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  • #690729
    Doc
    Doc
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    Think through all the avenues available to you. From worst to best.

    Work out the ‘if – then’ scenarios.

    ‘if I do this – what then?’ Etc for each.

    Plan. Think. Pause. Act when you can account for each move and counter move. Try and work it out to the final outcome from best to worst so you are not caught out by unforeseen moves. It will help you remain as in control of the situation as possible.

    Above all else use all the time you have available. That way you give yourself time to think and maintain the control.

    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius


    Anonymous

    The time to stop this bulls~~~ was a good 20 years ago. Really should have been stopped 50+ years ago, but I believe we passed the final point 20 years ago. At that time it became too late because nobody was willing to stop what they were doing, and slowly men began moving off the plantation and stopped listening.

    People talk about the internet, but the internet was still in its infancy then. Mass media in the form of television was the main propaganda tool. And male viewership pretty much went off a cliff around then, and kept dropping.

    The globalists came up with the Facebook solution a good 10 or so years after, and decided to take over that. But it was always operating under feminist principles to begin with, so the men lost the 10 years prior, and the 20 years total, were an entire generation. That’s where you really began to see MGTOW popping up and marriage rates dropping, it’s a lagging indicator.

    And now the globalists with #metoo and everything else are beginning to think maybe they overplayed their hands. Too late now though. They truly think the problems really just popped up a few months ago with #metoo and if they just walk that back they’re fine. They don’t understand that it’s 20+ years and an entire generation that already found out it doesn’t need to bother with the mass media propaganda.

    They have to now work to actually elevate men again. But if they do that, they will get backlash from women and blue pill men. So they’re stuck. Most of these globalists are probably just planning to move to Latin America or India, the two major emerging markets that finance has been crazy over the past few years. They have been pumping tremendous income into India’s infrastructure specifically.

    #690163
    Carnage
    Carnage
    Participant

    A single man with no kids doesn’t need his job. Life is easier without a parasite of a wife, freeloading bastards, and a mortgage, or even a car note.

    But, a slave who have these responsibilities need his job.

    I just quited mine, I’m gonna get my s~~~ in my old beated up car and hit the road.

    No plan, no direction and no f~~~ to give.

    Some patients where crying.

    But well that’s life.

    Gonna look for a job at a Hospital to increase my cv and f~~~ing finally move to Ireland.

    The only reason I “need” a job is to buy my house in the Caribbean mountains and retire at 50.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #689979
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    She was physically attractive, had a respectable job, and insisted men be always on the hook to pay her way–and when she was called upon to antie up, it always came with a price. She openly admitted belief that women are morally entitled to their husbands’ paychecks, and told me I wouldn’t believe how easy it is to call the police and have her partner towed off on abuse charges. She slept with a pile of animals on her bed just like Gargamel’s photo. She had an affair with her married lawyer, who gave her pro bono service probably so she wouldn’t expose him, and phoned him regarding multiple guys she dated, like a spring ready to snap, even taking some of them to court.

    In the end she was inhumane. Just a high-maintenance, insecure extortionist.

    Playing any of such tricks on me would get her into serious secret retaliations from my part. All bitches who ever wanted “to get into my life” were all saying “I wouldn’t want to have you as an enemy!” and that was secret code for “My interest in you is gone because you are too dangerous to f~~~ over”.

    How do you keep a criminal off your back: You show him your arsenal and your skill. And I always knew how weaponized women are and wanted to test my snowflakes for inner s~~~tiness.

    And so I explained things “I would do in case” while cynically laughing about them. So many details, they knew that I mean business. That way I found out if these women had a background agenda pointing in that direction.

    They don’t marry you “for your money” if they have to fear that their planned divorce payoff will be rewarded with a “special and final gift”…

    They always knew that I can double down on any tragedy they could possibly put me through. And make their life miserable without doing one day in the joint. And even if one would put me away for rape, I would get out years later and wipe her and everything she owns from existence.

    Tooth for tooth, eye for an eye.

    That’s what love has become.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

    Alabama Special Election Dec 12th, 2017 Roy Moore vs Doug Jones.

    I did not post this thread to comment on any endorsements or accusations dealing with the candidates. I only post about the election itself.

    So far from reports on the ground there has been heavy voter turn out, including areas that historically support Roy Moore: https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin/status/940675006551519232 (Link only mentions turnout.)

    Turn out numbers and where voters are voting is important. Because Republican break late on voting due to many Republicans waiting until the get off of work from 5:00 PM to 6:00 PM.

    If Republicans voting in large numbers early, this only adds to the bulk of Republicans which vote later in the day.

    In other news related to this, the Democrats are already calling foul on Alabama’s Vote ID laws, which prevent the Democrats from doing much of their usual cheating: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/alabama-democrats-already-crying-cant-steal-senate-election-voter-id-laws/

    What concerns me is that the Alabama Secretary of State has stated he expects only to see a low turnout of 25%: https://twitter.com/cdallasWHNT/status/940670980590063618

    Ground reports on twitter report otherwise.

    Also, a judge today allow Alabama to destroy the digital voting records: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/in_final-hour_order_court_rule.html

    From all this I can guess that Roy Moore will likely win. Still, there is a chance that the vote will be rigged for Doug Jones.

    In addition, there are other ways those opposing Roy Moore might try to prevent him from being a U.S. Senator even if he wins this election.

    Should Roy Moore win, the Democrats alreay look to be gearing up to try to fight the election results by likely trying to have federal judge invalidate the special election results on the grounds that Voter ID laws are racist.

    Also, the Rinos in the Senate have already stated they plan to trying to throw Roy Moore out if he wins this elections.

    This is going to be a long fight which will not end when the election results come in tonight.

    #689113
    Landmine
    Landmine
    Participant

    Gents, a big hello to you all – the creator(s) of the site, the registered users and bystanders.

    I have lurked enough these past couple of weeks, having discovered the site by accident.

    It has brought me a mix of feelings, of comfort to realize I am not alone and never will be again, and pain for revisiting what I call my untold story.

    The biggest emotion I have slowly embraced is one of hope. Hope for me, hope for others.

    This post is my introduction, the narrative of my success, my failure if I were to believe the standard that society expects, and ultimately (and the reason for taking the time to write it) as an extreme warning to lurkers, people on the fence, the curious and the critics of those who have decided to go their own way.

    I am not a writer yet will attempt to keep a semblance of order to what follows, nor have I ever in my life considered adding my voice to something like this, in the public space.

    I have had enough of the BS that permeates throughout what passes as life today. I don’t say this out of desperation or as an attempt for attention or pity.

    I speak as a man who believed in it all. Family, kids, the Mc Mansion, the cars, the vacations and everything else.

    Before I continue, I will be clear on some things –

    My story is simply my story. You will find while it is unique to me, it is NOT unique with many, many commonalities to stories already shared.

    My journey to today has taken years. Yes, years of struggle, despair and disbelief at the harsh realizations I found to be true.

    While I want to be short and sweet, I cannot be so if I’m to be truthful with all of you.

    For the lurkers, who like me visit and read the forums etc., I ask this of you – share your story, if even only bullet points. I ask this of you for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it may be the healthiest thing you could do to get it off your chest if you do not have someone to share it with. Secondly, the only way for MGTOW to grow properly is organic, for that to happen more men need to come forward with their stories. Enough is enough.

    Finally, to be clear, my story as I share here has evolved over roughly 5 years. During this time, I have lost my successful business because of rumors, been verbally accosted in public because of rumors, have financially struggled (still do), have swallowed my pride and on occasion consulted with a counsellor for my mental health, been incarcerated (because of rumors/lies and white knight cops), almost been deported back to my country of birth because of a lie in family court, it goes on.

    Some points I will have to remain vague to remain somewhat anonymous, beware of possible triggering for those of you who have been demonized. So, grab a beverage, some popcorn and enjoy…

    As indicated above, I’m in the usa but hail from Europe. English is my first language.

    Until 2 weeks ago, I was lonely. Not lonely for a warm body beside me, but for any likeminded individual who might actually feel the way I feel. Folks, I’m not dumb, nor am I the smartest cookie, but since before my life was sucked into a vacuum I was questioning everything.

    Questioning my marriage, whether to have kids, my career, my possessions, my friends, my acquaintances, my family, my house, everything.

    Actually, not true. I never questioned my dog. The one constant in my story – albeit with a forced separation of over a year. More on that later.

