When you finally had your "Aha!" moment…….how let down did you feel?

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

And how long did it take you to get over it?

When I say “Aha!” moment I am talking about when it hit you……the fact that women AWALT. The fact that, as Keymaster once said so perfectly “You will not find comfort in the bosom of a woman.”

When it first hit me I was sad about it, I won’t lie. But in time I am learning to be okay with it.

It’s just a big letdown though, you gotta admit. To realize that women AWALT and they are incapable of true love.

When women at work ask me about why I don’t bother with women relationships I tell them it just ain’t worth it. They can’t believe I feel this way. Or maybe they can? LOL

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[MecklotParticipant 608]

Interesting question. When my “aha” moment came to me, I wasn’t let down at all. I don’t talk much to people, so I had no strong opinions and bonds with women in the first place. If anything, it was like I found a million dollars.

Or saved a million dollars. Yeah, that’s more fitting considering what a man goes through in marriage and divorce.

[OldBillParticipant]

I didn’t have an Aha moment. My “moment” was more like a creeping realization over several years. There was never the sharp “shock” most men suffer through.

I’ve never been married, so never divorced either. Never engaged too. Except for once several years ago during a blue period in my life, I’ve never allowed myself to get into a situation where a woman could truly f~~~ me over and then I quickly got out within a day of “waking up”.

In my early to mid 20s, I saw too many guys completely f~~~ed over by wives and girlfriends. I was fortunate to learn from the horrors those men suffered.

So, no Aha moment. There was a weekend where I reflected on the behaviors and choices I’d been making for years. More of an “Finally say it out loud to yourself” moment, but no immediate, blinding realization.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Lone Wolf83Participant 825]

When I finally swallowed the red pill, I was a bit depressed about it as I was brainwashed since childhood that this was the path I was supposed to take later in life. It didn’t hit me that hard though as I have been constantly lied to since childhood as well. Now that I am free from the shackles of religion and society, I serve no purpose other than to keep living life and just trying out new things as they come. Freedom to do whatever I want, whenever I want, is such a liberating experience that I will not let go until I take my last dying breath.

If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I never really had an Aha! moment either…just a collection of observations and experiences over time that shaped my views on relationships with women. I think we are all pretty much raised to place women on a pedestal and as you progress through life you realize they have done nothing to make them worthy of such, and in fact most of them are just downright conniving and selfish.

If anything I just wished I could go back in time and have 32 year old me tell 16 year old me whats up. I’m not exactly in a bad spot in life now but I’d have done some things differently if I had known from the start what a bust marriage and long term relationships with women in general are.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

My “aha” moment came out the blue while I was at work. Relations~~~s never felt right and I knew something was wrong when I started seeing how women acted.I never been married and for some reason never trusted a woman enough to attach myself to her. MGTOW forums gave me confirmation on these feelings and the redpill rage dropped on me like a sack of potatoes. My human hard drive went crazy because the inevitable was me reprogramming every lie,advise,movie,as well as family values taught or tried being taught to me,2 week depression followed. I made the journey and now I can confidently say im on the other side. For those that are going through the redpill rage phase,just keep pushing through it until you reach the other side of peace and clarity. My life has never been so great since this awakening.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

It was a period of depressing moments.

I cannot see the world the same again. Videos, music, books that I enjoy once becomes irritating.

Then gleaning wisdom here, I realize I am free. I need not work so hard for a “family”. I can retire early. I don’t need to put up with women nagging. I have much more money and time for myself. The red pill rage subside and peace comes.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 5]

I never had a aha moment through out my life I was always being talked down by girls I thought damn who do they think they are ? acted all high and mighty why because of their sexuality get f~~~ed.mgtow gave me a different approach to the problem ignoring them and to not notice them.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

When you grow up with a lot of sisters you learn AWALT before walking and talking.

It starts out as All Women In My Family Are Like That. Then you learn All Women In My School Are Also Like That. After that you learn All Women In This College Are Also Like That. Finally you come to the realization All Women Are Like That. All of them.

You horizon may expand as you get older, but it remains at the same level.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

I would love to say I learnt by observing other men being destroyed in divorces…

I would also love to say, that I had the wherewithal to learn from mere observation of females in school, etc….

But alas, I can’t. Nor can I even say I had an “aha” moment.
It was through a “perfect” track record of failed relationships in my life that finally shook & shocked me awake.

Of course, the jolting it required, felt like my brains were being scrambled against my skull…but regardless, I am thankful for it.

As for how I felt about it all…yeah, no stone “emotion” was left unturned, during this 25 yr process.

[Anonymous 18]

The ‘aha’ moment felt like paying off debt.

A certain freedom came about it – the cage was invisible yet it was there all along.

[Anonymous 1]

For me, it was an odd feeling, that everything you had been told to search for for your whole life was a lie (like in the Matrix films). I felt a bit lost, honestly.

Coming to grips with that took a little while, but then I learned to concentrate on doing things that make me happy, feel good about my self, as well as expand my mind and increase my wellbeing as a man, as well as learn to help other men who were shat out the other end of the meat-grinder.

It turned into, and still is, an exhilarating state of being. There is nothing that could tempt me to go back.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I never had an acute “aha” moment. I must be slow, as it took me a few years to recognize the truth about women. I think I was initially in denial. I started off as a nice guy who was treated badly despite being attractive and successful. After being married to an actual psychopath and then dating a bipolar chick I saw the light.
I wish I had learned the truth before losing a house, car, and pension plan.
But that is in the past and now life is much more peaceful and enjoyable. I never felt let down, rather a feeling of relief.
I threw a party the day my divorce was final.

