URGENT! HELP NEEDED!

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Just an update for everyone here:

I couldn’t get out of taking the pill, as she demands that I take it in front of her because she doesn’t trust that I’ll take the medicine. She tried to shame me into why she is forcing me to take the pill. I don’t know what to do.

The drugs are starting to affect me; I’ve begun to feel number, and I can feel myself losing my emotions. I don’t know what the hell I’m going to do. I don’t want to become a zombie, and there’s no way in Hell I can escape this.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

I do welbutrin…19 years. F~~~ing great s~~~. For mild depression.

Just research things well.

Crank up the no f~~~s given dial.

Keep your mouth shut and YOU decide YOUR life.

For OCD..
Long hard work hours.

Keep mr. Lizard brain distracted.

Zero impulse behaviors. SPOCK LOGICAL TIME.

Stealthy

Age?

Thanks, Stealthy! I’m 17, and I tried to get rid of my suicidal thoughts by focusing on other things, but the school forced me to go see this psychologist, and now I’m being drugged against my will.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Anonymous wrote:

Not all Meds work for every one.
Some times it takes a few months to determine if there helpful. My x takes welbutrin and has good sucsess with it.
See a profesional.

That is NOT us.

Thanks, Old Sage. I tried to convince the doctor and my mom to not put me on medicine, and the doctor mostly deflected my claims on the substance. When I told him about the side effects and risks of taking Prozac, he merely told me that the studies I read online were false and that the only side effects of the drug were increased bowel movement and perspiration.

It’s sick how they can get away with this, and I simply don’t understand how these pricks can sleep at night knowing they are poisoning kids like me. As soon as I graduate high school, I’m leaving this country for good and never returning.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Anonymous wrote:

Mysterious Man wrote:

I’m actually to graduate high school one year early and study abroad in order to save on tuition. I’m probably going to study in Europe. I can get my car, house, and everything else later.

Moving a continent away will definitely help you to grow up. And medical system is not that crazy here, doctors don’t stuff people with antidepressant zombie drugs.

For “living somewhere” a lot of people will be in the same situation. They get to know each other and rent apartments together. Or get a bed in a dormitory. that’s cheap, but 3-4 people in one room is not comfortable. University students can and lot of them does work here (there are student-worker agencies who can give simple works) But for a bigger career, join the research group / whatever company at an early age, and be there learn all the detail while working small tasks for them. I’ve done that at age of 19, it really worked in the last 11 years for me.

And in Europe, if you have really good grades, then you receive “motivation money” for that. Go for it. And most of University is free.

You most likely don’t need a car here for now, public transport is way better, and cheaper, and you can also ride a bike (good ways in most of the cities). Car is a luxury (and a sink of money) for most young people.

Thanks, Darth! I definitely want to go backpacking through Europe one day, and doing some research, Switzerland seems like the perfect place to reside while I study abroad. Once I become a citizen of the EU, and have enough money to spend I plan to buy real estate in several countries, just so that I can travel as much as I want to without the fear of running out of money.

Since I plan on majoring in Computer Science, I want to intern at several big companies in Switzerland, such as Google and HP.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Mutineer wrote:

Juehue wrote:

From what I’ve learned in neurology, SSRI don’t help directly. They merely increases neurogenesis (a positive side effect) which make you feel better. At most SSRI work as well as an active placebo. Active placebo is stronger than regular placebo because you keep believing in the placebo due to the side effect of the drugs (rather than sugar pill)

My professor also asked the class “should you continue to SSRI knowing it doesn’t work to patient?” Of course the class was split on this. It is up to you.

If it’s known by doctors and psychiatrists that SSRI’s are just an active placebo then it’s immoral to prescribe them. Psychiatry is a malpractice which needs to be abolished.

Most illness and disease is caused by inflammation and “mental disorders” are no different. I recall a study where exercise was more effective at treating OCD than anti-depressants. Anti-depressants plus exercise was less effective than exercise alone. So they have a deleterious effect.

SSRI’s enhance fear and anxiety in animal studies and are linked to increased violence and suicide in humans. To prescribe them in the treatment of anxiety is f~~~ing sadistic.

The older anticholinergic anti-depressants more than double your risk of dementia and cause short term memory problems.

I wish i was as switched on at 17 as you Mysterious Man. You’re no more crazy than any other asshole out there ha.

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Thanks, Mutineer. That really means a lot.

If only I could get this through to my doctor. Even if I can’t avoid taking the medication, I’m going to act like I’m better just to get off this prescription.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Mysterious Man wrote:

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Mysterious Man wrote:

OldBill wrote:

Mysterious Man wrote:

I turned 17 last month, but I’m pretty sure I can make my way in the world just fine.

So you lied to join here? Great way to start, kid.

