She's forcing marriage and making back-up plans

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

surfdude12 wrote:

She is a sweet girl (loves to cook, is not materialistic at all, loves simple stuff, etc), but she has big issue – bulimia.

GET. THE. F~~~. OUT. NOW.

The binge/purge cycle of bulimia is a visible manifestation of far bigger problems. This cycle likely also shows itself with her sex life – meaning if she goes to Paris alone, the odds of her railing 6 guys in 4 days are high. It’s probable that she’s a manipulative control freak. Having the experience of dating 3 of them before, I speak with some authority.

“By the way, isn’t it true that even if you got married or had kids with someone like this, they’d STILL engage in manipulation tactics to get you to do stuff? I.E = marriage and kids won’t stop the tactics??”

Correct. Marriage cements this behavior in place because it’s already been successful for her.

Thanks, dude. I appreciate the feedback especially with your experience. Yes, she is pretty impulsive, but usually with other stuff (food, shopping, etc) but not sex, but LOLOL you guys are laughing “oh yeah? just wait until she goes to Paris”, yeah I’m in denial.

[Anonymous 5]

So, she’s been living with you for free? While she still have her apartment?

She threatened you, that if you don’t marry her, she’ll leave you, and you’re still with that bitch, why?

She’s living in YOUR house, but she makes the rules?

Dude, take the f~~~ing skirt off, and be a MAN.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[JVBParticipant]

Ask yourself an honest question. What do I want ?. Then follow through and don’t buckle.

I’m also expecting the “I’m pregnant ” is coming soon bro. Be very careful.

Peace is > piece.

[Anonymous 0]

Sounds like she’s stalling for time. What are the laws in your area regarding co-habitation/spousal support?
Whatever she is telling you is a lie. She is already planning her exit and she will not be nice about it.

[Anonymous 43]

you lost me at she moved in and still maintains her own place.

She moved in = she owns your ass, good luck getting rid of her.

back up plan = cut her loose now.

Send her to f~~~ing France, you move out or change locks. Tell her while she is over there to pick up her s~~~ at a bus station locker and you are mailing her the key.

what the f is she doing paying rent since July of 16?

looks like a vortex of s~~~ to me pal. You do what you want, If it was me, I’m out.

p~~~ing money away on renting an empty place, living off you, join the navy, run off to france…how scatterbrained is this chick?

She is going to France to f~~~. She will f~~~ the guy sitting next to her on the plane, chatting him up for 8 hours, and get invited out for drinks, then Oh, I have an apartment right here in Paris, down the street from the Arch de Triumph, which looks like a giant set of meat curtains look at all the lights, have some more wine

Dude the national symbols for France are the Eiffel tower, giant phallus, the Fleur de lis, looks like a big chubby throbbing dick, and the rooster…the coq I mean c~~~. France is French for F~~~. Wine bottles, looks like a hard on to me, Paris is latin for endless c~~~ carousel. The French women will f~~~ anything with a dick, and the men will f~~~ anything that bends over.

Cut this woman loose before you end up with a mystery disease from the old world, or a baby sometime around Halloween. Either one is scary.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

surfdude12 wrote:

QUESTION: Should I let her stay until she decides what she wants to do?

IMMEDIATELY SEE A LAWYER.

Document the f~~~ out of the separate residence she has been maintaining.

Then the first chance you get:

1. Change the locks on your home.
2. Pack up all her s~~~ from your home and put it in a storage unit somewhere.
3. Pay for one month’s rent on the storage unit in advance.
4. Mail a copy of the storage unit contract and key to her apartment certified return receipt.
5. Block her on your phone, facebook, whatever.
6. Instruct her to direct all further contact through your attorney.
7. Have a no-contact order drafted by your attorney ready. If there’s any chance she might try some false accusation bulls~~~, DROP IT ON HER IMMEDIATELY.

The best time for this was while she was in Paris. You do not want her to see it coming to make plans.

This isn’t harsh. It’s NECESSARY.

Do NOT delay.

