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China has the technology, has used the technology, and has not shared the technology with the DPRK.
Partially because China knows that once NK gets reliable ICBMs, a lot of them will be pointed right back at China.
North Korea has been a useful tool for China, but that doesn’t mean China trusts them.
As far as I can tell, the only way to do that is to reset the money system, and eliminate a whole lot of people and corporations.
And that would resolve the North Korea situation how?
Anonymous3And that would resolve the North Korea situation how?
How about doing nothing?
There is an ideological confrontation here, between the Stalinist Marxism and the allegedly Capitalist world.
The “capitalist” system can perfectly survive and thrive ignoring NK. Yet the NK regime requires the threat against its existence to control its population in a impoverishing system.
Ignoring NK would result in that system surviving exclusively by its merits, not by external threats uniting the population.
That does not means disarming in face of the NK army, but rather stop worrying and responding to them. Even with nuclear power they are a feeble threat to anyone, besides South Korea.
Kim is like a little girl, he wants attention and will act up to get it.
And just like a little girl can actually scratch you, NK could attack and then war would be necessary.But like a little girl, NK would be crushed and it knows it.
There is nothing to gain confronting NK now.
That alone should tell us that the objective is something else.
The fact that the CIA director came out to say that there was no danger of nuclear war is a clue. Its the “deep state” trying to defuse the tension Trump has created in the Asian front. Because it diverts attention from the Russian front they are cultivating.
Politics is dirty business. The only thing you know for sure is that you are being lied to.
I really don’t think it’s gonna happen. The loss of life expected if that war kicks off is way too huge. Seoul at 9+ million, is well within strike range of the North. I don’t think any modern politician wants kick that war off on their shoulders.
Pyongyang will continue to do what they want unless they kick the war off. Which as provocative as they are… I don’t think they’re that stupid. Fat-boy Kim seems to be pretty happy where he is. He has no interest in his power being lost or taken away.
Anonymous3PS: not a support, but a guy said the exact same thing I said.
The loss of life expected if that war kicks off is way too huge. Seoul at 9+ million, is well within strike range of the North. I don’t think any modern politician wants kick that war off on their shoulders.
Let’s not forget though that Kimmy Boy isn’t actually a “politician” let alone a typical national leader type. He’s just a dim witted retarded fat f~~~ who only got the job because of who his father was.
There’s your wild card…
‘I dunno guys. . . .’
North Korea is not acknowledging other points of view.
How about doing nothing?
Been there. Done that. Bought the shirt.
Hasn’t worked.
There is an ideological confrontation here, between the Stalinist Marxism and the allegedly Capitalist world.
LOL. No.
It’s an ideological confrontation with a dynastic totalitarian military extortionist state.
Even with nuclear power they are a feeble threat to anyone, besides South Korea.
Until they gain the missile technology to project that power. And they will get it unless actively (i.e. militarily) prevented. Again, everything else has been tried with them to no effect.
The thing is, North Korea is not the real issue here. What matters is what the rest of the Pacific Asian countries will do once North Korea can project nuclear power. And what they do will not be pretty. North Korea is essentially the Gavrilo Princip of Asia. Permitting them nuclear projection by doing nothing will irrecoverably destabilize the region and possible result in another world war. Are you really willing to risk that over some mistaken ideological niceties?
There is an ideological confrontation here, between the Stalinist Marxism and the allegedly Capitalist world.
LOL. No.
It’s an ideological confrontation with a dynastic totalitarian military extortionist state.
Well, I would never say NO to a MGTOW or laugh at him for his ideas, because I take pleasure in lifting men up and making friends, not putting them down. I also find what Manfred says to be insightful and to come from a place of deep understanding and experience.
So, … it’s a confrontation between two races of people that are incompatible. I believe Marco Polo said the East and the West can never meet. One must first understand the asian race and it’s genotype, before talking about the the geopolitical implications of and for that race.
And that would resolve the North Korea situation how?
What do you think the “situation” is over there? Lets define the problem first, because maybe we are thinking of two different problems.
North Korea just stole Eighty million dollars from Bangledesh, used a chemical attack to kill someone, and tortured an American as a direct provocation to test and embarrass our new president – now the whole world is watching to see what Trump is made of – if he is all b~~~~ to the wall, or just a big mouth with no testicles to pull the trigger. If Trump doesn’t pound this guy, the US is going to get screwed royally by every nation on Earth, and be the laughing stock of the world, while they continue to f~~~ us over.
Our own country is a dynastic totalitarian military extortionist state. That’s why the Rosevelts, Kennedys, Clintons, and Bushes have been ruling for many decades.
What will come first;
war with NK
OR
american civil war version II.
OR
peace invasion of Venezuela.
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And is anyone watching what the sand nigs are up to.Sandals wrote:
Before I answer, I am very curious to know where you got the information for the following statement:
OldBill wrote:China has a successful space program too with human launch capabilities
Really? You’ve missed all the media reports over the last 20 years or so?