    I arrived in the usa about 10 years ago with a wife. And yes, I believed I was safe. And truthfully at that time I was. She was then an honest woman, supportive and worked.

    Read that again folks, and realize after everything I’ve been through I still say I was safe. That was the reality I lived, I had someone, was doing all expected of me, as was she. Shared common goals and dreams with a plan to make it all happen, including the huge effort and expense of emigrating to this country.

    Read that again, because this is the same person who attempted to not just ruin me emotionally and financially. Add to that an attempt to have me incarcerated and deported. I surely wish I was kidding.

    Understand I feel nothing for this creature. No anger, no love. Not even pity. I have worked on myself to reach this point of acceptance. I tell you now it is liberating.

    Liberating to know I made it this far, I’m still here, liberating to know I am among many men who will accept me for who I have become.

    Having found this site, I finally feel as if peace and calmness is now ready to embrace me.

    My story begins with suspicions of infidelity based on different patterns of behavior etc. Seeking advice online, I found a forum (not this one) and it cemented for me that I was not crazy, the circumstances warranted investigating further. Meantime an “innocent” statement is made by the unicorn that sends me into hyper awareness mode and full-time paranoia.

    Suspicions confirmed, an agreement is made not to involve attorneys. During this time, I am stealthily making preparations to protect myself with documents, cash and a var. Thank Christ I did. If I never understood the term pussy pass before, I would soon find out.

    All dialogue and agreements were a charade. Police called because I invaded her space – I knocked on bedroom door to ask a question. Yes, a simple question. No arrest because I had recorder on me.

    A day later, the comfort of my home was to be invaded swiftly again while I was in solitude enjoying peace and quiet accepting I now had to forge a new future for myself. Cue the arrival as the siege of my property began. I expected a deputy with documents. No, I got the full service of several officers.

    I’m informed I have 10 minutes, no dialogue with the unicorn (who now has been promoted to evil queen and is in complete victim mode), to be escorted by officers at all times – in my own home. I take no pleasure in telling you I was treated like a criminal, and I say that as someone who is very thick skinned and not easily threatened.

    I must remain vague here. I get my go bag. No weapons. Cash is hastily grabbed. I’m sweating. I can already see my future. It’s upsetting. Yes, I cried. I cried hard. Not for the situation, the loss of a previous best friend, a wife, a house. No, I cried for my true best friend. I cried for my dog. I wouldn’t see him for 2 weeks, when I could clear my name and reputation and fight this in court. I knew I was about to spiral for at least a week, and needed solitude.

    I spent the night driving. Thinking. Planning. To this day I only recall going to familiar places we lived, everything after that is a blur. I am sure I ran every emotion that night.

    I had a 2 week wait for court to get back in the house. I decided I didn’t want back in but still went to court to clear my name. The big lie is told that I broke the order and was in the house and making threats, told with such enthusiasm and zest that males and females alike look at me with expressions of disgust and hatred. Yet I have a witness, who clears me without doubt, everything is verifiable AND is verified while in court. Thus, perjury has been committed in court. Guilty you say? No, judge didn’t even blink. 5 minutes previous I was headed to jail, now its let’s move on. Yep, this happened. I admit to using a var in car, almost teasing the judge to put me in a cell, was respectable but still nfg. Despite having documents to show ownership, dog is to stay at house?

    I leave that courtroom a free man, and grateful to be so, and shaken by the knowledge that while my life is unravelling I am both growing and having my eyes further opened. I actively pursue to get my dog legally to no avail. The system is biased.

    I also steadfastly believed it couldn’t get any worse. Yeah when you challenge the universe like that it always accepts.

    At this point I am already losing my business, have had a couple of run ins publicly with “friends/acquaintances “where I’m called everything except a rapist and murderer. People that visited my house, broke bread with me, I found employment for. I am also, in an effort to save cash, sleeping in my car, sometimes a companion’s bed as I am now headed down a rabbit hole of complete debauchery. Much like a freed caged animal, I am in full sexual abandon with NFG. I’m drinking, and experimenting with other substances. As I reflect on that I knew what I was doing for the most part, the release from years of playing it safe and pent up frustration. I wasn’t much of a drinker to this point nor had I ever done drugs. Amazingly, not least because of looks or accent, the discovery of behaving like what I now know to be called “chad” was far too easy. There was no more mystery with women. However, I had rules, and never lied. My last tryst however was the biggest red pill of the opposite sex. In the company of said female, after our activities it was divulged that she was married. She lied to me. Look I messed around, but not this way. This was the rule I was NEVER willing to break. Yes, I told the guy. I met him, sat with him and asked for forgiveness. He decided to be cucked, that she was worth it, and their faith would get them through it.

    Remember I said it couldn’t get any worse. It could but thanks for playing. My crime was sleeping in my car – vagrancy. I was smart enough not to go nuclear as the other cruiser unknown to be was another white knight cop, and they had an itch for damsels in distress. This was to be a recurring theme, hassle from these 2. Random traffic stops. Random searches etc.

    I was detained and incarcerated overnight at the officer’s discretion for fear of my safety from the elements. Yeah guess it was cold night. WTF? How the absolute f%^$ can this s~~~ be allowed to happen. On release I was “encouraged” to leave the county.

    Mediation before family court for divorce was a joke. The system is rigged. The mangina didn’t give 2 f~~~s.

    Court even better and I’ve managed to get quick hearing. Division of possessions, vehicles etc. And the dog. Have the paperwork of ownership, proof that I have somewhere to live, small income. Feeling confident I will get him.

    I declare she is pregnant and request of the court to document it that unless it’s the second coming of Christ, it isn’t mine. Because I know chad moved in 2 days after I was removed from the house. He even got to wear my clothes, how nice for him to enjoy my luxuries including my home theatre and other vehicle.

    Divorce decree I got off lightly. Seriously. I had f#$@ all income at this point. So, no alimony of any type. We pay our own outstanding debts. I will quit claim deed the house, and amazingly, it is in the decree that a child conceived during the separation is not mine. I swear seeing that in writing was amazing. Why? Because while not mine, I could have been on the hook financially for it, it was not yet born. That’s how messed up the system is.

    I’m devastated to read the dog is to stay with her, as the house is the only home he has known. Really? I have documents of ownership, I kept up the insurance, had food delivered every month and have proof from the vet he’s behind on screenings and shots, and you think this is best for him. I’m aware he isn’t being walked but can’t prove it. I eventually get him back from her at a cost. His health is down and has gained significant weight, is obese. Takes him a while to accept me again. Rage boils every time I think back on that. I have no respect for any human that treats animals like this, none.

    To anyone who has been divorced with kids, I have no words. I only had a dog and it almost destroyed me to be separated from him. The thought of a child or children, I don’t know what I would do.

    I have worked hard on myself, to rebuild. I’m not a quitter but the above, and stuff I’m leaving out, has taken a toll. Despite the tone of this story I always maintained a positive attitude and my humor. I recently went back to the field I had my business in, and found I’m still treated with disdain. Understand I was more than successful, I had it all, was respected and revered. Seems even when they know they were wrong they don’t like to admit it or make amends, man and woman alike. So, I am now endeavoring to enter another filed. I cannot work for someone, whether it be a corporation or the like, the system. I’m done with that. My strength is my determination, my only regret is it took me this long to get to this point, yet I am now the best version of myself mentally. Next will be to get back in shape physically, my health has suffered but is improving.

    As for my ex, I can honestly say the date of my extraction from my own house is etched forever in my memory, and from that day I never again cared for her. Time has been unkind, she most definitely hit the wall, and hard. She now has that vapid, empty thousand-yard stare to her, a hallow cavity of a woman. Her health took a serious downturn with a permanent illness that limits her mobility and day to day activities. I take no pleasure in that. She is now also a single mother, the chad flew the coop, he also took her for a lot of money, and she is now on her 3rd remortgage.

    I feel no anger, pity or anything for her. While I write all this my emotions are flooding back and I find myself passive. It’s simply a chapter of my life now almost complete. I will continue to grow, and live happy determined to once again be a success as I deem success to be, not societies version, and not a woman’s.

    By mgtow standards, I guess I am monk. I have had no physical interaction since 2015. I’m fine with that. Will I engage again, maybe? However never again will I have a “girlfriend”, wife or cohabitate. It is not worth it. I don’t have much financially, but I have energy and a willingness to work for what I want to achieve. I am not a victim, I am a survivor destined to be another statistic.

