QUESTION: Bachelorhood, MGTOW and Loneliness

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

I am working on a new article and asking for members help. Please understand that your feedback may be used in this article. I will post the DRAFT of the story here before going into final editing.
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Bachelorhood, MGTOW and Loneliness
The idea of living alone frightens most people and MGTOW is often criticized for being a life of loneliness, but these are stereotypes. Bachelor’s in modern society often have the most active and wholesome romantic relationships available.

Ideas a feedback?

[Anonymous 11]

Long term bachelor here. I just refused a female friend’s offer of trying to set me up with some of her friends. I told her I am set in my ways and do not have the time to spare for relationships both of which are true. I neglected to tell her, due to my couth, that I don’t do whales which are pretty much the only women that need to be setup. I also told her I don’t do relationships anymore.

I’m extroverted so I do need my people time. I have a very wide network of friends almost too many really so I’m hardly ever lonely. I have a lot of hobbies and since I live alone there is always work to be done on the house and vehicles. Nothing can be delegated.

I’m so busy running my business and handling the domestic side that I relish what little alone time I actually get.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Long term bachelor here

Thank you!

[Anonymous 54]

Ive been single for a long time.I enjoy solitude.I never feel lonely.I also like being around guys at work or with my bike club,but without solitude i loose my mind.Plus i have critters around so im never acualy alone.

[Anonymous 6]

Shaming tactic used to subdue us into a lifestyle other than what we want. All over the media we see men’s issues being tossed aside and not talked about. Well MGTOW is that place. You can be alone and not be lonely. There is always something to get into especially when you live an active lifestyle. Me personally, I am a volunteer firefighter, so i’m always at the fire dept. Go to the gym and get your workout in, participate in the local political meetings. Become a mentor for the Boys/Girls Club, volunteer at a homeless shelter to help people in need. Loneliness should not be a factor in any of this. Go camping, go hunting, go fishing. Put some aftermarket parts on your ride and take it to a car show and meet other people who are doing the same.Or you may find solitude in reading a good book, or watching a good movie, or binge watch an entire series if you want, it’s up to you.

As far as relationships go, i say keep them short and keep them moving if you must. Mgtow we are alone because we like the peace and tranquility that comes with that. Our wallets are full because of it, our mind is at ease because of it, our businesses are doing well because of it.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Ive been single for a long time.I enjoy solitude.

As far as relationships go, i say keep them short and keep them moving if you must.

Thank you for these!!!!!!

[Anonymous 42]

Tim Patten wrote:

Bachelor’s in modern society often have the most active and wholesome romantic relationships available.

If I were allowed to keep every fish I could pull from the sea my life would stink of fish, and I’d be slipping and falling on fish all the time, that’s what I’ve come to discover weather it’s one fish or many.

Spinning on the c~~~ carousel as my society dictates, with each rider hopping from one to another on both the c~~~ carousel and it’s twin the marry’go’round, was never how childhood heart of hearts imagined it would be.

With the advancement of feminism the goal post was moved back from the line of reality. With each progressive increment it further distorted reality. As of lately feminism has moved the goal post of reality on the wrong side of the stadium, far beyond the end-zone, and completely off the field. I only play fair between the goalposts of reality. I’m not to be mugged by these legal bullies into playing their brand of cheat, completely off the field.
Narcissistic personality disorder is prevalent throughout this society, it’s no place a “relationship” can survive.

I turned on my headlights of logic long ago. I’ve been driving through the illuminated landscape of a desolate and barren wasteland, the landscape of feminism and the sexual revolution. Every once in a while some wreckage protrudes into the roadway, but I have my headlights on and simply steer out of the way.

It’s not loneliness once you realize where you are, it’s a matter of soul/sole survival…

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

It’s not loneliness once you realize where you are, it’s a matter of soul/sole survival…

Nice quote…. you’re a poet

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

There is a difference between being “alone” and being “lonely”.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Jackinov wrote:

There is a difference between being “alone” and being “lonely”.

I was just about to say that, Jackinov. Well put and this is exactly the misconception that hardcore feminists make to throw both of these two separate things together into one negative pot same as they do with ignorance of women and hatred towards women, which again are two separate things but they simply for the sake of it can’t distinguish between the two or ever even would make any effort to do so.

In essence most of us here are lone wolves (albeit not automatically lonely wolves!) who ignore women (and not automatically hate women) and what is mostly being taught here is how to be able to make bachelorhood and mgtow lifestyle a voluntary decision but without voluntarily accepting loneliness as a direct imperative result of it, just because our current environment or general gynocentric society sais we should, because alleged “male privilege” or our obligations towards the system or towards women’s real agenda or towards whatever else have you.

Anyway, yeah go for it writing the article, Tim.

