well known fact that misandry is acceptable in our society to a great degree while even the slightest misogyny is not tolerated. Toxic masculinity is almost a dictionary word now.
The mainstream media will allow “I hate men” articles such as
http://www.salon.com/2015/01/01/im_trying_not_to_hate_men/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/nov/02/whyihatemen
http://www.fuse.tv/videos/2016/06/zara-larsson-feminism-fuse-first-interview
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/09/suzanne-moore-why-i-was-wrong-about-menYOU ARE BIG LIAR!!!! Look at this feminist saying she hates men on a big (possibly the biggest) feminist website — http://feministing.com/2011/03/24/im-a-woman-who-hates-men/ — and look at all the sympathy she gets from the women. But I can’t even say I hate women on this website without f~~~s like you jumping at me!!
Apart from men, we are allowed to hate on most things we want. Stop being a feminazi. You know very well that women are the worst creatures and misogyny is totally warranted.
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
Women, just like the men enter an contract
That’s like saying cattle enter into a contract. hahaha…. You’re obviously very ignorant about the pre-feminist world and non-feminist world where marriages were done by forced arrangement or by abduction.
And yes, almost no religion/culture says that men are extremely evil or the root of all evil…. but almost all of them correct point that out about women! ahahaha… I think we’re done here
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
Hey, know what, it is not alright for women to hate men. Have you been blind to all the backlash of men and women against feminist that say they hate men?
Similarly we have no problem saying we hate misandry. You are playing word games here swapping men with misogynist and women with misandry. As if you already equate men with misogynist.
WRONG!!
It’s more acceptable for women to say hateful things about men like “all men are pigs” “all men are rapists” “reduce the percentage of males” and “Im so done with men” or even “I hate men”……….. Than it is for a man to say “all women are bitches” “all women are whores” and “I’m done with women” or even “I hate women”. God forbid we should ever say “reduce the percentage of women”
If a woman says that she dislikes men, she WILL NOT be ostracized from society. But what if a man says he dislikes women? Yup. It is actually very well known fact that misandry is acceptable in our society to a great degree while even the slightest misogyny is not tolerated. Toxic masculinity is almost a dictionary word now.
The mainstream media will allow “I hate men” articles such as
http://www.salon.com/2015/01/01/im_trying_not_to_hate_men/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/nov/02/whyihatemen
http://www.fuse.tv/videos/2016/06/zara-larsson-feminism-fuse-first-interview
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/09/suzanne-moore-why-i-was-wrong-about-menYOU ARE BIG LIAR!!!! Look at this feminist saying she hates men on a big (possibly the biggest) feminist website — http://feministing.com/2011/03/24/im-a-woman-who-hates-men/ — and look at all the sympathy she gets from the women. But I can’t even say I hate women on this website without f~~~s like you jumping at me!!
Apart from men, we are allowed to hate on most things we want. Stop being a feminazi. You know very well that women are the worst creatures and misogyny is totally warranted.
So now you cannot keep up the lie that women get worst deal and men are misogynist?
Unfortunately for you, I know the tricks of your kind. When your kind cannot defend the matter you yourself bring up, you will try shifting attention to another topic to avoid addressing your debunked points.
I won’t move to your next outburst till you address your previous point you yourself bring up that had been debunked.You keep harping on and on and on and on and on and on and on how olden civilization hates women, but nothing about the hate of men. Not a word about men suffering. And nothing about the love and sacrifice to women.
Just like a feminist with her boogeyman patriarchy that thinks civilization always give women a bad deal when it is otherwise.
See proof I state in previous post.You keep on avoiding the fact that men provide greater value hence reward better then women. You keep on avoiding the fact that women is treat as a man that provide less value, hence nothing is misogynist about it.
You keep on insisting we hate women when we are taking perfectly hate free action protecting ourselves from women. As if you want to smear MGTOW name.