    Some additional comments, etc. especially for lurkers;

    To anyone contemplating or experiencing a divorce, I offer this – think long game. Protect yourself with a voice activated recorder, if not a bodycam, I’m not an attorney so check the laws local to you. Yes, I stood in court and admitted to using one and have no regrets, because having read threads here on rape accusations, I have no doubt I could have been a statistic if I returned to that house. In this way, I was lucky. As I was also lucky in my sexcapades to not have had a pregnancy, std’s or false accusation. Visit every single divorce attorney in a 20-mile radius, first consult, for free. They cannot represent her this way. Document every single thing, and if separated – get off the phone, email or text when possible. If short on cash, get advice and represent yourself, know the procedures to enter evidence etc. the judge will not help you here, they can’t.

    To anyone experiencing or experienced with infidelity, it is never about you, remember that. Never. It’s genetics at work, base root narcissism and more. You will experience lies, gas lighting, paranoia and depression. You will read published authors of big standing in an industry that is gamed for women, against men, becoming convinced that your choice of women is to blame, that your behavior/lack of certain behavior with a partner is to blame, that you should forgive and forget, that you are a codependent. IT. IS. ALL. LIES. Every bit of it lies. See as men, we accept responsibility easily when we f~~~ up, and that is played on. Women make such outstanding “victims” as they refuse to take responsibility when called on their actions.

    NAWALT – yes they indeed are. Are their exceptions, possibly but not of any recent generation.
    Male friends – If you can help, help. Have boundaries because they have to want to help themselves first.
    Sex – don’t stick it in crazy. From a guy with 2 stalkers later. Sex is NEVER free, always a cost.
    Divorce Attorneys – Scum, the only ones who win every time.
    Violence / Revenge – it’s not worth it. There’s an art to it, and if not enough time has passed you will mess it up. Leave them be, they have a way of messing it up themselves.
    Groups – divorce groups etc., maybe worth it, for me no. I went, but really it doesn’t help s~~~’s depressing.
    Sex Addiction – I laughed many, many years ago when I heard this was to become a recognized addiction. But speaking from my own experience and that of women I encountered, indeed it is. FYI – women are worse than men, another lie, because we can’t know the true nature of women getting out into society, can we?

    I hope to add value to the group when and where I can and repeat that I am happy to have found it.

    I no longer view society how I was taught from a young age. I never watched t.v. , always read or got off my ass and travelled, experienced things first hand. Looking around me each day if I’m out, I can only sigh a small sigh as swallowing my daily red pills is still painful. Single moms, land whales, fat positive, simps, manginas my goodness they all have titles.

    If I had the power, heck I’d be tempted to press the red button.

    I don’t hate women, I wish them well and do not engage unless I have to. To that end, while I have a strong distaste for simps/manginas, if they keep the women away from the rest of us have at it.

    There is no longer any mystery to women for me. I was led to believe they don’t know what they want. WRONG. They know exactly what they want. They want your money. Want proof?
    I asked my ex, why did you move countries with me if you were so unhappy with me all that time ago? Because of money, yep she admitted it. I was a strong provider.

    I am now in my forties. I always thought I would have kids, but no longer regret that. When finances improve, vasectomy. No doubts at all.

    This has been my journey, with lots omitted. Crazy stories, funny titbits, awesome experiences.

    But they pale in comparison to the cesspool of raw emotions women, not just my ex-wife, have put me through in my life.

    I have been on 2 occasions extremely successful – 7 figures. Hopefully third time the charm and all that. But I am not distracted by money, possessions or the like. I could happily live in the woods, live off all that nature might provide. I don’t do social media, read the news, or watch TV. I was an avid fan of movies, it was an easy escape for me, however the more red pills I take the more p~~~ed I got at them, with the lies and shams they have become.

    For women reading this, girls it’s over.

    You have before you a man’s man, tough when it counts, yet soft and gentle with a woman’s heart who believed in prince charming, the castle and glass slipper.

    Of being a provider, of languishing every luxury and gifts upon the gentle sex.

    Of being a gentleman in public, a beast in bed, and a nurse when sick.

    Of keeping a kept house, carrying our weight with laundry, sumptuous dinners of the finest quality ingredients. The latest and greatest vehicle in the sweeping driveway of the large house glamorously furnished that it would be appropriate in a designer magazine.

    Of accepting your family, your friends and supporting them emotionally and financially.

    We, the men, did all this and more. All we wanted was the occasional blowjob and a kiss and a cuddle. You went right ahead and f~~~ed it all up.

    The truth is out there, but it isn’t aliens, it’s the truth of what feminism now represents, what girls’ night out are truly for, what stay at home moms really intend to do with their day while we are away slaving to keep your entitled butts in luxury. What the hive mind thinks, feels and encourages.

    A comparison on the above, stay with me here – gay marriage. I have friends who are gay. I told them heck you might as well be miserable like the rest of us. Now look at the hive when it comes to divorce, you think it’s any different? All your friends divorced/divorcing, you think they want you happy? Don’t kid yourself. You know you compare yourself to them, and they to you. The hive always infects.

    To the lurker I say this. Be grateful if you find this site before it’s too late. And remember if you have a partner or wife, it’s just your turn.

    To the critics reading this I say to you, genuinely and respectfully, look around you. Really, look. Open your damn eyes, whether you’re a male or a female. Do you remember a time people gave a s~~~ for others, the kindness of strangers, when a man could help a child who fell off their bike etc.? When a man actually held a door for a woman and felt good about it, because that was expected of him, he knew this and was fine with it. Now, that same man, not only won’t hold that door open, he won’t look at the woman because of a four-letter word. FEAR.

    1 phone call. 1 phone call. 1 phone call. That’s all it takes now. No evidence, no witnesses, lie in court with the full knowledge if one commits perjury there are no ramifications. The pussy pass.

    Sexual liberation is not what you think it is critics. It’s back to victimization and refusal to accept responsibility for one’s actions like an adult. You call it slut shaming, and are incorrect. It’s calling a spade a spade. The fact it is now encouraged by the media for a woman to have as much experience as they want, I completely agree with you. Free choice and all that. But hopping on that carousal while waiting on the beta prince, well no that can’t work. Who would want a used-up woman who has no respect for herself? Because face it, if someone (talking about both sexes here) has respect themselves enough, they don’t engage in such behavior over an extended period of time. You can phrase it however you like, yes men are bothered by how many she’s had, but we are more bothered when we learn they were mostly one nighters, without protection etc. That’s a gas tank of danger to a man, who having become successful enough to actually get the attention of a female is now expected to want that? No.

    Add onto this the false accusations, false paternities and more, ask yourselves, why would be bother? We’re not virgins, hopeless or depressed.

    We are the awakened. We are MGTOW.

    We are the awakened. We are MGTOW


    Anonymous

    Don’t ever have children. I have a 20 year old son that I love and would do anything for but know that he was a mistake. Don’t give a woman your children. Fighting my ex to be in his life cost me all my money, my savings, my house and my car.

    The only thing left me was my retirement and 401K (rock on!).

    I have been a fathers rights advocate for more years than my son is born and he is 20. We like to down ride the MRA’s but one faction, the ‘Fathers Rights Group’ has made incredible progress to defeat the position of the National Organization of Women that they are against shared parenting.

    NOW has gone full out for custody of kids going only to the mother. Still, in Florida it took a veto from the Gov.to stop the bill.

    In other states bills are moving forward rapidly to make shared custody the default on temporary custody orders, the ones that become concrete at the time of trial.

    20 states are now considering custody reform in favor of shared custody. Even the DSM has come out with parental alienation being a mental disorder.

    By Michael Alison Chandler December 11 at 8:04 PM

    The every-other-weekend dad, born from two generations of soaring divorce rates, was once a conventional part of American culture. In recent years, more couples have been agreeing to parent after divorce as they did in marriage: collaboratively.

    Now lawmakers are accelerating this trend toward co-parenting, with legislatures in more than 20 states this year considering bills that would encourage shared parenting or make it a legal presumption — even when parents disagree.

    Kentucky this year passed a law to make joint physical custody and equal parenting time standard for temporary orders while a divorce is being finalized. Florida’s legislature overwhelmingly approved a bill last year to presume equal time for child custody plans, but it was vetoed by the governor. And in Michigan, lawmakers are considering a bill that would make equal parenting time the starting point for custody decisions.

    #687850
    SpiderHerder
    SpiderHerder
    Participant

    That boy needs an abortion and a vasectomy.

    Maybe a plane ticket to somewhere far ?

