Spectrophilia a thing for men today?

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

PistolPete wrote:

I posted this on another thread but it works here too.

There are only two sources of spiritual power: God and Satan. Satan has only the power that God allows him to have, but it is considerable (Job 1:12; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 20:2). To seek spirituality, knowledge, or power apart from God is idolatry, closely related to witchcraft. First Samuel 15:23 says, “For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.” Witchcraft is Satan’s realm, and he excels in counterfeiting what God does. When Moses performed miracles before Pharaoh, the magicians did the same things through demonic power (Exodus 8:7). At the heart of witchcraft is the desire to know the future and control events that are not ours to control. Those abilities belong only to the Lord. This desire has its roots in Satan’s first temptation to Eve: “You can be like God” (Genesis 3:5).

Sorry man I don’t buy into spiritual moral equivalency. Jesus makes very clear what he means by an “unclean” spirit. Hell may be organized as a facsimile of heaven, with their “choirs or angles” but that doesn’t make them heavenly. They are evil and committed to destroying humankind.

If they were committed on destroying us, don’t you think they would’ve done that before the jews even invented the bible 2,000 years ago?, What stopped them is the question… Oh boy, i love you Pete, Don’t take what i have wrote to you personal my friend.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Well i’m not going to argue the point but I will say this I know from personal experience that there are such things. In fact for many years I was an atheist. It was wonderful, and very comforting. Everything boiled down to a question of math or biology. Everything fits into nice neat little boxes; then one day you discover it is all an illusion. There are malevolent spiritual entities, and their opposite number, thank God.

I pray you never experience what I did. I can only tell you I was not hallucinating or asleep. I had an experience very much like the man in the video; and I can assure you it was quite real.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

No worries My friends…I don’t take anything personally and I respect everyone’s opinion. (Even THX)

[AutoliteParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

What is your rational, sensible explanation of the video I posted?

It’s a camera trick, nothing more.

Have you ever heard of the “JREF Challenge”?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

It was an award of one million dollars for anyone who could demonstrate a legitimate supernatural ability or occurrence.

The award went unclaimed for many years and was eventually rescinded to put the available funds to better use.

On a side note, here’s some photography trivia:

Photographs of ghosts never even existed until photography advanced to the point where a ‘double exposure’ could be produced on a film slide!

Now is that a crazy coincidence or what???

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Perhaps…but again from my own personal experience I know what I saw, heard, and experienced. As I said I understand how comforting denial of this sort of thing can be so I understand where you’re coming from I meant no disrespect.

[AutoliteParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Perhaps…but again from my own personal experience I know what I saw, heard, and experienced. As I said I understand how comforting denial of this sort of thing can be so I understand where you’re coming from I meant no disrespect.

I’m not in denial. It’s just that my mind accepts the secular/medical explanations and rejects the supernatural explanations. That’s just how my brain is wired.

Fault me for that if you will. That I can accept. No disrespect intended here either…

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Thats cool—I was the same way for many many years. Tell you the truth sometimes I miss it.

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

Autolite wrote:

PistolPete wrote:

No the occult/spiritual forces are not bulls~~~. The Bible tells us clearly that Satan and his angels are loose on the earth. Jesus himself cast out many demons. The occult and witchcraft are demonic in origin and should be rejected and repudiated. They are contrary to the will of God.

If you want to believe in Satan, demons, ghosts and devils then I won’t try to convince you otherwise. I just present the truth to those who might be sitting on the fence and who are willing to listen.

I’ve learned that people will believe whatever they want to believe despite things like truth, facts and reality. I do not delude myself into thinking that I could ever change that.

I see it as sort of a ‘due diligence’ thing to counter what I know to be BS. I’m not here trying to start an argument. I’m just saying let’s give people both sides of the story and let them make up their own minds…

Let’s give both sides of the story a chance…., well have you ever heard about CERN? in France?, they discovered the god particle you know? and what statue they have outside the building?…. Be my guess.

To me you are someone who needs do to a little bit of “research” is my guess, If you still are in doubt about a creator then Nikola Tesla will put you on your knees, But hey we are all free to believe what we want…

Love to destroy MGTOWs who are non believers, the blue pills comes in many different doses you know?.

[AutoliteParticipant]

For anyone who might be interested, there’s another book that I’d like to recommend:

https://www.amazon.ca/People-Believe-Weird-Things-Pseudoscience/dp/0805070893/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488514806&sr=1-1&keywords=why+people+believe+weird+things

It will help others like me understand why people believe in things that, to us, seem absolutely senseless.