I say again you are playing word games, we have no problem hating misandry.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
So now you cannot keep up the lie that women get worst deal and men are misogynist?
your kind.
your kind cannot.
you will try.
your next outburst.
You keep harping.
You keep on avoiding.
You keep on avoiding.
You keep on insisting.
You are playing.1.There are no deals with women, just like we don’t have deals with Oxen and pet dogs. If you think Oxen have it better than men, suit yourself. They don’t go to war to protect men…. hahaha!! XD
2. You can refer to post #303708 for examples of misogyny of various global cultures in the pre-feminist world.
3. And what hate of men? Read almost religious texts and philosophers from around the world for pete’s sake!! Women have always been the ones considered evil, not men. I already gave you ample examples for the same.
4. If you think not being allowed to leave the house unnecessarily, not being allowed to vote, own property, having your head uncovered, go to school etc. is women “having it better”…….. if you think women not being allowed to choose their partners, women being subordinated to husbands, wife-beating being encouraged, marital rape being encouraged, women being told to be in silence, taking on the man’s name to establish that she’s his property etc. is women “having it better” then you are devoid of logic.
5. You failed to answer if women have it better in ISIS and also couldn’t respond to why Saudi Arabia is a strict patriarchy despite being one of the richest countries in the world.
6. Your point that men have to work would be fine, if women didn’t get the leftovers to eat in case of shortages.
7. Your point on men going to war is wrong because ISIS is going to war too and do women have it there? LOL.
— rest of the post edited and removed, too dangerous to be saying this —Just don’t be an obstacle in the future.
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
So now you cannot keep up the lie that women get worst deal and men are misogynist?
your kind.
your kind cannot.
you will try.
your next outburst.
You keep harping.
You keep on avoiding.
You keep on avoiding.
You keep on insisting.
You are playing.1.There are no deals with women, just like we don’t have deals with Oxen and pet dogs. If you think Oxen have it better than men, suit yourself. They don’t go to war to protect men…. hahaha!! XD
2. You can refer to post #303708 for examples of misogyny of various global cultures in the pre-feminist world.
3. And what hate of men? Read almost religious texts and philosophers from around the world for pete’s sake!! Women have always been the ones considered evil, not men. I already gave you ample examples for the same.
4. If you think not being allowed to leave the house unnecessarily, not being allowed to vote, own property, having your head uncovered, go to school etc. is women “having it better”…….. if you think women not being allowed to choose their partners, women being subordinated to husbands, wife-beating being encouraged, marital rape being encouraged, women being told to be in silence, taking on the man’s name to establish that she’s his property etc. is women “having it better” then you are devoid of logic.
5. You failed to answer if women have it better in ISIS and also couldn’t respond to why Saudi Arabia is a strict patriarchy despite being one of the richest countries in the world.
6. Your point that men have to work would be fine, if women didn’t get the leftovers to eat in case of shortages.
7. Your point on men going to war is wrong because ISIS is going to war too and do women have it there? LOL.
— rest of the post edited and removed, too dangerous to be saying this —Just don’t be an obstacle in the future.
I already address these points and you are ignoring them again and play words games with it.
I am going to copy paste what I said earlier before you play word games with it..
1) Women, just like the men enter an contract with civilization to behave in a certain way in return of the benefits of civilization. Women or men can escape to the woods so they need not behave like what the civilization requires. If women don’t have a choice, then men neither have a choice.
All you are saying is how bad it is for a women, not one word about how bad it is for the men. You are avoiding comparison of the two so you can focus on how bad the women get it then.
You are avoiding what I said earlier that women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal
And you are ignoring when women are abducted, men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
You are ignoring that in olden days, men often don’t have a choice on who to marry too as their wives are selected by their families.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
Is the sheep benefits really comparable to the women? Following that logic not only a men have to work and abuse like horse is a better deal? And the horse have to fight their master (elite minority) war, The horse have to take care of the sheep.
