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I already address these points and you are ignoring them again and play words games with it.
I am going to copy paste what I said earlier before you play word games with it..
1.Women, just like the men enter an contract with civilization to behave in a certain way in return of the benefits of civilization. Women or men can escape to the woods so they need not behave like what the civilization requires. If women don’t have a choice, then men neither have a choice.
All you are saying is how bad it is for a women, not one word about how bad it is for the men. You are avoiding comparison of the two so you can focus on how bad the women get it then.
You are avoiding what I said earlier that women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal
And you are ignoring when women are abducted, men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
You are ignoring that in olden days, men often don’t have a choice on who to marry too as their wives are selected by their families.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
Is the sheep benefits really comparable to the women? Following that logic not only a men have to work and abuse like horse is a better deal? And the horse have to fight their master (elite minority) war, The horse have to take care of the sheep.
The horse work is more dangerous when compare to the sheep, and the sheep have no work that is hazardous to its health. The horse is punish, usually financially if it stop behaving like a horse just like the sheep is punish when it stop behaving like a sheep..
2. You ignore literature that hate men and praise women. There are countless olden literature that praise women, particularly about their beauty and motherhood, give the moon to women, sacrifice to women. Praise of women outnumber hate of women many times. You ignore that to paint olden civilization hate women to justify your feminist views.
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3. Same as 2,
While there are real hate of women, some of the text you take out of context to suite you. I check where you got the quotes and I found Buddhism does not hate women, they advise avoidance of women and be compassionate over their inferiority.http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm
This [your] body is a swamp of garbage, an infectious heap of impurities. How can anybody take pleasure in such wandering latrines?” (quoted by Faure, 1994, p. 29).
You just replace [your] with [women]
In Mahayana, the “Great Vehicle”, flight from women is succeeded by compassion for them. The woman is to be freed from her physical body, and the Mahayana monk selflessly helps her to prepare for the necessary transformation, so that she can become a man in her next reincarnation. The feminine is thus still considered inferior and despicable…. There is nothing about Buddhism hate women, they just acknowledge they are inferior and pity them.
Buddhism does not only see body of women as repulsive like Shakyamuni, they see men too.
Buddha asked Mo Dengjia woman, “Do you love Ananda what?” Mo Dengjia woman replied, “I love Ananda bright eyes, I love Ananda handsome nose, I love Ananda charming ears, I love Ananda sweet voice, I love Ananda elegant pace, I love all of Ananda. ”
Buddha asked, “Ananda have tears in his eyes eyes, phlegm in his nose, dirty saliva in his mouth, earwax in his ears, s~~~ and urine inside the body. In marriage will perform unclean sex, have children and suffer sickness and death and other suffering, this point of view, what Ananda body worthy of love? ”
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4. Again you harp on and on and on and on about women, nothing about men suffering and sacrifice.
Just like a feminist with the bogeymen patriarchy thinks the men have a better deal then the women.
Keep on ignoring the comparison of men suffering, just like a typical feminist that avoid all the points about men suffering to keep the lie that women is worst then men..
5. I already answered, you just don’t want to acknowledge my point. Here is the copy paste.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
And you are moving the goalpost here, instead of talking about Saudi Arabia food, now you are talking about the boogeymen patriarchy.
There is a testimony of another Saudi Arabia brother here and he say many things that indicate Saudi Arabia is a feminist country.One of it is that there are women only shopping mall.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/07/09/saudi-arabia-open-women-mobile-phone-shopping-center/
http://www.metropolitiques.eu/The-Ladies-Kingdom-and-Its-Many.html.
6. Copy paste again.
The so call “Patriarchal systems” are a product of food insecurity before the civilization rise to prosperity, and what value women can bring to the table that keep that tradition.
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7. I fail to see what point you are making. The majority of men are suffering by going to war for the benefit of a minority of elites, and women don’t have to suffer that. What Isis have to do with that?
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You have the thinking of a feminist…. You say If you’re not a misogynist you’re a feminist. Feminist always say if you are not a feminist you are a misogynist.
b) You keep harping on what the women suffer, but not a word about the suffering and suffering of men. Like a feminist with her boogeyman patriarchy that thinks civilization always give women a bad deal when it is otherwise.
c) Despite what me and other poster say about not hating, you keep insisting we should hate women. A feminist would love to paint MGTOW as a hate movement to shame men from identifying with it. You just want to give ammunition to the feminist.
– Already told you marriages are either by abduction or arrangement of fathers. Women have NO CHOICE. Child marriages have also been common. There is no contract with sheep, right? There is no “deal”. It is all forced.
– Save who? And which particular society’s norms are these? (you need to specify otherwise it sounds like a general statement) Abduction is not done alone, but by a gang of men. You can see some kidnappings in different countries below
– Not by “families”, by fathers. I agree with you but it’s still the men in control.
– Muslims have the same rules for women that we had in the pre-feminist world. In fact, many people controlled women even more than Muslims. Chinese for example used to break the feet of women at puberty, a custom called foot binding.
