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  • #848006
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    It does appear that some regular posters have been lost.

    Shame, but I’m not worried about it, because we have work to do.
    Maybe they will come back when we’re done.

    You know what I like about the forums now?
    They are peaceful.

    It’s not really surprising, because when they speculate and rumor about how I got married or got a girlfriend and I suddenly tossed everything away to be with her …. well , its totally ridiculous, isn’t it?

    THEY: “KEYMASTER WAS ABDUCTED AND FINGERED BY ALIENS, WORKS FOR THE CIA, GOT A GIRLFRIEND AND GOT MARRIED!!!”

    ME: “Hello and good afternoon. We finally fixed the login probs….”

    THEY: “Oh. … ok…. um… I’ll just leave then.”

    ( lol )

    My worries were real since rumors sometimes are truths. Especially since we MGTOW are constantly exposed to banning, doxxing and trolling. We are worried about the security of a site like this.

    ^^ THAT! ^^

    The hosting company actually watches it 24/7 ….. FOR us.
    For more than a year now. And so we don’t have to.

    This is one of the things paying members actually pay for. To keep it going on a base level. I don’t want to get into this topic now but the set up is excellent. We’re even planning a 4th upgrade / move before year’s end. We’re probably gonna need it.

    And I also noticed it getting slower each month.

    About 2-4 weeks ago, we worked with a team to boost the site speed and make the DB more efficient. BIG improvement. But yes it was getting bloated – which was ANOTHER problem. And the error logs filled up …. so I made the declaration the new site has to have NO ERRORS , WARNINGS or NOTICES in the syntax, or we will stay up until the error is removed.

    …. and while I am fixing that problem, rumors fly that I’m getting married.

    But then the rumors began and I became worried about the work we invested here by writing 1000’s of threads and posts. And saving our writings suddenly became an A-task, keeping me busy.

    We can always export that and give it to you directly so don’t put yourself through that kind of stress. But the whole site is already backed up in 3 places. Most importantly, we need to maintain high-value discourse in the forums or they won’t BE worth saving.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #847904
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I do empathize with the desire for information, however. Updates are always nice. I would assume Keymaster has a normal life that requires his attention just like the rest of us and it’s taking up personal time.

    I suppose I should start here. I found myself “hamster wheeling”. And when you find yourself “hamster wheeling” and getting nowhere, you gotta stop doing it and rework some s~~~ or you’re going to continue to get nowhere.

    2018 saw a major change with regards to my/our other obligations. They got huge very quickly in a way – meaning ultra important. But I am limited in my ability to tell you about them. I got so busy, I made myself sick. Very sick. It wasn’t worth it. You know I was out for about 6 weeks and I was totally uninterested in ANYTHING but getting better.

    The hamster wheeling was (in part) keeping this place running with so many bulls~~~ fixes, dealing with trolls, and all the petty stuff. I lost my s~~~ with all the spammers, dating site morons signing up, and reports of trolls, I finally realized if I continue to pay attention to it, NOTHING will get done.

    I/we have wanted to do it all over again for at least two years because it was getting impossible to manage and I didn’t even LIKE it. So we began construction on an all-new everything by building another website which is unrelated. All from scratch.

    And why build ONE when you can build TWO for twice the work?

    ( I want to avoid sounding like I’m making excuses here because that’s not my intent.)

    I hate doing anything out of “obligation”, but MGTOW.com is not an “obligation” and I never wanted it to be. When it becomes an obligation, it looses all its appeal. I have enough “obligations” already and if this becomes another one, It’s not going to be enjoyable. And I need to love it.

    I started to think
    (and I am sharing this with you)…

    “Don’t tell me I need to be in the forums every day in order for this to work. I’m not MGTOW. I’m just one man. Whatever needs to be done, I should be able to leave for a month or two if necessary to take care of other s~~~ – or chill on a beach for two weeks. Thats “going your own way”. And if I can’t do that, then something needs to be done so that I CAN do that. This isn’t Wells Fargo. This isn’t the White House. The place should continue to function without me. and if it can’t, lets MAKE it so that it can. But how???”

    Thinking out loud even further …..
    (this is difficult to put into words )

    If the website is going to “go down” ( or die in an overall sense) because of s~~~ty over-all attitudes , petty drama, and junk fights and screaming fits – simply because I/admins and mods are not here – then something is wrong. If other MGTOW kill it, then maybe it deserves to die.

    I (or someone) can build it. But if just one man’s non-presence is required for it to go on, then s~~~ needs to be done differently. So rebuilding it will hopefully “free” me in a way and assign management to ANYONE who wants to be a part of it. Wouldn’t that be nice? To GIVE it more to the community???

    Wouldn’t it be nice to build in the ability to allow MGTOW to grow the site themselves? It should be set up to GROW – not die or fizzle out because one man isn’t here. Thats’ just not right. I don’t want to be THAT important to the site that it will die if I die. As I was sick, these thoughts were going through my head.

    So I devised an overall plan to do this – somehow. I think it’s gonna work too. We’re just gonna need everyone to come together and agree on ONE thing even if we disagree on everything else….. That this place is not gonna die. Or even better, that it’s gonna live and rock on.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #847807
    L. Euler
    L. Euler
    Participant

    The acid test of hashtag me too backfiring is when normal men don’t want a date without a video camera (for self defence).
    As we are all aware that alpha f~~~s and beta bucks, those who are “Beta bucks” finally realize their fate. Even if they marry she will still f~~~ alpha. We aren’t spending our money!!
    Beta bucks who studied hard and long for what they do, finally and inevitably realize they are not going to blow their hard won beta bucks on cupcake, because she can’t balance a cheque book.This inability leads to more arguments even than infidelity, follow the money… you find the problem that “cupcake” is spending beyond her and your means.

    My “EX” has never declared the money I paid her for “support” (which is really extortion) on her tax return; I didn’t impute any money that she earned from her working a job, “support”…Cupcake just can’t make a “go’ of it on $7,160 per month of undeclared income and she still can’t by…. WTF!!!
    Family support services records me as a “deadbeat dad”….get this … I quietly made each “abused” child (not abuse by me either) a millionaire… while being officially recorded as a “deadbeat dad” For F’sakes ….she didn’t even file!! Priceless, now I’m a “deadbeat dad”…there is no end to the way she goes through currency.
    For Child abuse, she belongs in the slammer alongside Paul Bernardo. Instead, she has a paid off house (except “cupcake went through a second mortgage to finance her extravagance) while I had zip. (as in ‘homeless’ and no place to live)
    In the USA, a man would go to jail for being “in arrears”. I’m Canadian so they haven’t “followed -up”.

    I’m Canadian and have a friend in Saudi Arabia who will get me a working visa so I can screw off if the situation gets crazy…..Thank God I know the Saudi Arabian Royal Family …I will finally get a Sharia Law divorce, even if I’m not a Muslim.
    Amazing, one thing I agree with though. The children should be the property of the man… because men do not hold visitation by the “ex” in contempt the same way women do to men.
    I would never ever restrict my “ex” from visiting her kids, even though I’d have to hire a supervisor because SHE is the child abuser.(not me)
    So, for this, Sharia Law works.

    Canada and Saudi have a diplomatic spat because of an idiotic tweet by some feminist Liberal (Christine Freeland). What an idiot!! I had arranged with Saudi Royalty to build a hospital for women’s care in Ridyah, because Saudi’s are p~~~ed off that all the good western doctors are going to Doha, Qatar and Dubai. Now they’ve pulled all Saudi assets out of Canada, shipped the students (pawns in this game) elsewhere.
    Their stupid tweet screwed up Saudi women’s care bigtime!!
    I’ve got better odds of solving this than our “diplomats”….who cares if they can speak French … they are business clods!!

    For all the bad things America says about Trump get this …he’s in “good” with MBS (Mohammed bin Salman) and he will build him a palace and that’s not the end of it ….he will build an encapsulated city like Dubai….guess what guys …..America is working again!!!
    Love him or hate him Trump has NOT spent $ on stupid wars and America has to get over this Russian ‘meddling”; the world doesn’t care; don’t blow any more on lawyers….pay your debts.
    Putin and Trump are ‘chummy’ because in 1996 Putin loaned Trump $450M since USA banks wouldn’t cough up the $. This means Trump ‘owes’ Putin. But no matter, Putin bombs, Trumps a builder… perfect .. it’s all good for business… they will never have a war !!!
    Putin wanted Crimea so Gazpro wouldn’t have a competing Ukraine pipeline checkmating Azerbajan and Georgia from shipping oil; Turkey won’t build a competing pipeline in exchange for Russian arms to fight the Kurds. (presto gazpro a monopoly) I know this from someone who worked for Imperial oil, was once imprisoned in Siberia and guess what –he came to Canada as an immigrant—and we sent him back to Siberia where he as an engineer found 100M worth of oil, not even two km from where he was once imprisoned! Gazpro of course kicked them all out and took all the $$$. They left with their lives and Canada won’t be doing any oil business with Russia anymore.. (d’ya think)
    Re: Saudi:
    Canada blew it big-time fighting for some ‘activist’ (activist – do these people have real jobs?)
    I have a real job , a real plan, and I can bail Canada out of this diplomatic mess, (but I don’t want to bother) until they realize the left has gone too far and that all men are pariahs in this country….best place to live …not if you are a divorced male. I think not.

    L. Euler

    #847549
    Swimcat
    Swimcat
    Participant

    Hey MGTOWERS I’m finally back. In more ways than one. During the time we were down I was first in California and then in Oregon. The heat and the fires ran me out of there. I was back packing near Yosemite and had to run for my life from a fire. I wasn’t in real danger but I would have been had I stayed put. I had planned to stay camping out west till October. I came back home two weeks ago. My kids were worried about me.

    #847325

    Anonymous

    You announced your plans?

    Sorry, didn’t see your question till now (a couple weeks later). Anyway:

    Yeah, definitely. They kept changing up their story on the nature of the problem, and finally I told them, “What are you, 10 years old that you keep changing your story with each new email?” I told them to quit bugging me or I would sell and move away. I don’t think they took me seriously. When they came back with a new BS story, I just said, “I can’t take any more of this silliness. I’m out of here. I’m talking to a realtor on Monday.”

    So now it’s a couple weeks later and I’ve already signed a lease on a new apartment down south, and I’ve got a “for sale” sign on my lawn and had a bunch of showings of the house already.

    #846955

    In reply to: MGTOW and GOD

    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    You want to end this debate because the truth always wins against evil. Not surprising since you tried to pull the same stunt like this a month ago. I will be posting 3 long posts on this topic so please have patience with me and I apologize for the wall of text. When it comes to God I have to refute what is being said by this person.

    The Pope again

    G.O.A.T almost made the exact talking points on page two of this thread like you did in the thread I linked above so let me repost what I wrote to save on time by pasting here what we said in the other thread.

    The baphomet is a symbolic figure to me, I do not worship something that doesn’t exist.The baphomet to me, represent darkness, rebellious nature, lover of life, lustful, and above all, free will.

    Just because i don’t accept your God, doesn’t make me a low-life. No, I’m a free thinker, who does his will, who doesn’t believe in a greater authority.

    Like you I have free will you can do as you wish and I can do as I wish. It is easy to go around and living life with no consequences anyone can do that. Having restraint and a understanding of what God expects of you is not a prison but a blessing. No one said you are a low-life what I said was low quality meaning you behave in a manor suited to people who tend to be liars, selfish to the point where it hurts others as an example. For me a low life would be a criminal in every sense of the word. Not sure if you are lying or ignorant but I will prove my point as you continue to read.

    I don’t believe in your God, because of his murderous ways, not because of “false prophets”.

    Your God flooded the earth, killing millions upon millions of people, including innocent kids and animals. After that, the murderer regretted his actions.

    Above is false and I am not sure if you are trying to lie to fit your narrative or if you are ignorant.

    Genisis 6:5

    And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD

    The only thing God regretted as you can see in the bolded text that he made man to begin with. He never regretted the flood or removing those who were wicked. You will not find any reference in the King James Version of the Bible that claims he regretted removing anyone. You call it murder you don’t understand how God views us at all. God created us and has the power to remove or correct his creations because he has the right to do so. If a robot goes berserk and does everything against its creators wishes does the maker of the robot become a murder because he decides to shut it off or remove it from existence? Everyone dies eventually does that mean God is a murderer for allowing for every human to eventually die?

    If god was such a murder why did he not just kill the entire human race and be done with it? Why are we here today talking if God was evil as you claim. Even after his creation rebelled against his wishes God chose to give us a second chance and we failed him again.

    There is a difference between murder and killing. If someone is about to be killed and defends himself by killing someone is he considered a murderer too? Is the hangman who puts a murderer to death for his crime guilty of murder too? If a man or a woman who is being raped in prison and is able to kill his attacker is he guilty of murder too? These are just some examples of those who are guilty may deserve a death sentence. People get away with these acts all the time and God sees everything he is the final judge and executioner of his creations. Here is a good example of why God kills instead of murders. Link.

    He killed 80,000 soldiers, because King David numbered the enemies forces. Yet, David lived. He wiped about 6 figures of innocent people because a King sinned.

    The figure was not 80k it has been debated and scholars can’t agree between the figure but rough estimate is between 50 to 70 thousand. Nowhere in the bible will you find that God killed “innocent” people at least not in the King James version. Here let me do the work for you here is a link where you can educate yourself where the words killing and innocent can be found in the entire bible.

    God condemned an assortment of Israelite soldiers to death he didn’t kill all 800 thousand “valiant men that drew the sword” after the census was complete because not all of them were guilty and he knew exactly what he was doing.

    The son of Elijah, a prophet, was walking, and some kids made fun of his hair style, and he cursed them in the name of God. Your beloved God sent two she-bears, who devoured them, and ripped them to pieces.

    Elijah never had a son what you meant to say was his pupil Elisha. That story can be better explained here and here. You have to understand during the times in the Old Testament it was a grievous sin to mock God and people would be stoned to death for doing it and if not God would take care of them.

    God killed every first born son in Egypt, because pharaoh didn’t want to free the Israelites. Funny thing, HE, HARDEN the heart of pharaoh, to not let go of his people. He murdered innocent children just so he show off his power.

    Yeah lets skip the fact that the Pharaoh killed every Hebrew boy. All of them not just the first born where as god only killed Egypt’s first born not ALL. Ex. 1:22. God sent ten plagues (10 chances) for the Pharaoh to change his ways and free the slaves who were Gods people but instead the Pharaoh continued to mock God and his followers and let people around him die. How many chances did Pharaoh give to the Hebrew people before their son’s were put to death? Answer is none.

    There are many interpretations to the events but here are two different angles to look at.

    Exodus 12:23

    God did not kill the first born instead “the destroyer” did.

    This link is a good read and ties in well as to Gods motivation. Remember God was willing to give up is firstborn son Jesus to save us all God is not the only one that escaped this fate as he dies cruelly on the cross.

    But, I’m the low-life for not bowing down before such evil entity? Lucifer on the other hand, freed mankind from God’s slavery.

    I would rather worship Lucifer with all my heart, then to honor your God.

    Does not surprise me you brought up Lucifer in this argument. Luciferians are taught these talking points and it also doesn’t surprise me they are filled with lies and not truthful when you start to pick them apart. Add your avatar picture and name and you get a complete picture of what you truly believe in. But keep saying you are free thinking and don’t follow any religion (even though you have religious evil idol in your name and avatar). Yeah we will take your word for it but who am I to judge live your life anyway you want.

    No one is telling you to honor God or any other entity you can choose what you want to do with your life be an atheist or a Luciferian for all I care but when you call out God as evil it is my duty to defend him because he talks through all of his worshippers. Religious organizations have become corrupted with evil not God that is Satan’s plan and it is working judging by the way you are reacting to this.
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    People have killed millions, upon millions in the name of “God”, then shifts their atrocities towards “Satan”. Beheading, bombing, and all type of evil, was done in the name of religion, thus, God.

    You are assuming to know the motives behind millions of evil peoples thoughts? The current Pope hides behind the cloak of religion and calls himself Christian yet he is a Luciferian like yourself. If he was to call a holy war against another religion would it be at the behest of God, Lucifer or for his own gain and motives? Don’t look at what a man says but instead look at what he does.

    People have used religion as an excuse to fulfill their agenda for thousands of years it doesn’t mean God commanded every single person to do so. Lucifer and God have been at war since the start don’t put all the blame on God alone for the devil is the deceiver just like you in this thread now. You say you hate religion yet have said you are Luciferian and keep spouting how great he is and how he freed you from Gods bonds. No instead he put you in a prison and you will soon find out just how deceived you were when your time comes to pass from this mortal realm. You haven’t learned from history and neither have those who are taking up your cause to try to convert people to the dark side.

    Let’s take a look at the Bible.

    God flooded the earth, killing millions upon millions of innocent men, women, childrens, animal, and infants.

    Another lie. Man and every person on earth was utterly evil and corrupted except for Noah and the 7 people he brought on the arc.

    Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. All flesh, meaning every living thing on earth and guess who played a large role in that? Lucifer and his fallen angles.

    A closer look as to why the flood occurred can be found here.

    God wiped out a whole city because they were homosexuals. Lot was considered “holy”, yet got drunk, and got f~~~ed by his two daughters.

    God wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah for many sins. There is a debate among scholars as to homosexuality being the main cause of their destruction. Here are two interpretations that can be found on this subject.

    Link 1 and Link 2.

    Regardless of what the main reason was God is very clear that homosexuality is an abomination and just because it has become normalized in our world today does not mean it is moral in Gods eyes. Did you guys know that Luciferians practice sexual magic and try to gain spiritual power through intercourse? They even have books written about it here is one example. Luciferian Tantra & Sex Magick.

    By the way Lucifer and Satan are the same being never forget that. Here is a link to what Satanist and by extension Luciferians do when among their covens. Link. Luciferians will argue they are not apart of Satanism and they are different religion but no they are so similar like the various reformations that took place in Christendom that the differences do not make it a completely new religion.