I had a copy that I gave away several years ago to a friend of mine to give to a friend of her’s. This friend of her’s was a college educated professional who really thought that she was being attacked by demons and monsters when she was partially awake or trying to sleep.

The episodes that were described to me sounded like text-book SP episodes. This girl who was experiencing these episodes was Filipino and apparently her cultural/spiritual beliefs had her convinced that these demon attacks were real.

I strongly suggest that anyone here who has dealt with this sort of thing to read up on it and learn as much as possible about Sleep Paralysis.

The attacks aren’t really happening. They’re all in your head but you’re not nuts. Just understanding what’s really going on is important. There are things that you can do, like changing sleep habits and controlling your stress levels, that will keep those ‘demons’ from bothering you…

[AutoliteParticipant]

The man in the mountain wrote:

Let’s give both sides of the story a chance…., well have you ever heard about CERN?

Well it’s like I’ve already told PP, my mind just rejects supernatural explanations. I will assume then that your question was not directed specifically at me.

I’m sure though that there are others here who will find your ‘side of the story’ absolutely fascinating! Sorry, but I’m just not one of them…

[AutoliteParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Perhaps…but again from my own personal experience I know what I saw, heard, and experienced.

I would be interested in hearing the details of your experience although I can understand why you wouldn’t want to share that on a public on-line forum.

In any case, you could Google “hypnopompic” and “hypnogogic’ hallucinations and see if there’s anything similar to your own experience.

Although very rarely, I will still experience a hypnopompic audio hallucination of a phone ringing. But it is only one single solitary ring that I ‘hear’, then I snap fully awake!

And it’s is never more than one ring. But here’s the real freaky part. The ring is the type of ring made those old mechanical bell type rotary dial phones. I don’t have a phone like that in my room. 😀

Other people have described their audio hypopompic hallucinations, and like me, it’s always the exact sound sound that they ‘hear’ each and every time. Some will hear water rushing from a tap, footsteps in a hallway or a door slamming shut.

The mind will recreate a common every day sound and play it back as a aural hallucination under certain conditions. You will really think that you actually heard something when it fact the sound was just all in your own head. Nothing scary about it at all but kinda funny really…

(Further to your question about the ‘ghost video’, you could check this out: http://www.hoaxorfact.com/Paranormal/man-knocked-down-and-dragged-by-a-ghost-caught-on-security-camera-facts.html)

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

PistolPete wrote:

Well i’m not going to argue the point but I will say this I know from personal experience that there are such things. In fact for many years I was an atheist. It was wonderful, and very comforting. Everything boiled down to a question of math or biology. Everything fits into nice neat little boxes; then one day you discover it is all an illusion. There are malevolent spiritual entities, and their opposite number, thank God.

I pray you never experience what I did. I can only tell you I was not hallucinating or asleep. I had an experience very much like the man in the video; and I can assure you it was quite real.

Unless you’ve experienced the supernatural you will never beleive it exists. Pete speaks the truth. Be happy you have not been exposed to what’s all around us all the time. Your senses don’t pick it up if you are normally mentally & physically healthy. You can tune in if you really want to. Astral projection is a good start. You can google it. Doesn’t take long. Once open to receiving frequencies outside the normal level, you may find you wish you had never re-tunned your psychic equipment.

I would strongly advise avoiding experiments in this area. Life is short, don’t invite the restless dead or even worse Demons into your existence. You should not commune with spirits for a reason. One day your physical life will end and you will get proof positve of what lies beyond.

I hope your time here is enlightening and rewarding, so that you may pass to a better place.

Don’t gamble your eternal peace, joy, happiness and love on temporarally playing a game who’s rules you do not understand.

Peace out.

It's Time to get Wise

[AutoliteParticipant]

Greg Honda wrote:

Unless you’ve experienced the supernatural you will never beleive it exists.

Well I have indeed experienced several episodes of the Sleep Paralysis and many do claim that it’s a supernatural phenomenon.

David Hufford is one of them.

My first episode happened when I saw the ‘Old Hag’ for the first time and I was just a little kid. I didn’t know WTF it was and I ran screaming out of my room. The hallucination persisted in front of me as I ran down the hallway to my parents room with my eyes wide open.

Dad told me that I was just having a nightmare. Even as a little kid I knew that this was bulls~~~. You don’t have nightmares running down a hallway with your eyes open.

I have since had several episodes as an adult and I never once considered them to be anything supernatural. And it wasn’t until many years later that I learned what SP actually was.

If you can tell me of an experience (you yourself has had) that seems more paranormal than this then I’d like to hear about it…

[AutoliteParticipant]

Greg Honda wrote:

I would strongly advise avoiding experiments in this area.