I am interested in normal, positive, lively discussion. I asked a simple question: where do you get your information about the Chinese Space program. You yourself must know your answer is inadequate.
The reason I am asking is because I know something about the Chinese space program, and I am trying to figure out if you are only completely misinformed, or just plain gullible.
If misinformed, I can deal with that and we can discuss asian issues, like North Korea’s actual relationship with China (not what is portrayed in media).
If you’re just gullible, then you’ll believe what you want, and further discussion is pointless.
It seems from your posts you know something about weapons systems, and I don’t, so I would always take a “learning” approach in a conversation with you on that (unless I discover you don’t know what you’re talking about there too). But here it seems you want to speak with authority about things you clearly don’t know about, and based on your non-answer answer, wouldn’t really be willing to listen.
What will come first;
war with NK
OR
american civil war version II.
OR
peace invasion of Venezuela.
.
.
.
And is anyone watching what the sand nigs are up to.Given that David Duke and Richard Spense are in charge of the White Nationalists, I can ASSURE you American civil war will NOT be happening, unless someone else heads up the movement. They have already stated they will be non-violent, and they are easy to contain by the globalists. These guys don’t understand anything. They chanted Blue Lives Matter before that very goon squad headed up by a blond bitch mowed them down. Total idiots. Are they going to break into the jail and free their friend who was arrested? Nope.
Venezuela means nothing. We can get coffee from Columbia. Follow the money.
War with North Korea must come, or the rest of the world will see the US as total pussies under Trump, and we will be royally f~~~ed up the ass by every nation out there. In what form, I don’t know, but Kim has played Trumps hand. I don’t know what Trump will do. Trump is hanging on by a thread, surrounded by traitors who want him dead, most dangerously probably deep state elements in the Secret Service.
And his White House is obviously bugged and must be demolished and rebuilt to fix it. Why he or anybody doesn’t see this I don’t know. It is so painfully obvious, it’s laughable.
So, … it’s a confrontation between two races of people that are incompatible.
> Races
Don’t be stupid. Or be stupid, but be stupid over at /pol/. Not here.
No. It’s not.
Despotic dynastic totalitarian military extortionist states aren’t any particular race.
You are over complicating things and bringing in irrelevancies.
Here are the plain facts of the situation:
1. North Korea desperately wants capable nuclear weapons. Their reason for that are irrelevant.
2. North Korea has a history of reckless, irresponsible military actions.
3. North Korea has broken every single diplomatic agreement to abandon their nuclear ambitions.
4. North Korea regularly and routinely makes threats against every country around it, including their closest ally: China. Like a mad dog, they bite the hand that feeds them. Why they do this is irrelevant.
5. The idea of a fully nuclear North Korea scares the ever loving s~~~ out of all their neighbors, including South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, Indonesia, and so on, because they know the North Korean leadership will use those weapons if tehy think it necessary, not to engage in war, but merely as an ill conceived show of force to save face and remain in power at home.
6. Those neighboring countries all have their own unannounced back burnered nuclear programs, including, despite the potential internal political backlash against it, Japan.
7. There is a f~~~load of bad blood and competing ambition among those Asian countries quite independent of North Korea.
8. Those countries going nuclear in response to North Korea will not end well. The world does not need that kind of instability, especially not there.This has f~~~ all to do with ideology or race or any such irrelevant bulls~~~, but everything to do with the fact that proven untrustworthy insane ambitious countries and nuclear weapons do not go together.
now the whole world is watching to see what Trump is made of – if he is all b~~~~ to the wall, or just a big mouth with no testicles to pull the trigger.
Thank you for the child’s analysis of the situation, all full of ego and bluster and no real understanding of anything on any level other than ego and bluster.
War with North Korea must come, or the rest of the world will see the US as total pussies under Trump, and we will be royally f~~~ed up the ass by every nation out there
Literally facepalming at that.
North Korea must be defanged, by war or any other method, not for any matter of America or Trump’s ego or appearances, but because the rest of the region will themselves escalate in response to North Korea. They will not arm up to “rape the U.S. or any such nonsense, but simply because they will know that the U.S. is now unwilling to maintain stability in the region.
Once escalated, however, they will inevitably and eventually go at it against each other. Look at all the s~~~ happening between them in the various China seas and Sea of Japan as they make a grabs for territory and exclusive economic zones. Do you really want to add nukes to that mix?
Got to hand it to NK. They are broke, backwards, isolated from the scientific community etc yet they still breed their own people smart enough to train & build and equip nukes.
Makes you wonder how??
I suppose the rest of the world asks the same question.
Makes you wonder how??
Nukes, at least primitive fission devices, really aren’t all that difficult to make, actually. They’re basically just a device for banging radioactive lumps together.
Working it all out the first time was tricky, but North Korea didn’t need to develop the theory behind them like the Manhattan Project did. They just had to duplicate the resulting solution.