    As for Lot and his two daughters there is a good read that can be found here. Lot was not “Holy” as you put it although God did see him as a righteous man. Remember Lot just lost his wife after she turned to look at Sodom and was turned to a pillar of salt. He was grief stricken and morning. His daughters wanted to commit incest with Lot because they thought he was the only man left on Earth. They found him at his weakest point and got him drunk and had sex with him. Typical female behavior they wanted to get pregnant where have we seen that in todays world? If you read the link they don’t paint Lot in a good picture he chose to get drunk so he is partially to blame after all he is human and not some divine saint you paint him out to be.

    God killed his wife because she looked back…God killed every first born in Egypt, because pharaoh didn’t want to free his people, yet, he’s the one who heartened Pharaoh’s heart.

    God killed 80,000 soldiers, because David sinned, yet David lived, but others lost their life.God sent two she-bears to devour, and eat a couple of kids, because they ridiculed a prophet.

    Already covered in previous post above you have same taking points I debunked everything already yet you still continue with your lies. You cannot battle the truth or God as both always win.

    #846359

    This is all from someone else’s battle with this very real
    mentally debilitating condition.

    SECRET CANON 1 ATTORNEY GENERAL AND PUBLIC DEFENDER

    1 Prosecutorial Discretion
    1(A) We hold the prudent practice of “see, hear and speak no evil” essential as related to the office of the Attorney General [secretly called the “power structure’s Mafia”]. Therefore:

    1(A)(i) We hold the latitude we give the Public Defender’s office compensates for any inequality of justice or prosecutorial misconduct and
    1(A)(ii) We ignore the practice of overcharging by the Attorney General regardless of how many are forced into false admissions or plea bargains.
    1(A)(iii) We hold overcharging can assist bar members with revenue enhancement and improves efficiency by reducing demands for jury trials and we shall not consider
    any guidelines stating otherwise or
    the devastation in the lives of those so affected.
    1(A)(iv) Since it is the job of the Attorney General to “get” people, any means they use to do so is acceptable since they are the will and voice of the people.
    1(A)(v) If the Attorney General’s Office violates laws, rules or ethics while “getting” people then let the trial process sort it out. To hell with the following:
    those who can’t afford effective counsel, a trial or those having a Public Defender and
    those who get a Judge skilled in the use of judicial discretion who covers up or ignores prosecutorial misconduct citing “judicial efficiency” and the “duty of the state.”
    1(A)(vi) Having a bold aggressive Attorney General is of greater benefit to Society than any possible damage to individual life and liberty.

    1(B) Public Defender

    1(B)(i) The importance we place on justice can always be measured by the amount of resources given the Public Defender in proportion to the amount of resources given the Attorney General.
    1(B)(ii) Under staffing and under funding of the Public Defender:
    enhances Judicial efficiency and eases the court calendar by promoting plea bargains, suicides, breakdowns, despair, fleeing etc. and
    can give us more bang for our buck by turning the Public Defender into an extension of the Attorney General’s office and
    can demonstrate effective use of the “good cop (Public Defender)” “bad cop (Attorney General)” scenario and
    can assist members of the bar with property acquisition and other revenue enhancements.
    1(B)(iii) Any uncooperative Public Defender making an issue of judicial or prosecutorial misconduct or ethics violations shall be removed as quickly as possible.

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    2(A) Confident Litigants
    Any litigant appearing confident can be baffled by minutia or Judicially enhanced procedural criteria.
    2(B) Judicial Dominance
    Occasionally we encounter a litigant who doesn’t know we are king. We hold the following tools effective in forcing a resistant litigant into submission:

    intimidation by any means
    condescending looks, gestures or comments
    expressing or instigating anger, outrage or shock
    obvious impatience
    rushing the proceedings
    frequent checks of the time
    cautionary glances toward the Bailiff
    appearing distressed or uncomfortable like one needing to go to the bathroom
    yelling the magic word “NEXT!”
    raising unrelated, irrelevant or confusing issues and
    loud bangs using the gavel.

    2(C) The Need For Attorneys
    We shall continue to stress the need to have an Attorney without addressing the fact the overwhelming majority of Americans can not afford them. This is effective in keeping the unresourceful and ineffective at bay.
    2(D) The Ultimate Authority
    Citizens must be continually led to believe that the Judiciary is the final or ultimate authority in our system of Government.
    2(E) Practice Of Law Forbidden
    We shall try as best we can to confuse clarifying issues with our inability to give advice. This makes us less apt to stick our foot in our mouth.
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    We shall never appear insincere when stating absurdities, untruths, mistruths or nonsense. We shall always act like the hearer is unknowledgeable, naive or unseasoned.
    2(G) Judicial Fairness
    We shall always remember when deciding the significance of an individual to consider money, connections, power, politics and the ability to get media attention in deciding how fair we need to be.
    2(H) Judicial Response To Criticism
    We forever hold the response to valid or invalid criticism should be indignance.
    2(I) Judicial Efficiency
    We hold instigating outrage, frustration, anger or other emotions in litigants can be an effective tool to rid ourselves of the unwanted litigant.
    2(J) Judicial Handling Of The Ignorant
    The client demanding Justice and the full respect of their rights shall be treated with pity and patience.
    2(K) Judicial Authority
    Due to the authoritative nature of black robes, we shall continue to resist their removal.

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    3(A) Efficiency Of Experts
    We hold one of the greatest innovations for eliminating ineffective and unresourceful litigants is the ever expanding use of expert testimony.
    3(B) Evolution Of Experts
    This innovation will reach maturity when we routinely use levels of experts on experts to testify on the validity and expertise of each expert.

    SECRET CANON 4 JUDICIAL AND PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION

    4(A) Discretion Defined
    We maintain judicial and prosecutorial discretion is doing whatever we damn well please within the judicially prudent guidelines we happen to be following at the time.
    4(B) Review Of Discretionary Acts
    We shall never promulgate awareness of the real legal issue regarding the use and review of judicial and prosecutorial discretion which is the process of reasoning used in the discretionary act’s decision making process. We shall convert the process of reasoning argument into an argument regarding the validity of doing or not doing the discretionary act.

    SECRET CANON 5 JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT

    5(A) Oversight Immunity
    The immunity of everyone overseeing the Judiciary must be maintained to prevent witch hunts and the overzealous from affecting the independence of the Judiciary. The Judiciary does not require the vulnerable or corrective oversight of the masses.
    5(B) Judicial Objectivity
    We shall always remember the real symbolic reason behind the woman with the blindfold and scale. Objectivity and independence means remaining as blind as possible to wrong doing committed by the Judiciary, members of the bar, and the resourceful and effective.
    5(C) Judicial Self-Evaluation
    To maintain the independence of the Judiciary, we hold each others rulings to be legally and factually correct regardless of the injustice that results, the facts or the law.
    5(D) Judicial Opinions Of Judges
    To insure effective oversight of the Judiciary, we shall never criticize each other regardless of the severity of the wrong or the injustice.
    5(E) Trust Us, We’re Judges
    We hold self monitoring and absolute immunity as foolhardy, ineffective and unworkable for everyone except the Judiciary and judicial oversight committees.
    5(F) Judicial Job Performance
    To allows us to remain unconcerned about upsetting the status quo, we shall keep the public convinced their interference will negatively affect the independence of the Judiciary making Judges afraid to do their jobs.
    5(G) The Judicial Mosaic Tablet
    We shall forever speak of centuries of Judicial immunities as proof of Judicial immunities’ necessity and effectiveness without ever mentioning Judicial wrongdoing has been around as long as Judges.
    5(H) Delay = Denied
    We hold admission of any Judicial wrongdoing delayed is admission of Judicial wrongdoing denied.
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    We hold there is no judicial wrongdoing which can not be diminished by time, levels of hearings and precise dissection , categorization and delegation of related facts and responsibilities.

    SECRET CANON 6 JUDICIAL THOUGHT AND LEGAL REASONING

    6(A) Judicial Zen

    6(A)(i) We hold the logic for our legal reasoning is embodied in the following statement which is understood only by the enlightened: “Because we open a window to the outside of this room does not mean we order, allow, permission or induce any air, dust, molecules, light waves, solar radiation, atoms, or any known or unknown wave or particulate matter from outside to enter this room and are not responsible if said events occur due to the contextual basis of our decisions.”
    6(A)(ii) We believe in the existence of the metaphysical “third eye.” This enables us to selectively avoid looking out our other two eyes.
    6(A)(iii) In the beginning was our word. Our word was with God, our word IS God.
    6(A)(iv) To think is to be right.
    6(A)(v) There is no issue that cannot be split into parts, and there is no part that can’t be considered as the whole issue.

    6(B) The Dangers Of Common Sense And Factual Integration

    6(B)(i) The consideration of the end result our decision has when integrated with the “outside world” can lead to decisions based on “common sense” and must be avoided.
    6(B)(ii) “Common Sense” lessens the highly specialized analytical and intelligent nature of the Judiciary creating the undesirable illusion we think like the masses.
    6(B)(iii) “Common sense” must not be part of legal proceedings because it cannot be objectively verified.
    6(B)(iv) Large scale factual integration with realities of the outside world can negatively affect the perfection of our written word.

    6(C) Judicial Self Esteem
    We endeavor to remain forever impressed with each other, our performance and our status irregardless of the availability or affordability of Justice.
    6(D) Lip Service
    We hold the consideration and realities of the quality or delivery of Justice should be given lip service faithfully.
    6(E) The Third Person
    We hold the “system” shall always be spoken of in the third person as if it operates independently from individuals.
    6(F) Judicial Secret Mantra
    We may think but not say, “I am the closest thing to God you will ever know.”
    6(G) Protection Of Status Quo
    We shall remember “separate but equal” was around for 100 years. If we hadn’t listened to the masses it might still be good law. Therefore we shall keep the shades drawn so reality won’t affect or disturb the independence of our decision making process or the Status Quo.
    6(H) The Written Word
    We hold what looks good on paper must be good.
    6(I) The Primary Concern
    We shall never consider the end result of our decisions unless it could result in professional embarrassment, loss of status or media attention.
    6(J) Public Ignorance
    Arrogance is how Citizens define us when they are not fully aware of the nature or scope of our position.
    6(K) Judicial Discretion
    Judicial Discretion means we can do what we damn well please and is a great tool for denying appeals and judicial wrongdoing.
    6(L) The Ultimate Truth
    We irreversibly hold reality must conform to our decisions.
    6(M) Judicial Precision
    We shall forever work on perfecting the art of the polite, dignified, respectful, orderly administered and well twisted screw.
    6(N) The Judicial Last Laugh
    As related to the Judiciary, the term “over my dead body” is not a cliche but factually correct.

    SECRET CANON 7 JURIES AND JURY TRIALS

    7(A) Constitution Typo
    We hold the right in the Constitution to jury trials in civil matters is a typo.
    7(B) Evidence Seen By Jury
    We hold the illusion of justice can be created by thoughtful selection of the evidence seen by the Jury.
    7(C) Evolution Of Jury Trials
    Except for criminal matters for the wealthy, we secretly maintain the elimination of jury trials and continue searching for ways to get that goddamn Constitution out of our way.
    7(D) Jury Nullification
    We shall remember to act outraged at any mention of the vulgar practice called Jury Nullification.
    7(D)(i) Judicial View On Jury Nullification And Instruction
    We hold the public does not have the intellectual sophistication to handle the power that comes with jury nullification. This power should only be in the hands of the Judiciary.
    7(D)(ii) Jury Instruction
    In our continuing efforts to protect the public we must continue to “persuade” juries, via involuntary neurological suppression, into believing:

    7(D)(ii)(1) they can only do what we say and
    7(D)(ii)(2) they are not allowed to vote their conscience and
    7(D)(ii)(3) they should only vote regarding facts and judicially selected evidence, not facts and the law.

    7(E) Jury Selection
    We must continue to use the word “random selection” when describing the jury selection pool since “random selection” can mean a non specific selection of any group.

    SECRET CANON 8 JUSTICE

    8(A) The Value Of Justice
    We forever hold Justice as the precious and proper administration of laws filtered by legal analysis and unaffected by the end result, even when the end result is the improper administration of laws.
    8(B) The Privilege Of Justice
    We hold Justice to be more of a privilege than a right. As a result, Justice should never be dispensed casually, freely or indiscriminately.
    8(C) Appeals Insure Justice
    We hold a denial of justice is an impossibility due to everyone’s right of appeal. We hold this to be true irregardless of a litigant’s time, money or resources.
    8(D) Justice For All
    We hold Justice is for all , but only after first deciding which standard of law we will apply, the “spirit of the law” or the “letter of the law” and after;

    8(D)(i) the exact terminology and the exact questions are used to describe the injustice in the exact manner we require at the time and
    8(D)(ii) said terminology is precisely used with other precise terminology in the exact manner we happen to be requiring at the time and
    8(D)(iii) the exact form is used in the exact manner we happen to be requiring at the time and
    8(D)(iv) said form is exactly prepared with other exactly prepared forms which we are requiring at the time and
    8(D)(v) time requirements are exactly followed with respect to a host of issues that we happen to be requiring at the time and
    8(D)(vi) all tools of eliminating litigants have been judiciously attempted such as overcharging, plea bargain, premature dismissals, expert testimony, res judicata,etc. and
    8(D)(vii) we can’t possibly find a way to use the great catch all “judicial discretion” to eliminate a litigant and
    8D(viii) we have made litigants go through as many possible steps as we can conjure up irregardless of the litigant’s time or financial resources and
    8(D)(ix) any other judicially prudent, meticulous and painstaking attempt at finding a reason to avoid granting Justice unnecessarily.

    8(E) Due Process Defined
    First, decide how we want the case to go. Second, formulate a legal logic to support our decision. Third, manipulate, dissect or eliminate the facts and evidence to support our decision. Then the rubber stamp doctrine of “judicial discretion” will prevent most decisions from being overturned

    SECRET CANON 9 LAW

    9(A) The Nature Of Law
    We hold the nature of the law similar to “silly putty”. We may bend, stretch or reshape the law to say what fits our purpose.
    9(B) The Flexibility Of Law
    We hold the law is like the Bible, it can be made to say anything we want with enough quotes, viewpoints and cross references.
    9(C) The Standards Of Law
    The “letter of the law” and the “spirit of the law” are two different legal standards of Justice and the Law. We may choose the standard that suits our fancy.
    9(D) The Equal Application Of Law
    We hold the law must always be equally applied, depending on the circumstances and the litigant.
    9(E) No One Above The Law
    We hold no one is above the law. [Tee hee hee, wink wink]

    SECRET CANON 10 ON AND OFF THE RECORD

    10(A) Purpose Of Back Room Meetings
    We will make ample use of back room meetings to keep litigants in the dark. They can not and should not see or understand the process of litigation.
    10(B) Back Room Meetings Enhance Justice

    10(B)(i) We hold injustice can not result from back room meetings because if wrongdoing occurs, clients can sue their Lawyers for malpractice.
    10(B)(ii) To avoid complications, we avoid mentioning or considering the resources required for or the near impossibility of finding a lawyer to sue another lawyer.

    10(C) Health Benefits Of Back Room Meetings
    We hold the practice of moving to and from back room meetings can assist with circulation, constipation, rectal itch, gaseous emissions, breathing and caloric consumption.
    10(D) Back Room Meetings Are Open Court
    We shall go off the record as much as possible being careful to maintain the illusion of “open court.”
    10(E) The Unmentionable Contract
    We prefer clients not be present in back room meetings while never mentioning we hold the client to whatever their lawyer agrees to in these meetings.
    10(F) Accuracy Of Record
    We resist new equipment that transcribes immediately. We prefer to have the option of making corrections to insure accuracy before the record is transcribed.
    10(G) Consequences Of Clients At Back Room Meetings
    We hold a client’s presence at back room meetings can result in inappropriate evaluations of Judicial and Attorney conduct and expertise.

    SECRET CANON 11 PRO SE’S, THE POOR AND INDIGENTS

    11(A) The Protection Of The Public
    11(A)(i) We hold the need to protect the public from the dangers of self representation far outweighs the fair impartial administration of Justice. To protect the public from the dangers of self representation we shall:

    11(A)(i)(1) approach the Pro Se, poor or indigent’s complaint from this objectively protective and compassionate position, “Is there anyway I can deny this petition?”
    11(A)(i)(2) use Judicially prudent unbiased techniques to intimidate, frustrate, anger, nit pick, postpone, play with or in any other way rid ourselves of a Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant.
    11(A)(i)(3) assist the Pro Se, poor or indigent in a resolution by bending or ignoring the rules on ex parte communications.
    11(A)(i)(4) nurture an unfriendly environment in a dignified and polite manner.
    11(A)(i)(5) minimize or ignore Judicial, Court or Attorney errors while magnifying any errors of the Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant.
    11(A)(i)(6) politely move on to the next case before the Pro Se, poor or indigent is finished. This will assist eliminating them later with arguments such as Res Judicata.

    11(B) Disposition Before Written Decisions

    11(B)(i) It is best to be rid of a Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant before having to render a decision requiring written legal analysis.
    11(B)(ii) If forced to render a written opinion on a Pro Se , poor or indigent case, we will stick to or switch to the arguments that validate our desired position.
    11(B)(iii) In Pro Se poor or indigent cases, we prefer unpublished opinions. This makes it easier to perpetuate non sequiturs and pseudo-justice while maintaining the illusion of due process.
    11(C)(iv) We hold “giving the dog a bone” occasionally is good practice and gives us some ammunition when our integrity is questioned.