[AttonParticipant]

The fact that, as Keymaster once said so perfectly “You will not find comfort in the bosom of a woman.”

That was BarBar.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[BrujahParticipant 579]

Took me almost a year upon discovery of MGTOW and going all out on the content available. Went through all the s~~~ty phases like the red pill rage and then the hopelessness of having no direction… I’m currently at the stage where I’m becoming comfortable being invisible. I still look at all these entitled princess walking about with disdain though. Still waiting for the day it simply becomes totally irrelevant. The hate needs to dissolve into indifference.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Brujah wrote:

The hate needs to dissolve into indifference.

It will come…just allow yourself the time you need to process your thoughts and all.

I used to be so angry with myself for being slow on the draw with certain aspects of life. Especially one’s that were emotionally charged in a negative way. Would be hard on myself, for not realizing things sooner, and so forth.

Patience seemed like an unobtainable goal for myself….and while my mindset was in the whirlwind of my previous point, it was. Your mileage may vary, but giving myself time & space helped so much.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3301]

For me it was my divorce, but even then it took me another year before I realised the truth about what had happened to me. I was a typical beta husband, let the wife stay at home, pay for everything and do everything for her. I could not understand how I had been the perfect husband to her and yet she had an affair behind my back.

I didn’t understand how she was so cold and calculating about everything, yet I was destroyed as everything I had ever known was taken away from me. I did not understand how someone who I thought always had my back could do this to me.

I was so frightened of being single and alone that I started online dating with pretty disastrous results. I was needy, clingy desperate and ended up spending a fortune on dates for a peck on the cheek and a “Thank you for a lovely evening”

So I stumbled along like this for a year or so and gradually put everything that had happened to me into some sort of order. I was starting to realise things were not as I had been led to believe and having read other stories of men’s divorces they mirrored mine exactly. I realised this could not be a coincidence and realised that all divorces are the same. I then randomly came across the manosphere and this gave names to my theories, I then discovered MGTOW and everything fell into place.

It has got to the point now where if I read a “My wife is acting suspiciously” post on a non MGTOW website I know exactly how it is going to pan out. I will post my theories about how there is another man only for the original poster so say there is no way there could be another man. There will then be a long line of blue pill men stating how I am bitter, not all women are like that and that their little perfect snow flake could never do that to them.

I think one of the differences between Alphas and Betas is that Alphas are born knowing how the world works and what women are like. This is why they pump and dump them and get away with it. For Beta blue pill men it takes something major happening in their lives to discover the red pill and even then there are men so blue pill they get married again.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2097]

Disappointment, relief, disbelief, denial, acceptance, regret, peace BUT it’s an on going process. I think if you meet, date, interact with enough of ’em and have a critical brain eventually you will reach this conclusion. Emotions may sabotage but in your heart of hearts you KNOW it to be true.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[Anonymous 1]

OldBill wrote:

I didn’t have an Aha moment. My “moment” was more like a creeping realization over several years. There was never the sharp “shock” most men suffer through.

I’ve never been married, so never divorced either. Never engaged too. Except for once several years ago during a blue period in my life, I’ve never allowed myself to get into a situation where a woman could truly f~~~ me over and then I quickly got out within a day of “waking up”.

In my early to mid 20s, I saw too many guys completely f~~~ed over by wives and girlfriends. I was fortunate to learn from the horrors those men suffered.

So, no Aha moment. There was a weekend where I reflected on the behaviors and choices I’d been making for years. More of an “Finally say it out loud to yourself” moment, but no immediate, blinding realization.

I can relate to this, never been married aswell. Never got screwed hard by a manipulative woman, my bluepilled ass was used emotionally by some of them, I had always a lot of signals and doubts about women and their behavior, deep inside of me I wished I was wrong, truth is hard to swallow sometimes. In the end I am finally free. My low SMV has probably saved me in many situations, after raising it(manly because of body improvements due to diet/work out) I started to get a lot more of attention. Too late, I am full redpill now and my shield is always up.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Gnostic wrote:

Then gleaning wisdom here, I realize I am free. I need not work so hard for a “family”. I can retire early. I don’t need to put up with women nagging. I have much more money and time for myself. The red pill rage subside and peace comes.

This is what made the red pill not so bitter for me. You stop and think its going to cost you 250k per kid, 250k for a house, and probably another 250k in extra s~~~ for the wife over the years at least…just random s~~~ you’d never buy as a single person she’d think she “needed.” So all in all…marriage and a couple kids is going to cost you a million dollars. Even if you make 100k, you only take home 70k after taxes…that is your net pay for 15 years devoted entirely to marriage/family, and when you add in a divorce it could get even more expensive!

Additionally you will have income freed up earlier in life to invest heavily at a younger age, and the earlier in life you get your nest egg growing, the longer it has to compound. This will knock years off how long you have to work as well. If you live frugal, get a decent job, and invest early, there is no reason you can’t retire 20-30 years before you are old enough to start collecting social security.

When I start thinking how awesome a woman would have to be to make me want to work away an extra 20-30 years of my life away I just laugh to myself…not gonna happen. For way less than 20-30 years wages I could afford a life time supply of maids and hookers that will do exactly what I ask of them and never complain, bitch, or nag, and if I just want companionship platonic friends and a dog will fill that role just fine.

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