Making such devices small enough and robust enough to be carried on a missile is much more difficult than building a nuke itself. And making a missile that can reliably and accurately carry it, too.
But with time they’ll get there unless prevented. Again the theory has already been worked out, which is the hardest part of the whole business.
Anonymous3Sidecar, I love you man!
And I agree with all that you said about North Korea.
However…
How is that YOUR problem?
Do you think Canada feels threatened by NK? Is Canada military preparing for a confrontation with NK? Are Canadians afraid of NK ICBM’s?
Let me ask you. Is North Korea a US problem or South Korean and Japanese problem?
Look at the stats about military spending:
– US 1,686 B$ (2.2% GDP)
– South Korea 36.8 B$ (2.7% GDP)
– Japan 46.1 B$ (1% GDP)
– North Korea 10 B$ (25% GDP)Does it appears like South Korea and Japan are addressing the danger at their doorstep? Or do you think a Mexican crazy dictatorship would be more a South Korean than a US problem?
Did not Trump win the elections saying that other countries where taking advantage of the US and not spending enough in their military? That it was time to think on America first?
You see, this NK issue is imperialistic thinking, and dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with empires (not a PC thing to say, but a realistic and historically correct thing to say). Hell, my small country had a 500 years long empire that only ended in 1975!
But empires have a tendency of overreaching their resources and ignoring when circumstances have changed. It happened to my country repeatedly, or do you think 1970’s was a good time to have a colonial empire? Nothing good came of it for us and to the former colonies.
When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging and start thinking on getting out of it.
I bet that your flat screen its a Samsung, not an American brand. Let South Korea raise taxes to pay for more defense, therefore losing competitive advantage with US products! Trump was right, the US has exported all its production and people are suffering without jobs. It all went to Asia.
Good or bad, he is trying to address the issues of American people, and he as all the imperialist status quo against him!
From the source I linked above:
Try the childishly simple device of not interfering with it, of not sending troops and ships and jets there. This far-away place can, and should be forgotten, as it had been forgotten for many, many years. If you really want to do something about North Korea, move your troops and your aircraft carriers elsewhere, say to Norfolk, Virginia; they will be more appreciated there. You will be praised for your wisdom by South Koreans and by Japanese, and by your base in the US.
The fake news media will surely say that you’ve got cold feet and ran away from little fat Kim. But they will say something nasty in any case. Even if you were to unleash a nuclear holocaust upon Korea, they will write: he did it because Mueller’s FBI agents searched Paul Manaforte’s home and discovered he is a Russian spy.
They did not pay attention to the great victory you won a day earlier, when you and your Secretary of State convinced the Russians and the Chinese to vote for a North Korea sanctions draft in the Security Council. It was one of those great diplomatic victories, but the Lugenpresse didn’t say a word about it.
You see, this is politics at its most ugly face. Forcing foreign wars to a president elected because he promised to take care of Americans first! Tying his hands when we wants to defuse conflicts so that resources can be better used at home.
Trump may be many things, good and bad, but what is been done to him is disgusting. Because what is been done is AGAINST the American people’s interests, AGAINST their democratic choice, and AGAINST world peace.
This has been a long rant already, and I forget that I dont have much investment in this society anyway.
Its downfall is inevitable, by way of stupid conflicts using the most despicable lies, only to support the interests of the corrupt and insane few.
I just wish that we dont get caught in the web of deceptions accompanying the fall, and that we see the truth as only red pill men can.
And if I am thinking wrong, please tell me. Because only truth matters.
Anonymous1Well, as I’ve said before. North Korea really boils down to the major players in Asia: China, Japan, and South Korea. It’s up to them what they will tolerate. If North Korea strikes somebody it will be Japan or South Korea. All the talk about US getting attacked is just saber rattling. North Korea has nothing to gain by attacking the US and a lot to lose. Risk vs Reward, why would they attack US?
Hasn’t China already said that they will defend NK against a strike by the US, if NK doesn’t strike first?
It seems like everything is aligning for WIII.
US, NATO, India, Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Egypt vs Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea, IranAll my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Okay, so can any of you ‘smart guys’ answer this question???
kyky @Thotfulmami Jul 28
how are the nukes supposed to reach California if North Korea is across the map from us???
Do you think Canada feels threatened by NK? Is Canada military preparing for a confrontation with NK? Are Canadians afraid of NK ICBM’s?
All the Canadians have been doing is bitching about Trump and the aggressive stance that he’s been taking. OTOH, they gave Bob the janitor a rifle and five rounds just in case…
Okay, so can any of you ‘smart guys’ answer this question???
kyky @Thotfulmami Jul 28
how are the nukes supposed to reach California if North Korea is across the map from us???
For the love of god…. how can people be this stupid…. unless… maybe She’s a flat earther. But that is a a completely different discussion and a different map. Not saying good or bad about flat earth.
Hell even an introductory game of RISK would resolve this. Bet she’s be mind blown if you show her a map and globe and say “these show the same thing”.
Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.
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