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  • #630421
    Heraclius
    Heraclius
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    Facebook? Really? And you claim to be a man going his own way?

    I have a personal Facebook account for communication purposes. I hate recharging phones and s~~~ like that, so I just tell people to message me on FB and I’ll respond when I see it.

    Thanks for the information. I want to encourage you in your efforts. I am sure there were many ASSHOLES who degraded and discouraged Keymaster with disparaging remarks when he first started MGTOW.com. And look at the fruit that it has produced!!!

    God bless, Michael

    Thanks Michael, I appreciate it. I’ll make sure to produce quality content and then the results will speak for themselves.

    MGTOW isn’t a movement, it’s a mindset. A movement is something that happens when I go to the bathroom.

    It’s definitely a movement considering the fact that it has a recognizable banner, meeting areas, a group hierarchy and a more or less defined philosophy. You could say that it’s NOT JUST a movement, but my article was focusing on the increasing numbers of men that are attracted to it, so from a sociological perspective it makes sense to classify it in that way.

    Good article, not perfect but still very good.

    My apologies to brother Heraclius for having briefly suspected about him when he began his activity in this site.

    About NAWALT: your reasoning is perfect, it’s a combo of both.
    Women worth having a relationship are a minority: esteems varies.
    My idea is that they’re about 1-in-13, that’s between 7.5% and 8% women.
    Then add to that that if you’re going to get in a marriage contract, that’s for life, and people change through years, and that our society incentives women to divorce and take away men’s stuff when they’re bored. To be fair, with a woman like the above 7.5%-8% this isn’t very likely to happen, even if they change through time, but still it can happen even with them. But even if you’re able to identify the top 7.5%-8% women then you can NOT know if they are going to change throuh years, that’s impossible to know.

    So, it’s probably 7.5%-8% women who are worth living together at the beginning of the relationship, and also after a while.
    Being optimistic and excluding a 25% of them who are going to change through time, then the percentages are reduced to 5.6%-6%: that is about 1-in-17 women.

    Thank you Eric. I’m glad that you agree on NAWALT. To be honest, the women that I consider to be NAWALT were raised in very traditional households on farms and villages. Many of them are suprisingly loyal, they do all the housework and have regular jobs. It’s hard to even imagine that young citty-dwelling women would be so eager to please.

    #630561
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    OldBill
    OldBill
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    I have a personal Facebook account for communication purposes.

    That’s an excuse, not a reason.

    Your desire to somehow earn money “explaining” MGTOW to men when you don’t understand it yourself is would be laughable if it wasn’t sickening. Two years ago I predicted people like you would appear once MGTOW became more well known because there’s always someone trying to grind a buck. I’ve never disliked being right this much.

    MGTOW isn’t a movement. There’s no hierarchy and, while there are some general tenets, there’s no ‘defined” philosophy either. The recognizable symbol you mention doesn’t belong to anyone, unless you’re thinking about applying for a trademark so you can charge people for using it.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #630570
    FrostByte
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    Real Men Going Thier Own Way don’t have Facebook.

    Seriously?
    I have a page. I’d miss a lot of family and friends events without it.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #630573
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    Heraclius
    Heraclius
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    I have a personal Facebook account for communication purposes.

    That’s an excuse, not a reason.

    Your desire to somehow earn money “explaining” MGTOW to men when you don’t understand it yourself is would be laughable if it wasn’t sickening. Two years ago I predicted people like you would appear once MGTOW became more well known because there’s always someone trying to grind a buck. I’ve never disliked being right this much.

    MGTOW isn’t a movement. There’s no hierarchy and, while there are some general tenets, there’s no ‘defined” philosophy either. The recognizable symbol you mention doesn’t belong to anyone, unless you’re thinking about applying for a trademark so you can charge people for using it.

    You say that MGTOW is not a movement, doesn’t have a hierarchy and that it doesn’t have a defined philosophy. And yet you feel like some authority figure that has the correct interpretation, saying that MGTOW shouldn’t have a facebook account. Btw., I do not plan to write about MGTOW topics on a continual basis, it was just one article aimed at those who are not very familiar with the topic. I’ll focus more on self-development content that for a broader, mostly male audience.