    OK, thanks Gambit. Sorry, didn’t realize. Have closed the italics code.

    Finally ! Haha thanks for changing it.

    #686989
    Vajra Varaha
    Vajra Varaha
    Participant

    I wrote out everything I wanted to say in my intro and it was over 25 pages long. Just too much, so I pared it down to focus on the second most painful event in my life. The most painful was the Death of the Soulmate Delusion. But, it just takes too much space to cover that epic red pill.

    So, here we go. I’ve been lurking in various MGTOW themed area for years. Never intended to talk about this stuff. But with everything going on in the world, I felt it was time to own my MGTOW story. And hopefully help some poor sucker avoid the pain and suffering so many of us are going thru.

    What’s in a Name?
    My spiritual explorations are the main path for how I travel my own way. So naturally it colors everything I do. If during the course of this narrative you are wondering why in the hell I chose to do something, it probably has to do with spiritual beliefs I’m skipping over. Expansion of consciousness and self-development are key components to the man I want to be.

    Vajra is a Sanskrit term for Thunderbolt and Diamond.
    Varaha is the name of an Avatar of Vishnu that literally pulled the world out of the waters of chaos.
     
    Wikipedia the names if you want to go more in depth.

    The definition of my chosen name is:
    1.      The indestructible fully awakened mind of enlightenment which is like thunder and lightning.
    2.      The more literal interpretation is: The rock hard diamond c~~~ of the wild boar god. :-). 
    Remember boys, be a divine dick! God told you to. Save your world! #V2
     
    So here we go…f~~~ once upon a time. This ain’t no fairy tale.

    I grew up in a hillbilly small town in Appalachia. Dad was from the wrong side of the tracks and mom was about the same. I was not treated well by the community. Dad was a Viet Nam vet which of course meant he was absent from my childhood due to the demons he was dealing with. Mom filled my head with all sorts of things that I later learned were thought bombs women program us all with, setting us up for some other woman to come along and yank our chain. Thanks mom.

    So I was your typical hungry, socially awkward, hard working lower class white male struggling to pull himself up by the boot straps. Being who I was, a nice southern gentleman, abnormally smart, pathologically nice, hardworking, with ethics, meant of course I was never going to get any female attention growing up. Worked my ass off thinking when I got to college things would change. Nope. The high school popularity machine just gets worse since there’s even less adult input. Didn’t matter anyway. I was broke and had to pay for my entire school myself. Even went a little malnourished at one point and my hair fell out for awhile. I earned an EMT certification and a real estate license I was so hungry to succeed WHILE attending college for Biology/Pre-med with lets just say a lot more thrown in. There were years where I worked at night, school in the daytime, with 4 hours of sleep except when I could catch up on my single day off. No time for socialization. I was going to make something of myself. Idiot.

    So my brilliant, hardworking, lonely ass got accepted to med school. Had prepared so well as an undergrad I sailed thru the book work. I actually had more time on my hands than when I was an undergrad. Still no female interest. I can’t believe the stories I am skipping over here to save space. Got to my third year of med school where we start rotating in hospitals. At the same time I finally got my first girlfriend, had my first kiss, and lost my virginity all in rapid succession. I was about 25. She was a fairly intelligent woman studying architecture. I did every typical nice guy, white knight, Capn’ Save a Ho routine known to man because I just didn’t know any better. She worked as a brand representative for electronics companies. She drove a new car, had new clothes, a pair of implants, and a 10k diamond ring. While my brain was going “hey something ain’t right here” and “what does she expect from me with all this?”, I plunged ahead just being ecstatic to no longer be single. Never did figure out how she was paying for all that stuff. Doesn’t matter, I was soon to experience the Apocalypse.

    My first few clinical months were under a great male family doc. I was wildly successful and grew in confidence. I wasn’t single. Things were great. Then I went to my first hospital rotation. My attending was a femi-nazi C~~~. But being the dutiful med student I followed my orders to the letter. She felt medicine had failed women focusing too much on the men. So she ordered every doc under her to perform full head to toe textbook physical exams on women. No skipping parts. So I was sent to see this woman who had been admitted with severe abdominal pain. Did exactly as I was instructed. The ER doc, Internal medicine doc, an OB/GYN, and at least 3 interns/residents all said she had Pelvic Inflammatory Disease. Which is when untreated STD’s spread into a woman’s abdomen. Me, the dumbass med student, found all the classic signs for acute appendicitis. I was so excited that I had just found something everyone else missed, I wasn’t thinking of protecting myself and performed the breast exam and genital exam (external not internal) and forgot to call in a witness. The next day, I reported my findings to my team. She had an emergency CT Scan and immediate surgery that saved her life. I was right. It was the first and last time I was ever proud about being a doctor.

    The head doc of the hospital comes walking down the hall with one of our female interns in tow. I’ll never forget the s~~~ eating grin on her face. I was summoned to the admin department to find the head nurse of the hospital there as well. With a tape recorder. Of course, Im young, naive but had this horrible feeling I was about to get hurt. Turns out she filed a complaint stating I made her “uncomfortable.” They asked me to give my version of things. They declined to answer any of my questions and walked me out of the hospital. The wheels are spinning in my head and I came to the conclusion I was being hung out to dry. They didn’t care how it made me look, being walked out of the hospital. The next day, after zero sleep I went and found my dean. And the Twin Towers fell and my girlfriend was on a plane. Found out later she was fine but add that little gem to my day. Told him the entire story and man to man he looked me in the eyes and asked if I was guilty of anything. I said no sir. I owe my career to that man. He gave me he benefit of the doubt. Let me continue with school while everything was going to s~~~. And when I say s~~~ I mean, imagine completing med school with all the rumors and gossip flying. Every day was like walking down the Klingon Pain Ritual. The stares, the lies, the games, the persecution. Especially from women. And still having to complete the training to become a doctor. Only thing I was guilty of was doing an excellent job and saving her life.

    The lawsuit drug on for two years. She claimed sexual assault. My phones were tapped. Private investigators followed me around. I developed PTSD. I never slept. When I did I had nightmares. Woke up drenched in sweat. Had constant thoughts about going to prison, being raped in prison, being made a sex offender, losing my entire career, you name it, it was a s~~~ show in my head. I was sent on every s~~~ detail known to man in the hospitals.
    If there was something or someone no one wanted to deal with, I went. I became incredibly experienced.

    One of the Chritmas’s I endured rolled around. The girlfriend I mentioned above struggled from the emotional pain I was suffering. She put forth a token effort but looking back I know I was treated like radioactive waste. She was waiting to see if I was viable long term. The support felt faked. We exchanged gifts. I got her a silver business card case and some jewelry with what little money I had. Put a lot of time into it. She got me a teddy bear. AFTER we had exchanged gifts we ended up in a fight. All I remember is the statement “I don’t think you ever loved me.” She said that dead pan, no emotion. It wasn’t spontaneous. It was planned. I told her if she could say that after everything I had done, I didn’t need to be here. I walked out. I skipped over a lot but I got her out of some horrible situations. She didn’t care. A month after I walked, I called her up to talk. Didn’t want to get back together. I just wanted to take a harder look at myself. She said she’d have to ask her boyfriend for permission. I said thanks, you just answered my questions. Awfully fast turnover if she wasn’t cheating…….she became a lawyer. Dodged that bullet at least.

    Anyway, the time came for depositions for the lawsuit. She went first. I had been studying law every night before I went to bed. Wish I’d been enrolled somewhere while I did it. Could have picked up an extra degree. For two years every night after my medical work was done, I hit the law books. Except for my dean, everyone else was screwing me. The school lawyer and malpractice attorney wouldn’t talk to me. I had a long talk with my dad and he hired a private attorney at my request. Was the first time I ever felt he was taking care of me. We’ve grown closer over the years because of this. At least there’s that. So I took the radical approach and ignored the lawyers. I asked if I could be present at her deposition. They said it was completely legal but unheard of. I flew across country to attend. By god if this bitch was going to lie about me and ruin my life she was going to do it to my face. In her deposition she was revealed to have done time in jail for meth, that of course she claimed wasn’t hers but her boyfriends. She was found to have filed prior lawsuits against her employers looking for money. And the coup de grace was when she said she had been fantasizing that I must have wanted a relationship with her. With a s~~~ eating grin while she was saying it! The next day her lawyer offered to settle for what was basically his costs. The amount was so low I was told it communicated clearly to everyone it was a nuisance case. I agreed to settle. I knew what happened from my legal studies when you went before a jury. Case like this was a crap shoot for me. Her lawyer knew she was a horrible witness. I wasn’t about to play craps with my future any more. I was terrified the case was going to cause me problems later. It never really did. Oh I have tons more stories about how it affected things. How a doc I knew in residency, who looked like Adonis, was sleeping with patients and using illegal drugs. And because all the women loved him when I turned him in, they turned on me. He went scot free and I suffered for 4 years. But hey years later he lost his license for the same thing I tried to stop. And the lawyer who represented the bitch in my lawsuit lost his license for filing bogus lawsuits. Imagine that. All this was about 17 years ago.