So within that article you might want to question societal obligations altogether or at least pose the question: Just because an obligation is solely supposed to be for the generally accepted greater good of humanity, who has the exclusive right to put it out there to be the ultimate imperative norm, that everybody else just has to follow (sheeple-like)…? And what would personal freedom of one’s own decisions (which especially women love so much to have) be worth then..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[BrujahParticipant 579]

I often hear people talk about being afraid of “dying alone” more than anything when discussing loneliness like it’s somehow mutually exclusive and that the only way to not get in that scenario is settle down. There are so many ways to scratch the social itch if you put yourself out there and expand your network.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Tim Patten: Contact Keymaster and ask him to send you pages 17-20 in the file Mark of Cain 2 that I have sent him recently. It is a chapter on loneliness that you might find interesting. If Keymaster no longer has it, email me and I will send it to you.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

I often hear people talk about being afraid of “dying alone” more than anything when discussing loneliness like it’s somehow mutually exclusive and that the only way to not get in that scenario is settle down.

The error in this argument is that women generally outlive men in marriage, so who is the one that “dies alone?”

[Anonymous 3]

There is some loneliness at times, but the problem is there are so few people that actually improve a person’s life that you’d want to be around anyway. Perhaps it’s that I’m just introverted. But I prefer solitude to being annoyed by someone, and especially a group of annoyances.

I think most people as they get older sort of close off their groups anyway. MGTOW just might close them off a bit more than others.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6408]

Is it worth putting up with all the negatives associated with a relationship just to enjoy the companionship of a female?
As I type this I am totally alone. I will be alone today and alone tomorrow. Am I lonely?
I’m no more lonely than some guy sitting in his suburban house who’s wife or girlfriend has just slammed the door and stomped out in an unhappy rage. I’m no more lonely than a guy who senses that things aren’t going right with his companion and sees them unravelling.
It’s all about the process being alone or being in a relationship and eventually being alone as things inevitably fall apart.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Going from being lonely to being in a relationship is going from the frying pan into the fire.

Go ahead tuffguy jump in the fire.Just dont come crying to me later on.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[DDJParticipant 1880]

It’s my view that the idea of bachelor loneliness is gynocentric. It’s an inflammatory shaming tactic used to bring awakened men back to the plantation.

Women cannot stand being alone. They don’t appreciate the value of solitude. They don’t understand that solitude isn’t loneliness. Even most MGTOW aren’t completely solitary. They have friends, coworkers, and family who provide them emotional support. They just avoid hypergamous AWALT traps.

Further, most MGTOW don’t completely unplug from society…they just reject gynocentric portions of it. The best parts of society were invented and are maintained by men.

When women get married, they make lifelong vows to their husband. Yet, over 70% of them walk away from those oaths and initiate divorce. As the ex-husband of one of the army of oath-breaker wives, I admit I grieved. Then, after a grieving period…I realized it wasn’t my wife I missed.

I missed the wife she vowed she’d be to be prior to marriage. I didn’t miss who she actually was. Her lack of ethics and commitment disgusted me. In reality, I was ashamed for allowing my unconditional love to be used and manipulated by her near-constant psychopathic narcissism.

Grieving being victimized by an oath-breaker wife or dishonest girlfriend should never be confused with loneliness.

We all feel lonely sometimes. This is normal. However, many of men’s greatest achievements were invented or discovered in solitude or when alone. Solitude should be lauded, not shamed.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

I was going to quote Tower because I think it does such a good job of defining how we got to this point among other things , but CP , homeschoold , and Ned Trent all made brilliant , insightful posts. I’m so glad to be among such a group , it has been therapy to me. I am too busy at this point to be lonely , or better put , to FEEL lonely. I don’t have time for that feeling , and that is what it is , a feeling. Women are much better at feelings and probably focus on them far more than we do , so that is their problem not ours. As for dying alone , WE ALL DIE ALONE , get used to it because you won’t be any different. On the seldom chance I ever get bored there is a gym down the street I lift weights and run every morning at , where a lot of people know me and I can just go step onto the basketball court and school some young guys if I feel like it. Right now I’m studying for my Masters in the wines of Burgundy , and working six days a week…someone else can FEEL lonely. Hopefully all my ex’s.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Etrangere wrote:

As for dying alone , WE ALL DIE ALONE

Yep even Charlie Brooker said it once in this episode very close to the beginning (within the first 40 seconds but do feel free to watch the whole lot if you got the time to…):

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

I missed the wife she vowed she’d be to be prior to marriage. I didn’t miss who she actually was. Her lack of ethics and commitment disgusted me. In reality, I was ashamed for allowing my unconditional love to be used and manipulated by her near-constant psychopathic narcissism.

F~~~ing THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for me too. My ex had a Masters in Psychology and always tried to convince me that I was the one who needed help , I was the narcissist , I was the one who was selfish. The reality is that I gave and gave , and she took and took , and I left with those same feelings of shame for having given my big ass heart to another woman who didn’t deserve it… it just hurt worse because I thought she was a special snowflake….sorry for the derail

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