Trollers – MGTOW counter attack.

[DocParticipant]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

Onetruemisfit wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

Personally what Nagolbud says in on his Website is enough to demonstrate he isn’t loyal to us.

He is bringing us into disrepute.
He has purposely orchestrated discord so he can sensationalise it for his own gain.

He used us. Period.

There is no debate to be had with the user. The evidence has already spoken.

Uhhh… no.

I’ll say it again on this thread. Nowhere on nagolbud’s blog post does he mention MGTOW.com, or the names of anyone from this site. To try to get him banned for posting on his own site is SJW level sneaky. Its f~~~ing wrong, period.

Secondly, KM has already said in his own words, that nagolbud is “AOK” so the people calling for his head are undermining the wishes of the site owner.

If nagolbud annoys you that much, hit the report button.

I’m just gonna Ignore trolls Cu. That’s my plan.
I don’t know – maybe asking for him to punted is a bit string in some peoples eyes so I take that on board.

But having had a chance to read others contributions here and also reflect as this thread has unfolded in just going to ignore trolls altogether. Line Tower said. Just starve them of attention. If we do thst collectively they have no bullets to fire at us.

I accept KM vouching for Nagolbud but he has upset quite a few people.

KM can decide if he stays or goes.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 12]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m not on this site to discuss, religion, trolls, nagoblud’s blog or the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre.
Call time on the trolls, give em your 2 cense if they need to be called out and alert the genie.

Joller you make no sense – again.
Stop the drinking, will ye!

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

Joller you make no sense – again.
Stop the drinking, will ye!

Apparently you have no sense of humour.

That went straight over your head.

[DocParticipant]

When I posted this thread I was advocating a general strategy for dealing with trolls.

Spot their behaviour. Understand their motives, strategies and aims.

The aim was to raise awareness thst they try to dismantle us or use us for their own gain.

Nagolbud is an example of what I was trying to bring to peoples attention.

If I knew that posting a thread about a certain topic was going to cause divisions between people here I probably wouldn’t post it. Certainly not subjects that are so close to peoples hearts there is little room for compromise.
To me that is purposely lighting the fuse and hoping to get the boom you want. Then on top of that stoking the flames of the fire the boom caused.

I see that as taking the p~~~ out of members here. It’s manipulationof decent people who made the troll welcome.

Since I have been on this forum people seem to have been punted for less.

Thing to think about people like Nagolbud – is that he’s already upset people so where does this go next.

Unless we literally not engage when he posts contentious topics we will fall into his trap again. And on it goes.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

GregB0 wrote:

Thank you Doc for this topic, your observations and suggested procedures. You are spot on. Members forget that we have three options to any forum thread: Fight (immediately respond), Flight (ignore it and hope it goes away) or Freeze (take a moment to think about the post, consider what our initial reaction might be and decide then how we want to respond).

Ditto

Doc wrote:

We need to let them know that WE know what they are doing. The methods they employ and the aims they hope to achieve.

Option 4 :: Call it out without engaging.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[DocParticipant]

Stoking the Atheist versus the religious argument is guaranteed to provoke strong views that opposing sides can’t compromise on. That is entirely understanble that people can’t budge.

So it’s a topic that common sense would say to avoid.

Why sow disharmony?
I can’t see any reason other than to dismantle us or give threads OP content they can sensationalise, and add their interpretation.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[DocParticipant]

KM can decide what he wants to do but I’ll be Keeping an eye out for the trolls and if their strategy appears to be divide us I will Give them the empty chair.

Starve them of attention.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Illusions of creating a martyr complex ?attention ? Who knows freeze out simple way of solving the issue.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

Do not engage and hit the t~~~ button. Your complaint gets logged and flagged to admin, meanwhile the troll has no audience and the site doesnt look like we’re Stalinists purging every dissenting voice. Who knows, he might be trying to post a decent thread?

Or do we not give people chances?

[DocParticipant]

Yep – just ignore. That seems to be what we are all agreeing to.
Unity in that respect.

I just hate to see all the infighting that’s taken place recently.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[DocParticipant]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

Do not engage and hit the t~~~ button. Your complaint gets logged and flagged to admin, meanwhile the troll has no audience and the site doesnt look like we’re Stalinists purging every dissenting voice. Who knows, he might be trying to post a decent thread?

Or do we not give people chances?

Cu – I truly believe in giving people a chance. I font want this thread to be a witch hunt.
As I said I held Nagolbud up as an example of someone sowing disharmony.
Similar to X11.

I am all for just ignoring. That is what I was saying in my original post.
Ok – I said punt and accept I’m being a bit strong so I’ll temper myself in that regard because yes I do believe in redemption.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[MonkParticipant 16975]

Akhilleus wrote:

Illusions of creating a martyr complex ?attention ? Who knows freeze out simple way of solving the issue.

The empty chair is not enough.

If Nagolbud wishes to post his garbage, he may do so. No-one is saying he can’t speak.

But what he can’t do is post it here, because this is not the place for it.

He has no entitlement. Free speech does not give you a right to go anywhere you like and ram yourself into other peoples faces.