    11(C) The Superiority Of Bar Members
    When dealing with a Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant, we shall always give credence to members of the Bar’s arguments, regardless of how absurd or off point they are.
    11(D) The Superiority Of The Status Quo
    In cases involving the system, member of the bar or the status quo versus the Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant make sure the system, member of the bar or the status quo prevail regardless of how you must ignore or pervert the issues .
    11(E) Irrebuttable Presumption Of Pro Se Ignorance
    We hold the Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant does not or can not understand the complex issues of litigation.
    11(F) Methods For Smart Alec Pro Se, Poor Or Indigent Litigants
    If a Pro Se, poor or indigent does understand the issues we shall:

    11(F)(i) repeatedly bait them to go off point or
    11(F)(ii) convince them they don’t understand or
    11(F)(iii) diligently look for and focus on a point they don’t understand clearly or
    11(F)(iv) continue until they err, running with the error to make a touchdown.

    11(G) Attitude Toward Naive Pro Se, poor or indigent Litigant
    We shall always take a patient but condescending attitude with a Pro Se, poor or indigent litigant that is so naive as to demand and expect fair, impartial Justice and the law applied as written.
    11(H) The Inability To Practice Law
    Our inability to give legal advice or advocate is restricted to Pro Se, poor or indigent litigants, not members of the bar, the fictitious corporate person or the State.
    11(I) The In Forma Pauparis Hearing
    We hold when questioning a litigant attempting to file In Forma Pauparis regarding what they own to never reveal the legal definition of “own” is to have and hold title. This effectively eliminates the unresourceful and ineffective and our ass is covered.
    11(J) The Judicial Nightmare
    The nightmare of having the public believe they have a chance of receiving justice without a lawyer must be avoided at all costs. The Courts are best operated as a “members only” organization.

    SECRET CANON 12 PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA

    12(A) Appeasing The Public

    12(A)(i) Exemplifying one case where the system worked can cover a multitude of sins.
    12(A)(ii) Occasional written opinions regarding concern about justice for the poor are effective in perpetuating the myth that we are continually and aggressively working on this issue.
    12(A)(iii) When all else fails, schedule future hearings.

    12(B) Handling Of Liability
    We hold where liability of the privileged, the system or the status quo is involved, admission of wrong doing or error causes more harm than good. However, occasionally throwing the dog a bone can cover a multitude of sins.
    12(C) Objective Public Image Maintained
    We will continue to resist equipment in legal proceedings that can record emotion, attitude or personality traits which can affect the course of proceedings.
    12(D) High Profile Trials
    High profile trials are an opportunity to show Americans the way the system should work. This is advantageous to the overwhelming majority of Americans who would never see it otherwise. This also minimizes complaints of the non-existence of an effective judicial system.
    12(E) The Priority Of The Public Trust
    We hold the public trust must be maintained regardless of how we have to lie, cheat or steal to maintain it.
    12(F) Media Focus and Public Attention
    We hold hearings on any judicial wrongdoing should never be conducted when media attention or public awareness is high.
    12(G) Judicial Verbal Equivalents To The Finger
    When dealing with the public and the media, we shall never forget the power of the statements,

    “You don’t understand the intricacies and operations of law” and
    “It would be inappropriate for me to comment” and
    “Many times Judges have knowledge of details not known by the public.”

    SECRET CANON 13 RULES AND PROCEDURES

    13(A) Value Of Justice
    We hold Justice should always be fought for, never freely handed out.
    13(B) The True Essence Of Procedure
    We shall strive to find the breaking point in each individual.
    13(C) Productivity
    To create the illusion of productivity we shall forever hold Justice in front of litigants like a carrot on a stick.
    13(D) Administration Of Justice
    We hold the selective and selectively meticulous application and adherence to rules and procedure can be used to override the administration of Justice if the administration of Justice requires it.
    13(E) The Obstacle Course Objective
    We shall always remember the amount of Citizens we have to deal with is contingent on the number of hoops we require they go through.
    13(F) Time Of The Essence
    We shall remember time is on our side and the passage of time can create the illusion of thoroughness.
    13(G) Due Process
    We hold the term “due process” can imply the payment of money.

    SECRET CANON 14 THE SUPREMACY OF THE CORPORATE PERSON

    14(A) The Corporate Person v. The Individual

    14(A)(i) The fictitious Corporate person shall be held in higher esteem than the individual.
    14(B)(ii) We hold individuals are better represented by a corporate entity. This is more efficient and results in fewer demands for Rights or Justice.

    SECRET CANON 15 LYING AND TRUTH TELLING

    15(A) The Ethics Of Lying

    15(A)(i) To maintain the ethical nature of legal proceedings, the word “lie” is considered vulgar as related to statements from the Judiciary or members of the bar.
    15(A)(ii) We shall use terms like misspoke, spoken in error, inadvertent utterance, involuntary neurological transmission, spontaneous somnambulistic manifestation or some terminology denoting non deliberate intent when describing the statements in question.
    15(A)(iii) We hold the near impossibility of the existence of the lie because objective reality can have countless varied creative interpretations and constructive descriptions. Calling another’s view of objective reality a lie shows a lack of intelligence, creative viewpoints and critical thinking skills.

    15(B) The Ethics Of Truth
    15(B)(i) We hold truth is that which is least damaging to the status quo.

    When you finally climb out of the wreckage, assuming you do, you will be much wiser and stronger in many ways. You will be well equipped to help others in the same situation. Some of the valuable advice I received during this 10+ year crisis is:

    Choose your battles carefully.
    Get treatment…FAST.
    Don’t be afraid to take medications whether for the body or the mind.
    Don’t be afraid to acknowledge your problems may have started with, or evolved into, what is classified today as a mental problem or problems.
    Stop expecting people to be as outraged as you are.
    Try to find meaning, purpose or projects that don’t involve the fight.
    Find SOME way to relax and enjoy yourself.
    Consider spiritual based assistance, solutions or activities.
    Ask for help! You probably need something you don’t think or know you need.
    Remember – ALL WARS END!
    Your friends and family have left, not because they are necessarily bad, but because you have become too much of a weight for them to carry.
    For God’s sake, do some exercise to help you unwind!

    I never received justice in any substantive way. Oh, there was a thing here or there that gave me small smidgens of justice. But some points need to be made here:

    Part of my recovery was accepting I would not see the justice I expected and deserved according to our Constitution.
    Part of my recovery was realizing that this country has, in many ways, written off our Constitution and rights of redress.
    Part of my recovery was accepting that corrupt, lying, thieving, completely callous people remain in positions of power without correction.
    Part of my recovery was realizing that my wrongdoers would absolutely dread having to litigate anything with me again because I gave them a serious run for their money.
    Part of my recovery was realizing I cost my wrongdoers a LOT of money – much more than they thought they would ever spend given the fight I gave them.
    Part of my recovery is knowing that hundreds of people a day are using this site for various reasons and are helped or informed by it.
    Part of my recovery was deciding I was going to find a way to live and achieve some degree of enjoyment out of life despite my knowledge of the unbelievable corruption of the American system that I have knowledge of.
    Part of my recovery was accepting I can be legally right and be rejected by a corrupt system. We are no longer a country of laws, we are a country where laws are “creatively interpreted”.
    Part of my recovery was realizing that ALL OF US tend towards abuse of power when we get it. The one most likely to abuse power is the one who thinks they are above doing so. It takes a short time to learn to exercise power, but a lifetime to learn how to avoid abusing it. That is true for YOU, ME and ALL current abusers of power. If you don’t fully comprehend that, you will go from being abused to being an abuser.
    A large part of my recovery was, and sometimes still is, bleeding. Bleeding mentally and emotionally and recovering physically…and I might add slowly. Some call it bleeding, others venting, processing, dealing with things or coming to terms with things. Whatever you call it, it will take time.

    A word of advice for those affected and infected by legal abuses: During the usually lengthy litigation process we tend to meet and perhaps befriend a lot of angry people on some level. Many turn into conspiracy buffs or people that are ANTI this and that thinking they have the system, conspiracies or ‘the plan’ all figured out. For many this becomes feeding on their anger in a negative way instead of recovering from it. Consider other friends. There comes a time when you need to climb out of the fox hole and be around people that aren’t at war.

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #845312
    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    Gentleman, I have not been able to login since about 2.5 weeks ago.

    So with that, lets begin.
    If you have not seen this notice? Here it is:
    Post

    SO here are some things that you should know.

    1. The new site is being worked on. BUT He has been working to pay his own rent. Without that, he could not dedicate more time to MGTOW.com.

    2. Keymasters GOAL is to make this website his daily job. You can’t do that unless you got a way to pay your own bills. With what he is working on, he will be able to dedicate his time to MGTOW.com.

    3. KEYMASTER is ALIVE and doing better than ever. But he does have a life folks. And he does need to do other things. Others have mentioned why not put in admins? Well, there are some real big liabilities there. And it is to PROTECT MGTOW.com. This might seem odd, but maybe many of you don’t know this. MGTOW.com was not made by a multimillion dollar team. Nope. Made by ONE MAN with some help from a few others. But most of what you see on this site is all the work of 1 man. THINK ABOUT IT!

    4. He wanted me to let all members know, that if you wish to cash in your chips, get refunds, then you are welcome to contact keymaster to do so. Also, the new web site is going to require new logins, and is going to be a new platform. So the membership information is going to have to be resubmitted. Keymaster really cares about men getting true value for their help running the web site. And he thanks the members who’s help pay the hosting costs of this website. It’s not cheap. Freedom comes at a price gentleman.

    5. All things should be taken care of in 2 months time MAX. Till then he is going to be working on one page a day to fix bugs and issues with the site. Some features are going to go offline but will return in the final Roll out of the website.

    6. Login issues are the main problem here. It took him personally fixing this to get it working for me. From his end, he was able to make it work. I tried this once before and it did not work. But imagine the amount of time it’s going to take to fix this issue.

    7. One question that’s been going around is why we don’t have admins? Well, that takes money, trust, and knowledge. Those things do not come cheap. We have a fellow TurboBricker here, and he can tell you that keeping a site up and running is not easy.
    Finding people that have these abilities and trust and fairness all in one package is HARD to do. Many don’t understand what Legal Liabilities come up when you have site admins that deal with things like login info, payment information etc. There is a reason why Keymaster prefers to manage this site.

    8. MGTOW.com is not a FOR PROFIT WEB SITE. It was a Idea he created that he never thought would scale into one of the leading websites out there on the net. Contrary to some, MGTOW.com is not some Multi million dollar set up. It was a labor of love. And therefore, a HOBBY that become and grew into the site that it is today. That is why there are so many issues with the site as is. It was never made to handle the traffic that it gets. Or the user base. Crazy but true.

    9. Keymaster is going to implement these changes in the future that is going to make MGTOW.com one of the most cutting edge website out there. And it will be able to scale to MILLIONS of user one day. THIS IS THE PLAN folks.

    10. You want to be a part of History? Stay along for the ride. MGTOW.com is not going anywhere. I’m not. (Unless I go to jail again) And with all great things, investment take time to grow.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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    Helsinki Secrets [1]

    Israel Shamir
    Unz.com
    Jul 24, 2018

    Israel Shamir is native of Novosibirsk , Siberia and a critically acclaimed and respected Russian-Israeli writer and journalist.

    Shamir moved to Israel in 1969, served as paratrooper in the Israeli Army and fought in the 1973 Yom-Kippur war. After his discharge, he turned to journalism and writing.

    From 1975, Shamir joined the BBC, lived in Japan and returned to Israel writing for the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz, and was the Knesset spokesman for the Israel Socialist Party (Mapam). After political life he continues writing books and articles for alternative publications.

    Shamir currently lives in Jaffa and spends much time in Moscow and Stockholm, and has become a leading proponent of the ‘One Man, One Vote, One State’ solution for Palestine/Israel.

    Like an orange hurricane, President Trump made a stormy visit to the Old World. Usually American presidents’ visits to Europe present photo opportunities and vows of eternal love and friendship. Not this time. Since the Mongol invasion, not many visitors from outside shook Europe like he did. The US President has finally emerged from the cage built by his political adversaries, and begun to say things his voters wanted to hear.

    However, his wonderful daring statements were quickly undermined and disowned by his ministers and advisers, creating the feeling that Trump speaks only for himself, while the US administration, his own appointees say the opposite. And then he also repudiated his own statements, saying he was misunderstood.

    The American president increasingly resembles the hero of The Prince and The Pauper, the poor boy who accidentally became a king – and began to behave in a non-royal way: showing mercy and caring for people. His own staff disregards his commands. Trump says what people like to hear, but his administration sticks to the original course.

    During the first part of his trip he acted a rebel in Wodehouse World with its feeble men and formidable women. Indeed the West is ruled by formidable aunts and elder sisters. Aunt Angela in Germany, Aunt Theresa in England, Aunt Brigitte in France. Only Aunt Hillary is missing to complete the puzzle and establish the rule of Aunties over their hen-pecked nephews.

    (Hillary’s defeat didn’t derail the Aunties’ program of emasculation: #MeToo campaign goes on unabated. Men are afraid to flirt with girls. Henry (The Superman) Cavill admitted as much in an interview, saying that flirting with somebody would be like “casting myself into the fires of hell”, as a person in the public eye. “I think a woman should be wooed and chased”, he said, but it could lead to jail. He was immediately attacked for this heresy: “If Henry Cavill doesn’t want to be called a rapist then all he has to do is… not rape anyone”, implausibly they claimed. And he apologised profusely.)

    Trump’s trip had been accompanied by mass protest demos. Normally I am all in favour of a good anti-American demo, but in this case, the protesters were extreme feminists and supporters of unlimited immigration. That’s people who like the Aunties, and hate Uncles. They do not mind conflict with Russia and even consider Trump as a “Russian agent”. They dislike that he does not obey Aunties.

    In the second part of the tour, Trump had met with the formidable Mr Putin, a real man. Now that we have learned from our reliable sources what had happened in the palatial halls of Helsinki (excepting face-to-face private talk with Putin) we can describe Trump’s Pilgrim’s Progress and share our knowledge and conclusions with you.

    In short, President Trump made the right sounds and called for right solutions, but he has been unable to insist on any. If he were a free man of his own mind, this trip would transform the world. The way things are, it will remain a sign of his honourable intentions, for everything he said has been overturned and denied by his aides.

    In Brussels, Trump attacked Frau Merkel. How does she dare to buy Russian gas, if Germany faces a Russian threat? Why does it accept immigrants and refugees who undermine the European way of life? Saying that, he sided with “the populists”, the Italians, Hungarians and Austrians, whose top politicians are male and friendly to Trump and Putin.

    The Brussels meeting almost came to an undoing of NATO. Trump hinted that the US would leave NATO unless they pay. They have to pay more, much more, if they want to have American protection.

    Could he mean it? NATO is an instrument of American control over Europe, and Washington keeps dozens of bases in Europe, in particular – in Germany. Germany has remained under American occupation since 1945. This would seem good for America, but the occupied and controlled Western European states are tied to the Clinton camp, to Democrats and liberals. They do not accept Trump as their rightful sovereign. And Europe does not pay for its occupation, so it is costly.

    Of course, it is a great honour to occupy and control the great powers of the past, England, France, the Netherlands, Spain. But it costs a lot of money for America. Likewise, in 1990 Russia discovered that it is expensive to control surly East Germany, independent Poland, sunny Georgia, tricky Armenia, populous Uzbekistan and the rainy Baltic States.

    There is no certainty that the countries of Europe will agree to pay and submit to Trump’s demands. In Germany, there are growing voices demanding the Yankees be sent home, that is, to ask the American soldiers to leave Germany. It would be good if NATO were to disintegrate and disappear, like the Warsaw Treaty Organization disappeared. Trump has repeatedly said that he wants to return the American soldiers home.

    Perhaps we shall witness Pax Americana without American troops in Europe, like England fictitiously claimed to belong to the Roman Empire, though Roman legions had left, and Rome lost all interest in foggy Albion.

    In England, Trump confronted Mrs May. She reminded him of his school mistress, and Donald does not like school mistresses. The soft Brexit, which she intends to conclude, is a complete bummer, not a Brexit, he said. Under the proposed treaty, all prerogatives remain in Brussels. So, there can be no trade agreement between the United States and Britain.

    America will negotiate directly with Brussels. And in general, it would be better if May transferred Downing Street 10 to her former Foreign Secretary, a hard-line Brexit supporter, the red-headed Bojo (as the Brits call Boris Johnson, who had just resigned, resenting the proposed plan for soft Brexit).

    The European Union is an American design, too. Why, then, does the US President want to undermine it by removing the UK, his own Trojan Horse? Apparently, it means that the globalist forces have entered a state of direct confrontation with America.

    This first part of Trump’s tour had been followed by the Kremlin with satisfaction. The Kremlin also believes that NATO has become obsolete, and that Brexit is the right step. Russia instinctively disapproves of mass migration, just like Trump.

    Trump’s meeting with President Putin had been postponed for a year; both men were eager to meet. Trump wanted to meet another strong man, a powerful chieftain who can assist him in building a new world, instead of the one created under Obama, by media and Supreme Court Judges. President Putin wanted to solve bilateral issues and to ease American pressure upon Russia.

    Their problems were very different. The main problems of Trump were Mme Clinton and Barack Obama, and the whole army of their obstinate followers who didn’t recognise Trump’s legitimacy. Putin couldn’t do much for him, with all his sympathy.

    Putin’s problem is the hybrid warfare carried out by the United States against Russia. Despite accusations you hear in your media (alleged Russian ads in the Facebook and Twitter influencing voters), American pressure on Russia is very real and very painful.

    American officials try to wreck every international deal Russia attempts to clinch. It is not only, or even mainly about weapons. If a country A wants to sell Russians, say, bananas, the US ambassador will come to A’s king, or his minister, and will expressly forbid him to sell bananas to godless Russians.

    Otherwise, do not expect the US aid, or do not count on US favours in your disputes with your neighbours, or the US won’t buy your production, or US banks will take another long and jaundiced view at your financial transactions.

