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I have watched a few doco’s on this and the best one i have ever seen was ” LOOSE CHANGE PART TWO ” . Strongly recommend it . I myself beleave it was a conspiracy .
Whats your thoughts .
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False flag “attacks” have been used in the past to create a pretense for war so I believe it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that the US Government would willingly and knowingly allow and even support the killing of American civilians on American soil.
The financial situation of the actual land and buildings themselves would have made them an appealing target for such an operation.
But mere plausibility isn’t enough and the evidence would have to be overwhelming… like video recordings of principal individuals actually plotting the event. Irrefutable and undeniable. Without that kind of evidence, theories will continue to be dismissed out of hand.
I’m not going there.
However, it happened at the right time, but coincidences do happen.
So…I don’t know.
Maybe that is the most troubling part is if honest, hard working people aren’t sure. Then the government has a problem.
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Absolutely, why you ask?
a) Jet fuel is similar to Kerosene, highly explosive certainly but able to melt steel? No way, and most of it burned off in the initial explosion.
b) How many burning building pancake? I can only think of two–the towers. Plenty of tall building caught fire yet none others seem to do this? And if this sort of thing occurred naturally why does it take demolition crews hours of work to produce the same effect.
c) Follow the money and the power—who wer the winners and losers? The government ended up giving itself vast unconstitutional power as a result and as a door prize was handed an excuse to go to war with Iraq–again. For the government it was a two-fer.
d) Only about a third of the normal amount of people that would have been present were there—all the high power big shots were strangely absent—can you say tipped off.
e) box cutters as a lethal weapon? Not in this life time without a lucky shot. Yes it can grievously injure but two guys armed with these held off the crew and passangers of the Penn. plane. Not buying it.
It led to the patriot act. Who would vote against the patriot act?
A more accurate title would have been the law enforcement modernization act and it would have been debated for 8 months.
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all of the above,
and look at bldg 7..
no plane hit it,
and it collapsed like the towers did..
detonation.
no doubt.
who did it and who knew?
can’t say for sure.That movie LOOSE CHANGE part two is incrediable .Talks stats figures witnessds and what i found an intresting part is the so called pilot hanny hahn hahn could hardly fly a cessna .The interview with the pilot that owned the cessna was unbelievable. That impossible stats that the metal in the buildings would not have melted . Come on there passports found at the bottom of the towers unscaved in the ruble from the pilots .
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Anonymous11Conspiracy fact.

Anonymous22all of the above,
and look at bldg 7..
no plane hit it,
and it collapsed like the towers did..
detonation.
no doubt.
who did it and who knew?
can’t say for sure.And what makes it even more strange is that they knew WTC 7 was going to collapse before it happened.
.None of it ever smelled or looked right from the second I watched it live.
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
None of it ever smelled or looked right from the second I watched it live.
911 was a fundamental moment in my life. I realized how deep the rabbit hole goes. There is nothing like seeing laws of physics suspended on a live national TV
I told my friends the same day – now watch Bush invade Iraq. They thought I was crazy at first, but I got a whole lot of respect later when they witnessed my prediction come true.proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
a) Jet fuel is similar to Kerosene, highly explosive certainly but able to melt steel? No way, and most of it burned off in the initial explosion.
The jet fuel didn’t have to melt them. Once the jets hit them the impact was enough to move some of the support beams, and steel weakens as you heat it. You now had weakened steel carrying loads at angles it was not designed to and we all know what happened after that.
b) How many burning building pancake? I can only think of two–the towers. Plenty of tall building caught fire yet none others seem to do this? And if this sort of thing occurred naturally why does it take demolition crews hours of work to produce the same effect.
Can you find any other examples of burning sky scrapers that also got smacked by a jet or some other tremendous force strong enough to move support beams before the burning began?
