Why feminism is good for men ! Part One

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Now you may not actually believe it, but feminism is actually good for men in that it can free men from the shackles that society has put on him, especially in the west. Don’t believe me, read further, and see if you agree with my logic.

Before I go further, I would add for all those women reading this, I am indifferent to women and don’t really care about feminism. I don’t hate feminism, in fact I think, if anything, it reduces the world’s population, saves men from getting married, and removes the shackles of social conventions, whilst saving the planet. That is a great thing.

All I would say is that men and women should challenge the conventional norms that they have been brainwashed with. Always take the red pill and ask ‘Why ?’.

Let me start with the official definition of feminism :
‘the advocacy (i.e. public support) of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes’.

Feminism deems both men and women equal in all things in terms of rights, social conventions, and access to those things that society presents to men e.g access to education, voting, taking public office, all job roles etc

Anyone not agreeing with that, is labelled as a male chauvinistic pig. Let me give you the definition of chauvinism.

‘ displaying excessive or prejudiced support for their own cause, group, or sex’

Now if the sexes are equal, i.e. equality of the sexes, social conventions and beliefs need to changed. These are some of them:

•The man should not buy any special ring, engagement, wedding or otherwise. Both parties should buy simple rings, and share the cost 50/50. (NB The ring is symbol of a marriage vow and commitment. It is not a piece of jewellery. It can be made out of any durable material, telfon, rubber, steel, copper etc. )
•For any meals or dates, the costs should be shared 50/50. Under no circumstances should the man be obliged to pay, to do so would demonstrate inequality in the sexes, we want to support the woman’s right to pay her way on the grounds that she is equal.
•On prom nights, the guy should not give any gift to the girl, nor should he pick her up. Both he and her should make their own way to the event, or if they share a taxi, both should share the costs 50/50.
•Under no circumstance should a man open the door for a woman, allow her to go ahead of him in a queue, nor show any special consideration if she is carrying anything. To do so, would show inequality in the sexes and be disrespectful to the woman’s rights for equality.
•Men should not show any special consideration in terms of behaviour if a woman or women are in the room , this includes feeling free to fart, burp (belch for our US cousins), swear, talk about sports etc . To show any consideration, would be show inequality in the sexes and therefore be disrespectful to the woman’s rights for equality.
•For marriages, men should pay for their items (suits, their shoes, etc), and women should be pay for their own items (dress, flowers etc). Any items that are shared by both parties should be split 50/50 e.g. food, cake, drinks – provided the number of guests from both sides are equal. Otherwise the costs should be amended accordingly based on the ratio of guests from bride/bridegroom. To not do so, would show inequality in the sexes and be disrespectful to the woman’s rights for equality.
•In terms of mortgage or rent, it’s obvious, that cost should be 50/50. Both names should be on the deeds, so that if there is a breakup, each gets half of the asset/liability. Nothing more, nothing less.
•All household bills should be split 50/50. That includes cable, phones, insurance etc. If someone is in the sole name of one person, that person will be responsible for 100% of the costs. To not do so, would show inequality in the sexes and be disrespectful to the woman’s rights for equality.
•In terms of children, if there is a divorce, the custody should be 50/50 unless both parties, outside the courts, agree otherwise. To not do so, would show inequality in the sexes and be disrespectful to the woman’s rights for equality. If a woman claims more time, then that is not equality but chauvinism on her part.
•In terms of cooking, cleaning etc, that is 50/50 unless the parties agree otherwise.
•Valentine’s day, mother’s day, father’s day would all need to be abolished. In terms of equality of the sexes, they are irrelevant. If necessary, they should be replaced by a single day, ‘appreciation of equality of the sexes day’. Any event planned, cost/expense occurred should be split 50/50 by the man & woman. However imo, even that is not necessary, as you should demonstrate equality every day.
•Marriage anniversaries are totally unnecessary as it’s just celebrating an arbitrary period of time based on the rotational cycle of the earth around the sun. It is just a societal/cultural convention which has been commercialized to exploit women in our equality society (because the costs are not normally split 50/50). It would also put undue pressure on women to take time out from their jobs to go shopping for gifts for their husband. My suggestion is rather than celebrating an anniversary using the Earth solar orbit of 365 days, they should use another, e.g. the Uranus solar orbit of …84 years. This should save women and men, from exploitation and marital discord, plus it allows plenty of time for planning.
•In our equal society, marriage itself is completely unnecessary. During the Elizabethan era of history in the UK, women were very much ‘second class citizens’, regardless of their social standing, they were expected (i.e. forced) to marry. Marriages were frequently arranged so that both families involved would benefit. Marriages would be arranged to bring prestige or wealth to the family (not the woman). The children of landowners would be expected to marry to increase the size of the acreage. Women, when married, became part of the property and estate of the man. They were treated as property. Marriage is an outdated, and degrading process, treating women as goods. Marriage therefore should abolished completely in our equal society. To not do so, would show inequality in the sexes and be disrespectful to the woman’s rights for equality.
•In terms of children, in an equal society, both the man and woman should share the costs of bringing it up 50/50. In the event of divorce, custody should be 50/50. If a woman becomes pregnant unintentionally, and then she decides to keep the baby (or not), then that is her right, the man has no say to override that, and in our equal society, it is her right & responsibility to bear 100% of the costs of bringing up that child (as it was her decision).
•If a man/woman get divorced, in our equal society, everything is split 50/50, excluding what they had before the marriage and what they accumulate after the marriage. No claim can be made by either party on the assets they did not buy together during the marriage alone. Since they paid 50/50 for everything during the marriage, it is completely fair that they each gets 50% of what was accumulated in the marriage years (only).
•Any allowances for maternity leave etc should given to both men and women in equal measure i.e. they should get the same time off. This would have no impact on companies whether a man or woman is doing that job, since both are paid the same. To not do so, would show inequality in the sexes.
•In terms of crime, the sentences for men or women, should be the same, and that applies to robbery, fraud, rape and murder. To not do so, would show inequality in the sexes.