Anyway, you’re pretty sure you can make you way? You’re asking for advise on how to – and I quote – run away from home. Beaver Cleaver “runs away from home” because he’s eight f~~~ing years old. Bobby Brady “runs away from home” because he’s eight f~~~ing years old too. You’re seventeen, start acting like it. You’re moving out, not running away.

Chronologically, you’re allegedly an adult in many ways. Mentally, you’re still Beaver Cleaver and Bobby Brady. It’s well past time to start changing that.

At 17 I had a job, car, and apartment with my friends. At 17 your Mommy is still medicating you.

At 17, you have limited autonomy over your movements and body. Not as much as an adult, but more than an eight year old. In many states, you can leave home and not be forced to return. In several states you can make medical decisions for yourself. You need to research what the statutes are in you specific state, you could very well legally veto being placed on Prozac.

Move out, sleep on a friend’s couch, learn what your rights are, and start growing up.

To be honest, you describe me accurately. Everyone tells me that I need to grow up, but I don’t know how. If you don’t mind, I would like some advice on growing up. I’m not saying this to be condescending or languid, but in a serious manner, as someone who wants to better himself (that’s one of the reasons I went MGTOW).

When I asked Keymaster and the other admins about joining, they said that they couldn’t prevent me from doing so, but that if I couldn’t handle what was here, I could leave at any time. Here’s the original thread:

My Story and Future

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I’ve ultimately decided against running away from home; I seriously thought about it, and I’ve decided to overcome my problems myself- without the use of Prozac.

I’m actually to graduate high school one year early and study abroad in order to save on tuition. I’m probably going to study in Europe. I can get my car, house, and everything else later.

Unfortunately, I don’t have anyone I can stay with, as I do not have any friends. However, I will make sure to be diligent in researching the laws in my state on medication. I’m sure that my state has primitive laws in this regard, but I’ll make sure to become more educated on the matter.

I’m sorry if I’ve caused you any trouble, Bill. I don’t want be a nuisance on this site, and just want to change for the better.

Your doing good. I don’t know who you are or what you are like. But check out these options:

Go sailing, any yacht club has postings for crew members to sail free, you can get around the world.

One way ticket to Chile. Make it hard, you will find something.

A few years back you could join the military and end up on Omaha beach with a landing craft opening the ramp and a 95% chance of death. My point? Your young and it ain’t thaaaaat bad. Watch The Godfather, when Vito comes to America alone. Watch it

Thanks, Chaff. I’m still deciding on whether or not I should take a gap year and explore the world before I embark on my quest to become a legendary engineer.

I may enroll in sailor school down in the BVI (British Virgin Islands, where I am a Belonger to the territory; this essentially means that I am considered a full citizen, and can work, buy and purchase real estate, etc.), or go backpacking through Europe, or even commit myself to a year of self-studying and learning as I pick up vocational skills such as gunsmithing, locksmithing, electrical proficiency, and survival skills. After all, in this world, one needs to be able to live off the land, like the cowboy in my profile picture.

I don’t know if I will go through with it; I definitely see the use of it, especially since my classes right now are sucking up my time.

I’m going to definitely pick up the Godfather and watch it sometime over the weekend; I’ve heard about the movie, but I’ve never really seen it for myself.

Believe it or not, West Point and the USCGA have noticed me on Cappex, this site where colleges can find and tag certain candidates who they want to convince to go to their school. I have images if you need proof.

I don’t think anyone on this site would tell you not to take a year to re-cage your head. Actually, it’s sounds really fun and would balance your obvious academic ability. Got to have balance. I say go to BVI. You will find something. Also, for the movies you can just go to 123movies???? I think? And download The Godfather series.

Thanks, Chaff! I usually just torrent what I don’t have; education and knowledge shoudln’t have a price tag, yet they expect me to shell out hundreds of dollars for textbooks on Computer Science and Mathematics. It’s the same with movies.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Sounds like you are having a bad reaction to me.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Binary Logic wrote:

The ripe ol’ age of 17… aren’t we supposed to be Neurotic as hell, obsessed with games, girls, science related stuff. Aren’t we supposed to be odd? Isn’t that right around the time that we start to discover our future awkward (and later, amazing) self? We always try to label s~~~ and prescribe it something, when the truth of the matter is we are just coming of age and there isn’t an easy way around it. I sure is hell didn’t want to spend it in some medicated state all doped up… for what?

You’re preaching to an empty church, Binary. ADHD is just the equivalent of “I don’t want to be in this stupid classroom, get me out of here.” The Matrix doesn’t take too kindly to anyone trying to evade or disrupt the system.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

I meant the medicine. Maybe see if you can get them to let you stop to see if you feel better.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[TecumsehParticipant 98]

My friend, there is nothing wrong with Prozac. Millions of people have been taking it for 3 decades now. It is very safe. I take it. It helps me immensely and I have experienced no side effects except delayed ejaculation (which can be seen as a positive). I’m not some sort of drugged-up robot and if it’s effecting my brain, it sure doesn’t prevent me from having a professional job and then going and doing a 30 minute standup comedy set (entirely from memory of course).