    And I went on to go full hermit/monk until I suffered the Death of the Soulmate Delusion. But that’s probably enough for now……..I have so many more stories but it’s the Death of the Soulmate Delusion that is the most painful. It didn’t just destroy what was left of my heart, it took out most of my faith in God as well. That was 10 years ago.

    Men, if any of you are new or just looking around from curiosity, take all this very seriously.
    It can save you years of pain and suffering. AWALT. There is not one episode where you can ever be safe if you are in a relationship with a woman. I know from personal experience. If you are becoming a doctor, don’t. I can give you hours of lectures on why becoming a doctor in todays world is financial and emotional suicide. Don’t ever trust a nurse. Since the 80’s nursing school has been actively training nurses to be feminists and undermine doctors. Things the corporate world are just now dealing with, we faced decades ago. It’s gotten even worse. You wouldn’t believe what’s coming. Look at the news. It’s coming for you. Don’t be alone with a woman at work. Don’t trust a woman. Not a single one will ever truly care for you. if you ever think to yourself NAWALT, slap yourself. It will be less pain than what you are setting yourself up for. You haven’t found a unicorn!

    Someday maybe I’ll write about how my soulmate delusion was destroyed. But it takes so much to explain you wouldn’t believe I went thru it.

    So, keep the faith men. MGTOW. AWALT.

    It’s not #MeToo. It’s #V2. Vajra Varaha. Be indestructible. Be a dick. 🙂

    #686929
    Sandals
    Sandals
    Participant

    Women disobey their husbands. Men marry men. People and their nations no longer seek to make themselves and strong and successful but to be beautiful, accomplished in the arts and to seek pleasure. Foods are made that arouse appetite more than satisfy it, more seriously disabled are born etc etc. These are the prodigies that the gods will destroy a civilisation.

    And inflation. Don’t forget inflation.

    I must be another “canary in the coal-mine” then!!!

    It seems that only the Alphas and the Blue-Pill Manginas/Simps are breeding nowadays… Any man with genuine clear-thinking/common-sense/intelligence has walked away from women and won’t breed with women (in this toxic environment).

    What if you’ve already bred, and then got the clear thinking afterward? I am in that camp.

    A financial panic because nobody really owns any investments other than “physical” precious metals .. only IOU’s from banks and brokerage houses. A financial panic because high speed trading algorithms won’t know what to do and will repeatedly revert to option of last resort.

    Maybe Bitcoin derivatives will finally take us down.

    Incidentally, 9/11 was a bank robbery. Does anybody know where the gold actually went?

    We live in a competitive world, just like any other animal on this planet. I try not to focus too much on what happens to society as a whole, but rather what I need to do in order to accomplish my goals.

    But what goals does one have in a collapsed society?

    100%.. the real question is when.

    If you know it’s coming, don’t want to be there when it collapses:

    There will be no magical replacement source of energy that can replace fossil fuels.

    hmm… you sure about that? Energy is everywhere. Everything is energy.

    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    boat

    Though many of us have forgotten this unique film, there’s plenty to reflect on especially in the way of mghowesque scenes:

    1. The film opens with Costner alone on his boat, going his own way, carving out his own existence. MGTOW FTW

    2. He attempts trading with some folks who turn on him. He is placed in a cage and set to be executed. Now enters the useless woman of the film who needs him as an escape. She lets him loose to save her own ass. He has no choice but to agree. This is important to point out because normally he would not give a s~~~. Briffault’s Law awareness (get yours before she gets hers

    3. Once the useless woman and child are saved by him and they escape out to sea, he quickly deduces that they do not have enough water survive the trip to dry land.
    a. He automatically elects to throw the child overboard. MGTOW FTW
    b. The woman of course has nothing to offer except sex, which she offers but he refuses. MGTOW MONK FTW
    woman

    4. Later, while being attacked by a sea plane, the useless woman endangers the vessel causing damage. As punishment, the unnamed Fishman MGHOW holds her down and cuts off her hair. MGTOW FTW.
    a. The little girl gets mouthy too so he cuts her hair off too. MGTOW !

    women

    Next, they encounter a crazy drifter who wants to trade. Our fishman MGHOW agrees to pimp out the women for 30 mins of sex. MGTOW FTW profit for poon

    a. Although, when he surmises that the drifter is insane and violent he ends up having to kill him instead.

    Later, our MGHOW hero forms an emotional bond with the sarcastic child and teaches her to swim. He also tells her to listen more and shut up. Proof that men help children and are necessary role models. Manosphere Redpill FTW

    And still later, there are more appealing mgtow moments like when he singlehandedly takes on an army of Chads and blows up an oil tanker.

    Finally, for the closing of the film, one last red pill and salute to MGTOW. Our hero rejects life on land and the promise of poon in favor of Going His Own Way back out to sea.

    pirate

    Thanks for your attention. I will keep on the look out and deliver more reports on other fun movies that have red pill moments in
    GP’s Movie Analysis

    #684704

    In reply to: Danger of Vaccines?

    Anonymousyam
    anonymousyam
    Participant

    4 billion years we’re here and now all of a sudden we need a man-made invention to keep us healthy?

    The flaw in this is that modern humans are a 100 thousand to a few millions years old and throughout that time and man made treatment/vaccines are what prevent us from dying from faulty design.

    Without man made treatments our own design can lead to things that can kill us (faulty teeth, appendix, diseases that were cured by vaccines that can kill us or turn us into a vegetable etc). Those evil man made treatments have done alot of good in helping humanity.

    I’ll tell you this: I would get married again, to a known divorce-raper, and again, and again, before I would ever set foot near another vaccine. Accepting only that I would never get married to a women who had been vaccinated.

    Vaccines have shown to have worked and even if you get sick from one the sickness would be far less painful then the divorce rape. If i had to choose between a vaccine and getting married getting the vaccine is the most logical conclusion and even if it was based on it being bad for health (living in your area exposes you to s~~~ from the factories/car exhaust along with smoke and whatever s~~~ you eat).

    Why are all the vaccine horror stories being silenced? Why is there no dissenting voice on TV, and the pro-vaccine nuts are always calling the anti-vax folks all sorts of ad hominem names? hmm…

    Appeal to conspiracy as i can show examples of people claiming their children got sick or autism or whatever that was on the TV. Now when it comes to being silenced even if people in the mainstream call anti vaxers retarded it still has no effect that the anti vax message is being allowed out into the public.

    The biggest evil of big pharma is public schools demanding kids who attend their school be vaccinated or require some notice usually religious or medical which allows the parents to get out of it.

    And when it comes to attacking anti vaxers it generally is done once you hear of an outbreak of a easily preventable disease especially among Christian or religious circles or you hear of some f~~~head Christians letting their children die instead of getting medical attention (Christian science is common for this).

    Let’s look at this logically: follow the money: having a healthy population doesn’t make the medical industry money. You make money when an individual has to purchase your product continuously throughout his life. Create the problem, then offer the “solution” (literally).

    Vaccines are for reducing the chances of getting a disease or lessening the effect of it in case caught. You do not need vaccines however the cost benefit analysis shows that vaccines are far more beneficial then running the risk of getting a disease and requiring even more expensive medical treatment.

    I could use the food industry as being the greatest evil because without food we will die and the evil food industry uses that fact against us to force us to buy a product for the rest of our lives. Even if you live on a farm in the middle of f~~~ton nowhere you would still have had to buy the seeds to plant the food or got them for someone who did meaning you are still in the system.

    Your body is a miracle. You were made just fine. Only the devil could convince someone otherwise.

    Well actually your body is flawed from evolution increasing your risks for certain things depending on variable factors (it is genetics at work to produce whether or not you will have s~~~ty teeth, bad eyesight or impaired hearing).