    #630591
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    FrostByte
    FrostByte
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    Getting off the stupid Facebook debate and back on topic.
    Here are some things I would like to see on a men’s page.
    More on

    Minimalism
    Meditation
    Life Hacks
    Hobbies
    DIY
    Guns
    Laws that directly effect men
    Stocks, saving and financial issues
    Cigars, booxe and steaks
    Cooking

    A section a MGTOW success stories. E.G. men who have recovered from bad divorce rapes and are living better lives without woman.

    Compare, review and suggest men’s products – dollar shave club vs shave mob.

    Pure MGTOW – No dating adds and no PUA s~~~.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #630704
    Heraclius
    Heraclius
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    Getting off the stupid Facebook debate and back on topic.
    Here are some things I would like to see on a men’s page.
    More on

    Minimalism
    Meditation
    Life Hacks
    Hobbies
    DIY
    Guns
    Laws that directly effect men
    Stocks, saving and financial issues
    Cigars, booxe and steaks
    Cooking

    A section a MGTOW success stories. E.G. men who have recovered from bad divorce rapes and are living better lives without woman.

    Compare, review and suggest men’s products – dollar shave club vs shave mob.

    Pure MGTOW – No dating adds and no PUA s~~~.

    Great suggestions. I’ll definitely include:

    Minimalism
    Meditation
    Life Hacks
    Hobbies
    Cooking

    #630829

    Anonymous
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    It’s a smart choice not a movement, we aren’t trying to recruit anyone, merely give them the knowledge to make a choice, their own choice.

    #630969
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    DorkShit
    DorkShit
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    How long ago did you find out about mgtow?

    How much experience do you have with women?

    Did you go to college?

    Have you been married?

    Do you have children?

    How many women have you f~~~ed?

    Howe many men have you experienced going through divorces?

    Do you study reading s~~~ online and on your Facebook and then write about your expert opinions?

    Do you plan to go out into the real world and experience reality before expressing your opinion?

    Congratulations on creating a website where you can spew your opinions. You are going to finally fill that void. We’ve been waiting for you!

    Peace brothers

    #631126
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    OldBill
    OldBill
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    And yet you feel like some authority figure that has the correct interpretation, saying that MGTOW shouldn’t have a facebook account.

    I tell everyone to get off Facebook, MGTOWs, manginas, and feminists alike.

    As for there being a “correct” interpretations, I follow Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart’s famous quotation regarding pornography. In a case about Louis Malle’s film The Lovers, Stewart ruled against attempts to censor the work by stating that, while hard-core pornography is hard to define, he knew it when he saw it.

    I read your “article” and, while the MGTOW mindset is hard to define, I know it when I see it and your “work” is most definitely not it. As o2tosin labeled it, it’s “purple pill” at best.

    Btw., I do not plan to write about MGTOW topics on a continual basis…

    That’s good to know.

    … it was just one article aimed at those who are not very familiar with the topic.

    It’s also one article written by someone not very familiar with the topic.

    I’ll focus more on self-development content that for a broader, mostly male audience.

    Why not try placing your articles on established sites first before attempting to monetize your work? There are any number of sites like “Return of Kings”, “A Voice for Men:, “The Art of Manliness”, and others which need daily content and will purchase it from damn near anyone. By working as a copywriter first, you could learn what type of articles draw the most readers, how to write better articles, how to edit your work, and other things about the business of blogging.

    You’re only in this to make money so you should take it seriously enough to learn what to do before trying to do it.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #631137
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    You say that MGTOW is not a movement, doesn’t have a hierarchy and that it doesn’t have a defined philosophy.

    Of course not.

    MGTOW is simply a definition.

    Men Going Their Own Way do not marry, cohabitate, or procreate, because those three things prevent a Man from Going His Own Way.

    That is all there is to it. There is nothing more. That is not a movement. It is not a hierarchy. It is not a philosophy.

    Claiming MHEB (Men Who Eat Bacon) are a “movement” with a “hierarchy” and a “philosophy” makes about as much sense. None.

    #631224
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    Guns

    Guns aren’t on the table for men in Europe, we’re generally uninterested about guns, some of us view guns even as “unmanly”: there’s the old saying “all men are equal after guns have been introduced” and the subtle implication is that guns are the weapon of the weak.
    In the European equivalent of the English-speaking manosphere it’s all about martial arts and at a lesser extent body building.

