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Why talking about religion on MGTOW is just a tire fire.
Endless threads on religion and “back and forth” arguments between opponents only scratch the surface.
All religions and the churches that represent them are interwoven with the political systems of countries.
And the political leaders “follow the money” and get their donations / bribe money from big industry conglomerates.So – all churches will logically follow the big agenda. Most “major” churches are funded by the state and lose that funding in case of disobedience.
No church will ever tell you about truths and wake you up to the flaws of our system.
The church will let you down and “sell you down the river” not to offend it’s “money sources”.
Best example: No church will ever tell you about cancer clusters around phone masts because they make a s~~~load of money from having them installed in their elevated church towers.
Time for a “new wave” Martin Luther to point out and publish their hypocrisy.
That is where we come in:
When we (finally) start to talk about the real causes of misery on this planet then the secret services will put a death order on each and every one of us…
Ever wondered why they consider us “hate speech” for just warning other men of the dangers “the system” brings?
We are striking a bundle of nerves here.
But once we go deeper, then we break the spine of the system.
MGTOW (and all “accompanying” mindsets) is the only thing that can take down this system. And that’s what they are all afraid of.
They are afraid of churches losing followers, the marriage and divorce industry going to s~~~ and that millions are no longer to be made in the “domestic violence” sector…
They are afraid of banks collapsing because no man goes deeply in debt anymore (to please his nagging and demanding c~~~)
They are afraid of losing useless industries with overpriced products: Jewelry, cosmetics, mansions built from cardboard, fashion clothing…
These are exactly the high revenue industries that pay for the huge estates and car collections of the leaders and the donations (aka bribes) to the political leaders.
Without our slave labor money, they are going to have to work.
The problem we have with „women” is just a side-arm of all problems. It was “big-agenda TV” that f~~~ed them up most.
Now they are losing “TV”… Because men walk away and advertising revenues drop.
To the industrial elites, we are cancer because we wake people up.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I see these forums as a nexus where a lot of men that would have really nothing in common, can meet on very specific issues. I’ve seen some religious content on here as well as some Uber Americana members based on some of the subjects they have mentioned. I don’t believe in Nationalism or Religion particularly.
Being an individual is more important than anything else. I don’t engage in group think or hero worship. I see some of that stuff here with Tesla for example. Not my thing.
Cult of personalities should always be avoided in my opinion.
I mostly see people stating their opinions from a wrong perspective, most threads and comments are always about what is the real truth and all that, nobody says “hey it’s just my opinion and i respect yours too.”
then the fight continiues and we go nowhere.Politics and religion are dangerous subjects.
When I have a pen in my hands, it's lethal.
Dearly beloved, I think you are wrong.
Despite my flaws and personal failings, I am a die hard Christian. I don’t subscribe to a church because of many of the good points you mentioned and there are too many conflicting denominations.
However, my personal relationship with God has saved my life and has kept me away from misbehavior that would ruin my life.
My faith has allowed for me to keep pressing on when I was younger thinking I was going to be a poor kid from the hood with no family forever. Now I have a degree from a great college and the ability to earn good money, take care of my father by God’s blessings in my life.
I’m not here to evangelize, I have Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist and yes Athiest friends. When I can learn from someone, I do so. If a dog could speak wisdom, I’ll listen to him too.
We live in a world [most of us] where people are free to believe as they wish and everyone’s rights must be respected. Sadly, that is not the case and people on both sides of the spectrum need to dig within themselves to understand that.
Maybe a moratorium on the subjects will suffice until cooler heads prevail and people learn to be civil and harmonious with each other like we do every day in our lives.
I’ve personally hated teaching evolution and sitting through mandatory LGBTQ trainings in my career but I’ve had to suck it up,because life is all about being Socratic–being able to thrive outside of our comfort zones.
You are a respected member of this community and I enjoy your commentary.
It’s hard to disagree with you, even respectfully my brother.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
Anonymous6IDK, but if you ever want to have a long thread to resume, religion will definitely do it. I’ve only done it once.
To piggy back off of what Chase Pesos said, God is awesome man. To anybody here, you have to believe in something. I don’t care what it is, believe in something. And you can’t go wrong with God. He’s been kicking ass for a long time. There’s just a certain peace that you get from Christianity. I don’t know where I would be without God in my life. Some things happen in life and you can’t explain it any other way than to say it was a divine presence.
The good thing about freedom of speach it allows people to bury them selves .
I have alot of reasons i could blame god and his son .
But i don’t , i love them for the lessons i am been taught .
Life is school and class is in session .
If religous threads upset anyone stay of them or learn to “IGNORE” .
I noticed bros on here enjoying the recent religous threads .
We got petes orchestra .
We even have a president . Shhhh trump .
Jesus was a mgtow .
THE PREACHER MAN .
Let him have his church .
Lets just give him a go . Bros like it and he seems to know his god s~~~ .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Faith is the substance of things that are hoped for, the evidence of things that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
Lol . God will beat ya brainless .
It is actually an intresting clip on a really smart athiest .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
However, my personal relationship with God has saved my life and has kept me away from misbehavior that would ruin my life.
My faith has allowed for me to keep pressing on when I was younger thinking I was going to be a poor kid from the hood with no family forever. Now I have a degree from a great college and the ability to earn good money, take care of my father by God’s blessings in my life.
It’s your faith that counts. Not the “church” (Label) you follow.
We all needed some kind of faith to make it this far.