    You witnessed the scene, when the crazed Nikki Haley, the US Ambassador to the UN, threatened sovereign nations with severe punishment for voting against the US desires, so you have an idea of American delicacy and caution while pushing their will through.

    Russians are in a very uncomfortable seat. All their neighbours are subject to American pressure to annoy Russia, be it Georgia (once they even attacked Russia militarily being led by American and Israeli advisers) or the Ukraine (Americans arranged a coup d’état and installed extremely hostile to Russia government in Kiev).

    American military bases surround Russia and NATO troops drew closer and closer to its centres. American military budget of 600 billion dollars dwarfs the Russian one, while the armaments’ race can undermine Russian finances. If Russia were a woman, she would scream: stop it!

    Perhaps our colleague Mr Andrei Martyanov is right and the US can’t destroy Russia militarily; perhaps Immanuel Wallerstein is correct and American power is in decline; but meanwhile the US is perfectly able to make life hard and difficult for any state. It made life unbearably hard for North Korea, extremely hard for Iran. Russia is not doing half as good as she could do without ceaseless American meddling.

    President Putin would like Trump to relent. There is no reason for this incessant picking on Russia; it is not Communist anymore; it is much smaller and less populous than the former USSR; it wants to live in peace as a member of the family of nations, not as a great alternative. The anti-Russian offensive began in earnest in the days of previous US presidents, namely Obama and Clinton; so it would make sense for Trump to stop it.

    Problem is, President Trump is also actively engaged in war against Russia. Just a few days ago he pressured the German Chancellor to give up on the North Stream-2, to stop buying Russian gas. His advisers demanded that Turkey desist from buying a Russian antimissile system. The US Air Force bombed Russian troops in Syria.

    Still Putin made a good try. He proposed to hold a referendum in the Donbas area of Eastern Ukraine which is presently independent though lacking international recognition. The people of Donbas had their own referendum in 2014, and voted for independence; Kiev regime and its Western sponsors denied its validity as it was done under Russian army’s protection, they claimed. Now Putin proposed a re-run under international auspices.

    Trump ostensibly agreed, he said it was a good idea, and he asked for the opinion of John Bolton, his national security advisor; Bolton confirmed it was a good idea. This was in Helsinki; however, since then the idea had been rejected by the Americans, as the Kiev regime balked at it.

    The regime knows well that the people of Eastern Ukraine aren’t likely to opt for their tender mercies, and Trump administration won’t push Kiev to agree to secession, or to abide by the Minsk agreements and let them re-join federal Ukraine as an autonomous unit. So this haemorrhaging wound at the western border of Russia will bleed on.

    As for Syria, Putin told Trump that he agreed upon the arrangements with Mr Netanyahu to keep Iranians and their militias at some 80 km away from the disengagement (1974) lines at the Golan Heights. (Iranians are now going through a difficult stretch and they accepted this solution without a murmur.) This was acceptable to Trump, and both presidents stressed that they value Israeli security highly.

    (They have differing reasons for it. Putin wants Syria to remain in peace under his protégé and ally President Bashar Assad, and for this, he needs some security arrangements with pugnacious Israel. Putin is aware of Jewish state’s ability to pull strings and he doesn’t want to antagonise it. Putin also wants Trump to be happy, and Israel is a point of huge importance for the US President, much more than for Putin.

    Trump sacrifices at the altar of Israel to propitiate the Jews he is fighting in the US. Trump fights everything American Jews stand for, against all they achieved recently. He wants to have them back in the cash flow cubicle, the ‘short guys that wear yarmulkes every day’, counting his notes. They want much, much more: they wish to dominate and rule America their own way. Trump is ready to give all he can to Israel, so the American Jews will be less eager to fight him.

    This ploy had been tried by the German National-Socialists in 1930s, who gave the Zionist-Socialists the most profitable Ha’avara deal to offset and overcome hostility of American Jews. It failed then, it is likely to fail again, but not before the Zionists will get all they dream of.)

    For North Korea, Putin lauded Trump’s move and said he will keep playing a supportive role to American efforts.

    For the bogus “Russian interference in the US elections”, Putin proposed to establish a bilateral expert group for cyber security. Let experts deal with experts, and sort out the claims, he said. Trump agreed with the idea, though his advisers were quick to repudiate it upon their return to Washington.

    Putin also proposed to allow cross-examinations on the reciprocity basis: the US investigators will travel to Russia and interrogate Russian officials indicted by Mueller’s team; while Russian investigators will travel to the US and interrogate Ambassador McFaul for his participation in Browder affair.

    Trump had been impressed by the generous offer; but as he returned to Washington, McFaul (falsely) claimed Trump intends to send him to the Gulag, and Trump’s advisers promptly repudiated the proposal.

    Putin did not intend to arrest and detain McFaul, just to question him; likewise, he wouldn’t permit Mueller investigators to carry Russian intelligence officers to a Guantanamo of their choice, just to ask them questions. The Browder Affair grows bigger as time goes: though the rascal was not the biggest of Russian assets’ looters, he was the most outspoken and keen on hanging on the stolen goods.

    The US advisers from top-league universities implanted in the Yeltsin administration in 1990s had stolen more; they also facilitated creation of the mighty oligarchs of that time.

    However, Browder had more tenacity and he judiciously invested a lion share of his ill-gotten profits in bribes aiming to suborn the US administration and turn it onto relentless pursuit of Russia. Ambassador McFaul fronted for him and covered his misdeeds; while McFaul tried to interfere in Russian electoral process following the precedent established in 1996.

    Thus at Helsinki, a pattern had been established, I was told by a witness. Putin would make a proposal, Trump would tentatively agree and promptly deny and repudiate on return to Washington.

    From the beginning to the end, the US media was highly hostile to Trump and to his mission in Europe. They eagerly followed anti-Trump demos and exaggerated his every blunder. Google obediently trailed at the top Twitter messages of the ex-CIA boss calling Trump ‘a traitor’. All prominent Western newspapers spoke of Trump’s ‘treason’.

    Perhaps they would be able to convince some Republicans to follow their trend, but the defeat of Rep. Mark Sanford in South Carolina primaries following Trump’s angry Twitter had brought them to their senses. A Republican leader stated the case well: “Obviously there are going to be those who are going to criticise him but they’re going to criticise him for anything that he says. This committee stands strong, stands behind him and wants to support him. We’re interested not only in the 2018 elections, we’re interested in the 2020 elections as well.”

    The result of violent Trump-is-a-traitor campaign was surprising: 80% of Trump voters approved of his Helsinki shtick, notwithstanding the vehement accusations. American media had lost its silver touch. President may continue to build his power structure, and perhaps one day his word will be worth something.

    Bottom line: Trump dared, and survived.

    Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net
    This article was first published at The Unz Review.

    Citations
    [1] http://www.unz.com/ishamir/helsinki-secrets/

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    The FBI Hand Behind Russia-Gate
    Ray McGovern
    The Unz Review
    January 11, 2018

    Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was an Army and CIA intelligence analyst for 30 years; prepared and briefed the President’s Daily Brief for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan; and is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)

      Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the third presidential debate in 2016, during which Clinton called Trump Vladimir Putin’s “puppet.

    Russia-gate is becoming FBI-gate, thanks to the official release of unguarded text messages between loose-lipped FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and his garrulous girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page. (Ten illustrative texts from their exchange appear at the end of this article.)

    Despite his former job as chief of the FBI’s counterintelligence section, Strzok had the naive notion that texting on FBI phones could not be traced. Strzok must have slept through “Surity 101.” Or perhaps he was busy texting during that class. Girlfriend Page cannot be happy at being misled by his assurance that using office phones would be a secure way to conduct their affair(s).

    It would have been unfortunate enough for Strzok and Page to have their adolescent-sounding texts merely exposed, revealing the reckless abandon of star-crossed lovers hiding (they thought) secrets from cuckolded spouses, office colleagues, and the rest of us. However, for the never-Trump plotters in the FBI, the official release of just a fraction (375) of almost 10,000 messages does incalculably more damage than that.

    We suddenly have documentary proof that key elements of the U.S. intelligence community were trying to short-circuit the U.S. democratic process. And that puts in a new and dark context the year-long promotion of Russia-gate. It now appears that it was not the Russians trying to rig the outcome of the U.S. election, but leading officials of the U.S. intelligence community, shadowy characters sometimes called the Deep State.

    More of the Strzok-Page texting dialogue is expected to be released. And the Department of Justice Inspector General reportedly has additional damaging texts from others on the team that Special Counsel Robert Mueller selected to help him investigate Russia-gate.

    Besides forcing the removal of Strzok and Page, the text exposures also sounded the death knell for the career of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, in whose office some of the plotting took place and who has already announced his plans to retire soon.

    But the main casualty is the FBI’s 18-month campaign to sabotage candidate-and-now-President Donald Trump by using the Obama administration’s Russia-gate intelligence “assessment,” electronic surveillance of dubious legality, and a salacious dossier that could never pass the smell test, while at the same time using equally dubious techniques to immunize Hillary Clinton and her closest advisers from crimes that include lying to the FBI and endangering secrets.

    Ironically, the Strzok-Page texts provide something that the Russia-gate investigation has been sorely lacking: first-hand evidence of both corrupt intent and action. After months of breathless searching for “evidence” of Russian-Trump collusion designed to put Trump in the White House, what now exists is actual evidence that senior officials of the Obama administration colluded to keep Trump out of the White House – proof of what old-time gumshoes used to call “means, motive and opportunity.”

    Even more unfortunately for Russia-gate enthusiasts, the FBI lovers’ correspondence provides factual evidence exposing much of the made-up “Resistance” narrative – the contrived storyline that The New York Times and much of the rest of the U.S. mainstream media deemed fit to print with little skepticism and few if any caveats, a scenario about brilliantly devious Russians that not only lacks actual evidence – relying on unverified hearsay and rumor – but doesn’t make sense on its face.

    The Russia-gate narrative always hinged on the preposterous notion that Russian President Vladimir Putin foresaw years ago what no American political analyst considered even possible, the political ascendancy of Donald Trump. According to the narrative, the fortune-telling Putin then risked creating even worse tensions with a nuclear-armed America that would – by all odds – have been led by a vengeful President Hillary Clinton.

    Besides this wildly improbable storyline, there were flat denials from WikiLeaks, which distributed the supposedly “hacked” Democratic emails, that the information came from Russia – and there was the curious inability of the National Security Agency to use its immense powers to supply any technical evidence to support the Russia-hack scenario.

    The Trump Shock

    But the shock of Trump’s election and the decision of many never-Trumpers to cast their lot with the Resistance led to a situation in which any prudent skepticism or demand for evidence was swept aside.

    So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.

    Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”

    But the “assessment” served a useful purpose for the never-Trumpers: it applied an official imprimatur on the case for delegitimizing Trump’s election and even raised the long-shot hope that the Electoral College might reverse the outcome and possibly install a compromise candidate, such as former Secretary of State Colin Powell, in the White House. Though the Powell ploy fizzled, the hope of somehow removing Trump from office continued to bubble, fueled by the growing hysteria around Russia-gate.

    Virtually all skepticism about the evidence-free “assessment” was banned. For months, the Times and other newspapers of record repeated the lie that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies had concurred in the conclusion about the Russian “hack.” Even when that falsehood was belatedly acknowledged, the major news outlets just shifted the phrasing slightly to say that U.S. intelligence agencies had reached the Russian “hack” conclusion. Shane’s blunt initial recognition about the lack of proof disappeared from the mainstream media’s approved narrative of Russia-gate.

    Doubts about the Russian “hack” or dissident suggestions that what we were witnessing was a “soft coup” were scoffed at by leading media commentators. Other warnings from veteran U.S. intelligence professionals about the weaknesses of the Russia-gate narrative and the danger of letting politicized intelligence overturn a constitutional election were also brushed aside in pursuit of the goal of removing Trump from the White House.

    It didn’t even seem to matter when new Russia-gate disclosures conflicted with the original narrative that Putin had somehow set Trump up as a Manchurian candidate. All normal journalistic skepticism was jettisoned. It was as if the Russia-gate advocates started with the conclusion that Trump must go and then made the facts fit into that mold, but anyone who noted the violations of normal investigative procedures was dismissed as a “Trump enabler” or a “Moscow stooge.”

    The Text Evidence

    But then came the FBI text messages, providing documentary evivdence that key FBI officials involved in the Russia-gate investigation were indeed deeply biased and out to get Trump, adding hard proof to Trump’s longstanding lament that he was the subject of a “witch hunt.”

    Justified or not, Trump’s feeling of vindication could hardly be more dangerous — particularly at a time when the most urgent need is to drain some testosterone from the self-styled Stable-Genius-in-Chief and his martinet generals.

    On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans. That was always an underlying danger of the Resistance’s strategy to seize on whatever weapons were available – no matter how reckless or unfair – to “get Trump.”

    Beyond that, Russia-gate has become so central to the Washington establishment’s storyline that there appears to be no room for second-thoughts or turning back. The momentum is such that some Democrats and the media never-Trumpers can’t stop stoking the smoke of Russia-gate and holding out hope against hope that it will somehow justify Trump’s impeachment.

    Yet, the sordid process of using legal/investigative means to settle political scores further compromises the principle of the “rule of law” and integrity of journalism in the eyes of many Americans. After a year of Russia-gate, the “rule of law” and “pursuit of truth” appear to have been reduced to high-falutin’ phrases for political score-setttling, a process besmirched by Republicans in earlier pursuits of Democrats and now appearing to be a bipartisan method for punishing political rivals regardless of the lack of evidence.

    Strzok and Page

    Peter Strzok (pronounced “struck”) has an interesting pedigree with multiple tasks regarding both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump. As the FBI’s chief of counterespionage during the investigation into then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s unauthorized use of a personal email server for classified information, Strzok reportedly changed the words “grossly negligent” (which could have triggered legal prosecution) to the far less serious “extremely careless” in FBI Director James Comey’s depiction of Clinton’s actions. This semantic shift cleared the way for Comey to conclude just 20 days before the Democratic National Convention began in July 2016, that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges against Mrs. Clinton.

    Then, as Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division, Strzok led the FBI’s investigation into alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election of 2016. It is a safe bet that he took a strong hand in hand-picking the FBI contingent of analysts that joined “hand-picked” counterparts from CIA and NSA in preparing the evidence-free, Jan. 6, 2017 assessment accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of interfering in the election of 2016. (Although accepted in Establishment groupthink as revealed truth, that poor excuse for analysis reflected the apogee of intelligence politicization — rivaled only by the fraudulent intelligence on “weapons of mass destruction“ in Iraq 15 years ago.)

    In June and July 2017 Strzok was the top FBI official working on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but was taken off that job when the Justice Department IG learned of the Strzok-Page text-message exchange and told Mueller.

    There is no little irony in the fact that what did in the FBI sweathearts was their visceral disdain for Mr. Trump, their cheerleading-cum-kid-gloves treatment of Mrs. Clinton and her associates, their 1950-ish, James Clapperesque attitude toward Russians as “almost genetically driven” to evil, and their (Strzok/Page) elitist conviction that they know far better what is good for the country than regular American citizens, including those “deplorables” whom Clinton said made up half of Trump’s supporters.

    But Strzok/Page had no idea that their hubris, elitism and scheming would be revealed in so tangible a way. Worst of all for them, the very thing that Strzok, in particular, worked so hard to achieve — the sabotaging of Trump and immunization of Mrs. Clinton and her closest advisers is now coming apart at the seams.

    Congress: Oversee? or Overlook?

    At this point, the $64 question is whether the various congressional oversight committees will remain ensconced in their customarily cozy role as “overlook” committees, or whether they will have the courage to attempt to carry out their Constitutional duty.

    The latter course would mean confronting a powerful Deep State and its large toolbox of well-practiced retaliatory techniques, including J. Edgar Hoover-style blackmail on steroids, enabled by electronic surveillance of just about everything and everyone. Yes, today’s technology permits blanket collection, and “Collect Everything” has become the motto.

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, with almost four decades of membership in the House and Senate, openly warned incoming President Trump in January 2017 against criticizing the U.S. intelligence community because U.S. intelligence officials have “six ways from Sunday to get back at you” if you are “dumb” enough to take them on.

    Thanks to the almost 10,000 text messages between Strzok and Page, only a small fraction of which were given to Congress four weeks ago, there is now real evidentiary meat on the bones of the suspicions that there indeed was a “deep-state coup” to “correct” the outcome of the 2016 election. We now know that the supposedly apolitical FBI officials had huge political axes to grind.

    The Strzok-Page exchanges drip with disdain for Trump and those deemed his smelly deplorable supporters. In one text message, Strzok expressed visceral contempt for those working-class Trump voters, writing on Aug. 26, 2016, “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support. … it’s scary real down here.”

    The texts even show Strzok warning of the need for an “insurance policy” to thwart Trump on the off-chance that his poll numbers closed in on those of Mrs. Clinton.

    An Aug. 6, 2016 text message, for example, shows Page giving her knight in shining armor strong affirmation: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace [Trump].” That text to Strzok includes a link to a David Brooks column in The New York Times, in which Brooks concludes with the clarion call: “There comes a time when neutrality and laying low become dishonorable. If you’re not in revolt, you’re in cahoots. When this period and your name are mentioned, decades hence, your grandkids will look away in shame.”

    Another text message shows that other senior government officials – alarmed at the possibility of a Trump presidency – joined the discussion. In an apparent reference to an August 2016 meeting with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Strzok wrote to Page on Aug. 15, 2016, “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he [Trump] gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk.” Strzok added, “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event that you die before you’re 40.”

    Insurance Policy?

    Senate Judiciary Committee chair Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, says he will ask Strzok to explain the “insurance policy” when he calls him to testify. What seems already clear is that the celebrated “Steele Dossier” was part of the “insurance,” as was the evidence-less legend that Russia hacked the DNC’s and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails and gave them to WikiLeaks.

