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Secret Agent,
That’s exactly why I tell my father and other older cucks that even if I wanted, I could not find a suitable woman.
Nothing wrong to be unmarried. The Apostle Paul illustrates that a lot.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
Paul was coming at it from a different angle. Not that there were not suitable women. Just if you could handle the sex urges, to not be with them. He admitted most guys could not handle it.
But even if you are one that likes women, you should not be involved with them if they fail the biblical criteria. Nothing good is gonna come from it.
And we are seeing this and living it and picking up the pieces of it, and distancing ourselves from all of it. And we are right to do so.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
For their emotional comfort.
LOL
@SecretAgentMGTOW
I see where you’re coming from, he also mentions things like a wife taking your mind off heavenly things bc you have to care about her. If she doesn’t see things how you do, you’re screwed so yeah we’re screwed and MGTOW is here to help save the day.
I won’t hijack the thread, might have done a little much of it. I’ll pm you.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
Religion is a dividing factor if followed blindly. Granted I am a Christian, I am responsible for my soul and not anybody elses.
It would be irresponsible of me to try and convert someone else when all I have is my faith and the other person also has theirs. Ultimately, we go our own way depending on what we believe in.
Religious debates will never be resolved because it based on faith. Unless facts can be procured from God or whoever your deity is, it will always be a no win scenario. Better focus on ones soul than worrying about the countless multitude when we too only have glimpses of the truth.
The allegory of the cave is something that reminds me when we have to understand something outside our perspective…
I found the story…
The allegory begins with Plato’s Socrates describing a group of humans held in a deep, dark cave. They have been imprisoned there since childhood, their necks and legs bound so they cannot turn to see themselves, each other, or the rest of the cave.
All they can do is stare ahead at the cave wall in front of them. Behind them, unseen, is a walkway with a low barrier on it, and behind that is a large, bright fire. A group of puppeteers moves along the walkway, with puppets raised above their heads. While the puppeteers’ own shadows are obscured by the barrier, the light of the fire casts the silhouettes of their puppets onto the far cave wall so that the prisoners see the shadow-shapes of humans, animals, and various objects flickering before them.
When the puppeteers’ voices echo around the cave, they appear to the prisoners to be coming from these shadow creatures, not from the unseen humans speaking behind them. Having presented this strange scenario, Socrates suggests that, for the prisoners, the shadow display, which is all they can see, would be “reality.” They would not know that what they are seeing is an impression of an impression of a real thing—the shadow cast by a puppet that is inspired by a horse or the silhouette of mannequin in the shape of a human.
As far as they are aware, the shadows are themselves the real object, the real horse, or the real human.
Socrates then adds to the scenario, proposing that one of the prisoners is released and may now look around and move freely about the cave. Suddenly, he would be able to look at the fire that had been behind him his whole life. The light of it would hurt his eyes as they are accustomed only to the shadows and, squinting, he would not be able to perceive the puppets clearly.
If he was told at this point that the puppets—which for him are blurred and obscured in his painful vision—are reality, he would not believe it, and he would retreat back to what is familiar and comfortable: the shadows that do not strain his eyes and so appear clearest and most real to him.
Socrates takes this further, suggesting that, if someone were to forcibly drag the released prisoner from the cave and out into the sunlight, this reaction would be worse, at least for a short time. Facing the light of the sun for the first time in his life, the man would be temporarily blinded, and he would react to his pain and confusion with anger.
However, as his eyes grew used to the light, he would slowly be able to see more clearly. At first, he would only be able to look at shadows but after a while he could look at the reflections people, animals, and objects cast in water and, after that, he could look upon the people, animals, and objects themselves.
Eventually, he could look at the moon and the stars in the night sky and, last of all, at the sun in the daytime. Only once he can look at the sun itself, Socrates reasons, can the escaped prisoner begin to truly consider it.
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
because life is all about being Socratic–being able to thrive outside of our comfort zones.
So true.
Being MGTOW and enduring 18 years on the job of gynocentric blue pill hell makes me glad to bring my acquired knowledge here and pour it out.
I have collected so many red pill capsules that you trip and fall down the stairway when I pour them all out “bucket style” in front of you.
One more hypocrisy about “religion”:
God and Allah, both want you to thrive and do good in your life.
But the church asks you to marry which will lead to the opposite…
The churches, if they were for real, they would terminate their “marriage service” at once until laws are brought in line with justice.
But the churches keep on feeding that man-hating system.
I believe in God/or Allah/or any higher force but not in the church.
Religion is only valid if it embraces justice and feeds on the truth.
BTW. Why does the church “censor” the red pills in the bible in their daily preachings?
Yes, that would expose them to the trouble MGTOW gets. Preaching the Bible “All the way = truthful” would not be advertiser-friendly.
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I have a very unipue way of how i view god and jesus .
I beleave everybody should have there own interpretation of the bible in an individual way and not in a mass way like a church .
MAYBE THIS COULD BECOME UNIQUE TO MGTOW .
Maybe we could throw some ideas at nagowood and create a TEMPLE .
There is some good lessons in the bible .
Maybe he could have a guest bro in the temple from other faiths muslim buhhdist catholic we could have sir speak on that one .