    The argument that you were made just fine applies to circumcision or religion more then anything else, as what is the point of cutting a babies foreskin or labia and why would my completely natural sexual desire be a evil sin?

    Vaccines are man-made, like nuclear bombs and poison gas, and for the same reason.

    Of course you equate all that man made to evil when you forget that man made the technology that lets you communicate with a computer to begin with. Without man making modern luxuries such as air conditioning, heating, the ability to communicate with billions of other people while remaining in your geographic location, increased food production such as GMO’s and finally modern medicine, you sure as hell would not be on this website and you possibly would not even be alive today (something as simple as getting sick in your childhood or a needed surgery at 45 could have killed you).

    Of course blame man for all the evils while rejecting the good.

    My recommendation, do not ever let a vaccination anywhere near you or your loved ones – do your research and make your own decisions. If vaccines are so great, why are states having to require them for school? Think about that. If you are forced to vaccinate, home school or leave the state, or the country.

    So what if i do my own research and come to the conclusion that it is best to get vaccinated using my own free will and the benefits outweigh the costs and risks?

    Now when it comes to state exemptions 47 out of 50 allow some form of religious exemption from getting vaccinated with all allowing medical exemptions (so you can just get some crooked doctor to write you a fake medical exemption).

    If you have a baby in the hospital, watch how insane the medical staff become when you choose not to vaccinate. You will see the devil incarnate in these sick people. They will steal your baby and vaccinate it without your consent. We are living in times worse than Soddam and Gommorah. Medical nurses and administrators are some of the sickest people there are. They will even insist on vaccinating your premature baby, that has no immune system because the baby has not breast-fed.

    Newborns literally have no protection from diseases. If you want to test your idea out then take your newborn out to time square then test its immunity.

    Infants are the last group of people needing to get sick as the younger they are the more at risk they are from dying from their aliments.

    Every other commercial on the TV is for a drug, and now the news shows and newspapers will NEVER do a report on a drug company or against vaccines.

    On December 5th, 2017 the news resource of CBS (along with sources like ABC News however this was before that date) reported that the flu shot this year may only be 10 percent effective at combating the flu.

    How and what way is this positive attention for the companies that make the flu shot? these news sources are outright admitting that the flu shots in their current which researches spent hundreds if not thousands of hours on is not effective against the virus as it was in the past (meaning this and last years shots where duds).

    Yes, there is actually a Vaccine Court in America that pays millions in compensation for the horrors of vaccines, and yes, nobody knows about this special court! Funny… how can that be? Hmm…

    It is called the vaccine injury compensation program and alot of people know about it as anyone who types it into google can find it.

    It is not some secret thing on page 93 of google that you have to recite the entire book of the law by Alister Crowley backwards in french and use a tor browser (a special hidden tor browser) after uncovering the 13 secret clues and preforming a mantra on the 666th day of the decade.

    There is nothing hidden about it as this is open to anyone with any form of internet connection to find if they want to as it is the first few results on google on a government website.

    I was vaccinated as a child and I was one f~~~ed up little squirt. This s~~~ eats your brain and will leave you a blithering dumb f~~~ or just plain crippled.

    You are a great example of the vaccines eating your brain, The best evidence offered.

    Now prove with repeatable tests that vaccines eat your brains and make you retarded or crippled? being born retarded and getting a vaccine later in life does not offset the mental retardation same with any other condition.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #683812
    Astro
    Astro
    Participant

    “Good enough”

    I was alone, had no way home.
    I couldn’t be or not to be.
    Then something happened, don’t know how to say.
    It gave me brightness on my darkest day.

    (Chorus)
    I will always be good enough, she will always be good enough, can’t you see?
    When the pain within had took me in. When death was my final sin, she set me free.
    I can’t explain it all to you but I know what I feel is true. What can I say?
    Yesterday was sorrow but I feel hope for tomorrow, starting today. Yea, I found a way.

    Months of pain, going insane.
    Who gives a damn who is to blame?
    Something happened when I seen my shame.
    No more will I play the game.

    (Chorus)
    My lady is good enough, she will always be good enough, can’t you see?
    I will always be good enough, she will always be good enough… for me.

    What can I say but I have a good sex doll. When I have the money, I plan to get one better.

    #679872

    Anonymous

    Gee, Israel f~~~ing around in U.S. politics? Nah, that’s f~~~ing ludicrous.

    Booting Israeli interests from the U.S. would do the country 1,000 times more good than chasing Russian ghosts ever will. S~~~, it would be good for the whole world, certainly the Mid East. In fact, I would say that this Neo-McCarthyism is due to Israel being upset with Russia ruining their plans in Syria, and therefore their long term plans of the destruction of all of Iran’s allies, and then finally Iran. So, what we are seeing is the collective Jewish/Israeli/Neocon forces pushing the demonization of Russia red faced tears rolling down the cheeks temper tantrum style.


    Anonymous

    We will finally create the prison planet.

    Then some of us will want to go space pirate 🙂 I don’t know why Mark Watney wanted to come back to Earth in movie Martian… I mean, if I could grow potato on Mars, and no one is disturbing, then I’d just do science in silence and probably cook some vodka from some potato too.

    Back to topic: We also need to distinguish between useful and necessary and totalitarianism-style big-data. It is okay to do some statistics, and to rate one’s possibility to pay back a loan. It is okay to catch big tax-evasive companies (otherwise good people need to pay a lot more tax, to the “taxation is theft” level of 50% of gross wages, like here in Europe… I hate it because they spend tax on building football stadiums and healthcare workers go Galt and leave the country, and country debt does not want to go down.)

    But these Chinese people are going much farther than that, what the hell have opinions of stuff have to do with the regular everyday life of a citizen? Why are they allowed to analyze social media and whatever else? Why do the rating of acquaintances matter? If my parents are bad citizens then I will be considered bad? If I buy second hand (not stolen) electronics stuff from a bad guy, then I’m still bad? WTF?

    MGTOW Knight
    MGTOW Knight
    Participant

    Definitely straight out of Orwell’s 1984.

    This is nuts.

    We already know that the U.S. alphabet agencies were keeping tabs on us thanks to Snowden.

    Just imagine if they were finally permitted this level of personal intrusion.

    The fourth amendment will become a wash.

    That will be the day we all become slaves.

    Lulled into a false sense of security, only to be sealed by our technological fate.

    We will finally create the prison planet.

    We give up freedom to have the facade of safety.

    Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

    #679143

    In reply to: I HATE this month!


    Anonymous

    We all make too much fanfare over this.

    Too much.

    When I was a kid my father always took us outside for Christmas, Ice skating when I seven, Tobogganing. My uncle too, took us to get a tree, snowmobiling (we were a dealership for motoski/skidoo in the early 70s’). Took us to fly my brother’s 1st RC plane he purchased with matching funds from my dad. Sledding on Hippy Hill in the park one year, always outside!

    Our father’s were there for us before feminism took root giving women awesome powers over everything regarding family, children, men, the law, civil cohesion, and life itself through abortion.

    EVERYTHING IS NOW AN ABORTION!

    The ongoing fruits of feminism with gynocentrism:

    Fatherhood has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Family has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Childhood has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    The law has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Good public order has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Home has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Country and the definition thereof has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Sovereignty has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Independence has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Security has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    Prosperity has been destroyed under this destructive regime.

    MGTOW:

    INDESTRUCTIBLE!

    Sorry ladies, we don’t eat the fruits of feminism! You bit the apple, you eat it!

    God? What a joke.

    And for all those that will get p~~~ed off, WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

    I bet he’s not in your yard! Neither is anything else!

    You heard me support Thanksgiving and curse MGTOW members who did not. Christmas is different by all means. I curse that day from hell. I have much to be thankful for but I will do good to survive the three days after Christmas. It stared at the tree my wife and I put up and cursed it for days. Survival started when I started to take the tree down. Yea, I cried like a prison bitch because I was a blue pill Simp. It took my 54 years but I finally learned what a dumbs~~~ I was.

    Sparky, ya gotta put it all in the furnace before you can extract the MGTOW NFG GOLD!

    #679008
    Anonymousyam
    anonymousyam
    Participant

    Long story short, I am being falsely accused of child abuse. It’s a ploy to carve me out of my kids’ life.

    That is the bitches plan to begin with as it helps in divorce to make the claim.

    It does not matter if you win or lose you will spend possibly hundreds of thousands or even a few million dollars to fight the claim over many years so if you lose you have just wasted so much goddamn money and if you win who again knows what the f~~~ will happen to you. In the end you might just waste a few hundred grand and get supervised visitation with your kids once a month.