    If congressional investigators have been paying attention, they already know what former weapons inspector Scott Ritter shared with Veteran intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) colleagues this week; namely, that Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson, who commissioned the Russia dossier using Democratic Party money, said he reached out to Steele after June 17, just three days before Steele’s first report was published, drawing on seven sources.

    “There is a snowball’s chance in hell that this is raw intelligence gathered by Steele; rather he seems to have drawn on a single ‘trusted intermediary’ to gather unsubstantiated rumor already in existence.”

    Another VIPS colleague, Phil Giraldi, writing out of his own experience in private sector consulting, added: “The fact that you do not control your sources frequently means that they will feed you what they think you want to hear. Since they are only doing it for money, the more lurid the details the better, as it increases the apparent value of the information.

    The private security firm in turn, which is also doing it for the money, will pass on the stories and even embroider them to keep the client happy and to encourage him to come back for more. When I read the Steele dossier it looked awfully familiar to me, like the scores of similar reports I had seen which combined bulls~~~ with enough credible information to make the whole product look respectable.”

    It is now widely known that the Democrats ponied up the “insurance premiums,” so to speak, for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s “dossier” of lurid — but largely unproven — “intelligence” on Trump and the Russians. If, as many have concluded, the dossier was used to help justify a FISA warrant to snoop on the Trump campaign, those involved will be in deep kimchi, if congressional overseers do their job.

    How, you might ask, could Strzok and associates undertake these extra-legal steps with such blithe disregard for the possible consequences should they be caught? The answer is easy; Mrs. Clinton was a shoo-in, remember? This was just extra insurance with no expectation of any “death benefit” ever coming into play — save for Trump’s electoral demise in November 2016.

    The attitude seemed to be that, if abuse of the FISA law should eventually be discovered — there would be little interest in a serious investigation by the editors of The New York Times and other anti-Trump publications and whatever troubles remained could be handled by President Hillary Clinton.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, who chairs the Judiciary Subcommittee of Judiciary on Crime and Terrorism, joined Sen. Grassley in signing the letter referring Christopher Steele to the Justice Department to investigate what appear to be false statements about the dossier. In signing, Graham noted the “many stop signs the Department of Justice ignored in its use of the dossier.”

    The signature of committee ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, however, was missing — an early sign that a highly partisan battle royale is in the offing. On Tuesday, Feinstein unilaterally released a voluminous transcript of Glenn Simpson’s earlier testimony and, as though on cue, Establishment pundits portrayed Steele as a good source and Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson as a victim.

    The Donnybrook is now underway; the outcome uncertain.

    Ray McGovern
    http://raymcgovern.com/

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    Sample text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, released to Congress and the media on December 13, 2016

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    03/04/2016

    Strzok – God Hillary should win. 100,000,000-0.

    Page – I know

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    04/02/2016

    Page – So look, you say we text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it can’t be traced, you were just venting, bc you feel bad that you’re gone so much but that can’t be helped right now.

    ++++++++++

    07/08/2016

    Strzok – And meanwhile, we have Black Lives Matter protestors, right now, chanting “no justice no peace” around DoJ and the White House…

    Page – That’s awful.

    +++++++++

    07/14/2016

    Page – Have you read this? It’s really frightening. For Whites Sensing Decline, Donald Trump Unleashes Words of Resistance http://nyti/ms/ 29WCu5!

    Strzok – I have not. But I think it’s clear he’s capturing all the white, poor voters who the mainstream republicans abandoned in all but name in the quest for the almighty $$$

    Page – Yeah, it’s not good.

    Strzok – Poll Finds Emails Weighing on Hillary Clinton, Now Tied With Donald Trump http://nyti.ms/29RV5gf

    Page – It is

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    07/26/2016

    Strzok – And hey. Congrats on a woman nominated for President in a major party! About damn time! Many many more returns of the day!!

    Page – That’s cute. Thanks

    ++++++++++

    08/06/2016

    Page – Jesus. You should read this. And Trump should go f himself. Moment in Convention Glare Shakes Up Khans American Life http://nyti.ms/2aHulE0

    Strzok – God that’s a great article. Thanks for sharing. And F TRUMP.

    ++++++++

    08/06/2016

    Page – And maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace. To that end comma, read this:

    Page – Trump Enablers Will Finally Have to Take A Stand http://nyti.ms/2aFakry

    Strzok – Thanks. It’s absolutely true that we’re both very fortunate. And of course I’ll try and approach it that way. I just know it will be tough at times. I can protect our country at many levels, not sure if that helps

    ++++++++++++

    08/09/2016

    Page – He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!

    Strzok – OMG did you hear what Trump just said?

    +++++++++++

    08/26/2016

    Strzok – Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…

    Page – Yep. Out to lunch with (redacted) We both hate everyone and everything.

    Page – Just riffing on the hot mess that is our country.

    Strzok – Yeah…it’s scary real down here

    +++++++++

    10/20/2016

    Strzok: I am riled up. Trump is a f***ing idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.

    Strzok – I CAN’T PULL AWAY, WHAT THE F**K HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY (redacted)??!?!

    Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock.

    Strzok– Donald just said “bad hombres”

    Strzok– Trump just said what the FBI did is disgraceful.

    END

    Citation
    [1] http://www.unz.com/article/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/

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    Hey NT;

    First of all don’t apologise for that rant – that’s why we’re here.

    He told me about what my x was doing and who she was dating.

    I had to tell the people in my life who were doing this to stop immediately. My mother was the worst for this and I had to tell her straight. She’s not part of your life anymore & what she does HAS NO IMPACT on the trajectory of your life.

    my xwifes brother in law called me…He was ok so I answered it

    He’s not okay. He may have been a nice guy when you knew him, but now a year later he’s a different guy. A good man WOULD NOT call you to fill you in about your ex wife.

    I spiraled down checking her online activities and what I learned sent me into a tail spin…

    This is bad mate. You should be disappointed with this one! If i remember correctly you don’t have kids right? – so there’s no reason to have her on social media.

    I didn’t have enough strength to delete her immediately so I started with blocking her from my timeline. Then I just deleted my accounts. That wasn’t for her, or anyone else. It was for me, as PART OF MY RECOVERY.

    She isn’t going to put her life on hold for you and you shouldn’t do the same. Seeing what she’s doing will only hold you back.

    REMEMBER, people only post their ‘perfect’ lives online. What you’ve seen in an exaggerated life. She’s no doubt running some other chump to the plantation or spreading her legs for attention.

    Don’t take it to heart. It’s their nature. It’s how they survive. You know this.

    Perhaps it is the finality of realizing that a womans love is fleeting and an illusion

    One of the coldest RP truths here mate. I wrote in a post yesterday: I see new women through a new lens to the one I spent 8 years with.

    I’m totally indifferent to new women now BUT I stay away from Cupcake because I know I have a weakness for her. It’s difficult, it’s hard, but you have to do it for you.

    In that short time of spiraling down I gorged on ice cream, junk foods just abusing my body…

    A few days relapse is fine mate. Pick yourself up and keep moving forward. Don’t let her ruin another year of your life. She doesn’t care.

    Its a big mistake to “test” if you are over your ex or not…Do not seek her out…Keep going forward…

    Listen to your own advice bro. There will be good days and hard days. I still have a mix of the two…but one day, we’ll look back and laugh together.

    Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT
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    On the road in Afghanistan – Lies, legends and myths [1]

    Andre Vltchek
    The Saker
    Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:00 UTC

    André Vltchek is a USSR-born American political analyst, journalist, and a filmmaker. Vltchek was born in St. Petersburg but later became a naturalized U.S. citizen. He has lived in the US, Chile, Peru, Mexico, Vietnam, Samoa and Indonesia.

    He has covered armed conflicts in Peru, Kashmir, Mexico, Bosnia, Sri Lanka, Congo, India, South Africa, East Timor, Indonesia, Turkey and the Middle East. He has traveled to more than 140 countries,[3][5] and has written articles for Der Spiegel, Asahi Shimbun, The Guardian, ABC News and Lidové noviny. Since 2004, Vltchek has served as a Senior Fellow at the Oakland Institute.

    [Y: This is a long post as it traces both the Russian and Western interventions in Afghanistan and what the Afghani really think of these powers and their place within their own country.

    I can say I have not had a better look inside Afghanistan than through this article that gives voice to a people almost forgotten by recent history. The Afghanis shall not be forgotten.

    The Soviet War in Afghanistan was a nine-year period involving the Soviet forces and the CIA-backed Mujahideen insurgents (forerunners of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban) that were fighting to overthrow Afghanistan’s Marxist People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) government. The Soviet Union supported the government while the rebels found support from a variety of sources including the United States (in the context of the Cold War) and Pakistan. The conflict was a proxy war between the two super-powers, who never actually met in direct confrontation. Y]

    Driving

      André Vltchek driving in Afghanistan

    It often appears that “true Afghanistan” is not here in Kabul and not in Jalalabad or Heart either; not in the ancient villages, which anxiously cling to the steep mountainsides.

    Many foreigners and even Afghans are now convinced that the “true” Afghanistan is only what is being shown on the television screens, depicted in magazines, or what is buried deep in the archives and libraries somewhere in London, New York or Paris.

    It is tempting to think that the country could be only understood from a comfortable distance, from the safety of one’s living room or from those books and publications decorating dusty bookshelves and coffee tables all over the world.

    “Afghanistan is dangerous,” they say. “It is too risky to travel there. One needs to be protected, escorted, equipped and insured in order to function in that wild and lawless country even for one single day, or just a few hours.”

    When it comes to Afghanistan, conditioned Western ‘rational brains’ of tenure or emeritus professors (or call them the ‘regime’s intellectual gatekeepers’) often get engaged, even intertwined with those pathologically imaginative minds of the upper class ‘refugees’, the ‘elites’, and of course their offspring. After all, crème de la crème ‘refugees’ speak perfect English; they know the rules and nuances of the game. The results of such ‘productive interaction’ are then imprinted into countless books and reports.

    Books of that kind become, in turn, what could be easily defined as the ‘official references’, a ‘certified way’ to how our world perceives a country like Afghanistan. Their content is being quoted and recycled.

    How often I heard, from the old veteran opinion makers (even those from the ‘left’) – people that I actually used to respect in the past:

    “The Soviet era in Afghanistan was of course terrible, but at least many girls there had access to the education…”

    It is no secret that ‘many girls had access to education’ in those distant days, but was it really “terrible”, that era? Was it “of course, terrible?” Baseless clichés like this are actually shaping ‘public opinion’, and can be much more destructive than the hardcore propaganda.

    Most of those old gurus never set foot in Afghanistan, during the Soviet era or before, let alone after. All their ‘experience’ is second or third-hand, constructed mainly on sponging up bitterness from those who betrayed their own country and have been collaborating with the West, or at least on the confusion and mental breakdowns of their children.

    Based on such recycled unconfirmed ‘facts’, bizarre theories are born. According to them, Afghanistan is ‘officially’ wrecked; it is hopelessly corrupt; it is beyond salvation and repair. It is ‘so divided, ethnically and otherwise’, that it can never function again as one entity.

    Then come liberals, and the children of corrupt Afghan diplomats and exiled ‘elites’, who commonly justify their passivity by blaming the entire world for the destruction of their nation: “every country in the world just wants to harm Afghanistan, take shamelessly advantage of it.”

    Naturally, if everybody is responsible, than nobody truly is. Therefore, as expected, ‘the grand conclusion’ is – “There is absolutely no hope.” Everyone who can is trying to leave; who in his or her right mind would want to dwell in such mayhem?”

    Let’s just write the entire place off! Chapter closed. One of the greatest cultures on Earth is finished. Nothing can be done about it. Goodbye, Afghanistan! Ciao, bella!

    For some, especially for those who left the country and slammed the door, it is a tempting and ‘reassuring’ way of looking at the state of things. It justifies their earlier decision. If one accepts such views, than nothing has to be done, because no matter what, things would never improve, anyway.

    For many, especially for those who are benefiting (even making careers) from doing absolutely nothing to save Afghanistan, such an approach and such theories are actually perfect. Very little of it matters to them, that almost all of this is total rubbish!

      The Hindu Kush Mountains of Afghanistan

    I never saw any of those professors from the MIT or Cornell University anywhere near the dusty roads cutting through Samar Khel or Charikar. I never saw any reporters from the Western mass media outlets here, in the deepest villages that keep changing hands between Taliban and the government forces, either.

    If they were here, I’d definitely spot them, as they tend to travel ‘in style’, like some buffoons from bygone eras: wearing ridiculous helmets, bulletproof vests, and PRESS insignias on all imaginable and unimaginable parts of their bodies, while being driven around in armored vehicles, often even with a full military escort.

    It would be quite difficult to talk to Afghan people looking like that. There is not much one could actually even see from such an angle and perspective, but that’s the only one they are choosing to have, that is if they come here at all.

    Let me back-track a bit: in case my readers in the West or elsewhere have never heard about Samar Khel. Well, it is a dusty town not far from Jalalabad, a former ‘grave’ for the Soviet forces and the National Afghan Army. During the “Soviet era”, the US and the Saudi-backed Mujahedeen used to fire between 500 and 1,000 missiles from here, all directly towards the city of Jalalabad, day after day.

    It is very hard to imagine what went on and what went wrong in Afghanistan during the 1980’s, without feeling that 43*C heat of the desert, without chewing dust, without facing those bare, hostile mountains, and without speaking to people who used to live here during ‘those days’, as well as people who have been existing, barely surviving here now.

      Soviet soldiers direct tank traffic outside Kabul on January 7, 1980. Tank units had set up positions all around the capital city

    It is also absolutely impossible to understand the Soviet Union and its ‘involvement’ in Afghanistan, without driving through the countryside and all of a sudden spotting in some ancient and god-forsaken village, a mighty and durable water duct built by Soviet engineers several decades ago, with electricity towers and high voltage wires still proudly spanning above.

    By now I know that I don’t want to write another academic book. I wrote two of them, one about Indonesia and one about that enormous sprawl of water dotted with fantastic but devastated islands and atolls of the South Pacific – “Oceania”. To write academic books is time consuming and it is, in many ways, ‘selfish’.

    The true story gets buried under an avalanche of tedious facts and numbers, under footnotes and recycled quotes. Once such a book is read and returned to its place on a shelf, no one is really inspired or outraged, no one is terrified and no one is ready to build barricades and fight.

    But most academic books and are never even read from cover to cover.

    I see no point in writing books that wouldn’t inspire people to raise flags, to fight for their country and humanity.

    I don’t work in Afghanistan in order to compile indexes and footnotes. I am there because the country itself is a victim of the most brutal and ongoing imperialist destruction in modern history. As an internationalist, I’m not here only to document; I’m here to accuse and to confront the venomous Western colonialist narrative frontally.

    Afghanistan is bleeding, assaulted and terribly injured. Therefore it deserves to be fought for and not just to be analyzed and described. No cold and detached historic accounts, no texts written from a safe distance, can help this beautiful country to stand on its own feet, to regain its pride and hope, and to fly as it used to in the not so distant past.

    It doesn’t need more and more nihilism. On the contrary, it is thirsting for optimism, for new friends, for hope.

    Not all countries are the same. Even now, Afghanistan has friends, true friends, no matter how much this fact is being obscured by the Western propagandists, no matter how much pro-Western Afghan elites are trying to prove otherwise.

    This is not what you are supposed to be reading. All remembrances of the “Soviet Era” in Afghanistan have been boxed and then labeled as “negative”, even “toxic”. No discussion on the topic is allowed in ‘polite circles’, at least in the West and in Afghanistan itself.

    Afghanistan is where the Soviet Union was tricked into, and Afghanistan is where the Communist superpower received its final blow. ‘The victory of capitalism over communism’, the official Western narrative shouted. A ‘temporary destruction of all progressive alternatives for our humanity’, replied others, but mostly under their breath.

    After the horrific, brutal and humiliating period of Gorbachev/Yeltsin, Russia shrunk both geographically and demographically, while going through indescribable agony. It hemorrhaged; it was bathing in its own excrement, while the West celebrated its temporary victory, dancing in front of the world map, envisioning the re-conquest of its former colonies.

    But in the end Russia survived, regained its bearings and dignity, and once again became one of the most important countries on Earth, directly antagonistic to the global Western imperialist designs.

    Afghanistan has never recovered. After the last Soviet combat troops left the country in 1989, it bled terribly for years, consumed by a brutal civil war. Its progressive government had to face the monstrous terror of the Western and Saudi-backed Mujahedeen, with individuals like Osama bin Laden in command of the jihadi genocide.

    Socialists, Communists, secularists as well as almost all of those who were educated in the former Soviet Union or Eastern Block countries, were killed, exiled, or muzzled for decades.

    Most of those who settled in the West simply betrayed; went along with the official Western narrative and dogma.

    Even those individuals who still claimed to be part of the left, repeated like parrots, their pre-approved fib:

      “Perhaps the Soviet Union was not as bad as the Mujahedeen, Taliban, or even the West, but it was really bad enough.”

    I heard these lines in London and elsewhere, coming from several mouths of the corrupt Afghan ‘elites’ and their children. From the beginning I was doubtful. And then my work, my journeys to and through Afghanistan began. I spoke to dozens of people all over the country, doing exactly what I was discouraged to do: driving everywhere without an escort or protection, stopping in the middle of god-forsaken villages, entering fatal city slums infested with narcotics, approaching prominent intellectuals in Kabul, Jalalabad and elsewhere.

    market

      An Afghan marketplace scene in Kabul

    “Where are you from?” I was asked on many occasions.

    “Russia,” I’d reply. It was a gross simplification. I was born in Leningrad, now St Petersburg, but an incredible mixture of Chinese, Russian, Czech and Austrian blood circles through my veins. Still, the name “Russia” came naturally to me, in the middle of Afghan deserts and deep gorges, especially in those places where I knew that my life was hanging on a thin thread. If I were to be allowed to utter one last word in this life, “Russia” was what I wanted it to be.