There was a guy on YouTube who talked about trying to induce a SP episode. He had heard about SP and didn’t believe it could possibly be as terrifying as people were making it sound.

He eventually managed to induce an episode with sleep deprivation or whatever and he scared the s~~~ out of himself. He made a video to plead with people not to ever intentionally or deliberately try to induce an episode. I thought that it was too f~~~ing funny! 😀

I will describe the fear that I’ve experienced myself as others have. It’s a fear far more intense than any fear you might experience when you’re fully awake. Why this is I am not certain but that’s an accurate assessment.

You really need to experience an episode yourself to really appreciate what I’m talking about, but please just take my word for it.

If you already believe in ghosts, devils and demons, an SP episode can really f~~~ you up… 😀

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

@autolite.

It’s in this post. All true I don’t lie. Take it as you will:

Bunny & Black Eyed Dog

Greg

It's Time to get Wise

[AutoliteParticipant]

Greg Honda wrote:

It’s in this post. All true I don’t lie. Take it as you will:

Dude! You’re suggesting that a NDE is some sort of supernatural experience!?! Seriously?

I’ve seen this issue brought up before on another forum. I will take it for what it is and that being a fairly easily explained medical condition induced by the reduction of oxygen to the brain.

I’m sincerely sorry my friend but we’re not even in the ball-park here reference something that can only be explained as a supernatural occurrence.

Try to understand where I’m coming from. The topic of Sleep Paralysis interests me because I’ve had several episodes myself and I’m telling you that I am certain that there’s nothing supernatural or paranormal about them.

These episodes are scary as s~~~ but there’s nothing really there. It’s all happening inside your own noggin and people who’ve experienced them themselves must be made to understand that or they’ll go bat-s~~~ worrying about devils and demons that are out to get them. Watch the linked YouTube videos. This kinda thing really messes people up who reject the secular/medical explanation and that kind of anxiety and fear is absolutely unnecessary and it’s unhealthy!

There are enough real world problems that people have to deal with day-to-day without compounding people’s anxiety and fears with wild stories about being attacked by imaginary ghosts, goblins or demons.

We need more people to just acknowledge reality and learn to accept it or we’ll just be further adding more fuel to the fire of this already bulls~~~ riddled f~~~ed-up world.

We really should be trying to dial-it down a notch in the spreading of horses~~~ department. I would have thought that there would be more MGTOWs on-board with this.

Sincerely, no offence intended and I didn’t mean to rant but I can’t think of a more honest way of expressing my POV…

[AutoliteParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

What is your rational, sensible explanation of the video I posted?

Question back to you!

Did you check out the explanations for the hypnopomic and hypnagogic hallucinations as I had suggested earlier in the thread? If yes, was there anything about them that was similar to your own experience(s)???

http://www.sleepeducation.org/sleep-disorders-by-category/parasomnias/sleep-hallucinations/overview-facts

[TicParticipant 4329]

PistolPete wrote:

Autolite wrote:

The demons aren’t real of course

Perhaps not associated with sleep paralysis but there are demons and other malevolent entities out there. They are real.

as I have grown older, I come to appreciate the notion of “good” and “evil.” I agree. I believe demons exist and I also believe in guardian angels. I have to…luck alone cannot explain my life experiences.

God bless peace and freedom.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Tic wrote:

I believe demons exist and I also believe in guardian angels. I have to…luck alone cannot explain my life experiences.

Well, they’ve written volumes on how and why people cling to such misconceptions, but I really don’t want to get into that type of discussion here. It’s a ‘bin-there-done-that’ kinda deal for me.

But what about this Sleep Paralysis issue? Did you check out any of the YouTube videos on it?

I am quite familiar with what goes on during a SP episode and I am claiming that it has nothing to do at all with devils or demons.

What do you think? Do you believe that these people who experience SP are really being attacked by evil spirits?

I would think that if these entities were in fact real, a Sleep Paralysis type ‘attack’ would be pretty much a text-book example of how a demon encounter would happen.

I mean I’ve actually ‘seen’ the Old Hag twice! I was partially awake with both eyes wide open. I’m not sure that I’ve heard of a supernatural or a paranormal encounter more vivid than that…

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

PistolPete wrote:

No the occult/spiritual forces are not bulls~~~. The Bible tells us clearly that Satan and his angels are loose on the earth. Jesus himself cast out many demons. The occult and witchcraft are demonic in origin and should be rejected and repudiated. They are contrary to the will of God.

The bible is bulls~~~ as well.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

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