You can have faith in God or Allah and not be a church go-er.
But some people excuse their dark personal s~~~tiness and intolerance with “religion”.
What I am trying to say that:
God and Allah + the original religions are real. But the “real life” churches – run on the industry’s money – are a filtered and biased system that needs questioning.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Gargamel,
I told you I’m not a church goer so I’m feeling your flow.
Part of what Christians and folks of others faiths are called to do is to spread the message.
As for the intolerance, they have to work on not letting that leak out in a judgemental way and I’m working on that too.
Maybe the message will do well to hurting brothers on this site and that cannot be hid.
I haven’t seen a hustling pastor or proselyte on here yet but I’m sure KM would be in on that.
I’ve learned so much from the words of Buddha as well. Life is truly suffering, we all suffer in our own ways and if we accept that and deal with what we are able to, we can make things a little better.
MGTOW has helped me tremendously with this as well and some brothers will or will not blend faith into the equation.
I apologize if my words offend any church goers, not my cup of tea.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
You are spot on, Gargamel.
I also agree with Chase, as I am very similar in how I approach things.
Jesus was a mgtow .
He definitely was.
And latest research comes to the conclusion that he did not “evaporate” but survived his crossing. It started raining, everybody went home and someone took him down from the cross and cared for him until he recovered. And he later went (was trafficked) to India to evade persecution.
At least this is a “believable version” which does not “take down” the truths in the rest of the Bible.
As we are NOW deeply knowledgeable on the laws of physics, a man cannot be swallowed by the sky and “come to god”… (Only a twister can do something like it, but then the history books would say so and the temples would not be here today.)
He asked his followers to spread that story to get the Romans off his back.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Garg,
A professor of mine and advisor,rest her soul bc she died a few years back made an interesting point.
The Bible doesn’t cover Jesus’ life from 12 to 30, maybe he met Buddha during that time because the Beaditudes of Christ and Eightfold Path are very similar.
I keep them both in mind regularly.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
I’ve learned so much from the words of Buddha as well. Life is truly suffering, we all suffer in our own ways and if we accept that and deal with what we are able to, we can make things a little better.
MGTOW has helped me tremendously with this as well and some brothers will or will not blend faith into the equation.
You can learn from every man of every faith no matter where he is coming from.
Putting on a blindfold on other opinions and angles of view limits your learning.
Whatever truth is being spoken does not become “bad truth” simply because someone of a different race or religion said it.
I tolerate all belief systems and religions.
But most religions require you to limit your thoughts to “that one and only” faith system and that’s why I don’t brag about following any “brand name” religion.
All of them have good and bad in them.
Living in a “system of truth” is my own religion.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I respect that, all in all, you are going your OWN way. That’s why we’re here.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
I’m surprised we haven’t seen a picture of a cat on this thread yet.
Not quite a tire fire, right?
Hopefully it doesn’t turn into one by the time I get up for work.
We’re always going to have differences but should focus on what we have in common like true gentlemen.
Good night bros.
Chase a check, never chase a chick...
Secular society brainwashes guys into beta cucks and manginas, by other manginas and feminists pushing their worldview – and it’s not a biblical one.
The bible tells guys to avoid certain kinds of women. If men took this advice every one of them would be MGTOW in America and Europe.
The bible supports MGTOW given the types of women that exist in modern society today. If men just understood it and deprogrammed themselves from societal gynocentric brainwashing and spent time themselves reading for themselves they would see this.
Here is what the bible says are the kinds of women to avoid.
1. The unbeliever (hypergamy better restrained by strong personal faith)
2. The abuser
3. The controller
4. The manipulator
5. The angry
6. The contentious/fighter/standoffish
7. The deceiver
8. The liar
9. The addict
10. The narcissist/diva
11. The seducer
12. The gold digger
13. The big spender
14. The girl still tied to strongly to her parentsLook at the women in todays American society and tell me how many you know would not hit one or more categories on this list? Almost every woman in America today would fall into one or more of these above categories and therefore BE A WOMAN TO AVOID.
Almost all modern women in America, going by biblical standards, are to be avoided by men as relationship material.
The bible is supportive of MGTOW given the current sad state of women in modern countries.
It is evidence FOR US being right to avoid women, not shirking our duties and knuckling under some beta feminist cuck’s warped worldview that we hate women and are uncaring and whatever.
The bible supports MGTOW. Show me a woman out there that can pass the bible’s criteria for being a good woman to have a lifelong relationship with.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
I’m not here to evangelize, I have Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist and yes Athiest friends. When I can learn from someone, I do so. If a dog could speak wisdom, I’ll listen to him too.
Right!
And MGTOW should be a place of tolerance toward EVERY religion.
What I am trying to say is:
We shouldn’t fight over religious differences because THIS TIME WE HAVE A COMMON ENEMY!
We men must unite.
Our enemy is “the system” – The GYNOCRATIC SYSTEM, fueled by “big money” and large industry conglomerates. (No need to say names)
Why do they say MGTOW videos are not “advertiser friendly”…
Hell, that is a dead giveaway!
Why do they say that instead of putting up stereo system and motorcycle ads?
We break the system when we grow and continue on our path.
Dividing us by starting fights over religion is one smart attempt by “the other side” that does not pass an Electronics-technician’s brain.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I’m surprised we haven’t seen a picture of a cat on this thread yet.
I post cats in the presence of trolls and tunas.
For their emotional comfort.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
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