The horse work is more dangerous when compare to the sheep, and the sheep have no work that is hazardous to its health. The horse is punish, usually financially if it stop behaving like a horse just like the sheep is punish when it stop behaving like a sheep..
2) You ignore literature that hate men and praise women. There are countless olden literature that praise women, particularly about their beauty and motherhood, give the moon to women, sacrifice to women. Praise of women outnumber hate of women many times. You ignore that to paint olden civilization hate women to justify your feminist views.
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3) Same as 2,
While there are real hate of women, some of the text you take out of context to suite you. I check where you got the quotes and I found Buddhism does not hate women, they advise avoidance of women and be compassionate over their inferiority.http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm
This [your] body is a swamp of garbage, an infectious heap of impurities. How can anybody take pleasure in such wandering latrines?” (quoted by Faure, 1994, p. 29).
You just replace [your] with [women]
In Mahayana, the “Great Vehicle”, flight from women is succeeded by compassion for them. The woman is to be freed from her physical body, and the Mahayana monk selflessly helps her to prepare for the necessary transformation, so that she can become a man in her next reincarnation. The feminine is thus still considered inferior and despicable, as that which must be sacrificed in order to be transformed into something purely masculine. In both founding philosophical schools of Mahayana Buddhism (Madhyamika and Yogachara), life, nature, the body and the soul are accordingly sacrificed to the absolute spirit (citta). The bearer of androcentric power in this phase is the “Savior” or Bodhisattva.
There is nothing about Buddhism hate women, they just acknowledge they are inferior and pity them.
Buddhism does not only see body of women as repulsive like Shakyamuni, they see men too.
Buddha asked Mo Dengjia woman, “Do you love Ananda what?” Mo Dengjia woman replied, “I love Ananda bright eyes, I love Ananda handsome nose, I love Ananda charming ears, I love Ananda sweet voice, I love Ananda elegant pace, I love all of Ananda. ”
Buddha asked, “Ananda have tears in his eyes eyes, phlegm in his nose, dirty saliva in his mouth, earwax in his ears, s~~~ and urine inside the body. In marriage will perform unclean sex, have children and suffer sickness and death and other suffering, this point of view, what Ananda body worthy of love? ”
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4) Again you harp on and on and on and on about women, nothing about men suffering and sacrifice.
Just like a feminist with the bogeymen patriarchy thinks the men have a better deal then the women.
Keep on ignoring the comparison of men suffering, just like a typical feminist that avoid all the points about men suffering to keep the lie that women is worst then men..
5) I already answered, you just don’t want to acknowledge my point. Here is the copy paste.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
And you are moving the goalpost here, instead of talking about Saudi Arabia food, now you are talking about the boogeymen patriarchy.
There is a testimony of another Saudi Arabia brother here and he say many things that indicate Saudi Arabia is a feminist country.One of it is that there are women only shopping mall.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/07/09/saudi-arabia-open-women-mobile-phone-shopping-center/
http://www.metropolitiques.eu/The-Ladies-Kingdom-and-Its-Many.html.
6) I already answered, you just don’t want to acknowledge my point. Here is the copy paste
The so call “Patriarchal systems” are a product of food insecurity before the civilization rise to prosperity, and what value women can bring to the table that keep that tradition.
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7) I fail to see what point you are making. The majority of men are suffering by going to war for the benefit of a minority of elites, and women don’t have to suffer that. What Isis have to do with that?
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Bonus. You have the thinking of a feminist.
a) You say If you’re not a misogynist you’re a feminist. Feminist always say if you are not a feminist you are a misogynist.b) You keep harping on what the women suffer, but not a word about the suffering and sacrifice of men. Like a feminist with her boogeyman patriarchy that thinks civilization always give women a bad deal when it is otherwise.
c) Despite what me and other poster say about not hating, you keep insisting we should hate women. A feminist would love to paint MGTOW as a hate movement to shame men from identifying with it. You just want to give ammunition to the feminist.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
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