    But after my declaration, the faces of the Afghan people would soften, unexpectedly and suddenly. “Welcome!” I’d hear again and again. An invitation to enter humble homes would follow: an offer to rest, to eat, or to just drink a glass of water.

    ‘Why?’ I often wondered. “Why?” I finally asked my driver and interpreter, Mr. Arif, who became my dear friend.

    “It’s because in this country, Afghans love Russian people,” he replied simply and without any hesitation.

    “Afghans love Russians?” I wondered. “Do you?”

    “Yes,” he replied, smiling. “I do. Most of our people here do.”

    Two days later I was sitting inside an armored UNESCO Land Cruiser, talking to a former Soviet-trained engineer, now a simple driver, Mr. Wahed Tooryalai. He allowed me to use his name; he had no fear, just accumulated anger, which he obviously wanted to get out of his system:

    “When I sleep, I still sometimes see the former Soviet Union in my dreams. After that, I wake up and feel happy for one entire month. I remember everything I saw there, until now…”

    I wanted to know what really made him so happy ‘there’?

    Mr. Wahed did not hesitate:

    “People! They are so kind. They are welcoming… Russians, Ukrainians… I felt so much at home there. Their culture is exactly like ours. Those who say that Russians ‘occupied’ Afghanistan have simply sold out. The Russians did so much for Afghanistan: they built entire housing communities like ‘Makroyan’, they built factories, even bakeries. In places such as Kandahar, people are still eating Russian bread…”

    I recalled the Soviet-era water pipes that I photographed all over most of the humble Afghan countryside, as well as the elaborate water canals in and around cities like Jalalabad.

      Soviet-built water pipeline from the 1980’s

    “There is so much propaganda against the Soviet Union,” I said.

    “Only the Mujahedeen and the West hate Russians,” Mr. Wahed explained. “And those who are serving them.”

    Then he continued:

    “Almost all poor Afghan people would never say anything bad about Russians. But the government people are with the West, as well as those Afghan elites who are now living abroad: those who are buying real estate in London and Dubai, while selling their own country…those who are paid to ‘create public opinion.'”

    His words flowed effortlessly; he knew precisely what he wanted to say, and they were bitter, but it was clearly what he felt:

    “Before and during the Soviet era, there were Soviet doctors here, and also Soviet teachers. Now show me one doctor or teacher from the USA or UK based in the Afghan countryside! Russians were everywhere, and I still even remember some names: Lyudmila Nikolayevna… Show me one Western doctor or nurse based here now.

    “Before, Russian doctors and nurses were working all over the country, and their salaries were so low… They spent half on their own living expenses, and the other half they distributed amongst our poor… Now look what the Americans and Europeans are doing: they all came here to make money!”

    I recall my recent encounter with a Georgian combatant, serving under the US command at the Bagram base. Desperate, he recalled his experience to me:

    “Before Bagram I served at the Leatherneck US Base, in Helmand Province. When the Americans were leaving, they even used to pull out concrete from the ground. They joked: “When we came here, there was nothing, and there will be nothing after we leave…”

    “They prohibited us from giving food to local children. What we couldn’t consume, we had to destroy, but never give to local people. I still don’t understand, why? Those who come from the US or Western Europe are showing so much spite for the Afghan people!”

    What a contrast!

    Mr. Wahed recalled how the Soviet legacy was abruptly uprooted:

    “After the Taliban era, we were all poor. There was hunger; we had nothing. Then the West came and began throwing money all around the place. Karzai and the elites kept grabbing all that they could, while repeating like parrots: “The US is good!” Diplomats serving Karzai’s government, the elites, they were building their houses in the US and UK, while people educated in the Soviet Union couldn’t get any decent jobs.

    We were all blacklisted. All education had to be dictated by the West. If you were educated in the USSR, Czechoslovakia, East Germany or Bulgaria, they’d just tell you straight to your face: Out with you, Communist! At least now we are allowed to at least get some jobs… We are still pure, clean, never corrupt!”

    “Do people still remember?” I wonder.

    “Of course they do! Go to the streets, or to a village market. Just tell them: “How are you my dear?” in Russian. They’d immediately invite you to their homes, feed you, embrace you…”

    I tried a few days later, in the middle of the market… and it worked. I tried in a provincial town, and it worked again. I finally tried in a Taliban-infiltrated village some 60 kilometers from Kabul, and there it didn’t. But I still managed to get away.

    Afghan village marketplace

      An Afghan village market

    I met Mr. Shakar Karimi in Pole Charkhi Village. A local patriarch, he used to be a district chief in Nangarhar Province.

    I asked him, what the best system ever implemented in modern Afghanistan was?

    First he spoke about the Khan dynasty, but then referred to a left-wing Afghan leader, who was brutally tortured and murdered by Taliban after they entered Kabul in 1996:

    “If they’d let Dr. Najib govern in peace, that would have been the best for Afghanistan!”

    I asked him about the Soviet invasion in 1979.

    “They came because they were given wrong information. The first mistake was to enter Afghanistan. The second, fatal mistake was to leave.”

    “What was the main difference between the Russians and Westerners during their engagement in Afghanistan?”

    “The Russian people came predominately to serve, to help Afghanistan. The relationship between Russians and Afghans was always great. There was real friendship and people were interacting, even having parties together, visiting each other.”

    I didn’t push him further; didn’t ask what was happening now. It was just too obvious. “Enormous walls and high voltage wires,” would be the answer. Drone zeppelins, weapons everywhere and an absolute lack of trust… and the shameless division between the few super rich and the great majority of the desperately poor… the most depressed country on the Asian continent.

    Later I asked my comrade Arif, whether all this was really true?

    “Of course!” He shouted, passionately. “100% true. The Russians built roads, they built homes for our people, and they treated Afghans so well, like their brothers. The Americans never did anything for Afghanistan, almost nothing. They only care about their own benefits.”

    “If there would be a referendum right now, on a simple question: ‘do you want Afghanistan to be with Russia or with the United States, the great majority would vote for Russia, never for the US or Europe. And you know why? I’m Afghan: when my country is good, then I’m happy. If my country is doing bad, then I suffer! Most people here, unless they are brainwashed or corrupted by the Westerners, know perfectly well what Russia did for this country. And they know how the West injured our land.”

    Western War on 'terror'

      After the West intervened….

    Of course this is not what every single Afghan person thinks, but most of them definitely do. Just go and drive to each and every corner of the country, and ask. You are not supposed to, of course. You are told to be scared to come here, to roam through this “lawless” land.

    “And you are not supposed to go directly to the people. Instead you are expected to recycle the writings of toothless, cowardly academics, as well as servile mass media reports. If you are liberal, you are at least expected to say: “there is no hope, no solution, no future.”

    At Goga Manda village, the fighting between the Taliban and government troops is still raging. All around the area, the remnants of rusty Soviet military hardware can be found, as well as old destroyed houses from the “Soviet era” battles.

    The Taliban is positioned right behind the hills. Its fighters attack the armed forces of Afghanistan at least once a month.

    Almost 16 years after the NATO invasion and consequent occupation of the country, this village, as thousands of other villages in Afghanistan, has no access to electricity, and to drinking water. There is no school within walking distance, and even a small and badly equipped medical post is far from here, some 5 kilometers away. Here, an average family of 6 has to survive on US$130 dollars per month, and that’s only if some members are actually working in the city.

    I ask Mr. Rahmat Gul, who used to be a teacher in a nearby town, whether the “Russian times” were better.

    He hesitated for almost one minute, and then replied vaguely:

    “When the Russians were here, there was lots of shooting… It was real war… People used to die. During the jihad period, the Mujahedeen were positioned over there… they were shooting from those hills, while Soviet tanks were stationed near the river. Many civilians were caught in the crossfire.”

    As I got ready to ask him more questions, my interpreter began to panic:

    “Let’s go! Taliban is coming.”

    He’s always calm. When he gets nervous, I know it is really time to run. We ran; just stepping on the accelerator and driving at breakneck speed towards the main road.

    Before we parted, Mr. Wahed Tooryalai grabbed my hand. I knew he wanted to say something essential. I waited for him to formulate it. Then it came, in rusty but still excellent Russian:

    “Sometimes I feel so hurt, so angry. Why did Gorbachev abandon us? Why? We were doing just fine. Why did he leave us? If he hadn’t betrayed us, life in Afghanistan would be great. I wouldn’t have to be a UN driver… I used to be the deputy director of an enormous bread factory, with 300 people working there: we were building our beloved country, feeding it. I hope Putin will not leave us.”

      Band-e Sardeh Dam built by the USSR

    [Y: Soviet-built projects helped bring about development and social change in Afghanistan in the 1960s and 70s. Many of these infrastructure projects have survived war and are still operational Y]

    Then he looked at me, straight into my eyes, and suddenly I got goose bumps as he spoke, and my glasses got foggy:

    “Please tell Mr. Putin: do hold our hand, as I’m now holding yours. Tell him what you saw in my country; tell him that we Afghans, or at least many of us, are still straight, strong and honest people. All this will end, and we will send the Americans and Europeans packing. It will happen very soon. Then please come and stand by us, by true Afghan patriots! We are here, ready and waiting. Come back, please.”

    A son of the super elite Afghan ‘exiles’ living in London, once ‘shouted’ at me, via Whatsapp, after I dared to criticize one of the officially-recognized gurus of the Western anti-communist left, who happened to be his religiously admired deity:

      “I’m completely amazed that you’d do such a thing. Then again, you’re Russian… And Russians held a strange superiority complex about dominating the whole Asian and African continents – even when nobody invited or asked them to. Historical examples are plenty… Don’t go to a country to report about what’s actually going on when you can’t even speak the language!”

    This was his tough verdict on Russia and on my work; a verdict of ‘Afghan man in London’, who never even touched work in his entire life, being fully sustained by his morally corrupted family. He never traveled much, except when his father took him on one of the official diplomatic visits.

    He has been drinking, taking drugs and hating everything that fights, that defies the Empire. From President Duterte in the Philippines, to Maduro in Venezuela, and Assad in Syria. After he was taken out of Afghanistan at an extremely early age, he never set foot on its soil.

    All of his knowledge was accumulated ‘second-hand’, but he is quick to pass endless moral judgments, and he is actually taken seriously by one of the most influential and famous ‘opposition’ figures in the West.

    It is because he is an Afghan, after all, and because he has a perfect English accent, and his ‘conclusions’ are ‘reasonable’, at least to some extent acceptable by the regime, and therefore trustworthy. He and others like him know perfectly well when to administer the required dose of anti-Soviet and anti-Russian sentiments, or when to choose well-tolerated anarcho-syndicalism over true revolutionary fervor.

    Again in London, a lady from an Afghan diplomatic circle, who still takes pride in being somehow left-leaning (despite her recent history of serving the West), recalled with nostalgia and boasting pride:

    “Once when I got sick, I travelled with my husband from Kabul to Prague, for medical treatment. It was in 80’s, and we took with us 5,000 dollars. You know, in those days in Czechoslovakia this was so much money! Our friends there never saw so much cash in their lives. We really had great time there.”

    I listened politely and thought: ‘Damn, in those days, my two Czech uncles were building sugar mills, steel factories and turbines for developing countries like Syria, Egypt, Lebanon. I’m not sure whether they also worked in Afghanistan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. It was their internationalist duty and they were hardly making US$500 per month. The salary of my father, a leading nuclear scientist, who was in charge of the safety of VVR power plant reactors, was at that time (and at the real exchange) well under US$200 a month.

    These were very honest, hard-working people, doing their duty towards humanity. And then someone came from Kabul, from the capital of one of the poorest countries in Asia, recipient of aid and internationalist help from basically all Soviet Block countries, and blows 5.000 bomb in just a few days!’

    In those days, socialist Czechoslovakia was helping intensively, various revolutionary and anti-colonialist movements, all over the world. Even Ernesto Che Guevara was treated there, between his campaign in Congo, and his final engagement in Bolivia.

    But the lady did not finish, yet:

    “Once we crossed the border and travelled to the Soviet Union by land. You cannot imagine the misery we encountered in the villages, across the border! Life was much tougher there than on our side. Of course Moscow was different: Moscow was the capital, full of lights, truly impressive…”

    Was that really so? Or was this official narrative that has been injected through the treasonous elites into the psyche of both Afghans and foreigners?

    I listened, politely. I like stories, no matter from which direction they are coming. I took mental notes.

    Then, back in Afghanistan, I asked Mr. Shakar Karimi point blank:

    “You were travelling back and forth, between Afghanistan and the former Soviet Union. Was life in the Afghan countryside better than in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan?”

    He stared at me, shocked. When my question finally fully sank into his brain, he began laughing:

    “Soviet villages were so much richer, there could not be any comparison. They had all necessary facilities there, from electricity to water, schools and medical posts, even public transportation: either train or at least a bus. No one could deny this, unless they’d be totally blind or someone would pay them not to see!

    Of course Tashkent, capital of Uzbekistan, was totally different story: it was a huge and very important Soviet city, with theaters, museums, parks, hospitals and universities. But even the villages were, for us, shockingly wealthy. Culture at both sides of the border was, however, similar. And while the Soviets were engaged here in Afghanistan, things began developing at our side of the border, too.”

    But who would listen to Mr. Shakar Karimi from Pole Charkhi Village, on the outskirts of Kabul. He hardly spoke English, and he had no idea how to be diplomatic and ‘acceptable’ to Londoners or New Yorkers. And what he was saying was not what was expected from the Afghans to say.

    During my previous trip to Afghanistan, over the phone from Kabul, I suggested to my friend, another ‘elite’ Afghan exile, that the next time she should come with me, at least for a few days, in order to reconnect, to breath the air of the city that she has been claiming she missed so desperately, for so many years. Reply was curt, but somehow predictable:

    “Me, coming back like this; incognito? You don’t understand, my family is so important! When I finally go back, it will be a big, big deal!”

    It is very strange, but Afghans that I know from Afghanistan are totally different from those I meet in Europe and North America. So are Afghans who are going back, regularly, to their beloved country, and who are ‘connected’, even engaged.

    In Rome, I met Afghan Princess Soraya. I was invited to Italy by several left-wing MP’s representing 5 Stelli (‘5 Star Movement’) and during our lunch together, when learning about my engagement in Afghanistan, they exclaimed: “You have to meet ‘our’ Afghan Princess!”

    They called her on a mobile phone. She was in her 60s, but immediately she jumped on her bicycle and pedaled to the Parliament area in order to meet me. She was shockingly unpretentious, and endlessly kind. With her, nothing was a ‘big deal’. “Come meet me in the evening in the old Jewish Ghetto,” she suggested. “There will be an opening of a very interesting art exhibition there, in one of the galleries.”

      Princess Soraya of Afghanistan

    We met again, in the evening. She was very critical of the occupation of her country by the NATO forces. She had no fear, nothing to hide. She had no need to play political games.

    “I’m going back to Kandahar, in couple of weeks. Please let me know when you are going back to my country. I’ll arrange things for you. We’ll show you around Kandahar.”

    In the meantime, I got used to Afghanistan; to its terrain, its stunning beauty, to its bitter cold in the winter and stifling heat of the summers, to its curtness, its exaggerated politeness and even to its hardly bearable roughness, which always surfaces at least once in a while.

    But I never got used to all of those upper-class ‘refugees’, people who have left Afghanistan permanently; to those who later betrayed, and then betrayed again, spreading false information about their country, serving Western media/propaganda outlets or as diplomats of the puppet state abroad, making a lucrative living out of their treason and out of the misery of their own people. I don’t think that I will ever get used to them. In a way, they are even worse than NATO, or at least equally as bad, and more deadly and venomous than the Taliban.

    There are many ways how one can betray his or her country. There are also countless reasons and justifications for treason. Historically, Western colonialists developed entire networks of local, “native” collaborators, all over the world. These people have been ready and willing to run down their devastated countries, on behalf of the European and later, US imperialists, in exchange for prominent positions, titles and ‘respect’. Unfortunately, Afghanistan is not an exception.

    On 21 January 2010, even Kabul Press had apparently enough, and it published damning article “Afghan UN Ambassador’s $4.2 million Manhattan apartment” (https://www.kabulpress.org/article4590.html), referring to the super-luxury residence of then Afghan UN Ambassador, Zahir Tanin:

      “Among the billions of dollars being spent propping up the Karzai government are some choice bits of New York City real estate. Number 1 is a 2,400 sq. ft. 3-bedroom corner apartment in the Trump World Tower, one of the world’s most expensive addresses. It was chosen by Zahir Tanin, Afghanistan’s Ambassador to the United Nations, who lives there with his wife.”
      “According to Kabul press sources, eight other diplomats working in the Mission’s offices live about one hour away. The average rent for them is over $20,000 per month-extremely pricey even for Manhattan real estate. The previous Ambassador, Mr. Farhadi paid only $7,000 per month for all rent and expenses.”
      “Other ambassadors, like Taib Jawad (Afghan Abmassador to the U.S.) are living in luxury residences, why not me?” our source quotes Tanin as saying.”

    So many Afghans have left, many betrayed, but others are refusing to bend, remaining proud and honest.

    During my previous visit to the country, I worked along the road separating the districts 3 and 5 in Kabul, photographing literally decomposing bodies of drug-users.

    In June 2017 I returned, but this time I dared to film the people living under the bridges, and in deep infested hovels. Later I walked on the riverbank, trying to gain some perspective and to film from various angles.

      One of the ways of filming in Afghanistan

    Someone was making threatening gestures from the distance; someone else aimed a gun at me. I ducked for cover.

    “Not very welcoming place, is it?” I heard loud laughter behind my back. Someone spoke perfect English.

    I turned back. A well-dressed man approached me. We exchanged a few words. I explained what I was doing here and he understood immediately.

