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A good proposal. Maybe not now but at some point it may be necessary to up the “security clearance” for MGTOW.com. Always good to throw ideas like this out there. This is the only forum I’ve ever posted to on the internet and I’ve read through a few tuna threads that are funny but tiring at times. I hope there aren’t too many coming in month to month. I am not a very active member on the forums but wouldn’t have much trouble with a small entry interview (maybe when we get to 100000 members!). If people don’t like it they can do what I do most of the time, just read.
Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.
I like hearing the thought process behind the choices you made for the site.
I had to give a back story because you should know we TRIED it that way first. Now we are able to justify any restrictions with experience to back it up.
Main thing is MGTOW is taken seriously now.
It’s not the “joke” it used to be just a couple of years ago.In fact, 2 nights ago, we got a letter of appreciation from a woman who asked to join and be made a participant! She really enjoys the site and visits often. But we thanked her for her message, and explained that it’s “for men only – no exceptions”.
…. and she respected it, and sent a message of thanks back to us for not ignoring her and throwing her email in the trash.
This would have been unheard of 2 short years ago.
A good proposal. Maybe not now but at some point it may be necessary to up the “security clearance” for MGTOW.com.
Agreed.
I’m still going to absorb everything you guys offer here and may even take Stump’s suggestion(s). At least stick them in our back pockets. So feel free.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Key,
Was that letter genuine or a suck up to get in here?
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My only suggestion is that we need a faster response after contacting the Keymaster regarding trolls, tunas and/or abusive members. I understand he responds as fast as he can but sometimes it takes too long and plenty of damage is already done by then.
Key,
Was that letter genuine or a suck up to get in here?
No actually, she said “I’m a woman don’t roll your eyes”….. and basically disqualified herself not even expecting a reply. She got a reply because she respected the boundary, but she didn’t really need to.
She could have been disruptive . . . but even if she joined, she won’t be a participant right away.
And the feminists? They are nowhere to be seen these days. I was talking with “Misandry Today”, and he agreed, they all slithered back to the feminist prisons of their own minds.
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My only suggestion is that we need a faster response after contacting the Keymaster regarding trolls,
They don’t do any “damage” to anyone but themselves. And if they do, it just goes in the litter box anyway as an example of what NOT to do.
Last couple of weeks have been crazy with other deadlines and have been away from desk, on “vacation” (although not too far away), long weekend, under deadlines etc.
This isn’t our full time gig. Yet.
If you want to make sure they don’t do damage, don’t respond at all. It’s actually more effective than calling them out – or trying to. Give them the back of your hand.
Look at their post, topic, visit their profile, and if you’re not sure, don’t answer them. A topic should be compelling enough to make you WANT to reply anyway .
The genie will be going back to alerting admin by TEXT – instead of email which is what it is right now.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.How about new members having a 1 minute chat with KM or a senior member over Skype before being allowed to post? I wouldn’t expect anyone to share his phone number (I wouldn’t), but I’m pretty sure a Skype account is safe from doxing.
I’d say no and for several reasons. One of those reasons, and perhaps the biggest one, is I don’t want to add to the workload Keymaster and the other mods already face.
Instead of front loading requirements to join, requirements which would be onerous for both a prospective member and the site’s administrators, I’d rather see the site routinely sweep away those who do not participate.
Yes, I know such sweeps will invariably catch those members who, while they are sincere in their reasons for joining, don’t or can’t post for various reasons. I’ll point out, however, that you do not need to join in order to read what is posted here. Yes, some words are censored and, yes, there is a time delay, but you don’t need to join to read. I know this because I myself did it for a couple of years.
My concerns about the silent 99% is that they provide cover for those whose opinions and actions are inimicable to MGTOW and the members here. Mao wrote about how a population provides a protective “sea” in which terrorist “fish” can swim. The silent 99% are just that, a sea in which trolls and those watching us for other reasons can safely swim.
We need to drain that sea because, unlike Keymaster, I don’t believe the worst is behind us. Instead, I firmly believe much worse is ahead of us. We’re currently experiencing the false calm provided by the eye of the storm. MGTOW’s profile among the general population is growing daily, MGTOW is mentioned more often in the mainstream media, and MGTOW is garnering more attention both good and bad. While all of that will mean more men arriving here with an interest in MGTOW, most of the people coming to our doors will not interested in the positive meaning of that word.