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[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Bye.

This one is mine. I this the genie button.

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[BoarParticipant]

ciao.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Bye.

Did you actually read it, or make an assumption based on the title ?

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[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I don’t have to read “mein kampf” to know Nazis are bad.

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[DaveVParticipant 450]

Boar wrote:

ciao.

Piacere di conoscerti

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[DaveVParticipant 450]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I don’t have to read “mine kampf” to know Nazis are bad.

The site owner will decide your fate.

Jan, it’s a tongue in cheek article. If you judge something without actually reading it, and using your own brain and reason, then we are no better than the sheep following the mainstream media. That applies to everything. However, perhaps this is too subtle for your understanding.

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[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Too subtle for an autistic to get? F~~~ you C~~~.

Just like a entitled c~~~ to s~~~ on my disability.

Keymaster, I respectfully request that you punt this f~~~ing C~~~.

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[WallyParticipant]

Your writings indicate you don’t fully comprehend MGTOW, you are discussing ways a marriage should be done equally, when in simplest terms it shouldn’t be done at all. Your overthinking it.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[ShineParticipant 1696]

Women want the good bits of equality but not the bad like working the dirty jobs or frontline infantry. Want their cake, want to eat it too.

"Society is to blame" Denton

[Anonymous 54]

Its diffecult to pull off tounge and cheek in print.

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Shine wrote:

Women want the good bits of equality but not the bad like working the dirty jobs or frontline infantry. Want their cake, want to eat it too.

Finally,someone who gets it ! The reality is what women think they want, in terms of equality, is going to remove all the benefits that they have used men for. If men are going to stand up for themselves and be men, then they themselves need to understand how the social conventions that have been put onto them are really to their detriment. And MGTOW is the consequence and only solution.

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[HitmanParticipant]

Sorry but the op was trying to show a world where real equality would happen and how it would work. .
I don’t think he’s a tuna,
Just doesn’t have the creds here to take a jump quite so far. .
Jan..you know I got your back but I think he wasn’t trying to get personal about your autism.
I don’t think so anyway.
Old Sage said it ,tongue in cheek is tough in print. .

[HitmanParticipant]

Calling it too subtle for someones understanding is condescending.
Please rephrase op.
That was uncalled for.

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Wally wrote:

Your writings indicate you don’t fully comprehend MGTOW, you are discussing ways a marriage should be done equally, when in simplest terms it shouldn’t be done at all. Your overthinking it.

I appreciate your clarification Wally, but I disagree. Perhaps the title put up a red flag to the bull, and the subtly was lost. My final point says that in an equal world, marriage is completely unnecessary. My intention was to counter the feminist arguments that I have to contend with, which all revolve around equality of the sexes.

But wrt to what MGTOW is about, the website states :

M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.
My conclusion that I hoped people would derive would have been that all the social preconceptions around equality of sexes is silly, because you would have to take the good with the bad, and that is something women don’t want, and would actually help men.

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[Anonymous 0]

If only true equality existed between the genders…. Too many groups have too much to loose to let that happen though. Where is the profit in true equality? Simply put there isn’t. In this light feminism has saved me lots of money and time already. They say in every black cloud there is a silver lining, the silver lining here is all the money saved, heart ache, and time that can be put forward to furthering one’s self without a woman in one’s life. Feminism being the black cloud.

[Anonymous 54]

Sometimes I am grateful for my dislexia. It puts the brakes on my Intelect.
I observed for a good while before I jumped in.I learned what triggers tuna alerts. What to avoid.It just takes a while to get the jist of things.

[HitmanParticipant]

I got your point but please be cool with the sarcasm.

[OzguyParticipant 182]

Feminism is great for men. You get the see what kind of pig she really is with all the filters off…

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Anonymous wrote:

Its difficult to pull off tongue and cheek in print.

Based on the reaction, I think OldSage you are 100% right 🙂

For all you other guys that may be reading it, I appreciate this is a sensitive topic, not my intention to cause offense, but just relax, disagree if you don’t agree with logic, but please don’t react like a woman ! (tongue in cheek remark there )

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