Spectrophilia a thing for men today?

[Anonymous 54]

I am open to the Spirit world. Some people(me) endure an amount of loss that is simply hard to explain.I can feel spirits. Good and Evil.
So far none of them wanted to have sex with me though! Hah.

Men of Science( thats also me) need proof and evedence. That is only rational and logical.

[AutoliteParticipant]

anonymousyam wrote:

The bible is bulls~~~ as well.

I was hoping that the thread doesn’t get bogged down too much in a theology debate if we can help that. It never goes well.

Maybe we should try and stick to discussing the Sleep Paralysis thing. The OP talked about having sex with demons. That ‘phenomenon’ is related directly with what we know about SP…

[TicParticipant 4329]

Autolite wrote:

tic wrote:

I believe demons exist and I also believe in guardian angels. I have to…luck alone cannot explain my life experiences.

Well, they’ve written volumes on how and why people cling to such misconceptions, but I really don’t want to get into that type of discussion here. It’s a ‘bin-there-done-that’ kinda deal for me.

But what about this Sleep Paralysis issue? Did you check out any of the YouTube videos on it?

I am quite familiar with what goes on during a SP episode and I am claiming that it has nothing to do at all with devils or demons.

What do you think? Do you believe that these people who experience SP are really being attacked by evil spirits?

I would think that if these entities were in fact real, a Sleep Paralysis type ‘attack’ would be pretty much a text-book example of how a demon encounter would happen.

I mean I’ve actually ‘seen’ the Old Hag twice! I was partially awake with both eyes wide open. I’m not sure that I’ve heard of a supernatural or a paranormal encounter more vivid than that…

That’s not what i’m referring to. Sleep paralysis phenomenon exists and that’s not what I was talking about. In fact, I said nothing about “sleep” encounters. I simply agreed with Pete’s ascertion that demons exists and I believe in it. I’m not religious at all, either. But every single culture has talked about demons and I don’t think it’s an accident or some misconceived notion. This is coming from a guy who trained in the “sciences” and was previously sort of an athetist. Im no longer an atheist. But, who knows. And no argument from either side is going to mean anything to me. My personal experiences is what’s important to me. Fact is, no one with 100% certainty can prove or disprove any of this stuff. If you tell me that, I won’t even respect you…Jus telling it as I see it, coming from a man of “science”

by the way, some argue demons are interdimensional beings, possibly alien lifeforms. I have no idea, but, it’s an interesting thought.

God bless peace and freedom.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Tic wrote:

That’s not what i’m referring to. Sleep paralysis phenomenon exists and that’s not what I was talking about. In fact, I said nothing about “sleep” encounters. I simply agreed with Pete’s ascertion that demons exists and I believe in it.

Well, we have people who have had a SP episode who really think that they had an encounter with a demon. From my own personal experiences, I can understand why they would think that.

Are you saying that these demon encounters were real or are you saying that we just don’t know either way?

Understand also that you are in fact partially awake during these “sleep” encounters as you call them. The brain is half asleep and half awake. Like when Windows hangs-up (f~~~ing Microsoft) when you try to boot up. The brain is neither fully awake nor fully asleep. You’re sorta stuck in a kinda limbo between being awake and being asleep. The psychologist guy in the “Entities” video explains this properly.

That’s why these episodes are so unsettling. The person knows that they are not dreaming and can actually ‘see’ the apparition as well as everything else in the room all around them.

When you’re dreaming or having a nightmare, you don’t (usually) know you’re dreaming until you wake up. An SP episode works different. During the episode itself, the person, or the brain, is partially awake and aware of it. When you are fully awake, you know that what you experienced wasn’t a dream or a nightmare. This is why some people who’ve experienced an SP episode will really think that they’ve encountered a demon…

[AutoliteParticipant]

Tic wrote:

But every single culture has talked about demons and I don’t think it’s an accident or some misconceived notion.