Make sure you’re getting your information from reputable sources. There’s plenty of stuff out there on the internet that says psychotropic medication is evil, poison, some sort of conspiracy, etc. 99% of it is horses~~~. If you want to believe thousands of psychiatrists and doctors WORLDWIDE are in a giant conspiracy to make their patients sick, and the only guys who REALLY know the truth happen to run cheesy-looking websites and also think 9-11 was an inside job, I can’t help you overcome that notion. I can tell you that personally, I’d be dead without SSRIs. That doesn’t necessarily mean that YOU need them. Discuss it with your doctor directly, not your mom, and decide for yourself. But don’t let unfounded fears influence your decision.

Also note that it takes 2-6 weeks to really start working and dissociative sensations and upset stomach are common for the first 5-7 days of taking it.

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Tecumseh wrote:

My friend, there is nothing wrong with Prozac. Millions of people have been taking it for 3 decades now. It is very safe. I take it. It helps me immensely and I have experienced no side effects except delayed ejaculation (which can be seen as a positive). I’m not some sort of drugged-up robot and if it’s effecting my brain, it sure doesn’t prevent me from having a professional job and then going and doing a 30 minute standup comedy set (entirely from memory of course).

Make sure you’re getting your information from reputable sources. There’s plenty of stuff out there on the internet that says psychotropic medication is evil, poison, some sort of conspiracy, etc. 99% of it is horses~~~. If you want to believe thousands of psychiatrists and doctors WORLDWIDE are in a giant conspiracy to make their patients sick, and the only guys who REALLY know the truth happen to run cheesy-looking websites and also think 9-11 was an inside job, I can’t help you overcome that notion. I can tell you that personally, I’d be dead without SSRIs. That doesn’t necessarily mean that YOU need them. Discuss it with your doctor directly, not your mom, and decide for yourself. But don’t let unfounded fears influence your decision.

Also note that it takes 2-6 weeks to really start working and dissociative sensations and upset stomach are common for the first 5-7 days of taking it.

My doctor said that without them, my OCD and anxiety will not get better, but I’m willing to bet that I can just get better with some counseling.

Most psychiatrists are part of the Big Pharma drug ring, and I don’t want to destroy my health and brain function in order to get over my condition.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Mysterious ManParticipant 337]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Sounds like you are having a bad reaction to me.

Is there a good reaction to being forcibly drugged against my will?

Chaff/Flare wrote:

I meant the medicine. Maybe see if you can get them to let you stop to see if you feel better.

I’ll try to convince the doctor to let me off of this medicine, but I’m not sure if I will succeed.

"Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more." -Nikola Tesla

[Anonymous 3]

Against anxiety: if possible, do what you are afraid of and the anxiety will disappear. If not, earn some more self esteem by achieving hard things or getting some adrenaline. Your instincts will learn to handle fear.

For now: Research all the effects and side effects of that drug. Do not believe to just a few “conteo” websites, do read some real medical newspapers on the active component. These papers are costly (20 dollars or more per download), but you can get a free look-at at lot of university libraries, or pirate them at the Russian website called Sci-hub (domain name is changing always and its sometimes taken down). Also there are some open-access papers (where the authors pay for the publishing)

Also do the research for your said “illnesses” like OCD, in some real scientific stuff. Everyone can write anything on internet, and a lot of it is just false. Do not believe any article which does not have references or real believable experimental data.

Do research, so you can decide wisely to flush the pills on the sink or take them.

This will help you a lot on the long run. And if you find that you really only need counselling, is there anyone who can do this to you in email anonymously? There is a guy here named “Red Pill Counselling” in this site, joined in the last month. He is a qualified psychotherapist.

A qualified psychotherapist joins the ranks of mgtow

And I keep what I said in my last post, if your mother threatens you with police, start documenting it. Install a voice recorder app on your smartphone if you have one, or get a voice recorder USB stick for a few bucks, and back up the data also.

[Anonymous 3]

Mysterious Man wrote:

I can feel myself losing my emotions.

Losing or numbing of emotions might be a good thing. I wish I had lost my emotions when I suffered and watched all that domestic violence in childhood and young age, and suffered all that rejection by girls. I did not have anything to help me, not even beer or vodka was strong enough. (Drinking age here is 18, but no shop really cared back then. I like beer since 16.)

If you become less emotional, then you become more adult. Let your big brain take over. Negative emotions are the problem of life itself. kill them at all costs.

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