    In the end it is just one big s~~~ test against you and to win at this s~~~ test (it might be too late for you i do not know) is to state to your ex that you could not give a f~~~ about seeing your kids or what happens to them as women prey on your attachment to the kids to manipulate you. It is getting you hooked on a drug then taking it away from you and you must realize that.

    You must become content with the reality being you might never see your kids again and even thou while it will hurt for a while you just stop giving a f~~~ and get on with your personal mission (living life how you want to.

    And as a final thing (just my opinion) is that you should not care about the charges unless they risk imprisoning you. If these charges will throw you in prison then fight them to the death.

    We spent 3 hours in court to have a 6-minute say where the commissioner said “everything continues as it is”

    You just wasted 3 hours of your life to be f~~~ed over in 6. You could have been doing something better for yourself in that 3 hour time.

    anyway. I worry about what harm is being to him while he’s away from me, what’s being told to him, is she brainwashing him, etc.

    Kids are the biggest ones open to brainwashing thereby it is far likely to be happening and you must accept it (it is not that you enjoy it or would like it but rather it is happening and the system gives you no choice to stop it).

    The thing however is the hope that one day your kid will see through the brainwashing over time and continue onto his own personal mission in life as he gets older. Hopefully he will see that his mom is a worthless c~~~ however he now has his plans and his s~~~ he needs to get done thereby living the life to the best of his ability (the bulls~~~ he went through made him stronger).

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    This list changes often. I like to weed out the ‘sorry-ass’ movies and replace them with good ones. For example: ‘Flight of the Phoenix’ & ‘Birth’ will get moved to a secondary resting place because they both kind of suck. I do not return movies for a dollar, may as well keep them for that price. Also, I don’t return them because I throw away those normal size DVD black cases and use smaller cases. It saves five times as much space.

    Any additional recommendations will be useful thanks. I have acquired these mostly second hand, not new. So yes, there is much to be desired but you won’t find those at pawn shops and Movie Trading Co. I plan to add more but need recommendations because it will have to be a new purchase online.

    Space/Aliens
    Interstellar
    Oblivion
    Europa Report
    Mission to Mars
    Apollo 18
    Solaris (both)
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    The Abyss
    Alien
    Aliens
    Alien 3
    Alien Resurrection
    Prometheus
    Alien Covenant
    A.I.
    Sphere
    The Thing
    Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
    Predators
    Star Trek: Into Darkness
    Pitch Black
    Riddick
    Star Trek
    Contact

    Sci-Fi
    Sunshine
    Bladerunner
    Bladerunner 2049
    Ex Machina
    Zero Theorem
    Gattaca
    Live Die Repeat
    Chappie
    Elysium
    Apollo 13
    Logan’s Run
    Code 46
    12 Monkeys
    Time Crimes
    Cloud Atlas

    Heavily Artistic
    Faster Pussy Cat Kill Kill
    Watchmen
    Nebraska
    Beyond the Black Rainbow (terrible movie, don’t watch)
    Barton Fink
    Enemy
    Holy Motors
    The Future
    THX-1138
    A Clockwork Orange
    Under the Skin
    Muholland Dr. (also pretty s~~~ty film)

    Comedy
    The Life Aquatic
    The Big Lebowski
    Kelly’s Heroes
    Escape from LA
    Dark Star
    Charlie Wilson’s War
    Family Guy: The Empire Strikes Back
    Moon
    Cast Away
    Color Me Kubrick
    Being John Malkovich
    Thank You for Smoking
    Planet Terror
    Alien Autopsy
    The Men Who Stare at Goats
    Forbidden Planet
    The Time Machine
    Barbarella

    Horror
    Delicatessen
    Moon Trap
    Death Proof
    Ravenous
    It Follows
    10 Cloverfield Lane
    Cloverfield
    What Lies Beneath
    The Shining
    Silence of the Lambs
    Hannibal
    Red Dragon
    The Brood (really weird old movie)

    Asian
    Akira
    Enter the Dragon
    Hero
    Ikiru
    Tokyo Drift
    Final Fantasy: Spirits Within

    Children’s
    Time Bandits
    Lost in Space
    Super 8
    The Fall
    Lady in the Water

    Action
    Mission Impossible 1-5
    Batman Begins
    Minority Report
    Snatch
    The Way of the Gun
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    Skyfall
    Spectre
    The Right Stuff
    Water World
    Inception
    The Jackal
    Body of Lies
    The Edge
    Crimson Tide
    Flight of the Phoenix

    Drama
    Gomorrah
    Leviathan (Russian) great movie
    Master and Commander
    Lawrence of Arabia
    The Lives of Others
    The American Friend
    Ripley’s Game
    Talented Mr. Ripley
    Adam Resurrected
    The Aviator
    Stalker (Russian)
    The Sunset Limited
    The Mirror (Russian)
    American Hustle
    Donnie Darko
    The Prestige
    Sanctum
    In the Electric Mist
    Out of the Furnace
    Valhalla Rising
    Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
    Shutter Island
    The Girl w/ Dragon Tattoo (starring Daniel Craig)
    Eyes Wide Shut
    Barry Lyndon
    Dr. Strangelove
    Birth
    Fightclub
    The Following

    War
    Saving Private Ryan
    Inglorious Bastards
    The Thin Red Line
    Valkyrie
    The Big Red One
    Full Metal Jacket
    The Frontline

    Western
    The Assassination of Jessie James by the Coward R. Ford.
    True Grit (both)
    There Will be Blood
    The Proposition
    Rover
    3:10 to Yuma (both)
    The Homesman
    Django
    No Country for Old Men

    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    Hello y’all I’m new to this and was introduced to it by my homeboy. Man do I wish I founded this site a year ago. I recently left my gf of overall 12 years dating and known her for 14 years. We were high school sweethearts and basically pretty much the only girl I’ve been with on a serious level. We had a 3 year split from 07-10 and those were the best 3 years of my life.

    Turned 21 in that time frame and till I was 23 spent a lot of time working out working hard and playing hard and crushing ass and going to school for medical. Couldn’t ask for a better life, then all of a sudden my blue pill ass goes off and do something stupid. She returns back into my life and I see she’s struggling and I can’t seem to help myself but wanting to help her because that’s the kind of guy I am, one that help those in need and put others before me(oh how naive I was).

    She just got kicked out of her own home cuz of her low key pill popping heavy drinking mother. We got close again and next thing you know with a blink of the eye we’re back together she’s crashing at my place and I’m back in it. Don’t get me wrong it was great we connected again like nothing has happened and next thing you know a few months later We get an apartment with another roommate.

    I found myself now reflecting back in my stupidity and foolish ideologies (the institution of a devoted man working and providing for his woman/ and or family especially driven and beaten in the minds of Hispanic men especially those not born here in America like myself) that I thought were the “right thing to do” I literally been helping her off her feet since she came back into my life. Ive tried to get her high paying jobs with good benefits and she at one point worked with me in the medical field and got her a very well paying office job but somehow never found the drive to do better and or really stay in the job, she always found a way to bitch and complain about the jobs I’ve found her, it sucked because I needed help in paying bills and expenses.

    I’ve not only put down the asphalt and pave the way myself for her to be in good position It was greeted with negativity and was unappreciated of the efforts I did for her, I endured this for close to 7 years in that time frame we got engaged and were engaged for 3 years and no wedding plans were ever made nor she put any effort to do so. Eventually her lack of trying will continue on and eventually she would spiral downwards and find herself doing small part time jobs just so she can pay her own bills and leave me with pretty much everything else.

    I started being frustrated and annoyed by her hippie mentality of carefree living when it’s on my expense. I went as far as buying her a nice little sedan because the job she was doing was that of third party delivery service of medical supplies for hospitals. I should probably mention she’s one of those girls that have nothing but guy friends, I started to resent her for the fact I’m literally carrying the relationship and I couldn’t bring my lame ass to leave her because I was afraid of being alone and leaving her stranded.

    I started to pursue my passion in art( I’ve been an artist since a kid just never made anything of it)and landed a tattoo apprenticeship and learned the hard way that an apprenticeship means sacrificing just about everything especially money. So I worked an overnight job just to keep my artistic aspirations alive and still have a roof over our heads and hoped that my gf would help. NOPE! She only worked for herself and when she did lend a hand on some bills it was followed with nagging and bitching.

