Religion is for sheep

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

How many times are we separated in the name of some religion or god(s). We spend our lives living for some other thing, never taking the moment to enjoy life as it is in the present. Are all religions fake, I don’t care, that is not the point. My point is, why sacrifice the very life you are given for the belief that it is. That is a rather “in your face” to the creator, if it is true.

The latest trend for religion in the U.S. (the past 15+years) is to judge men with and by it. Even Atheist chicks do it, to see how obedient a man will be. They pick and choose what parts of a religion that will get their desires met, and hold the men to it.

My personal belief is that religion is the doctrine of fear that a government utilizes to control the masses. The better they feed into any religion, which one doesn’t matter, the better they can control the followers as sheep. Unknown to the follower, they are being led by wolves. Women are doing what they know how to do best, just parasites nibbling off the scraps, as the beast controls the world.

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Removed wrote:

The latest trend for religion in the U.S. (the past 15+years) is to judge men with and by it. Even Atheist chicks do it, to see how obedient a man will be.

I wonder how many BP mangina Trad Cucks do the same with their wives?
I bet even the preachers omit the ‘obey your husband’
lines in church.
Nothing more than another social occasion for those broads.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

I am a Buddhist myself, however Buddhism has taught me, through my own meditation, to let go of Buddhism itself. It may seem contradictory, but it makes complete sense.

ALL modern religions have become too distorted, including Buddhism, like a game of Chinese whispers. The original message, which I can see to be shared across all religions, was distorted over time. Some many people got too excited that they jumped in and re-wrote scripture with their own 2c.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[DiogenesParticipant 373]

Religion is a good thing. It is the means by which a man connects with and worships his Creator. From that flows all of the strength of his virtues.

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

[Anonymous 42]

Religion is for sheep, faith is for MEN!

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Diogenes wrote:

Religion is a good thing. It is the means by which a man connects with and worships his Creator. From that flows all of the strength of his virtues.

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

What the hell did I just read? This is ridiculous. By no means is this some gauge to measure someone, unless you just want to pat yourself on the back for being some kind of religious follower. I am not a fool, nor do I hate myself. I am just not a pansy to follow what someone else tells me to. Either way, I really do not care, just wanted to put my 2c forward.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Anonymous wrote:

Religion is for sheep, faith is for MEN!

This I appreciate. I have my faith, and I believe in it, but I will never turn it into some doctrine that tells me to do things stupid or by the order of some other man, because it helps his little feelings. Religion is the organization-ing of someone’s faith, as to control it.

[Anonymous 42]

Diogenes wrote:

Religion is a good thing. It is the means by which a man connects with and worships his Creator. From that flows all of the strength of his virtues.

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

[DiogenesParticipant 373]

Tower, I can agree with your faith comment as far as faith goes but not religion.

But the second post. What? You’re giving me the fish eye? LOL

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MGTOW_Mike wrote:

I am a Buddhist myself, however Buddhism has taught me, through my own meditation, to let go of Buddhism itself. It may seem contradictory, but it makes complete sense.

I belong to the ‘Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster’ myself. However, the FSM has taught me, through my own meditation, an appreciation for beer and pasta. There isn’t even anything contradictory about that…

[DiogenesParticipant 373]

Removed wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Religion is a good thing. It is the means by which a man connects with and worships his Creator. From that flows all of the strength of his virtues.

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

What the hell did I just read? This is ridiculous. By no means is this some gauge to measure someone, unless you just want to pat yourself on the back for being some kind of religious follower. I am not a fool, nor do I hate myself. I am just not a pansy to follow what someone else tells me to. Either way, I really do not care, just wanted to put my 2c forward.

It appears you read something that you did not understand. I’m not interested in arguing the point because it would be – pointless. Go your own way in peace.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Diogenes wrote:

Uly wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Religion is a good thing. It is the means by which a man connects with and worships his Creator. From that flows all of the strength of his virtues.

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

What the hell did I just read? This is ridiculous. By no means is this some gauge to measure someone, unless you just want to pat yourself on the back for being some kind of religious follower. I am not a fool, nor do I hate myself. I am just not a pansy to follow what someone else tells me to. Either way, I really do not care, just wanted to put my 2c forward.

It appears you read something that you did not understand. I’m not interested in arguing the point because it would be – pointless. Go your own way in peace.

No need to dismiss me as a squabbling child. You made a statement, and it was quite direct and very much to a point. I step on that point and say it is just more rhetoric. There is no need to walk away if you have more to say about it, unless that is all you can say, and you just collapse on your quote that you heard from someone else, or read in some religious article, as to make followers feel affirmation in their decisions.

[Anonymous 42]

Diogenes wrote:

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

Religion?
Where people get their hands, feet, and heads chopped off?

Religion?
Where boys are raped and the rapist is cloaked in conspiracy as he’s shuffled away to a new house of worship for more sex with little boys?

