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Interesting. I wouldn’t mind knowing the number of real members. Funny thing is, I don’t even consider 259 to be small. Sure, it’s nothing compared to 25,898, but to think there are 259 people out there who see through the gynocentric lies of society is impressive enough. Besides, the real membership is definitely growing. Since I became a member, I’ve seen lots of people join who have become regular posters and participants.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
I know that you mean well and kudos for that, but it does sound a bit over the top, think about all the lurkers who are a bit conflicted of whether they should join or not, you can’t make it any more difficult for them, for instance, it has taken over 2 weeks till I got my permit to write here and we are all obligated to write an introduction.
Overall, I think the current policy is good enough, you don’t want to chase new guys away, also as everyone said here – not only members can read the posts, so it makes little difference if someone is dick/bitch enough to join and then write some s~~~ about the guys here, we’re just punting them and goodbye.
Interesting. I wouldn’t mind knowing the number of real members.
Neither would I. Fortunately, Greg is working on that every question.
I don’t consider 259 to be small either and the membership here is growing.
I just find it odd that we pat ourselves on the back about the 25,000 number when we know it’s baloney.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I don’t consider 259 to be small either and the membership here is growing.
I just find it odd that we pat ourselves on the back about the 25,000 number when we know it’s baloney.
I fully agree.
Anonymous8I don’t think that trolls joining are the problem so much as trolls lurking are.
It’s my understanding that Peter Pan accumulated more than 500 stars in one night, I did not witness it but I trust those who did.
As for solving that problem, I don’t have enough information and I don’t have the keys. So I won’t speak on it.
PROBLEM . THERE seems to be a problem when tapping the like star . I just gave macho 2 points with the like star .
I’ve had the same thing happen @blade , don’t hold me to it but I believe it happens when a page is not refreshed and other menbers +1 a post. Once I hit it and it went up by 4, because I had the tab open for a long time.
Good. Thank you CantStumpTrump. A little back story for your interest . .
Thanks for sharing that @keymaster, I tried finding your intro once but was unable to locate it.
Thanks everyone.
Truth be told however, twenty-five thousand members doesn’t amount to s~~~ when 99% of that number never participates.
We get 400-600 registered members logging in per day. And 8000-10000 visitors, lurkers AND members combined etc. We have nowhere near that many topics created per day. So they log in to just reply or see the latest stuff – live.
Let me ask you this. Because you can read everything here without joining, why join only to then never post?
As to why join but never post…
There is a very good technical answer for this too on top of what Brain Pilot offered.
We serve up “cached memory pages” — for speed. That means every time a non-member visits a page, a “static” version of that page is served and created, stored in memory. The next visitor to that page sees it in a fraction of a second without hammering the database.
These pages are erased and cleared every 60 to 90 minutes.
Only logged in members see the very freshest posts and content.
Everyone else is delayed 1-90 minutes.So technically, you can post and log out, and your post may not show up for 1-90 minutes. . . . until all memory pages are cleared and the page is revisited. Then it is recreated with the latest posts.
Logged in member see all the latest. It’s a fraction slower because it’s demanding on the database, but it’s fresh. Static pages prevent the database from being hammered too much too fast.
That’s the main benefit of logging in even if you don’t participate.
Thanks for sharing that @keymaster, I tried finding your intro once but was unable to locate it.
I have never made a formal “intro”. There will come a day when I do. A couple of “interview” style youtube videos are available which talk about how we came to exist here, but my personal story can wait. This place is more about you all than it is about me. You’re the drivers. I sit in the back.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I just find it odd that we pat ourselves on the back about the 25,000 number when we know it’s baloney.
We should hit 26K today, I believe!
The number is real and actually accounts for deletions as well. This is how many “active” member accounts we have. No, they don’t always log in, and some not for a long time, but they are active and verified emails. About 2 in 40-50 (per day) don’t verify right away, but most of the time they do.
If I had to throw a dart and guess, I would say 5% of members have never done nothing with their accounts except log in. Conversely, the most active percent is also about 8%.
It’s a very niche website, so conversion is very high. If they join, they are interested – one way or another.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.We should hit 26K today, I believe!
The number is real and actually accounts for deletions as well. This is how many “active” member accounts we have. No, they don’t always log in, and some not for a long time, but they are active and verified emails. About 2 in 40-50 (per day) don’t verify right away, but most of the time they do.
