Why feminism is good for men ! Part One

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Wally wrote:

DaveV wrote:

Wally wrote:

Your writings indicate you don’t fully comprehend MGTOW, you are discussing ways a marriage should be done equally, when in simplest terms it shouldn’t be done at all. Your overthinking it.

I appreciate your clarification Wally, but I disagree. Perhaps the title put up a red flag to the bull, and the subtly was lost. My final point says that in an equal world, marriage is completely unnecessary. My intention was to counter the feminist arguments that I have to contend with, which all revolve around equality of the sexes.

But wrt to what MGTOW is about, the website states :

M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.
My conclusion that I hoped people would derive would have been that all the social preconceptions around equality of sexes is silly, because you would have to take the good with the bad, and that is something women don’t want, and would actually help men.

Fair enough and I do apologize for miss understanding your point.

No need to apologize Wally, you didn’t offend me. I think Old Sage, Hitman and Gargamel made the clarification, avoid too long indirect articles and controversial titles. Read more, post less, until I get a feel for things.

D. G. I. Don't. Get. Involved. (Be happy, and stress not)

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Gnostic wrote:

What you type is MRA stuff going back to the plantation with 50/50 with women.

And f~~~ your official definition of feminism. I judge by feminism actions instead of what they claim.

Right, Gnostic

we are through with “stupiditism”. And we see what they do every day in our lives. The OP was trying to be hypothetical about what feminism is and what it SHOULD mean.

That’s why I think it is worth posting. It serves well in debunking it’s hypocrisy.

And of course if things WOULD really work like OP stated, then there would be no such thing as “the plantation”. We would have a society in which men and women could get along “just fine” – as it is “supposed to be” in order to reproduce and raise children.

If that what the OP stated was actually carried out, meaning that every party inside the family gets a share of exactly 50 percent, then this would mean that everyone would keep his 100 percent. Because if 2 people put whatever they have and stack it, then there will be 200 %. That means every party would keep his 100 % which is the same as the 50 % from the “total” family income.

The sick part is when the man brings 100 % and the woman adds 0 %. Which results in him being left with “only 50 %”. But in reality women, even it they bring 100% to the table then they spend 200 %, which is ZERO for him.

That’s why we then call it the plantation.

It’s female nature that makes this equality impossible. Even if feminism would or could work in reality, female nature will always turn it into a plantation / slavery for the other party.

We Germans had that before: Communism, well thought out by Karl Marx but it didn’t work that way because of human nature.

We always called it “the real existing communism / socialism”

And we now have “the real existing feminism”…

Like brother iLiveAgain once wrote “You can’t unc~~~ an c~~~”.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Akhilleus wrote:

To be fair Dave we been infiltrated a lot I’m still new to the site and even I was gonna jump in on ya the body of the post was misleading and I understand how you might have angered the Jan.

No worries Akhileus.

It wasn’t my intention to upset Jan or anyone else. It evoked a stronger reaction than I expected.

Anyhow, point taken for future reference.

D. G. I. Don't. Get. Involved. (Be happy, and stress not)

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Feminism has some unintended positive side effects, such as revealing the true nature of women, as was pointed out. But considering the number of fathers that have been ripped from their children and raped in divorce court, the men who have been unjustly imprisoned or had their lives ruined from false rape accusations, and the vast increase of suicide rates in men (especially divorced men), I say feminism is pure evil. The harm it has done is irreparable.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 54]

DaveV wrote:

Akhilleus wrote:

To be fair Dave we been infiltrated a lot I’m still new to the site and even I was gonna jump in on ya the body of the post was misleading and I understand how you might have angered the Jan.

No worries Akhileus.

It wasn’t my intention to upset Jan or anyone else. It evoked a stronger reaction than I expected.

Anyhow, point taken for future reference.

I like this guy!!!