Besides if you watch the footage of the towers collapsing they initially collapse from where they got hit up, and its that tremendous amount of weight with momentum behind it that pancakes everything below it. If those pilots hit the exact floors that were laced with explosives so they’d start to collapse in the right spot, those were some pretty badass pilots.
c) Follow the money and the power—who wer the winners and losers? The government ended up giving itself vast unconstitutional power as a result and as a door prize was handed an excuse to go to war with Iraq–again. For the government it was a two-fer.
Iraq was because of WMD’s…we knew Hussein wasn’t a radical Muslim and he kept that s~~~ out of his country, and it was the radical Muslims who were blamed for 9/11. We wouldn’t have ever heard the WMD excuse if 9/11 was the excuse for Iraq.
d) Only about a third of the normal amount of people that would have been present were there—all the high power big shots were strangely absent—can you say tipped off.
Wondering if you can back this up. I’ve never heard this one, and with minimal research I came up with…
“The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) estimated that about 17,400 civilians were in the World Trade Center complex at the time of the attacks. Turnstile counts from the Port Authority suggest 14,154 people were typically in the Twin Towers by 8:45 a.m. Most people below the impact zone safely evacuated the buildings.”
I found figures that suggested bigger numbers went there over the course of a day…but they all obviously didn’t pack in at the same time, work the same hours, and leave at the same time. Maybe some big wigs weren’t there as well…but if you look at a 15,000 person sample size I’m sure quite a few were on vacation, called in sick, had a scheduled day off as not everyone works mon-fri schedules, was scheduled to come in later in the day, worked out of more than one office, or was away for some sort of conference as that isn’t atypical of upper management types…I bet you had a ton of low level employees who worked out of the towers who just happened to be lucky and not be there on that day at that time as well.
e) box cutters as a lethal weapon? Not in this life time without a lucky shot. Yes it can grievously injure but two guys armed with these held off the crew and passangers of the Penn. plane. Not buying it.
Well it was 4 of them…and after initially taking control of the plane they claimed to have a bomb on it. Once passengers heard about the other planes going down and tried to fight back because they realize they were f~~~ed if they did nothing. All the terrorists had to do was turn it into the ground…sure they didn’t hit their target but they wanted to die that day anyhow and still took a plane full of people with them.
If you could walk to the front of a diving plane with all that g-force pushing you back and 4 assholes slashing knives at you just to get into the c~~~pit of a plane you have no clue how to fly and straighten it out all before hitting the ground you are a better man than I, because I know I couldn’t do it.
Plus there was only 40 people on that flight. How many do you think were fit men that could really do anything even if they wanted to, maybe 10 of them? 10 on 4 when you have to fight in a narrow walkway and the 4 have knives isn’t exactly an easy fight for the passengers. They weren’t using those little box cutters that only slide out 1/4 of an inch either, they were using the breakaway ones that you can slide out 4+ inches, and they didn’t have to be lethal…they just had to make some nasty bloody cuts to make people panic.
I watched it live.
i watched it with my own eyes as it happened.
lucky i got out alive.F~~~ hit man you should do a thread on that sometime bro . That would be an intresting story .
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I live in a condemned family campground. I don’t have the luxury to trust any form of government and the lies they peddle.
Why all the FEMA camps?
Why all the plastic FEMA coffins?
Long history of abuse.
Can never be trusted in any capacity other than self destruction, except we go first.
Nuclear experiments on children.
Ruby Ridge, shoot a child in the back.
Wacko Texas, burn a congregation alive then get promoted.
911.
Seems indicative of all the wonderful things any rouge government would NATURALLY do.
Trust is a luxury I will never afford being that my trust stands assaulted and thereby violated.
Better off without a USA and many other forms of government. Perhaps they’re all bad and need to be condemned themselves and shoved in plastic FEMA coffins!
Apparently the put optiones on the stock exchange went threw the roof on the air line and the towers .
The other airline that crashed in the field just looking at the debree and so called hole is sus .
THAT f~~~ing hole in the Pentagon and even those cable rolls in front were not moved .
apparently the discription of some wheel from the jet engine found in the pentagon was not a rolls royce part but a perfect identical match of a cruise missile part .
