An alpha without the experience of relationships

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s just dating advice for introverted technogeeks.

Here’s some dating advice for introverted techno geeks and it’s free.

Spend your twenties and early thirties make a metric s~~~ ton of money in the IT industry. Use escorts for any physical needs.

Beginning in your mid-thirties, start fending off the horde of near-Wall ex-c~~~ carousel riders angling for your wallet through your c~~~. Pick and choose, pump and dump, and never ever commit.

Once you hit forty, parlay your money and their daddy issues into f~~~ing bright eyed 20 somethings. Again, pick and choose, pump and dump, and never ever commit.

That’s all you need to know and you got it for free.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 0]

OldBill wrote:

Beginning in your mid-thirties, start fending off the horde of near-Wall ex-c~~~ carousel riders angling for your wallet through your c~~~. Pick and choose, pump and dump, and never ever commit.

Hehe. They have a special term for gold diggers who are interested in landing a CEO or founder of a Silicon Valley start-up. They are called “founder hounders.” I found an article in Forbes magazine that talks about it. It’s basically another AWALT story, but one involving rich techno geeks:

Hannah, 27, really wanted a boyfriend. She figured it would be easy; after all, she lived in San Francisco, a city with a surplus 50,000 single millennial males. Plus, she’s petite, loves fashion and has swishy black hair down to her waist. And she’s no slouch; she’s completed a six month coding bootcamp, and planned to work in project management. But most of her dates led nowhere.

She blamed this on the fact that everyone she dates is a founder or works at a startup. “Everything is prioritized over me,” she said. Hannah’s (not her real name) latest romance was with a 23-year-old founder, working on an app to ‘disrupt’ trading. At first Hannah found this exciting — she appreciated his drive and liked seeing his company grow. But she was low on his to-do list, and was frustrated with his last-minute cancellations — instead of seeing her he’d be coding, or getting beers with his team. She broke up with him.“I thought he was a grown up because he had his own company,” she said. “But really, he was just a man-child with a lot of money.”

To some people, Hannah’s a typical ‘founder hounder,’ the millennial version of a gold digger. The term refers to people who seek out founders or CEO’s to date, attracted to their wealth or status. […]

Dating coaches in Silicon Valley advise CEOs to watch out for “founder hounders”:

“Women, in general, are very astute. Gold diggers can do an NPV analysis on you within the first hour of conversation, just like a VC can, by asking specific, pointed questions,” June Lin, a Bay Area tech worker wrote on Quora. “You should be able to do the same. In your first couple interactions with them, try to be humble and don’t emphasize your success. I’m not saying to hide it but just conveniently don’t bring it up without overly de-emphasizing your ambitions.”

The end of the article returns to Hannah:

As for Hannah? She decided that it was too complex to navigate San Francisco’s kid-ults and moved home to Canada.

Link to article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/zarastone/2016/06/02/the-silicon-valley-founder-hounder-problem/#104ebda32374

The article also mentions Sarah Jones and Introverted Alpha. This is their enviroment and their dating scene. 🙂

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

OldBill wrote:

TwoStep wrote:

It’s just dating advice for introverted technogeeks.

Here’s some dating advice for introverted techno geeks and it’s free.

Spend your twenties and early thirties make a metric s~~~ ton of money in the IT industry. Use escorts for any physical needs.

Beginning in your mid-thirties, start fending off the horde of near-Wall ex-c~~~ carousel riders angling for your wallet through your c~~~. Pick and choose, pump and dump, and never ever commit.

Once you hit forty, parlay your money and their daddy issues into f~~~ing bright eyed 20 somethings. Again, pick and choose, pump and dump, and never ever commit.

That’s all you need to know and you got it for free.

That is too dangerous. Free is never truly free.

Pay for your safety.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[The Laughing ManParticipant 1020]

Paul, you’re projecting dominance to cover your lack of control in the real world.

Loose the alpha beta mind set and selfie avatar, they reek of insecurity.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Yeah, I can tell by your picture you are not an alpha. Lying to yourself kid does no one any good.

[OldBillParticipant]

John Doe wrote:

Yeah, I can tell by your picture you are not an alpha.

B-b-b-b-but he’d paid them to tell him he’s an alpha!

Paul, there’s an old Texas saying I’ve always loved: “All hat and no cattle”. If you have to talk about being an alpha, you aren’t one.

Besides, why should you buy into PUA concepts?

Don’t be a poseur. Don’t talk a big game. Don’t mistake pretense for accomplishment. Don’t believe labels.

Be real. Do the work. Read. Think. Grow. Improve. Go your own way and don’t pay anyone for a map.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

It would have been better if he just said, I am a nerd…but I have learned (x,y,z) about women. What he doesn’t understand, and this is a scientific fact observed in the animal kingdom (apes if I remember correctly) is that alphas have abnormally high stress levels.

I hate to be that “dick” who makes fun of the others on the internet, because it is the internet, but this kid looks like he was weened two or three weeks ago off his mother’s tit.

And to “whats his face”: If you want to be an Alpha, get used to taking s~~~. This lesson will be for free. Consider it an act of brotherly charity.

[Anonymous 54]

Projecting your self to ba an alfa to women,with the goal of getting pussys is one thing.( mabey it will work). But declaring your self an alfa to a group of Men? There can only be 1 alfa male. You will be challenge by other Men. You know we have …combat veterans on here right? As in the real f~~~ing deal right? Be cool man. Sit back and observe for a while. Its all good man.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Anonymous wrote:

Projecting your self to ba an alfa to women,with the goal of getting pussys is one thing.( mabey it will work). But declaring your self an alfa to a group of Men? There can only be 1 alfa male. You will be challenge by other Men. You know we have …combat veterans on here right? As in the real f~~~ing deal right? Be cool man. Sit back and observe for a while. Its all good man.