He has his channel, his outlet. It’s there for those who want it.

If it is deliberate mischief making – which I think it is – then it needs to be dealt with ruthlessly.

As a matter of interest, a poster with an identical name and near identical content appears on a number of other forums and causes trouble there, too.

[DocParticipant]

That’s the central word you use there Monk.

MISCHIEF.
People like Nagolbud don’t post threads to learn off us and generate debate that we can learn off each other.

He sets out to intentionally creat mischief. And once he has created it he presses other members buttons to create as much mischief as possible so he can take the result away and use it for his gains.

That is manipulation and exploitation.

It leave me wondering what his motives are.

It can’t be to paint MGTOW in a positive light.
On his website everything is interpreted in manner that suggests MGTOW can’t control their emotions.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Monk wrote:

The empty chair is not enough.

If Nagolbud wishes to post his garbage, he may do so. No-one is saying he can’t speak.

But what he can’t do is post it here, because this is not the place for it.

He has no entitlement. Free speech does not give you a right to go anywhere you like and ram yourself into other peoples faces.

He has his channel, his outlet. It’s there for those who want it.

If it is deliberate mischief making – which I think it is – then it needs to be dealt with ruthlessly.

As a matter of interest, a poster with an identical name and near identical content appears on a number of other forums and causes trouble there, too.

I’d rather have 100 Nagolbuds than 1 self-appointed tyrant arbitrarily deciding who gets to leave or stay. The latter is far more terrifying and scary. The Nagolbuds can be simply ignored and never threaten each members ability to express themselves. They’re merely annoying. If anything, they’re beneficial as inviting each member to practice self-restraint, a noble virtue.

The self-appointed tyrants are a far bigger problem – they can’t be ignored. They can threaten any member for any reason at any time, because their rules are necessarily arbitrary and capricious.

[Anonymous 42]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

Or do we not give people chances?

I don’t know what “we” do, but what I do is follow my natural instincts.Matthew 7:15-20King James Version (KJV)

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

I’m a Revelations man, some are still “in the beginning”. I know all that! We’er living in the end days, some are stuck in blue pill Renaissance, some are in too much fear and denial that we’re in the end times, he believes in unicorns that do not exist, those that follow such a false profit reminiscing the past and ignoring the present will surly be devoured by the hive.

Islam is the only force on earth keeping women in their place, unfortunately I believe it should be voluntary but women and the law have proven me wrong! The only option is to abandon and dismiss, forever in these end times.

I am a believer by the way. I believe my window into reality is much more transparent than others that haven’t journeyed in my wake through the rocky shoals of injustice and escaping into deep dark waters with the white curtain of surf far behind me.

All the good and godly things I preyed for have been denied me by the hive, the culture, and women no better than pigs or at best goats.

I believe MGTOW is holy justice in each and every way. The snake oil salesman is peddling gynocentric poison, let him poison the fools willing to listen to his redirect that leads men away into gynocentric darkness full of empty fruits that never will exist.

I investigated him and he’s going the wrong way, he should peddle his bulls~~~ @ ROK, MRA, or a thousand other websites the are all going his way!

The spiritual war on men is real! Don’t deny your intellect and gut feeling that nags you every step of the way!

Posting biblical contend praising virtuous women that no longer exist while leaving out all biblical content about the dark and evil heart of women tells all I need to know about this kind of mindset!

It’s so out of tune with reality I got f~~~ing earache!

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

Nagolbud is nothing like XII this topic is ludicrous and basically just a smear on religion/Christianity to shut down freedom of speech. Where are the Christians calling for Atheists to be banned just for starting topics sharing their views? I haven’t seen any. XII attacked lots of people in lots of topics and just seemed like an all around rude dude. Lots of people seemed to have issue with him, it was not because of his views.

Don't care

[Anonymous 1]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

lots of topics and just seemed like an all around rude dude. Lots of people seemed to have issue with him, it was not because of his views.

I do not believe X11 should have been banned.

Unfortunately, this “I’m offended” or “he was mean to me” culture that exists in society is also in action on this site.

I like a lot of the content on here, but there’s too many seem to get offended at basically nothing.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Doc wrote:

That’s the central word you use there Monk.

MISCHIEF.

Good luck defining “mischief”. Many could argue this thread is “mischief” as it advocates banning people for arbitrary reasons, including what they say outside the MGTOW forum.

See how this game is played? A monster is created and then it devours its creator.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

I do not believe X11 should have been banned.

Joller, he wasn’t banned, he was put in the spectator box for berating and verbally degrading another member viciously and with disgusting perverted profanity unbecoming of anything near a gentleman. It was gross to even read! Real nasty, and over nothing!

[Anonymous 42]

surfdude12 wrote:

Good luck defining “mischief”. Many could argue this thread is “mischief” as it advocates banning people for arbitrary reasons, including what they say outside the MGTOW forum.

See how this game is played? A monster is created and then it devours its creator.

Okay, lets give women and their opinions a platform here! lets invite the National Coalition of Women (NOW) and hear what they have to say!

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