LOOSE CHANGE .part two . Got to see it guys .
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My opinion is that it’s still a theory. And a theory is not fact. And although many of you raised good points, Beer raised equally good counterpoints. Now, as Jan said, “However, it happened at the right time, but coincidences do happen”.
Personally I want to believe it was NOT an inside job. Because if it was, it’s already over and The West is doomed.
However, my skepticism doesn’t come from what is there, or from all the conspiracy theory reports or videos.
My skepticism comes from from what is NOT there. And what is not there is this:
It was claimed that the purpose of the terrorists is to inflict maximum civilian casualties. If that is the case, and given how easy it would be to do so in our major metropolitan areas, how come it hasn’t happened again? Now, you might say that our alphabet agencies are really, realllllyyyy good, but they cannot be perfect.
That was my response. Do not take it as an approval or disapproval, as I don’t pass such judgements on theories.The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
Well I respect Beer’s point of view and his arguments, but I remain unconvinced. IT was the 9/11 commission report that claimed the jet fuel melted beams–not me. I wish I could argue the engineering aspect but I’m not an engineer but it seems strange that a small plane could alter the structural integrity of the entire building—I mean it isn’t made of paper and tooth picks. Presumably it is designed to survive even an earthquake which seems more powerful to me than a plane.
Actually I believe I reason for Iraq was not WMD but rather a two fold reason–First Hussein threatened to allow oil to be sold under the oil for food arraignment for other currency than the US dollar (there’s a cardinal sin) and he was paying 50K to every palistinian family who had someone killed, or lost property during the second inftafada.
It was the media who reported that the casualties would have been much higher if the “customary” number of people had been there so that may not be true.
All I can say about the fight–clearly there were a number capable of fighting back because some chose to, and from a tactical standpoint the passengers have the advantage because if the terrorist is in the isle he can be attacked and overcome from all sides. If not and he is at the head of the isle as some as he is engaged the other passengers can move up.
As for “fit” to resist—anyone in a situation that involves a fight for survival will join in and use any means available because there is no other choice–OK except sit and wait to die but who the hell is going to do that. I think the will to live is a great motivator.
But as I said you raise some good points but I am still unconvinced. The government does care a fig about the citizens and would willingly sacrifice them in a false flag that will contribute to their policy agenda:
Example: pretending we didn’t know the Jap fleet was going to attack Pearl Harbor, in effect allowing it to happen because Roosevelt wanted to get into the war. OR deliberately placing the Lusitania in harms way to produce the event that occurred, and there are others that were used to get us into Viet Nam etc.
the obvious question is: if the tactic of flying planes into things was so effective why has it never been replicated? Are the defenses just so good? Or is it to do it they need the complicity of a government?
I would like to share some of the visual as well as written evidence on this subject. From all my research and investigation, my conclusion is that 9/11 was indeed an inside job.
Man even the architect of the twin towers came out and said that these buildings were made like a net, that would take the jet airliner impact and it would not collapse due to that. They have done experiments on youtube trying to melt steel with airplane fuel. The steel beams could have melted, but not all the way down to so many floors. How does that even make sense?
And then there are firefighters who talk about hearing load explosions in the lobby of the buildings. I mean common…and don’t you guys forget the story when they tried to bring down the towers in 93! So here goes!
I love this video. Everyone in it says they heard explosions in the lobby. It is IMPOSSIBLE for all of them to be wrong on this one. So the question is, why the explosions on the bottom of the building?
Remember what happened in 93? They tried to BOMB the very SAME buildings!
More witnesses of lobby explosions
and some file where the found explosive material known as nanothermite.
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/bentham_open/ActiveThermitic_Harrit_Bentham2009.pdf
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Well, when you take a “conspiracy theory” and disprove & remove the “theory” part . . . . . what are you left with?
Right.
A conspiracy.
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