Religion?
Where we gather around and drink arsenic laced Kool-aid, or board motor homes through self sacrifice that are following asteroids?

[Anonymous 12]

I’m probably talking more about spirituality here but the idea of just letting go sometimes and trusting that everything will be ok isn’t such a bad idea. Maybe that is another way of saying “Faith”. I don’t know. But it is interesting that the 12 Steps program is kind of built around that. I can see how relaxing and just trusting in Good Orderly Direction would be a way to reduce stress and worry and therefore also assist in not requiring substances and alcohol to get through hard times.

Anyway the point is I think a lot of people take religion too literally at times. And many Atheists behave as if it were a religion anyway.

[DiogenesParticipant 373]

Removed wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Uly wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Religion is a good thing. It is the means by which a man connects with and worships his Creator. From that flows all of the strength of his virtues.

A man who hates religion is a fool who hates himself. A man who is indifferent to religion is a man adrift. A man who loves religion and practices it is true to his masculine nature and blossoms as a man.

What the hell did I just read? This is ridiculous. By no means is this some gauge to measure someone, unless you just want to pat yourself on the back for being some kind of religious follower. I am not a fool, nor do I hate myself. I am just not a pansy to follow what someone else tells me to. Either way, I really do not care, just wanted to put my 2c forward.

It appears you read something that you did not understand. I’m not interested in arguing the point because it would be – pointless. Go your own way in peace.

No need to dismiss me as a squabbling child. You made a statement, and it was quite direct and very much to a point. I step on that point and say it is just more rhetoric. There is no need to walk away if you have more to say about it, unless that is all you can say, and you just collapse on your quote that you heard from someone else, or read in some religious article, as to make followers feel affirmation in their decisions.

As I said, I am not interested in arguing the point. It is always pointless to do so with a man who has already made up his mind.

But I do take issue with your idea that I got that quote from somewhere else and am hiding behind it. If you want to have a true contest in original thought, buddy, I AM your huckleberry, you pussy.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m probably talking more about spirituality here but the idea of just letting go sometimes and trusting that everything will be ok isn’t such a bad idea. Maybe that is another way of saying “Faith”. I don’t know. But it is interesting that the 12 Steps program is kind of built around that. I can see how relaxing and just trusting in Good Orderly Direction would be a way to reduce stress and worry and therefore also assist in not requiring substances and alcohol to get through hard times.

Anyway the point is I think a lot of people take religion too literally at times. And many Atheists behave as if it were a religion anyway.

This is much where I stand. Faith is needed at some point in your life. Faith that your alarm clock will go off in the morning, faith that your toaster will not burn your toast, faith that the hot water heater will give you water that is comfortable for a shower…

The faith in the idea that there is more to just us fleshlings on this earth, believing in extraterrestrial life, or even celestial life is also a big part of our world, more so today than before, as we prepare to further our knowledge in the vastness above us.

However, it is those that take our faiths and perverse them into a doctrine that is then influenced by selfish desires that ruins them. Faith in itself is pure and good. It is religion that destroys and diminishes faith and the person who has it.

[wyrParticipant 591]

The main issue I have is the indoctrination of children. Religion, politics, or any other ideology taught to a child, that doesn’t have the mental capacity to challenge it, seems like abuse to me.

Expose these ideas to people over the age of 25 and I don’t see a problem with it.

Self-improvement is my religion. Sovereignty is my god.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Diogenes,

As I stated, it is just a quote, because I have heard it before. It was a debate with a pastor of a Baptist church in North Carolina, who stated it to me, then added, “However, even God hates false religions.” He also used part of that in a sermon on a radio show on WLFJ, though I forget the frequency. Either way, you throwing around a few words here and there does not make a quote yours. If all you can do is divert an argument or debate into calling me a Pussy, and then quoting something else again, then I guess you are a one trick pony, and you really do not have much to stand on other than other people’s words.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

wyr wrote:

The main issue I have is the indoctrination of children. Religion, politics, or any other ideology taught to a child, that doesn’t have the mental capacity to challenge it, seems like abuse to me.

Expose these ideas to people over the age of 25 and I don’t see a problem with it.

This is very much a part of my point. The power over education utilizes it to further its power and influence, and we end up with fanatics who will fight to the bitter end in something that cannot even really understand. School should be purely facts and nothing else. There should be no religion of any sort in school. Conversely, I am for the Pledge, but when asked of which god we are under, tell them to ask their parents, as it is not the State or Government’s place to decide. In likeness, all tax deductions and nullification by church and religion should be removed.

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wyr wrote:

The main issue I have is the indoctrination of children. Religion, politics, or any other ideology taught to a child, that doesn’t have the mental capacity to challenge it, seems like abuse to me.

Have you seen the “Jesus Camp” documentary?

wyr wrote:

Expose these ideas to people over the age of 25 and I don’t see a problem with it.

Rather pointless at that age. Most wouldn’t buy it. Religion is accepted because people are indoctrinated as children…

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