– Yes I didn’t include mothers. I also agree that women should be very highly respected as mothers. But except as mothers, women have always been called evil. Again I am talking about MOST RELIGIONS not all religions. Sure there are some exceptions…..
– These are two contradictory statements. The word despicable means deserving hatred
– I already said men’s suffering and sacrifice can be seen in ISIS but that doesn’t mean women are getting it better. So don’t falsely accuse me of not talking about men’s suffering.
– Just because it doesn’t exist in the west in 2016 doesn’t mean it never did.
– Yes Saudi Arabia is slowly succumbing to feminist pressure from the west. Soon women are going to be allowed to vote. Nowadays many families even ask women if they would like to marry the man. But many things are still in place such as women not being allowed to leave the house without a man’s permission and wife beating being sanctioned.
– Which is wrong because Saudi was still a very rich country before it started to feminist pressure. And also there have been several food-secure civilizations which were strict patriarchies. Saudi is succumbing to feminist pressure due to WESTERN HEGEMONY
– So men in ISIS are going to war, but the women are not. Does that mean women have it better in ISIS? Come on.
– Yes feminists are right about that. You saw Buddhists say themselves that female nature is despicable.
– Yes absolutely, all men should be misogynists because that’s what we have always been. That’s what all cultures have taught us. I don’t give a s~~~ if women get ammunition.
A woman is supposed to be seen and not heard
"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle."
I already address these points and you are ignoring them again and play words games with it.
I am going to copy paste what I said earlier before you play word games with it..
1.Women, just like the men enter an contract with civilization to behave in a certain way in return of the benefits of civilization. Women or men can escape to the woods so they need not behave like what the civilization requires. If women don’t have a choice, then men neither have a choice.
All you are saying is how bad it is for a women, not one word about how bad it is for the men. You are avoiding comparison of the two so you can focus on how bad the women get it then.
You are avoiding what I said earlier that women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal
And you are ignoring when women are abducted, men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
You are ignoring that in olden days, men often don’t have a choice on who to marry too as their wives are selected by their families.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
Is the sheep benefits really comparable to the women? Following that logic not only a men have to work and abuse like horse is a better deal? And the horse have to fight their master (elite minority) war, The horse have to take care of the sheep.
The horse work is more dangerous when compare to the sheep, and the sheep have no work that is hazardous to its health. The horse is punish, usually financially if it stop behaving like a horse just like the sheep is punish when it stop behaving like a sheep..
2. You ignore literature that hate men and praise women. There are countless olden literature that praise women, particularly about their beauty and motherhood, give the moon to women, sacrifice to women. Praise of women outnumber hate of women many times. You ignore that to paint olden civilization hate women to justify your feminist views.
.
3. Same as 2,
While there are real hate of women, some of the text you take out of context to suite you. I check where you got the quotes and I found Buddhism does not hate women, they advise avoidance of women and be compassionate over their inferiority.http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm
This [your] body is a swamp of garbage, an infectious heap of impurities. How can anybody take pleasure in such wandering latrines?” (quoted by Faure, 1994, p. 29).
You just replace [your] with [women]
In Mahayana, the “Great Vehicle”, flight from women is succeeded by compassion for them. The woman is to be freed from her physical body, and the Mahayana monk selflessly helps her to prepare for the necessary transformation, so that she can become a man in her next reincarnation. The feminine is thus still considered inferior and despicable…. There is nothing about Buddhism hate women, they just acknowledge they are inferior and pity them.
Buddhism does not only see body of women as repulsive like Shakyamuni, they see men too.
Buddha asked Mo Dengjia woman, “Do you love Ananda what?” Mo Dengjia woman replied, “I love Ananda bright eyes, I love Ananda handsome nose, I love Ananda charming ears, I love Ananda sweet voice, I love Ananda elegant pace, I love all of Ananda. ”
Buddha asked, “Ananda have tears in his eyes eyes, phlegm in his nose, dirty saliva in his mouth, earwax in his ears, s~~~ and urine inside the body. In marriage will perform unclean sex, have children and suffer sickness and death and other suffering, this point of view, what Ananda body worthy of love? ”
.
4. Again you harp on and on and on and on about women, nothing about men suffering and sacrifice.
Just like a feminist with the bogeymen patriarchy thinks the men have a better deal then the women.
Keep on ignoring the comparison of men suffering, just like a typical feminist that avoid all the points about men suffering to keep the lie that women is worst then men..
5. I already answered, you just don’t want to acknowledge my point. Here is the copy paste.
You are equating an Muslim extremist group as an indication of the majority of men behavior. Who is the one being ridiculous here?
And you are moving the goalpost here, instead of talking about Saudi Arabia food, now you are talking about the boogeymen patriarchy.
There is a testimony of another Saudi Arabia brother here and he say many things that indicate Saudi Arabia is a feminist country.One of it is that there are women only shopping mall.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/07/09/saudi-arabia-open-women-mobile-phone-shopping-center/
http://www.metropolitiques.eu/The-Ladies-Kingdom-and-Its-Many.html.