No rules or s~~~ we treat it like mgtow sunday school and see if WE can all promote it .
TEMPLE 1 THEN TITLE
TEMPLE 2 AND SO ON AND TITLE .See if we could grow something unique .
IDEAS THOUGHTS ANYONE
Work together and make something a first .
Wheres that sunstorm i liked his story of all his woman tusken nieghbors that p~~~ed him off over his music . I found that intresting .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Gargamel,
Good point, a huge problem is that churches are skirting over parts of the Bible that call for wives to submit to their husbands and them being called the weaker vessel.
All because it’s bad for donations. Not holding women to their roles and giving in the gynocentrism has turned the entire world upside down.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
Hey it will give km a break .
Hey nagowood . From now on ya superstar .
So the temple speakers can speak maybe a couple of pitbull gaurds to deal the riff raff . Lol .
Humorious but a good idea .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Gargamel,
Good point, a huge problem is that churches are skirting over parts of the Bible that call for wives to submit to their husbands and them being called the weaker vessel.
All because it’s bad for donations. Not holding women to their roles and giving in the gynocentrism has turned the entire world upside down.
Right, we men must unite on the level of questioning the “truths” we were sold by the “representatives” of our respective religion.
Seeing the whole picture will set you free and peace will come to you.
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For me, MGTOW should transcend religion. MGTOW is not an inherently religious thing, i.e. the focus of MGTOW is not religion, but rather the focus of MGTOW is female behaviour and the various female-pandering societal systems.
Having said this, I think that it can help (some, if not the vast majority of) people, if they believe in a superior being/force and/or some higher set of beliefs/morals; this can help give them direction/focus in their lives. The Bible gives us both of these things, in one document/source.
I am English and I was brought-up to be a Christian; I am Church Of England. However, I can accept/understand people of other religions and of other ways of thinking, even if I do not share their beliefs/views myself; not everybody will have the same way of thinking and will be of the same religion, and some people will not be religious at all (i.e. atheist).
For me, MGTOW should transcend religion. MGTOW is not an inherently religious thing, i.e. the focus of MGTOW is not religion, but rather the focus of MGTOW is female behaviour and the various female-pandering societal systems.
Having said this, I think that it can help (some, if not the vast majority of) people, if they believe in a superior being/force and/or some higher set of beliefs/morals; this can help give them direction/focus in their lives. The Bible gives us both of these things, in one document/source.
I am English and I was brought-up to be a Christian; I am Church Of England. However, I can accept/understand people of other religions and of other ways of thinking, even if I do not share their beliefs/views myself; not everybody will have the same way of thinking and will be of the same religion, and some people will not be religious at all (i.e. atheist).
You are one solid Englishman. I salute you, brother.
History all the way into today religion is not tolerance. Expect difference here would be folly, ESPECIALLY once you add in some red pill rage.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
The bible tells guys to avoid certain kinds of women. If men took this advice every one of them would be MGTOW in America and Europe.
The bible supports MGTOW given the types of women that exist in modern society today. If men just understood it and deprogrammed themselves from societal gynocentric brainwashing and spent time themselves reading for themselves they would see this.
Great post!
But the churches still want us to marry and procreate.
First they caused the problem by stopping to preach “All of the bible” (no longer asking women to be good) and then they put shame on us men when we walk away from them and the “tainted Religion” they sell.
If the church(es) were for real, they would see our point and act on it.
Till then, we walk away.
All men from all churches and all faiths must walk away and come here to unite.
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For me, MGTOW should transcend religion. MGTOW is not an inherently religious thing, i.e. the focus of MGTOW is not religion, but rather the focus of MGTOW is female behaviour and the various female-pandering societal systems.
The church has become a “female pandering system” and that’s why I think of MGTOW as a refuge for men of all faiths.
We are the “men-shelter” never built before.
Whey have men-shelters never been built?
The gynocracy didn’t want men to unite “under one roof”, compare stories and help each other (emotionally and financially) against the system that panders so well to the women.
We MGTOW are NOW home to every man, no matter where he comes from.
Stirring up s~~~ is an attempt to destroy us.
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Rare genetic mutation found in Amish community could combat ageing
Amish Mutation Protects Against Diabetes and May Extend Life
——–God’s blessed people? would seem to be,..
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Yes, it is particularly bad in the liberal denominations and their records are no better to worse than the secularists.
Conservative denominations fare better because while they still do the “women are awesome, men are awful” to a lesser extent, they are strong on sinners and that we are all one of them, and there is accounting for what we do, and how we treat others and want to be treated.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Rare genetic mutation found in Amish community could combat ageing
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Amish Mutation Protects Against Diabetes and May Extend Life
——–God’s blessed people? would seem to be,..
They live “off the grid” and don’t contaminate their bodies with useless and toxic s~~~.
And what we see as “mutation” might actually be “evolution” we normal people don’t get anymore because our bodies are full of accumulated dioxins.
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Also if the churches were real on the subject they would be talking about the great iniquity in our laws with respect to men and women today in “family court”.
Also how 70% of divorces initiaited by women. Walking away from their vows to another guy. Taking half the stuff from the guy they are leaving. Taking the man’s children away.
And how unbiblical that is.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
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