[General RipperParticipant 101]

In her own head, she’s already left the building and checked out.

I can’t say anything else in addition to what’s already been said. There are men here with greater experience and wisdom than I, telling you, screaming, pleading with you, that if you touch the stove, you’re gonna get burned. If you can’t see that, you’ll garner no sympathy from me.

If you choose to stay with her, you deserve everything that unfolds.

Women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women. But I do deny them my essence.

[Anonymous 43]

Sidecar…laying down some serious napalm, I like it.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

surfdude12 wrote:

Thanks, dude.

Sure thing. Tell me some of your favorite surf spots, on a lighter note.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

surfdude12 wrote:

Hey guys, this is my first post, please I need some advice!!

I’m 39 y/o in a relationship with 30 y/o for 4 years. She moved into my house in July 2016 but kept her apartment. For the first 3 years I told her “I have no interest in marriage or kids”, then a year ago when she threatened to leave, I went blue-pill and said “I guess I’d be open to marriage”. Honestly I just said whatever it would take for her not to leave. Not very honest of me, as I was never really open to marriage.

I think she could tell I was not honest about being open to marriage, because in the past year she has prepared “back up” plans for herself in the event I don’t marry her:
(a) she kept her apartment , so that she can just move back in there if I don’t marry her
(b) she started applying for a job in Navy, without telling me
(c) she even reserved a flight to Paris this summer without me (she asked me months ago if I was interested in Paris and I said “not sure, seems dangerous over there” but never asked me again when she booked the flight)

Now we’re coming up on 4 years and she is demanding marriage, kids, going ring shopping , etc. She is a sweet girl (loves to cook, is not materialistic at all, loves simple stuff, etc), but she has big issue – bulimia. She was honest and told me about it 4 years ago when we started and I told her I was ok as long as she seeks professional help for it. In the past year, she hasn’t sought as much help and last week I came home early from work and found her doing it in the house. It was then that she admitted to (a)-(c) above, and that she had made those plans since she really didn’t think I was up for marriage. At that time I told her I really am not up for marriage or kids. She told me she needs time to decide what she wants to do (stay with me w/o marriage or take the job in Navy). She said she’ll wait until summer when she goes to Paris to decide. In the meantime, she’s still at my house.

QUESTION: Should I let her stay until she decides what she wants to do? SHould I kick her out? I was thinking about telling her “listen, clearly you’re unsure what you want to do, why don’t you go back to your apartment, think about it, and then maybe by the time you’re going to France you can have decided what you want? marriage or me?” or should I just kick her out and say bye bye? HELP!

First of all you know the answer. You do not want to settle down with her. Second she’s a complete mental case Bulimic. Third, she never gave up her place and has been making plans in case she can’t manipulate you into throwing your life away. RUN..FAR..FAST…NOW!!!

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

So many red flags here I don’t even know where to start.

Truly cringeworthy.

Kick her out asap!
Total no-brainer.

Why the f~~~ are we even discussing this?

Monk

[ThanasiParticipant 428]

JVB wrote:

Ask yourself an honest question. What do I want ?. Then follow through and don’t buckle.

I’m also expecting the “I’m pregnant ” is coming soon bro. Be very careful.

I feel for the OP; I really do. He reminds me of how I was in my last relationship. It did not end well.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Thanks guys, she moved out of the house today. I AM FREE!!!!!!!!!!

I told her last night that it wasn’t working – she wants marriage/kids and I don’t.

She tried to bargain with me, “If I do X, Y, and Z, will you marry me then?”
I was SERIOUSLY tempted to say “maybe” since she was offering to do a LOT of things I have been wanting, but as she was talking I remember all the stuff you guys told me:
(a) with time, there will be less “good” stuff and more “bad” stuff
(b) if I don’t marry her, she’ll KEEP looking for a dude who will marry her and thus will eventually dump me
(c) although she is a really sweet girl, its the GOVERNMENT and COURT SYSTEM that also enter the equation if there is a divorce, and I don’t trust them

Of course, as she kept crying, I could feel that internal blue-pill guilt build up inside but thanks to you guys I didn’t cave!! She didn’t get angry with me, she was super cool, she said after a lot of crying, “Ok I’ll leave tomorrow”, which honestly made it MUCH HARDER (i.e. if she was bitchy about it and threw a tantrum, would have been much easier to tell her GTFO).