    “Here is my card,” he said. Muhammad Maroof (Sarwan), Vice-President of the Duniya Construction Company,” it read. He continued:

    “I came to this warehouse here to deliver my products, and I saw you filming. You’re lucky you were not hit by a bullet.”

    “I want to talk,” he said, pointing his hand at the bridge. “Don’t film me, just take notes. You can quote me, even use my name.”

    He explained that he used to work for the US military, as an interpreter.

    Then he began speaking, clearly and coherently:

    “The biggest mafias here are directly linked to both UK and US. The West lies that they want to stop trade with drugs in Afghanistan; they never will allow it to stop.”

    “My brother is a writer and he has images of the U.S. army giving water pumps, studs and other basic stuff, for the growth of poppies. The biggest supporter of drugs production in Afghanistan, and the export, is the UK government. They are dealing directly with the locals, even giving them money…

      Poppy growing next to US airforce base in Bagram, Afghanistan

    The UK is also the major market for the export. Helmand, Kandahar, you name it, from there, directly, transport planes are taking off and going straight towards Europe, even the US. The Westerners are people who physically put drugs into the airplane at our airports.”

    “My relative was an interpreter for the British… He was killed by them, after he had been witnessing and interpreting at a meeting between the UK officials, and the local drug mafias.”

    I was wondering whether he was certain he wanted to speak on the record. My interpreter was standing by, apparently impressed by what he was witnessing. Mr. Maroof did not hesitate:

    “I have nothing to hide. They are destroying my country right in front of my eyes. What could be more horrifying than that? The Western occupation is ruining Afghanistan. I want the world to be aware of it, and I don’t care what could happen to me!”

    Not all the opposition to the present regime in Kabul is fighting for true independence and progressive ideals. Some have close links with the West, or/and with the Mujahedeen.

    In Kabul, in June 2017, inside a makeshift camp built near the site of a devastating explosion which in May killed at least 90 people, injuring 400, I met with Ramish Noori, the spokesperson of Haji Zahir Qadir’s “Uprising for Change”. The powerful “Uprising” counts on at least a 1,000-men strong militia, one which is locked in brutal combat with ISIS (Daesh), and which has already beheaded several terrorist fighters in ‘retaliatory’ actions.

    Mr. Noory clearly indicated that the goal of his group is to force the present government to resign, even if that would have to happen with the help of foreign countries:

    “We were shot at in Kabul and 6 protesters were killed, 21 injured. Professional Special Forces of Ashraf Ghani shot those who were killed point blank, in the face. Instead of killing terrorists, this government is killing innocent protesters; people who came to demand security after that barbaric terrorist attack which took lives of 90 people. We actually believe that many government officials are responsible for the killings. We also think that the government is helping to coordinate attacks of the terrorists.”

    Mr. Samir, one of the protesters, began shouting in anger:

    “The government is killing its own people, and so we want both Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah to resign. We want an entire reset of the Afghan system. Look what is happening all around the country: killings, bomb blasts and unbridled corruption!”

    But when I press them hard, I feel that behind their words there is no sound ideology, just geographically swappable ‘civil society talk’. And perhaps some power struggle as well.

    I don’t know who is supporting them, who is behind them, but I feel that someone definitely is. What they say is right, but it is how they say it that worries me.

    I ask Ramish Noori about the NATO occupation of Afghanistan, and suddenly there is a long pause. Then a brief answer in a slightly uncomfortable tone of voice:

    “We are ready to work with any country that is supporting our position.”

    “Can I stop by later today?” I ask.

    “Of course. Anytime. We’ll be here till the morning. We are expecting the Mujahedeen to join us in the early hours.”

    “Mujahedeen?”

    Next time I will investigate further.

    I visited the British Cemetery in Kabul. Not out of some perverse curiosity, but because, during my last visit, I was given this tip by a Russian cultural attaché:

    “See how patient, how tolerant Afghan people are… After all that has been done to them…”

    I’m glad that I went. The cemetery puts the events of the last 2 centuries into clear perspective. To a clear British perspective…

    Full of patriotic sentimentality, The Telegraph once described this place as: “Afghanistan: The corner of Kabul that is forever England.”

    There was no repentance, no soul-searching, no questions asked, like: What was England doing here, thousands of miles away from its shores, again and again… and again?”

    Above the names of fallen English soldiers, there was a sober but unrepentant dedication:

    “This memorial is dedicated to all those British officers and soldiers who gave their lives in the Afghan wars of the 19th and 20th Century. Renovated by the officers and soldiers of the British Contingent of the International Security Assistance Force in Kabul. February 2002. “We Shall Remember Them””

    cemetary

      British Cemetary in Kabul

    The cemetery is well kept. There is no vandalism and no graffiti. In Afghanistan, the death of Englishmen, Spaniards and other foreigners is respected.

    Unfortunately, the death of Afghan people is not even worth commemorating, anymore.

    How many Afghans did those British troops massacre, in two long centuries? Shouldn’t there be a monument, somewhere in Kabul, to those thousands of victims of British imperialism? Perhaps there will be… one day, but not anytime soon.

    Again I drove to Bagram, filming the monstrous walls of the US military and air force base.

    Again I saw children with toy guns, running and imitating landing combat helicopters.

    Again I saw misery, right next to the gates of the base; poor women covered by burkas, babies in their arms, sitting in stifling heat on speed bumps, begging.

    I saw amputees, empty stares of poor local people.

    All this destitution, just a few steps away from tens of billions of dollars wasted on high-tech military equipment, which has succeeded in breaking the spirit of millions of Afghan people, but never in ‘liberating the country from terrorism’, or poverty.

    I drove to the village of Dashtak, in Panjshir Valley, to hear more stories about those jihadi cadres who were based here during the war with the Soviet Union.

    I was stopped, detained, interrogated, on several occasions, sometimes ten times per day: On the Afghan-Pakistani border which has recently experienced fighting between two countries, in Kabul, Jalalabad, Bargam. I lost track of who was who: police, army, security forces, local security forces, or militias?

    In front of Jalalabad Airport I tried to film an enormous US blimp drone, on its final approach before landing. I asked my driver to make a U-turn, my drift HD camera ready. One minute later, the military stopped the car, aiming its guns at us. I had to get out, put my hands on a wall, and surrender my mobile phones. After our identity was verified from Kabul, one of the soldiers explained:

    “Yesterday, exactly the same Toyota Corolla drove by, made the same U-turn and then blew itself up, next to this wall…”

    In Jalalabad, I spoke to a police officer wounded at the national Radio Television Afghanistan (RTA) station, during a terrorist attack.

    It all felt surreal. The entire country seems to be dissolving; yet it is refusing to fall, to collapse. It is still standing. And despite rubble, fighting and the insane cynicism of the elites, there is still hope, and even some optimism left.

    I’m trying to understand.

    “Afghans living abroad keep spreading false rumors that we are finished, that everybody wants to leave,” explains Arif, my driver and interpreter. “But it’s not true. More and more people want to stay home, to improve things, to rebuild our motherland. She is beautiful, isn’t she?”

    We are passing through a winding road, enormous mountains on both sides, and a river with crystal-clear water just a few meters away.

    “She is,” I say. “Of course she is.”

    We stopped near a small mosque, almost clinging to a cliff. It was the month of Ramadan. Arif was diligent; he went to pray. I also left the car and went to look into a deep and stunning ravine. Another car arrived; an off-roader, most likely an armored vehicle. The driver killed the engine. Three heavily armed men descended. They left their machine guns near the entrance to the mosque, washed their feet, and then went inside to pray.

    Before they entered, we all nodded at each other, politely.

    Surprisingly, I did not feel threatened. I never did, in Afghanistan.

    The scenery reminded me of South America, most likely of Chile – tremendous peaks, a deep valley, serpentines and powerful river down below.

    I felt strong and alive in Afghanistan. Many things have gone wrong in this country, but almost everything was clear, hardly any bulls~~~. Mountains were mountains, rivers were rivers, misery was misery and fighters were fighters, good or bad. I liked that. I liked that very much.

    “Arif,” I asked, sipping Argentinian jerba mate from my elaborate metal straw, as we were gradually approaching Kabul. It was Malta Cruz, a common, harsh mate, but a decent one.

    “Do you think I can get Afghan citizenship if we kick out Yanks and Europeans, defeat Taliban and Daesh, and rebuild socialist paradise here?”

    I was joking, just joking, after a long and exhausting day of work around Jalalabad.

    However, Arif looked suddenly very serious. He slowed the car down.

    “You like? You like Afghanistan that much?”

    “Hmmm,” I nodded.

    “I think, if we win, they’ll make sure to give you Afghan nationality,” he finally concluded.

    We were still very far from winning. After returning me to my hotel, he categorically refused to take money for his work. I insisted, but he kept refusing.

    It all felt somehow familiar and good. Back in my hotel room, exhausted, I collapsed onto the bed, fully dressed. I fell asleep immediately.

    Then, late at night, there were two loud explosions right under the hill.

    Afghanistan is here. You love it or hate it, or anything in between. But you cannot cheat: you are here and if you know how to see and feel, then you slowly begin to know. Or you are not here, and you cannot understand or judge it at all. No book can describe Afghanistan, and I’m wondering whether even films can. Maybe poetry can, maybe a theatre play or a novel can, but I’m not sure, yet.

    All I know is that it is alive, far from being finished. Its heart is pulsating; its body is warm. If someone tells you that it is finished, don’t trust him.

    Come and see for yourself; just watch and listen.

    Andre Vltchek
    http://andrevltchek.weebly.com/

    Citations
    [1] http://www.vineyardsaker.co.nz/2017/08/05/afghanistan-is-right-here-lies-myths-and-legends-by-andre-vltchek/

    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    Second time posting due to filters?

    The video is good sure.

    But This is what made me go whoa.. This GEM was hidden in the comment section. And it’s not like me to just leave something like this at ZERO F~~~ING LIKES after 4 months? Seems a little Odd.

    So let me share with you..

    Rey Dicuori
    4 months ago (On the day of July 6th 2018)

    MGTOW
    18 THINGS THAT FEMINISM HAS DESTROYED.

    1. Freedom of speech
    2. Marriage.
    3. The American legal system – Equal protection under the law.
    4. Chivalry.
    5. Your sex life.
    6. Good old fashioned manners.
    7. Nice guys.
    8. Love.
    9. Romance.
    10. Women
    11. THE FAMILY.
    12. Real human men.
    13. Campus ~courtship~.
    14. The ability to cook in one’s home.
    15. Masculinity and femininity.
    16. The middle class.
    17. The environment.
    18. And finally, civilisation itself.

    WHY FEMINISM WANTS TO DISMANTLE THE FAMILY (long)

    Like many isms before it (Communism, religions, cults), feminism seeks to dismantle the traditional family unit for its own gain. Why? To the ism, old loyalties are like bad habits interfering with an individual’s ability to pledge unwavering allegiance. Isms want control, but families tend to put family members and their needs before the demands of the ism, reducing the ism’s power and influence and therefore undermining its control.
    Throughout history, the family has been “the ultimate and only consistently subversive organization… the enduring permanent enemy of all hierarchies, churches and ideologies,” notes Ferdinand Mount, author of The Subversive Family.

    Mount describes the sequence past isms have followed once they “have hardened into orthodoxies:”

    First, hostility and propaganda to devalue family. The family is a source of trouble. It could distract apostles or potential apostles from following the new idea. The family is second-best, pedestrian, material, selfish.

    Alternative families are promoted — communes, party cadres, kibbutzes, monasteries.
    Feminist icons have not tried to hide their antipathy for the family unit:


    Gloria Steinem described marriage as “an arrangement for one and a half people.”


    Andrea Dworkin wrote, “How can anyone love someone who is less than a full person, unless love itself is domination per se?”


    Kate Millett wrote, “so long as every female, simply by virtue of her anatomy, is obliged, even forced, to be the sole or primary caretaker of childhood, she is prevented from being a free human being.”


    Betty Friedan wrote, “women who ‘adjust’ as housewives, who grow up wanting to be ‘just a housewife,’ are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps… they are suffering a slow death of mind and spirit.”


    Linda Gordon said, “the nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.”


    Robin Morgan said “We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.”


    Mary Jo Bane said, “in order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them.”


    Vivian Gornick said, “being a housewife is an illegitimate profession… The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family maker is a choice that shouldn’t be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that.”

    Helen Sullinger said, “We must work to destroy [marriage]… The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men… All of history must be rewritten in terms of oppression of women.”

    You’d think women seeking high-powered careers would be glad to enjoy less competition from other potential workers…
    “Not if you understand the feminist ideology,” say Suzanne Venker and the late Phyllis Schlafly, authors of The Flipside of Feminism.

    Key Points!

    1. Feminists realize all too well that they can never achieve a level playing field in the marketplace as long as their male competitors have the advantage of homemaker wives…

    2. Women on the left know that in order to get ahead more easily, they must deprive men of their advantage in having stay-at-home wives.

    3. The desire to eliminate the full-time homemaker has been feminists’ goal all along.

    4. The need for a second income was never the goal.

    MGTOW…Real Men Going Their Own Way…SLAVEMENT BEGINS WITH “I-DO”>>>FEMINISM IS CANCER…

    Marriages & Girlfriends Are Detrimental To Your Financial, Physical & Mental Health…

    WAKE UP & Open Your Eyes Manginas>>>There Is A War On Men & The Safest Way Is To Go MGTOW…

    The Fight Against Feminism Is A Fight For Humanity…
    HURT FEMINISM BY DOING NOTHING:
    · Don’t Help Women’s.
    · Don’t Fix Things For Women’s.
    · Don’t Support Women’s Issues.
    · Don’t Come To Women Defense.
    · Don’t Speak For Women’s.
    · Don’t Value Women’s Feelings.
    · Don’t Portray Women As Victims.
    · Don’t Protect Women.
    · Avoid Feminism Where It Can Be Helped.
    · Don’t Work With Feminist.
    · Don’t Befriend Feminist.
    · Don’t Engage With Feminist Under Any Circumstances.
    · Don’t Give Them Money.
    · Don’t Donate Money That Support Feminist Causes.

    WITHOUT WHITE KNIGHTS FEMINISM WOULD END TODAY…

    THE FEMINIST LIE WAS NEVER ABOUT EQUALITY..

    (Damn this sounds like ****** Almost smells like Tacos…

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    The video is good sure.

    But This is what made me go whoa.. This GEM was hidden in the comment section. And it’s not like me to just leave something like this at ZERO F~~~ING LIKES after 4 months? Seems a little Odd.

    So let me share with you..

    Rey Dicuori
    4 months ago (On the day of July 6th 2018)

    MGTOW
    18 THINGS THAT FEMINISM HAS DESTROYED.

    1. Freedom of speech
    2. Marriage.
    3. The American legal system – Equal protection under the law.
    4. Chivalry.
    5. Your sex life.
    6. Good old fashioned manners.
    7. Nice guys.
    8. Love.
    9. Romance.
    10. Women
    11. THE FAMILY.
    12. Real human men.
    13. Campus ~courtship~.
    14. The ability to cook in one’s home.
    15. Masculinity and femininity.
    16. The middle class.
    17. The environment.
    18. And finally, civilisation itself.

    WHY FEMINISM WANTS TO DISMANTLE THE FAMILY (long)

    Like many isms before it (Communism, religions, cults), feminism seeks to dismantle the traditional family unit for its own gain. Why? To the ism, old loyalties are like bad habits interfering with an individual’s ability to pledge unwavering allegiance. Isms want control, but families tend to put family members and their needs before the demands of the ism, reducing the ism’s power and influence and therefore undermining its control.
    Throughout history, the family has been “the ultimate and only consistently subversive organization… the enduring permanent enemy of all hierarchies, churches and ideologies,” notes Ferdinand Mount, author of The Subversive Family.

    Mount describes the sequence past isms have followed once they “have hardened into orthodoxies:”

    First, hostility and propaganda to devalue family. The family is a source of trouble. It could distract apostles or potential apostles from following the new idea. The family is second-best, pedestrian, material, selfish.

    Alternative families are promoted — communes, party cadres, kibbutzes, monasteries.
    Feminist icons have not tried to hide their antipathy for the family unit:


    Gloria Steinem described marriage as “an arrangement for one and a half people.”


    Andrea Dworkin wrote, “How can anyone love someone who is less than a full person, unless love itself is domination per se?”


    Kate Millett wrote, “so long as every female, simply by virtue of her anatomy, is obliged, even forced, to be the sole or primary caretaker of childhood, she is prevented from being a free human being.”


    Betty Friedan wrote, “women who ‘adjust’ as housewives, who grow up wanting to be ‘just a housewife,’ are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps… they are suffering a slow death of mind and spirit.”


    Linda Gordon said, “the nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.”


    Robin Morgan said “We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.”


    Mary Jo Bane said, “in order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them.”


    Vivian Gornick said, “being a housewife is an illegitimate profession… The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family maker is a choice that shouldn’t be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that.”

    Helen Sullinger said, “We must work to destroy [marriage]… The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men… All of history must be rewritten in terms of oppression of women.”

    You’d think women seeking high-powered careers would be glad to enjoy less competition from other potential workers…
    “Not if you understand the feminist ideology,” say Suzanne Venker and the late Phyllis Schlafly, authors of The Flipside of Feminism.

    Key Points!

    1. Feminists realize all too well that they can never achieve a level playing field in the marketplace as long as their male competitors have the advantage of homemaker wives…

    2. Women on the left know that in order to get ahead more easily, they must deprive men of their advantage in having stay-at-home wives.