Yeah…I see no reason why there has to be an alpha at all…or at least I haven’t met one yet. Don’t get me wrong I am not preaching the “let’s hold hands and sing along under the umbrella of world peace” bulls~~~. Its just that most stereotypical “alpha’s” are miserable and/or drunks/drug addicts with no self control (especially combat veterans). How is that alpha?

This whole alpha, beta, gamma, x-ray “I have the biggest c~~~” thing is predictable and boring. There are just men who have suffered more than others…that’s it…nothing to be “proud about”.

[Anonymous 54]

John Doe wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

Projecting your self to ba an alfa to women,with the goal of getting pussys is one thing.( mabey it will work). But declaring your self an alfa to a group of Men? There can only be 1 alfa male. You will be challenge by other Men. You know we have …combat veterans on here right? As in the real f~~~ing deal right? Be cool man. Sit back and observe for a while. Its all good man.

Yeah…I see no reason why there has to be an alpha at all…or at least I haven’t met one yet. Don’t get me wrong I am not preaching the “let’s hold hands and sing along under the umbrella of world peace” bulls~~~. Its just that most stereotypical “alpha’s” are miserable and/or drunks/drug addicts with no self control (especially combat veterans). How is that alpha?

This whole alpha, beta, gamma, x-ray “I have the biggest c~~~” thing is predictable and boring. There are just men who have suffered more than others…that’s it…nothing to be “proud about”.

if you met me,and i decided to be alfa ,youd meet one.I have no desire for it though. And show some God DAMN respect for combat veterans. (I’m not one) There been thru shut little wieners like you know nothing about.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Anonymous wrote:

if you met me,and i decided to be alfa ,youd meet one.I have no desire for it though. And show some God DAMN respect for combat veterans. (I’m not one) There been thru shut little wieners like you know nothing about.

Noone said that they weren’t brave… nor that they didn’t earn the (parades/free drinks/benefits/etc.)…nor that they don’t deserve more. Nor was it implied.

All I am saying is that:

Most combat veterans are miserable.
Most combat veterans have self-control issues.
These characteristics don’t make one alpha.

To tell you the truth, if most combat veterans were real alphas, they wouldn’t have to demand it. But you are not a combat veteran, as you claim, so what right do you have to speak for them? And how can you speak for the “s~~~ they been through” when you yourself admit to knowing nothing about it?

[OldBillParticipant]

John Doe wrote:

Most combat veterans are miserable.

No they aren’t.

Most combat veterans have self-control issues.

No they don’t.

And I’ll limit my comments to that.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

OldBill wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Most combat veterans are miserable.

No they aren’t.

Most combat veterans have self-control issues.

No they don’t.

And I’ll limit my comments to that.

Well then one, or both, of us has to expand the number of people we(I) know.

[OldBillParticipant]

John Doe wrote:

Well then one, or both, of us has to expand the number of people we(I) know.

You need to expand that number, not I.

I’ve been a combat vet since 1991 which might be longer than you’ve been alive.

All you know about combat vets is what the mainstream media tells you and we all here know how they lie.

You grew up surrounded by combat vets from WW2, Korea, and Vietnam and never even realized it. They were and are men in all walks of life and in all occupations. The only time you learn they are vets is when something happens and the media’s confirmation bias kicks in.

You might as well claim that “most” black males are felons.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 54]

I am an old biker. I ride with combat veterans all the time. I have read many books about what they go thru. The do not speak for them selves,so guys like me do.

[Anonymous 54]

There you go Old Bill. …You give Any f~~~ing combat veteran you meet Alfa status. Even if he’s on the street asking for money to get drunk. There are memories in his head that only alcohol can temporarily erase. Compared to him you are a punkass little snot.By books of Mens war cronicals. Learn what combat is REALY about. There are combat veterens,then there are the rest of us. REMEMBER THAT LITTLE F~~~ING PUKES!!!!!!!

[Anonymous 0]

I’m a Vietnam vet, though I was non-combat. But I knew plenty of combat vets, and most made it back and went on to become good dads, husbands, and workers at factories, etc.

A good film to rent: “Generation Kill.” It’s a mini-series (8 episodes) about a real-life elite Marine Recon unit that fought in Afghanistan and then shipped over to Iraq to spearhead the invasion of Baghdad. The mini-series starts with them waiting for orders to enter Iraq.

Naturally, actors play all the main parts in the mini-series. But after the mini-series is over, in the “special features” portion of the disk, they bring out a bunch of the real combat vets from the unit portrayed in the film and ask that what they thought of the mini-series, what they thought of the actors who played them, what they’ve been doing with their lives since the war, etc. And they’re all doing good, joking, gainfully employed, happy to have a little reunion, etc.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in seeing real-life combat vets getting together for a little reunion, check out that “special features” segment of “Generation Kill.”

(Also, the mini-series itself is fantastic, and was highly rated by the critics.)

[Anonymous 54]

Can I get you Gentlemen a beer?

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

Can I get you Gentlemen a beer?

Hehe. Thanks, Old Sage.

Me too, OldBill. Thanks for your service and your sacrifices on the field of combat.

[Anonymous 54]

Heres the one civilians dont seem to get…I am deeply sorry for the loss of your friends. That’s what combat is really about. Watching your buddy’s die.

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