If I had to throw a dart and guess, I would say 5% of members have never done nothing with their accounts except log in. Conversely, the most active percent is also about 8%.
It’s a very niche website, so conversion is very high. If they join, they are interested – one way or anotherThis is Awesome news KM Cheers to that 👍 😁
You must own a better Crystal ball than I
Anonymous8I have never made a formal “intro”. There will come a day when I do. A couple of “interview” style youtube videos are available which talk about how we came to exist here, but my personal story can wait. This place is more about you all than it is about me. You’re the drivers. I sit in the back.
Cool, thanks for clearing that up. Look forward to reading it when you do, I hope you commission Bill Murray to narrate it too! No offense to you, it’s just that when I started reading your posts you were still rocking the Ghostbusters avatar and I always read your posts in Bill Murray’s voice, using his cadence, I think it fits remarkably well.
On a side note, it is difficult to locate other senior member’s Intro’s as well. I would appreciate it if there were a more prominent location such as on the profile page to find a link to them.
This is how many “active” member accounts we have.
If you never post, you’re not “active” no matter how often you log in to lurk.
As for all the accounts having verified emails, that means nothing because creating an account requires a verified email. You might as well claim all the accounts are “real” because they have user names and passwords.
It’s only what you do after you make your account that matters.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I really feel strongly and agree with you OldBill that we shouldn’t put up any barriers to participation.
But I’m not sure that policing membership will decrease the prevalence of tuna.
Like you have said before it is a pain to drop this site but easy to join (for you, I’m tech challenged).
But why not let people join and feel like part of a community and there is the added benefit of having a list of those interested enough in MGTOW.com to join. If we ever wanted to reach the members we could do that. Putting up barriers makes it more difficult to reach those interested in MGTOW.com.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I really feel strongly and agree with you OldBill that we shouldn’t put up any barriers to participation.
I very much agree with that.
But I’m not sure that policing membership will decrease the prevalence of tuna.
I’m not suggesting we police the membership. I’m suggesting we sweep away accounts which have either never posted or haven’t posted for long periods.
Don’t forget, Peter Pan got those 500 up-votes from somewhere and it sure as hell wasn’t from the truly active membership. It’s my considered opinion that a large number of non-posting accounts belong to people and organizations monitoring this site and the members for a variety reasons, people and organizations who may be tempted to lob a monkey wrench into the machinery ever now and again. We shouldn’t make that easy for them.
Keymaster wants to believe that logging in and then only lurking somehow qualifies an account as “active” and it’s holder as a “member”. I don’t think we can afford that level of naivete anymore. Peter Pan was just the first. There will be many others and the lurking accounts are the sea in which they already swim.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Aside from the decision on what might be done with inactive accounts, and not to change the subject, but I wonder about another indicator of the site’s success other than the total number of memberships that have been formed. Aside from that number, there is the number of trolls that have attempted and failed to wreck the site and take it out of existence. I know that there is a litter box, and a way to keep track of an individual’s history of recognizing and punting trolls. But there is no prominently displayed number of total failed attacks and trolling attempts for the site as a whole, and I’d like to make the argument that perhaps there should be…
At the American military base in Pearl Harbor, there is a building (mess hall?) whose concrete face is pockmarked with the impacts of machine gun bullets fired from Japanese planes during the attack on 12/7/1941. According to what I read, the craters in the face are about the size of a man’s fist, arranged in a line, but don’t penetrate all the way through. They’ve been painted over many times, but never filled in or otherwise repaired. When asked the reason for this, an American military officer pointed out that the building, like the military and the country it defended are all still here. But the pilot, the plane, the ship and the empire that delivered the bullets are all destroyed. The bullet craters are part of the history that the next would be attacker can see as his own future. They are all that’s left of the last attacker…
On the top of Mount Olympus in Athens, there is a temple about 3500 years old. In the top row of marble above the columns that support it, there are a series of holes, also about the size of a man’s fist that have been pounded in to the outward face of the marble about every 10 feet. As explained by a Greek history professor standing at the foot of that temple with me: when the temple was about 1000 years old, about 500 BC (?), the Persians over-ran and took over Greece. Alexander the Great, who was out somewhere with his army, heard about this maybe a month or two later. He promptly marched his army back to Athens, surrounded the city and attacked. He killed every Persian he found. No prisoners. No quarter. Then he climbed to the top of this 1000 year old temple and hammered spikes into the face of it. He then gathered up all the shields of all the dead Persians and hung them from the spikes he’d hammered into the Temple. This served as an offering to the Gods and (because they were visible for miles in every direction) a notice to everyone who was back in charge. 2500 years later, those holes are still there.