As I wrote last year, trolls are the new normal and constant DDoS attacks won’t be too far behind.
It’s time to clean house and start preparing.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Being new here myself I was kinda waiting to be interrogated but it didn’t happen. I was grateful for that. But I have to admit I don’t see the harm in a little interrogation albeit out of the reach of the lurkers out to do harm.
You could open up a ‘back room’ and invite new members to be a little more open about who they are so you can try and figure out if they are a troll. Genuine people shouldn’t have an issue with that. But yes some genuine people would feel p~~~ed at having to do that. But let it be optional to enter the back room.Just my thoughts.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
I think the site is well managed as it is we don’t need lots of bulls~~~ rules etc.
People at the start of their journey will still have blue pill tendencies and can be mistaken for tuna.
Sadly people will always try to close us down like they do with the real alternative media.
WHy?
Because they can not control 7.5 billion people physically so they do it through manipulation of perception aided by the media.
You know the same media that told us there were WMD in Iraq are the same media that didn’t challenge or research the bulls~~~ official story of 9/11, 7/7 and every other incident.
Support of the anti man agenda is part of the same strategy
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Me again. I’m going to double-post here because of some of the comments I’m seeing.
Why trouble ourselves about any of this? It’s not as if anyone here is posting top secret information and that any of it might get into the wrong hands. No one here is even posting information in the usual sense of the word. We’re sharing life experiences, our personal aspiration around a common dilemma, and our individual approaches to a common challenge.
What’s more, nothing about basic MGTOW is particularly novel. Socrates was talking MGTOW in his day and great thinkers since have done the same.
Are we so frightened by alternate or outright opposing points of view that we’re willing to impose greater barriers to bona fide participation just to avoid them? Holy God, the entire world is an alternate and opposing point of view where MGTOW is concerned.
Let ’em talk. Unlike some commenters, I’m not concerned that newbies will be swayed by opposing comments they might read here. If our ideas can’t be tested against their ideas and shown to be philosophically and practical viable, then they’re simply not very good ideas in the first place. And most of us know that just is not the case. Just my opinion. Carry on.
Are we so frightened by alternate or outright opposing points of view that we’re willing to impose greater barriers to bona fide participation just to avoid them?
Once again I am not suggesting nor have I ever suggested raising any barriers whatsoever for participation.
All I’m suggesting is that we regularly sweep away any inactive and nonparticipating accounts like any other forum I’ve ever belonged to does.
The membership number here seems to be almost a fetish for some. Truth be told however, twenty-five thousand members doesn’t amount to s~~~ when 99% of that number never participates.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
A lot of members get value and join after lurking. In Britain we live in a police state with extreme surveillance powers that are used.
Many are worried about posting views , I s~~~ you not I have seen people violently arrested on the streets of Britain for quoting Churchill in public.
I lurked for a while before joining and have periods of time when active and then am not active for a while.
Oldbill – I could not disagree with you more.
The site is well managed and moderated as it is.
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The site is well managed and moderated as it is.
We’re in agreement there.
Let me ask you this. Because you can read everything here without joining, why join only to then never post?
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
As to why join but never post…
My first thought is that there might be those who are hesitant to post for their own reasons, (whatever they are) who still see some value in the number of members posted here and want to contribute to that. They may join an never post because the contribution to that number is the only contribution they feel safe in making.
No certainty here, and no disagreement with anything else that’s been posted. Just a theory that came to mind…
In life, as people navigate their lives through the world, one of the main differences between he way men and women do it is that men who are new to a topic will more often listen more than they speak until they feel confident that they know enough to speak. Perhaps this is because for a man, there are consequences for speaking about something and then finding that in doing so, he has unintentionally shown his ignorance or opened himself to attack he was not fully prepared to defend.
Women on the other hand, can pretty much say whatever the f~~~ they want no matter how ignorant and feel confident in the knowledge that the pussy pass will protect them for any consequences for having done so. The evidence of this is that many of them can’t seem to shut up long enough to learn anything. If you’ve ever tried to teach a woman anything, you’ve witnessed this for yourself.