And when you dig a little deeper, I think you’ll find that many of these accounts of ‘demons’ are actually rooted in the Sleep Paralysis phenomenon.

Many of these various cultures have very many different names for the their specific demons yet SP is a common phenomenon throughout all of these various cultures.

Belief in demons and devils is very closely linked to Sleep Paralysis. I really think that you’d find it quite interesting if you were to look at SP a little closer…

The night hag is a generic name for a fantastical creature from the folklore of various peoples which is used to explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. A common description is that a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on his/her chest.[35] Various cultures have various names for this phenomenon and/or supernatural character. For example, sleep paralysis is referred to as a Pandafeche attack in Italy.[8] Among Italians the Pandafeche may refer to an evil witch, sometimes a ghost-like-spirit or a terrifying cat-like creature.[8] Sleep paralysis among Cambodians is known as, “the ghost pushes you down,”[12] and entails the belief in dangerous visitations from deceased relatives.[12] In Egypt, sleep paralysis is conceptualized as a terrifying Jinn attack. The Jinn (i.e., evil genies) may terrorize and even kill its victims.[11] Sleep paralysis is sometimes interpreted as space alien abduction in the United States.[36]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

From my own experiences and from what I’ve read and learned about Sleep Paralysis, I am convinced that SP is probably the most likely or primary reason for man’s belief in demons and devils…

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Autolite wrote:

I was hoping that the thread doesn’t get bogged down too much in a theology debate if we can help that. It never goes well.

If you start s~~~ about demons then be prepared to prove your position with evidence then.

This is mgtow central not mgtow conspiracy or mgtow supernatural if you make a claim be prepared to back it up.

Autolite wrote:

Maybe we should try and stick to discussing the Sleep Paralysis thing. The OP talked about having sex with demons. That ‘phenomenon’ is related directly with what we know about SP…

Yes i have had it but there really is no evidence to link my experience to demons rather the dark recesses of my brain and the state my body was in.

The thing that caused the illusions i have had is the creation of my own mind and not mythical forces and whenever a so called demon figure were to appear it was something that i already had pictured in my brain (not like a demon from hell that you have not seen before) but rather an illusion of a real object in my reality in special form.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[AutoliteParticipant]

anonymousyam wrote:

If you start s~~~ about demons then be prepared to prove your position with evidence then.

Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. I don’t believe in demons, devils, gods, ghosts, evil spirits or Leprechauns (okay maybe I do believe in Leprechauns, but let’s keep that to ourselves, okay?)

The OP started a thread about demon sex (the succubus myth). The succubus is just part of the Sleep Paralysis phenomenon. Having had several SP episodes in my life, it’s a topic that fascinates me.

However, I’ve never once thought of a SP episode as a supernatural or paranormal encounter. Many people feel that these SP episodes are actually attacks by demons, devils or goblins. I call bulls~~~ on that. Letting people think that they’re being stalked or targeted by demons is just wrong! It only generates unjustified and unnecessary anxiety and irrational fear. The whole SP episode is generated entirely in the individual’s own mind. I’m hoping that those who have had experienced a SP understand this. I actually suspect that there are others here on this forum who have had such an experience but for whatever reason, they are unwilling to discuss it. It’s really not all that rare.

In any case, here’s another SP YouTube video. It’s a little overly dramatic, but it describes the SP episode itself fairly accurately (IMO). One doctor even suggests that the Sleep Paralysis phenomenon could be the root reason for all ‘beliefs’…

[AutoliteParticipant]

anonymousyam wrote:

Yes i have had it but there really is no evidence to link my experience to demons rather the dark recesses of my brain and the state my body was in.

The thing that caused the illusions i have had is the creation of my own mind and not mythical forces and whenever a so called demon figure were to appear it was something that i already had pictured in my brain (not like a demon from hell that you have not seen before) but rather an illusion of a real object in my reality in special form.

I think we’re on the same page here my friend…

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