6. Copy paste again.
The so call “Patriarchal systems” are a product of food insecurity before the civilization rise to prosperity, and what value women can bring to the table that keep that tradition.
.
7. I fail to see what point you are making. The majority of men are suffering by going to war for the benefit of a minority of elites, and women don’t have to suffer that. What Isis have to do with that?
.
You have the thinking of a feminist…. You say If you’re not a misogynist you’re a feminist. Feminist always say if you are not a feminist you are a misogynist.
b) You keep harping on what the women suffer, but not a word about the suffering and suffering of men. Like a feminist with her boogeyman patriarchy that thinks civilization always give women a bad deal when it is otherwise.
c) Despite what me and other poster say about not hating, you keep insisting we should hate women. A feminist would love to paint MGTOW as a hate movement to shame men from identifying with it. You just want to give ammunition to the feminist.
– Already told you marriages are either by abduction or arrangement of fathers. Women have NO CHOICE. Child marriages have also been common. There is no contract with sheep, right? There is no “deal”. It is all forced.
– Save who? And which particular society’s norms are these? (you need to specify otherwise it sounds like a general statement) Abduction is not done alone, but by a gang of men. You can see some kidnappings in different countries below
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– Not by “families”, by fathers. I agree with you but it’s still the men in control.
– Muslims have the same rules for women that we had in the pre-feminist world. In fact, many people controlled women even more than Muslims. Chinese for example used to break the feet of women at puberty, a custom called foot binding.
– Yes I didn’t include mothers. I also agree that women should be very highly respected as mothers. But except as mothers, women have always been called evil. Again I am talking about MOST RELIGIONS not all religions. Sure there are some exceptions…..
– These are two contradictory statements. The word despicable means deserving hatred
– I already said men’s suffering and sacrifice can be seen in ISIS but that doesn’t mean women are getting it better. So don’t falsely accuse me of not talking about men’s suffering.
– Just because it doesn’t exist in the west in 2016 doesn’t mean it never did.
– Yes Saudi Arabia is slowly succumbing to feminist pressure from the west. Soon women are going to be allowed to vote. Nowadays many families even ask women if they would like to marry the man. But many things are still in place such as women not being allowed to leave the house without a man’s permission and wife beating being sanctioned.
– Which is wrong because Saudi was still a very rich country before it started to feminist pressure. And also there have been several food-secure civilizations which were strict patriarchies. Saudi is succumbing to feminist pressure due to WESTERN HEGEMONY
– So men in ISIS are going to war, but the women are not. Does that mean women have it better in ISIS? Come on.
– Yes feminists are right about that. You saw Buddhists say themselves that female nature is despicable.
– Yes absolutely, all men should be misogynists because that’s what we have always been. That’s what all cultures have taught us. I don’t give a s~~~ if women get ammunition.
A woman is supposed to be seen and not heard
Again you are ignoring all the suffering and sacrifice of men that I already stated in my previous post and harp only on the women to justify women get the worst deal.
You keep ignoring all I said about men have to do worst job, more dangerous job, fight in war for the minority elites, not educated too, lower status men not allowed in public places either, men are married away by their father too in such civilization. Being kill as opposed to women being abducted.
You said men’s suffering and sacrifice can be seen in ISIS? Bulls~~~!
You have the thinking of a feminist.
a) You say If you’re not a misogynist you’re a feminist. Feminist always say if you are not a feminist you are a misogynist.b) You keep harping on what the women suffer, but not a word about the suffering and sacrifice of men. Like a feminist with her boogeyman patriarchy that thinks civilization always give women a bad deal when it is otherwise.
c) Despite what me and other poster say about not hating, you keep insisting we should hate women. A feminist would love to paint MGTOW as a hate movement to shame men from identifying with it. You just want to give ammunition to the feminist.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Human DNA is only 1.3% different from chimps, except for the Y-DNA which is about 30% different due to rapid evolution.
Humans share 50% DNA with bananas, so even a small genetic change makes a huge difference.
Men are significantly more evolved than women (who are close to apes)… But why didn’t women evolve?
Getting back to the original topic of this thread,
The Y chromosome is tiny compared to all the others and mainly is concerned with testosterone production which is what causes sexual differentiation in the womb.
In fact since it is missing most of the alleles of the X chromosome men are much more likely to be color blind or hemophiliacs since they don’t have a 2nd X chromosomes to counteract these conditions.
All the other chromosomes and even half of the sex chromosomes which determine the vast majority of evolved characteristics are identical in both sexes. There may be many things wrong with women but genetics is not one of them.Well, I think most of us here are safe from coveting our neighbors ass.
Gee. Not sure about my neighbor’s ass.
I knew this was coming
I am a simple f~~~er. Glad too. Hey, you guys might want to stop purse slapping each other, someone is going to get hurt
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
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