    I resented her even more and for a year this went on while I was still apprenticing and all my money reserves were just about depleted and I’m still scraping by. We stopped having sex for months probably more than 6 months in that year and she started not sleeping with me in the bedroom instead she’ll sleep in the living room because she started to have her bum guy best friend over a lot more than usual and they will constantly smoke weed and watch tv late into the night and get this he’ll sleep over a lot but yet I never said anything about it despite me feeling not all right about it(I’m a sucker).

    I think I gave up on her and us that I just didn’t give a f~~~ anymore, some of y’all probably shaking your heads right now and I don’t blame ya. She brought the idea of an open relationship via text and somehow I agreed to it (what the f~~~ am I doing?) One month passed in this new relationship status and I noticed she was in more chipper moods and starting seeing things in the bedroom I didn’t want to see like open boxes of condoms inside her night stand drawer( we’ve never used condoms) and a specific bag that had a few vibrators that she would carelessly leave on the floor, one of the rules was that we had was don’t bring no one home so I knew she wasn’t doing this at the apartment(so I thought).

    Don’t get me wrong I did my part got some oral from some thot one time out of the month but nothing more than that,unfortunately my apprenticeship was still consuming my life. I came to the realization that this isn’t right and so I sat her down and we had a long talk and I broke things off and agreed that I would be out in a few weeks while I get myself situated.

    So really just a few days after being broken up I come to find out or is a strong speculation that the guy she’s been hooking up with was/is and still is her best friend. This f~~~er who is the male version of her in terms of a bum and worked part time job and still lives at home and does nothing but drink and smoke weed with her.

    I came to find out that my speculation were on point because one day I came back home just after leaving for 2 hours to go to the shop I came back to pick up some designs for a tattoo I had, later that day and I wanted to be ready for. I go into the living room and they were just waking up or w.e(on different couches) and to my surprise guess what I see on the floor yup the bag with vibrators and a s~~~ ton of batteries on the coffee table.

    I held in my rage and swallowed my pride(f~~~ing whyyyy) I went into the bedroom and sat there trying to process what I just saw during this time. The dude left and when she came in is when I called her out on it, and her response was to cry and tell me she has no privacy in the house hold because I am in the bedroom and she’s in the living room. So her only resort is to pleasure herself in the same room as her bestie??? Lol give me a f~~~ing break! She stormed out and didn’t return till that night.

    I called my boss that day and told him I wasn’t coming back I grabbed all my s~~~ and left. Moved in with my brother and his wife and my baby nephew. I felt emptiness and absolutely nothing like a void no tears no nothing I felt like a machine with no f~~~s about what just happened.

    I spent 2 weeks apart and in that time I went through the post breakup glow up as they call it. I should mention at this point in my career I’m starting to establish myself as an artist and starting to make money at the shop like stupid money. I use this new cash flow and change my wardrobe and start dressing like the suave mother f~~~er I used to dress like when I was 23 but of course I’m still in the stages of not recognizing my emotional state.

    Despite the new flow of income and looking good and feeling good I did another stupid thing, got involved with a female I met through my sister. This one was different she was very independent and did just fine on her own, is a teacher and works closely with special needs children and was to good to be true, beautiful soul and heart and very smart.

    We dated for 2 months and treated me like a king, cooked for me and checked in on me always told me she missed me and sent me cute messages made me want to do everything for her. I took her out a lot and treated her to nice day getaways and even took her on a nice weekend getaway just cause we’ve both been swamped with work and needed a well deserved breather.

    She would constantly remind me she wasn’t used to this kind of treatment as she has dealt with real s~~~ty relationship and we shared similar stories of the last relationship we were in. Oh finally a woman that gets me and shares similar pain. With all good things there’s a catch, hers was dealing with sever depression. She warned me about it just a week or so into us dating but she seemed to always have it in control(oh how naive of me) for the most part we were on the same page and as to what our goals are and where we want to head in life and what we’re looking for in a partner.

    Turns out her depression gets worse in the winter and I just so happen to pick the perfect time for it. I got iced out for a few days after we just spent an awesome Halloween weekend together and all of a sudden I go from receiving I miss you texts and can’t wait to see you to ice cold silence and like that of a switch she turned herself off to me. She came to the conclusion a few days later she is not in the right state of mind to continue a relationship until she can over come her depression and finally start looking for professional help as she always dealt with it on her own.

    She also felt we were going fast but yet she never voiced it until it was too late. I, like that blue pill guy I was starting to become again have that tendency to somehow always want to support the females in trouble and care for them. For some reason I wanted to make it work but we had a long talk and agreed we are better off apart for which was good for both our mental health as that s~~~ is emotionally draining. It sucks because she really was a good chick to me but I still feel she wasn’t ready for me mental condition or not.

    I’ve seen this pattern before where every time a good guy comes into his life a woman who’s always been miss treated will retreat and get freaked out by the fact there still good dudes out there so they curve us. I just think she just wasn’t ready to head down that path and isn’t done dating and seeing her options of men(again mental condition or not). It’s been a month since we last saw each other and I’m trying to stay away as much as possible but I see her doing good for herself in social media outlets and it makes all my assumption right about her.

    It sucks because when I met her was through my sister and we are all part of the same friends group so I’m always going to see her in any gatherings or parties or in other friends post with her in it and I can’t take down my social media as that’s what I use for my work. I don’t really want to block her as we really didn’t date too long and it seems petty to do so.

    I don’t want to give her the satisfaction that she “broke” me and I that I couldn’t stand to see her do good. She still will text me here and there to let me know she’s doing ok or see how I’m doing and usually I give her short answers and cut the conversation short I’m not getting sucked in to that again and I’m fine with it because I’m an adult and we can move on without making it weird during gatherings.

    Really at this point I just want to remain friends. Which honestly gents brings me to the best path I’ve chosen in a long time and the one that makes sense. To channel back the young 23 year old self( I’m 30 now) and pick back up the suave mother f~~~er I was. I was awoken by this last chick, I was a sucker and I can’t believe I let my stupid ideologies of being a good man with morals and the need to start a family take over my very existence.

    I spent 2 weeks in blue pill hell after this last chick because that finally opened up the flood gates to everything that has happened to me and I spent the 2 weeks processing and grieving the situations and thinking about where did I go wrong? Why did I fail? Why didn’t I try harder why didn’t I listen to the signs what kind of man am I? Then my mentor who not only taught me the craft turned out to be my life mentor as well gave me the best tough love and real talk about women and life of the red pill man.

    I awoken from my slumber and realized I was chasing an out dated institution that has held us back for too many years. My best friend who also helped me out of my slump showed me the way of the MGTOW and my lord that 23 year old spirit in me has finally awoken and I feel amazing I realized my worth and I have so much to loose by chasing women who will never in return pull their own weight and or never see a good dude in front of them because we’re “too nice” and or “your mr. right just not right now” and so be it.

    It’s time for affirmative action and I will set the stage for who is allowed in my world. I make killer money and art and dress sharply so they will come to me and I will spin them like plates as I’ve done in my Early 20s. It’s been a month since that last relationship and man since then I’ve completed my apprenticeship and booked flights to Cali for a convention in which we will be a part of. Also booked a flight to Austin Texas right after that for a vacation and I increased my workouts.

    I’m feeling hella better and looking better, pockets are deeper since I ain’t splurging on ungrateful women and it’s only going up from here. This website has shined a light to my stupidity and I’m grateful to have read that I wasn’t alone or the only one who’ve done stupid s~~~ like this or close or worse to it and that there’s always a positive outcome and realization of pure awesomeness Thanks for reading my intro. Salúd gents!

    Sorry I had to fix some of the run on sentences and put paragraphs in to be able to read it please don’t take it personal.

    As for your story thanks for sharing glad to see you learned something from these experiences you had. Remember women will try to trap you it is in their nature so I would recommend if you are going to continue to have sex use a condom at all times.

    There is an epidemic of STD’s and you don’t want to catch what these women most likely have. Also if you don’t plan on ever having kids look into getting a vasectomy for further protection.

    As for the ex you are still thinking about remember it was only your turn she never really loved you. Women like her love to ride the c~~~ carousel and she just used her mental health as an excuse to jump off your ride and get onto another guy. Women like her can’t go without a man for to long and the more damaged they are the more drama they try to seek out to drain their host of their energy like a parasite.

    You dodged a bullet brother keep doing what you are doing good things are ahead now that you can see with red pill lenses on. Welcome to your new superhero power and remember to thank your MGTOW friend with a beer.

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