    3. The desire to eliminate the full-time homemaker has been feminists’ goal all along.

    4. The need for a second income was never the goal.

    MGTOW…Real Men Going Their Own Way…SLAVEMENT BEGINS WITH “I-DO”>>>FEMINISM IS CANCER…

    Marriages & Girlfriends Are Detrimental To Your Financial, Physical & Mental Health…

    WAKE UP & Open Your Eyes Manginas>>>There Is A War On Men & The Safest Way Is To Go MGTOW…

    The Fight Against Feminism Is A Fight For Humanity…
    HURT FEMINISM BY DOING NOTHING:
    · Don’t Help Women’s.
    · Don’t Fix Things For Women’s.
    · Don’t Support Women’s Issues.
    · Don’t Come To Women Defense.
    · Don’t Speak For Women’s.
    · Don’t Value Women’s Feelings.
    · Don’t Portray Women As Victims.
    · Don’t Protect Women.
    · Avoid Feminism Where It Can Be Helped.
    · Don’t Work With Feminist.
    · Don’t Befriend Feminist.
    · Don’t Engage With Feminist Under Any Circumstances.
    · Don’t Give Them Money.
    · Don’t Donate Money That Support Feminist Causes.

    WITHOUT WHITE KNIGHTS FEMINISM WOULD END TODAY…

    THE FEMINIST LIE WAS NEVER ABOUT EQUALITY..

    (Damn this sounds like ****** Almost smells like Tacos…

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #842128

    a boy and his dog.

    cherry 2000 – stop the movie after he and the bot are flying away in the plane, skip the final scene.

    the martian – hate damon and female commander bs, but like the grit parts of the story and surviving by seat of your pants.

    sam kinisons 1st hbo special, around 1987 or so.

    louie anderson ‘big baby boomer’ – he has a great standup act.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #841851

    In reply to: Maze Runner movies

    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    I never watched these movies, they seemed too cheesy. I’m pretty picky.

    Here’s a list I posted before. There are many other greats too. *emphasis*

    Space/Aliens
    Interstellar*
    Oblivion
    Europa Report
    Mission to Mars
    Apollo 18
    Solaris* (both)*
    2001: A Space Odyssey*
    The Abyss
    Alien*
    Aliens
    Alien 3*
    Alien Resurrection
    Prometheus*
    Alien Covenant*
    A.I.*
    Sphere*
    The Thing
    Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
    Predators
    Star Trek: Into Darkness
    Pitch Black*
    Riddick
    Star Trek
    Contact*

    Sci-Fi
    Sunshine*
    Bladerunner*
    Bladerunner 2049*
    Ex Machina
    Zero Theorem* really weird/ fair warning
    Gattaca*
    Live Die Repeat*
    Chappie* sort of ghetto style, not for everyone
    Elysium
    Apollo 13
    Logan’s Run* classic
    Code 46
    12 Monkeys* Bruce Willis classic
    Time Crimes* in Spanish, time travel indie film
    Cloud Atlas* worth watching at least once, sort of gay though

    Heavily Artistic
    Watchmen* probably the only decent new age superhero movie besides Deadpool
    Nebraska
    Barton Fink* weird
    Enemy* slow paced
    Holy Motors* weird French movie
    The Future
    THX-1138
    A Clockwork Orange* Kubrick
    Under the Skin* only for really dark sci fi people


    Comedy

    The Life Aquatic**
    The Big Lebowski**
    Kelly’s Heroes
    Escape from LA
    Dark Star
    Charlie Wilson’s War*
    Moon*
    Cast Away
    Color Me Kubrick
    Being John Malkovich*
    Thank You for Smoking
    Alien Autopsy* this is a great film, seriously funny made by British people. Grab it at Movie Trading Co.
    The Men Who Stare at Goats* decent comedy war flick. George Clooney
    Forbidden Planet
    The Time Machine
    Barbarella


    Horror

    Delicatessen* french
    Moon Trap
    Ravenous* cannibalism in the sierra Nevadas 1800s
    It Follows
    10 Cloverfield Lane* John Goodman*
    Cloverfield
    What Lies Beneath* probably the only ghost movie worth a damn
    The Shining
    Silence of the Lambs
    Hannibal
    Red Dragon* best in series
    The Brood

    Asian
    Akira
    Enter the Dragon
    Hero* artsy type required, good images and color
    Ikiru
    Tokyo Drift
    Final Fantasy: Spirits Within


    Arguably Children’s Movies

    Time Bandits
    Lost in Space
    Super 8
    The Fall
    Lady in the Water

    Action
    Mission Impossible 1-5*
    Batman Begins*
    Minority Report*
    Snatch
    The Way of the Gun* Benicio del Toro
    Casino Royale*
    Quantum of Solace …worst Bond movie in decades
    Skyfall*
    Spectre
    The Right Stuff
    Water World*
    Inception* Leo Decaprio
    The Jackal
    Body of Lies* Leo Decaprio
    The Edge* Anthony Hopkins

    Drama
    Gomorrah
    Leviathan* (Russian) very slow movie, worth it though.
    Master and Commander**
    Lawrence of Arabia*
    The Lives of Others* German*
    The American Friend* classic
    Ripley’s Game*
    Talented Mr. Ripley
    Adam Resurrected* Holocaust movie of sorts. Jeff Goldbloom
    The Aviator
    Stalker (Russian)
    The Sunset Limited
    The Mirror (Russian)
    American Hustle* severely forgotten movie but still crisp every time, a winner (Christian Bale
    Bradley Cooper
    Jeremy Renner)

    Donnie Darko
    The Prestige* Christopher Nolan masterpiece
    Sanctum* great movie, watch it twice!
    In the Electric Mist* mystery in Louisiana Tommy Lee Jones
    Out of the Furnace
    Valhalla Rising* weird cult classic
    Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
    Shutter Island
    The Girl w/ Dragon Tattoo (starring Daniel Craig)
    Eyes Wide Shut* Sorry, its eternally great
    Barry Lyndon* Old Kurbick English Victorian era movie, great film
    Dr. Strangelove* ofcourse
    Birth
    Fightclub
    The Following

    War
    Saving Private Ryan
    Inglorious Bastards
    The Thin Red Line** best war flick ever
    Valkyrie* I don’t know why I watch this s~~~ out of this movie, like 20 times. I just like it. Its Tom Cruise
    The Big Red One
    Full Metal Jacket
    The Frontline* great Korean movie. watch it, wont regret

    Western
    The Assassination of Jessie James by the Coward R. Ford.*
    True Grit (both)
    There Will be Blood**
    The Proposition* Guy Pearce rides a horse, need I say more? Special appearance by John Hurt!
    Rover* Guy Pearce
    3:10 to Yuma (both)
    The Homesman* Tommy Lee Jones
    Django
    No Country for Old Men*

    and many more…..

    #839743
    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    She was never really yours it was only your turn. Once you realize that everything else makes sense and it will make it easier to get over her.

    Most of us are good men and take responsibility for our actions and sometimes when you think you failed (this is an illusion) it can be painful but when you fail you are actually becoming successful.

    When a woman decides to leave you the chains come off and you finally can become free and successful. I am sure you guys heard this before but the road to success is paved with failure. The reason we all feel like we failed is because we compromised our principles to elevate and put women on a pedestal at the expense of our well being. That is something very hard to overcome because we feel stupid and cheated for betraying our morals to maintain the illusion of success with a female who put us on a plantation to work us like a slave, and all for the reward of having a sexual relationship.

    This is what we are taught to do at a very young age the indoctrination of the blue pill is strong but once we can break this programming we become better men for it. It takes time but for those who say it will never go away only you can control that. Eventually with enough practice you will be able to forgive yourself and move on to that road of success because only you can do this for yourself. Let go of the anger and guilt that you feel for what she did to you and what you did to yourself and you will start to heal and feel better and be able to view it as a lesson in life instead of a failure.

    #838825

    In reply to: The Pope again

    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    The baphomet is a symbolic figure to me, I do not worship something that doesn’t exist.

    The baphomet to me, represent darkness, rebellious nature, lover of life, lustful, and above all, free will.

    Just because i don’t accept your God, doesn’t make me a low-life. No, I’m a free thinker, who does his will, who doesn’t believe in a greater authority.

    Like you I have free will you can do as you wish and I can do as I wish. It is easy to go around and living life with no consequences anyone can do that. Having restraint and a understanding of what God expects of you is not a prison but a blessing. No one said you are a low-life what I said was low quality meaning you behave in a manor suited to people who tend to be liars, selfish to the point where it hurts others as an example. For me a low life would be a criminal in every sense of the word. Not sure if you are lying or ignorant but I will prove my point as you continue to read.

    I don’t believe in your God, because of his murderous ways, not because of “false prophets”.

    Your God flooded the earth, killing millions upon millions of people, including innocent kids and animals. After that, the murderer regretted his actions.

    Above is false and I am not sure if you are trying to lie to fit your narrative or if you are ignorant.

    Genisis 6:5

    And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

    The only thing God regretted as you can see in the bolded text that he made man to begin with. He never regretted the flood or removing those who were wicked. You will not find any reference in the King James Version of the Bible that claims he regretted removing anyone. You call it murder you don’t understand how God views us at all. God created us and has the power to remove or correct his creations because he has the right to do so. If a robot goes berserk and does everything against its creators wishes does the maker of the robot become a murder because he decides to shut it off or remove it from existence? Everyone dies eventually does that mean God is a murderer for allowing for every human to eventually die?

    If god was such a murder why did he not just kill the entire human race and be done with it? Why are we here today talking if God was evil as you claim. Even after his creation rebelled against his wishes God chose to give us a second chance and we failed him again.

    There is a difference between murder and killing. If someone is about to be killed and defends himself by killing someone is he considered a murderer too? Is the hangman who puts a murderer to death for his crime guilty of murder too? If a man or a woman who is being raped in prison and is able to kill his attacker is he guilty of murder too? These are just some examples of those who are guilty may deserve a death sentence. People get away with these acts all the time and God sees everything he is the final judge and executioner of his creations. Here is a good example of why God kills instead of murders. Link.

    He killed 80,000 soldiers, because King David numbered the enemies forces. Yet, David lived. He wiped about 6 figures of innocent people because a King sinned.

    The figure was not 80k it has been debated and scholars can’t agree between the figure but rough estimate is between 50 to 70 thousand. No where in the bible will you find that God killed “innocent” people at least not in the King James version. Here let me do the work for you here is a link where you can educate yourself where the words killing and innocent can be found in the entire bible.

    God condemned an assortment of Israelite soldiers to death he didn’t kill all 800 thousand “valiant men that drew the sword” after the census was complete because not all of them were guilty and he knew exactly what he was doing.

    The son of Elijah, a prophet, was walking, and some kids made fun of his hair style, and he cursed them in the name of God. Your beloved God sent two she-bears, who devoured them, and ripped them to pieces.

    Elijah never had a son what you meant to say was his pupil Elisha. That story can be better explained here and here. You have to understand during the times in the Old Testament it was a grievous sin to mock God and people would be stoned to death for doing it and if not God would take care of them.

    God killed every first born son in Egypt, because pharaoh didn’t want to free the Israelites. Funny thing, HE, HARDEN the heart of pharaoh, to not let go of his people. He murdered innocent children just so he show off his power.

    Yeah lets skip the fact that the Pharaoh killed every Hebrew boy. All of them not just the first born where as god only killed Egypt’s first born not ALL. Ex. 1:22. God sent ten plagues (10 chances) for the Pharaoh to change his ways and free the slaves who were Gods people but instead the Pharaoh continued to mock God and his followers and let people around him die. How many chances did Pharaoh give to the Hebrew people before their son’s were put to death? Answer is none.

    There are many interpretations to the events but here are two different angles to look at.

    Exodus 12:23

    God did not kill the first born instead “the destroyer” did.

    This link is a good read and ties in well as to Gods motivation. Remember God was willing to give up is firstborn son Jesus to save us all God is not the only one that escaped this fate as he dies cruelly on the cross.

    But, I’m the low-life for not bowing down before such evil entity?

    Lucifer on the other hand, freed mankind from God’s slavery. I would rather worship Lucifer with all my heart, then to honor your God.

    Does not surprise me you brought up Lucifer in this argument. Luciferians are taught these talking points and it also doesn’t surprise me they are filled with lies and not truthful when you start to pick them apart. Add your avatar picture and name and you get a complete picture of what you truly believe in. But keep saying you are free thinking and don’t follow any religion (even though you have religious evil idol in your name and avatar). Yeah we will take your word for it but who am I to judge live your life anyway you want.

    No one is telling you to honor God or any other entity you can choose what you want to do with your life be an atheist or a Luciferian for all I care but when you call out God as evil it is my duty to defend him because he talks through all of his worshippers. Religious organizations have become corrupted with evil not God that is Satan’s plan and it is working judging by the way you are reacting to this.

    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    http://www.businessinsider.com/businesses-attack-uk-government-over-handling-of-brexit-2018-7

    Airbus. Siemens. BMW. Rolls-Royce. Jaguar Land Rover.

    What do they all have in common? All have publicly spoken out against the government’s handling of Brexit in recent weeks.

    All are also large-scale manufacturers, which is not incidental. Together they employ over 70,000 people in the UK. They have collectively warned that many of those jobs may be under threat.

    “It’s undeniable that there’s been a big shift in businesses coming out to talk about Brexit, to warn against the dangers of no deal or a hard Brexit

    With the March 2019 deadline for Britain to leave the EU fast approaching and little palpable progress made, businesses are going public with fears that we could be heading off an economic cliff.

    ——-Some more in the article. May and Co. have made a mess of an easy situation. Now companies want to know what is going on so plans can be made.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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    IMickey503
    iMickey503
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    The video is good sure.

    But This is what made me go whoa.. This GEM was hidden in the comment section. And it’s not like me to just leave something like this at ZERO F~~~ING LIKES after 4 months? Seems a little Odd.

    So let me share with you..

    Rey Dicuori
    4 months ago (On the day of July 6th 2018)

    MGTOW
    18 THINGS THAT FEMINISM HAS DESTROYED.

    1. Freedom of speech
    2. Marriage.
    3. The American legal system – Equal protection under the law.
    4. Chivalry.
    5. Your sex life.
    6. Good old fashioned manners.
    7. Nice guys.
    8. Love.
    9. Romance.
    10. Women
    11. THE FAMILY.
    12. Real human men.
    13. Campus ~courtship~.
    14. The ability to cook in one’s home.
    15. Masculinity and femininity.
    16. The middle class.
    17. The environment.
    18. And finally, civilisation itself.

    WHY FEMINISM WANTS TO DISMANTLE THE FAMILY (long)

    Like many isms before it (Communism, religions, cults), feminism seeks to dismantle the traditional family unit for its own gain. Why? To the ism, old loyalties are like bad habits interfering with an individual’s ability to pledge unwavering allegiance. Isms want control, but families tend to put family members and their needs before the demands of the ism, reducing the ism’s power and influence and therefore undermining its control.
    Throughout history, the family has been “the ultimate and only consistently subversive organization… the enduring permanent enemy of all hierarchies, churches and ideologies,” notes Ferdinand Mount, author of The Subversive Family.

    Mount describes the sequence past isms have followed once they “have hardened into orthodoxies:”

    First, hostility and propaganda to devalue family. The family is a source of trouble. It could distract apostles or potential apostles from following the new idea. The family is second-best, pedestrian, material, selfish.

    Alternative families are promoted — communes, party cadres, kibbutzes, monasteries.
    Feminist icons have not tried to hide their antipathy for the family unit:


    Gloria Steinem described marriage as “an arrangement for one and a half people.”


    Andrea Dworkin wrote, “How can anyone love someone who is less than a full person, unless love itself is domination per se?”


    Kate Millett wrote, “so long as every female, simply by virtue of her anatomy, is obliged, even forced, to be the sole or primary caretaker of childhood, she is prevented from being a free human being.”


    Betty Friedan wrote, “women who ‘adjust’ as housewives, who grow up wanting to be ‘just a housewife,’ are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps… they are suffering a slow death of mind and spirit.”


    Linda Gordon said, “the nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.”


    Robin Morgan said “We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.”


    Mary Jo Bane said, “in order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them.”


    Vivian Gornick said, “being a housewife is an illegitimate profession… The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family maker is a choice that shouldn’t be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that.”

    Helen Sullinger said, “We must work to destroy [marriage]… The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men… All of history must be rewritten in terms of oppression of women.”

    You’d think women seeking high-powered careers would be glad to enjoy less competition from other potential workers…
    “Not if you understand the feminist ideology,” say Suzanne Venker and the late Phyllis Schlafly, authors of The Flipside of Feminism.

    Key Points!

    1. Feminists realize all too well that they can never achieve a level playing field in the marketplace as long as their male competitors have the advantage of homemaker wives…

    2. Women on the left know that in order to get ahead more easily, they must deprive men of their advantage in having stay-at-home wives.

    3. The desire to eliminate the full-time homemaker has been feminists’ goal all along.

    4. The need for a second income was never the goal.

    MGTOW…Real Men Going Their Own Way…SLAVEMENT BEGINS WITH “I-DO”>>>FEMINISM IS CANCER…

    Marriages & Girlfriends Are Detrimental To Your Financial, Physical & Mental Health…

    WAKE UP & Open Your Eyes Manginas>>>There Is A War On Men & The Safest Way Is To Go MGTOW…

    The Fight Against Feminism Is A Fight For Humanity…
    HURT FEMINISM BY DOING NOTHING:
    · Don’t Help Women’s.
    · Don’t Fix Things For Women’s.
    · Don’t Support Women’s Issues.
    · Don’t Come To Women Defense.
    · Don’t Speak For Women’s.
    · Don’t Value Women’s Feelings.
    · Don’t Portray Women As Victims.
    · Don’t Protect Women.
    · Avoid Feminism Where It Can Be Helped.
    · Don’t Work With Feminist.
    · Don’t Befriend Feminist.
    · Don’t Engage With Feminist Under Any Circumstances.
    · Don’t Give Them Money.
    · Don’t Donate Money That Support Feminist Causes.

    WITHOUT WHITE KNIGHTS FEMINISM WOULD END TODAY…

    THE FEMINIST LIE WAS NEVER ABOUT EQUALITY..

    (Damn this sounds like ****** Almost smells like Tacos…

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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