Prince Vlad (The Impaler) had a similar strategy. He used 10-15 foot long spikes made from sharpened tree trunks to impale the bodies and prisoners of attacking armies. Then he stood these spikes up (with the dead attackers on them) along the roads of approach to his territory to be used by subsequent attacking armies. There is at least one historical account of a subsequent army marching toward Vlad’s territory, surveying this scene, and turning around to head the other direction. All three of these examples were messages. All three illustrated the history of previous attackers… and the futures of subsequent ones.
Total memberships created is one way of measuring the age/success/impact of the site/message. But the number of attackers survived is another way to measure the impact it’s having. If you go through life without making any enemies, it’s probable that you haven’t accomplished much. No enemies probably means that there are no accomplishments, no messages, and no impact.
It’s very likely true that at least some of the total memberships created were by people unconcerned and unaffected by the site and its message.
But NONE of the attacks were. EVERY ONE of them was concerned, and EVERY ONE of them was affected. Every single one of those attacks was sincere (however pathetic their execution may have been).
I suggest that these are worth totaling and displaying at least as prominently as the total memberships have been…(?). There are ancient historical precedents for this.
No friend, however distant or inactive, and no enemy, however pathetic and unsuccessful, should ever go uncounted.
Just some observations, and an opinion.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
we shouldn’t put up any barriers to participation.
I agree. this is starting to sound stupid.
last year, I was in a f~~~ed up mental state. I didn’t need bunch of jerkoffs, no offense, to start questioning the validity of my situation.
I think a long intro as a requirement is a good idea. Other than that, come on, gentlemen, don’t make this more complicated than it is.
So a bunch of c~~~s will troll once in a while. Who gives a f~~~.God bless peace and freedom.
I didn’t need bunch of jerkoffs, no offense, to start questioning the validity of my situation.
No one’s questioning the validity of anyone’s situation here. There IS already a requirement to join this site, and the requirement is that you are a man. My suggestion was merely about proving the veracity of that single requirement.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
I’d recommend to leave the forums as it is now, but, to up the number of members that can make a tuna a spectator.
Of course, this ability would only be given to long term confirmed members. Like, it’s limbo for trolls, and shuts them up so they can’t litter the forums with s~~~ until the staff gets to them.
The advantage of this would be that men can still join just as easy, and trolls would get shut down immediately, due to there being a higher number of regulators.
are you a chia pet in man drag I’d recommend to leave the forums as it is now, but, to up the number of members that can make a tuna a spectator.
This is a really good idea and we’re gonna do it!
It’s going to be a custom solution whereby a couple dozen members can visit a profile and if they have permission, they will see a button to change that members status to “spectator”…. and it will send a TXT to an admin.
Probably best as a combined group. Like 3 or more “red buzzers” and posting privileges paused.
Excellent idea @jackinov. Been thinking about it for a while actually.
Thank you.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@Brain Pilot. Roger that too.
Appreciate everyone’s input here! Excellent. Have actually started “members polls” too which you’ll be seeing soon.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Old Bill,
The whole thing about this community is not whether we find these fringe members useful to ourselves, but whether they find wisdom and support here during the hardest time of their life.
I understand you wish to protect us all, but rejecting members who do not post as often as you would like would throw out into the cold a large number of men.
Such a rejection may make an ominous difference to their thinking. Keeping these fringe members will involve risk-I acknowledge that.
But let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
What are we here for?Logging in allows you to read the unexpurgated version here, even if you don’t post.
Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.
I understand you wish to protect us all, but rejecting members who do not post as often as you would like…
Once again, I’m not talking about fringe members or those who rarely post. I’m talking about those who have never and will never post.
Logging in allows you to read the unexpurgated version here, even if you don’t post.
There is no difference whatsoever between the censored version and the unexpurgated version. Reading “c—” instead of “c~~~” or “f—” instead of “f~~~” does not change the meaning within a post.
The only real difference between reading without joining and reading as a member is the time delay between updates, a delay which can be as long as 90 minutes. If you’re not posting, that time delay is of little consequence.
Joining only provides one real advantage; after joining, you can now post. If you join and then never post, what did you actually join for?
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
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