[bladeParticipant]

Yer he’s cool . Just forget it op and continue . Ya a good bro and had the b~~~~ to apologize . We are all capable of making mistakes . Hey look on the bright side at least we all know now that you have a dick and not a c~~~ / tuna . Lol

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

Going to hit all your like stars and pump ya number up

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 54]

blade wrote:

Yer he’s cool . Just forget it op and continue . Ya a good bro and had the b~~~~ to apologize . We are all capable of making mistakes . Hey look on the bright side at least we all know now that you have a dick and not a c~~~ / tuna . Lol

No women would ever say, oh my mistake, Ill re-ajust this for the next time. Most of these things are just miscommunications. Men correct the misunderstanding, find mutual respect and move on.We are lucky to be Men!!!

[bladeParticipant]

Yep f~~~ing old school ah sage . No but hurt pussies here over a few misunderstood words

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Anonymous wrote:

blade wrote:

Yer he’s cool . Just forget it op and continue . Ya a good bro and had the b~~~~ to apologize . We are all capable of making mistakes . Hey look on the bright side at least we all know now that you have a dick and not a c~~~ / tuna . Lol

No women would ever say, oh my mistake, Ill re-ajust this for the next time. Most of these things are just miscommunications. Men correct the misunderstanding, find mutual respect and move on.We are lucky to be Men!!!

So true, it’s gotta be a hallmark of masculinity. Women have a hard time owning up to their mistakes, if at all. That’s why they use a rationalisation hamster instead of backtracking and repairing.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

I only skimmed though the topic. I just cannot read the whole thing thoroughly, but I do get the idea.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Yeah op don’t worry about it. Your topic ended up with three pages of replies. And in the end a good discussion. So all in all a good topic.

And I got your point when I read the first post. Equality sounds good and fair on the surface, but the honest truth is that women don’t want equality. You pointed out what true equality would look like. And it doesn’t look like something that women really want.

Amazingly enough, women lied and continue to lie about equality. I know, shocking right?

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 54]

coolthingy450 wrote:

I only skimmed though the topic. I just cannot read the whole thing thoroughly, but I do get the idea.

It was a tounge and cheek thing, with the “punch line” near the end. Being from the North East US, I get sarcasm, and could see where he was going with it. If you know someone for a while, youll recgonize that.
Type is a funny thing.The difference between live Theatre and the big screen. Things play differently in different mediums.

[bladeParticipant]

THERE WERE NO PUSSY FEALINGS HURT IN THE MAKING OF THIS THREAD . LOL

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 54]

I cant wait for Part Two!!!

Now theres your f~~~ing srcasm!! Hahaha

Peace my Brothers!

[HitmanParticipant]

You guys are all f~~~ing awesome!
Damn I wish I could say something really cool right now, but I’m not the Key master. …
hahaha! !!
: )
I’m glad this ended well.
Dave, we get a bit protective of the guys who have been here a long time like Jan..
Don’t take it too hard bro..you are extremely welcome here.
Peace.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

I like this guy!!!

I do too.

Welcome @davev

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Back to the point, I am totally in favor of perfect equality. You eat what you kill and I eat what I kill. If you’d like to engage in mutually beneficial trade, we’ll trade. Otherwise, anything either of us gives is given freely without expectation of future recompense.

Under thrse rules. It doesn’t matter what gender a person is… they either contribute value to society or they don’t and that’s the only thing that matters.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Stargazer wrote:

Back to the point, I am totally in favor of perfect equality. You eat what you kill and I eat what I kill. If you’d like to engage in mutually beneficial trade, we’ll trade. Otherwise, anything either of us gives is given freely without expectation of future recompense.

But that is not equality, it is fairness.

People are not equal by nature, and they never will be. Trying to impose equality is unfair and unnatural.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Then along comes mgtow and it’s all so very clear….

Feminism is now imploding…what does that say about their “movement.”

Mgtow is NOT a movement but individual life philosophies of thousands of men…all sharing ideas. Men taking back their freedom and untangling the web of lies and social programming.

Amen to that !

Excellent post McB.

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