I guess my point is that there may be some valid reasons why some join and never post, and I am hesitant to say member profiles should be necessarily be deleted just because they are inactive. An inactive profile that was set up to follow the postings of other active members, or to have posts in a particular thread sent to that member’s email might still be providing some benefit to that silent member…(?)
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
The site is well managed and moderated as it is.
We’re in agreement there.
Let me ask you this. Because you can read everything here without joining, why join only to then never post?
I have already told yo one reason why that happens in my earlier comments.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
basically what brain pilot is saying is what I said old bill.
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I have already told yo one reason why that happens in my earlier comments.
Sorry, but your pathetic Teresa May is watching excuse fails under even cursory scrutiny.
The site’s content can been read regardless of whether you’re a member or not. If the UK decides that the content here is hate speech and thus violates some statute, simply accessing the site will be cause enough for action. Accessing the site, and not membership, will be enough because you can read everything without being a member.
As for BrainPilot’s suggestion that people too afraid to post still join to increase the membership numbers as some gesture of solidarity, I won’t even begin to try to understand the “thinking” behind an asinine action like that.
No matter what excuses we dream up to explain the silent 99%, the fact still remains that you can read everything on this site without joining.
So, again, why join if you won’t participate? And, if you won’t participate, why should you be counted as a member?
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I have already told yo one reason why that happens in my earlier comments.
Sorry, but your pathetic Teresa May is watching excuse fails under even cursory scrutiny.
The site’s content can been read regardless of whether you’re a member or not. If the UK decides that the content here is hate speech and thus violates some statute, simply accessing the site will be cause enough for action. Accessing the site, and not membership, will be enough because you can read everything without being a member.
As for BrainPilot’s suggestion that people too afraid to post still join to increase the membership numbers as some gesture of solidarity, I won’t even begin to try to understand the “thinking” behind an asinine action like that.
No matter what excuses we dream up to explain the silent 99%, the fact still remains that you can read everything on this site without joining.
So, again, why join if you won’t participate? And, if you won’t participate, why should you be counted as a member?
Go and change your tampon you sound liek a tuna most of us disagree with you deelw ith it stop thrwoing round isnults liek pathetic you big mangina
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I’d rather see the site routinely sweep away those who do not participate.
Seems reasonable. I wonder what a fair time span without posting would be, however. I myself did not log in for months at a time (though I occasionally had time to read) because I was piled with work, but I wouldn’t want to get the boot just because of that (not that I’m saying you’re suggesting that).
Are we so frightened by alternate or outright opposing points of view that we’re willing to impose greater barriers to bona fide participation just to avoid them?
Don’t know where you’re getting “frightened” from. I don’t let feminists into my house, not because I’m frightened, and not because I can’t defend my viewpoints, but because I frankly don’t give a s~~~ about anything they have to say. Trolls have nothing valuable to contribute.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Go and change your tampon you sound liek a tuna most of us disagree with you deelw ith it stop thrwoing round isnults liek pathetic you big mangina
With all due respect and politeness, would you mind taking the argument somewhere else? Fighting doesn’t bother me, but I think it distracts from the main discussion.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Seems reasonable. I wonder what a fair time span without posting would be, however.
Months at a minimum, perhaps even a full year. As you note, sometimes even previously active members don’t have time to log in. For example, I went on a PacRim business trip in late ’15 through early ’16 and, IIRC, didn’t log in for 90 days or more.
I think a fair “activity” metric would two tiered. First, you need to post within a certain time of joining. Second, after that first post or posts, you need to post every so often to remain active. Fail to meet either and you’re swept out.
Being swept out doesn’t mean you can never join again, however.
Greg’s analyses showed that nearly all of the silent 99% have never posted at all. They joined and then have done nothing. Those accounts are not members in any realistic meaning of the term.
The way we’ve turned the membership numbers here into a fetish is, in my opinion, part of the problem. Everyone loves to see that counter keep clicking upward and, as I type, that counter is at 25,898. While that looks very good, it’s almost entirely fraudulent.
With a 1% participation rate, the real membership number is 259.
We’re all about the Red Pill and seeing the truth behind the facade here. If that’s so, why then won’t we admit our true membership numbers to ourselves?
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