Thanks guys!!!!

[Anonymous 3]

The best thing for you to do is walk away. You don’t have to be an asshole about it but stay true to your convictions. There is no future in relating with women in western society.

No Marriage, no cohabitation, no exceptions.

I wish you the best sir.

[Anonymous 3]

surfdude12 wrote:

Thanks guys, she moved out of the house today. I AM FREE!!!!!!!!!!

I told her last night that it wasn’t working – she wants marriage/kids and I don’t.

She tried to bargain with me, “If I do X, Y, and Z, will you marry me then?”
I was SERIOUSLY tempted to say “maybe” since she was offering to do a LOT of things I have been wanting, but as she was talking I remember all the stuff you guys told me:
(a) with time, there will be less “good” stuff and more “bad” stuff
(b) if I don’t marry her, she’ll KEEP looking for a dude who will marry her and thus will eventually dump me
(c) although she is a really sweet girl, its the GOVERNMENT and COURT SYSTEM that also enter the equation if there is a divorce, and I don’t trust them

Of course, as she kept crying, I could feel that internal blue-pill guilt build up inside but thanks to you guys I didn’t cave!! She didn’t get angry with me, she was super cool, she said after a lot of crying, “Ok I’ll leave tomorrow”, which honestly made it MUCH HARDER (i.e. if she was bitchy about it and threw a tantrum, would have been much easier to tell her GTFO).

Thanks guys!!!!

Sorry I didn’t read the entirety of the thread when I posted last. Congratulations on unc~~~ing your life. Make sure that you save all emails, texts, and records of conversations with her for a few years to make sure you cover yourself if a false allegation springs up in the future.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

surfdude12 wrote:

Thanks guys, she moved out of the house today. I AM FREE!!!!!!!!!!

I told her last night that it wasn’t working – she wants marriage/kids and I don’t.

She tried to bargain with me, “If I do X, Y, and Z, will you marry me then?”
I was SERIOUSLY tempted to say “maybe” since she was offering to do a LOT of things I have been wanting, but as she was talking I remember all the stuff you guys told me:
(a) with time, there will be less “good” stuff and more “bad” stuff
(b) if I don’t marry her, she’ll KEEP looking for a dude who will marry her and thus will eventually dump me
(c) although she is a really sweet girl, its the GOVERNMENT and COURT SYSTEM that also enter the equation if there is a divorce, and I don’t trust them

Of course, as she kept crying, I could feel that internal blue-pill guilt build up inside but thanks to you guys I didn’t cave!! She didn’t get angry with me, she was super cool, she said after a lot of crying, “Ok I’ll leave tomorrow”, which honestly made it MUCH HARDER (i.e. if she was bitchy about it and threw a tantrum, would have been much easier to tell her GTFO).

Thanks guys!!!!

You are welcome!

I’m glad everything went according to plan.

You got away easy.

Don’t ever get involved with women again!

If you marry and have kids you will regret the day you were born.

Monk

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Congratulations!

You will have a mixed bag of happy and sad days ahead, but stick to your desicion, it’s the right path, and you know it or you never would have found us in the first place.

What’s that smell, you ask? That’s what freedom smells like!

[AttonParticipant]

Common law you are effected by it.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 13]

I’m glad you’re free and wish you well.

Just be careful, she may be upset now and complying but once she’s had time to think she may get vindictive. They often do. It’s why you need to cover yourself.

Remember, one phone call is all it takes to destroy men now.

No evidence is required.

You and her don’t even have to be on the same premises.

She can order your destruction anytime, from anywhere by making a phone call.

She only has to make a phone call

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