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    #631227
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    Why not try placing your articles on established sites first before attempting to monetize your work? There are any number of sites like “Return of Kings”, “A Voice for Men:, “The Art of Manliness”, and others which need daily content and will purchase it from damn near anyone.

    Because it’s not so easy.
    I published two books and a lot of articles on regular newspapers.
    Still, I sent an article to “A Voice For Men” and it’s not going to be published: it’s “too academic” and “too long”.
    Funniest thing is that the article – about female-on-male rape – is “academic” in the first part because it use scientifical proofs and academic-reasoning, but in the second part it attacks feminists (and specifically Mary Koss) in a R-E-A-L-L-Y harsh way.
    They prefer tabloid-like, shorter, mostly unsubstantiated articles: the problem with such approach is that since your arguments are childish and weak, then at the end of the article you cannot point your finger and make precise accusations.

    “A Voice For Men” do not purchase articles here, it’s unpaid volunteering.

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    #631521
    OldBill
    OldBill
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    Because it’s not so easy.

    It’s not easy because you’re not doing it right, Eric. You wrote a documented and academic piece only to try and pitch it an outlet which prefers Cliff Notes and Readers’ Digest style pieces.

    AVFM knows their readers specifically want and knows what blog readers generally want. Your piece was too long and and too dense for that market. Please note the phrase “for that market”.

    If you want to successfully write copy for blogs you need to take AVFM editorial advice and rewrite the piece. Again, pleas note the phrase “for blogs”.

    If you don’t want to rewrite the piece, you need to pitch it to another outlet with different standards.

    That’s my advice to our latest huckster. If Heraclius is serious about grinding a buck out of MGTOW, neo-masculinity, and the rest of the manosphere, he needs to write pieces people will read and editors will buy. You don’t do that by accident or happenstance. You need to learn how to do that. Hence my suggestion that he try and place pieces on other blogs first to develop the skills necessary.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #631582
    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    Guns aren’t on the table for men in Europe, we’re generally uninterested about guns, some of us view guns even as “unmanly”

    Queue the muslim invasion.

    #631635
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    Guns aren’t on the table for men in Europe, we’re generally uninterested about guns, some of us view guns even as “unmanly”

    Queue the muslim invasion.

    Having muslims with guns wouldn’t be a good thing, indeed.
    Fire against muslims, and you’ll end up in prison.
    Beat the crap out of a muslim (just only when and if he deserve it) and nothing happen…

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    #631640
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    35837

    Having muslims with guns wouldn’t be a good thing, indeed.

    The thing about that is it’s not up to you. You’re not going to stop them from getting them.

    Fire against muslims, and you’ll end up in prison.

    Imprisoned by a government that knows it can do as it pleases with you, and there’s nothing you will ever be able to do about it.

    It’s not about shooting muslims. It’s about having a government that knows with a certainty the people like you will never be able to turn on it. So it can bring in whatever it wants.

    Beat the crap out of a muslim (just only when and if he deserve it) and nothing happen…

    …only until enough of them show up. With guns.

    Wait and see.

    #631656
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    12043

    …only until enough of them show up. With guns.

    Wait and see.

    In such case I’m going to officially convert, I don’t see what is the problem with guns: even if they would be without guns, the problem is the “enough of them”…

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    #631676
    OldBill
    OldBill
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    …only until enough of them show up. With guns.

    I, for one, cannot wait for gun smuggling to start in Europe because they only ones wanting the smuggled guns will be the ones who “smuggled” themselves into Europe in the first place.

    It’s going to be deliciously ugly and a huge wake-up call from the fantasy world most of Europe has enjoyed since WW2.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #631715
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    …only until enough of them show up. With guns.

    I, for one, cannot wait for gun smuggling to start in Europe because they only ones wanting the smuggled guns will be the ones who “smuggled” themselves into Europe in the first place.

    It’s going to be deliciously ugly and a huge wake-up call from the fantasy world most of Europe has enjoyed since WW2.

    The problem of immigration is unrelated with guns: Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, are dealing with immigration, they’re rejecting immigration (particularly the first three, but even Czech Republic is doing more compared to the rest of Europe), and they all have gun control, even more: Poland and Hungary gun control laws are the stricter in Europe.

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    #631718
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    35837

    The problem of immigration is unrelated with guns

    The muslim invasion is not the problem. It’s just a symptom.

    The problem is the naked contempt your governments have for you, their subjects.

    And that has everything to do with guns.

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