My Article On MGTOW

[HeracliusParticipant 57]

What’s up guys?

I’ve just started a small website that will focus on self development in different areas – fitness, health, lifestyle etc.

I will be sharing a lot of useful tips and tricks.

Just wrote an article on MGTOW, an overview for the uninitiated, but I think it’s a fun read so feel free to check it out:

http://selfmastered.com/2017/10/14/mgtow-way-go/

I’d like to hear what you think – about the style of writing and whether you agree or disagree on certain points.

Also, here is my FB page if you’d like to join:

https://www.facebook.com/Self-Mastered-235898010190658/?hc_ref=ARSgG03uD20U46KQ4r5WIq6HZ3PSDUrJ2P6brx3XKkI25CKcT6fYH7hPd7MbxQKmMUU&fref=nf

P.S. I’m not sure if there is any policy against sharing personal content like this. If there is, my apologies.

[Anonymous 14]

Plug?

[HeracliusParticipant 57]

I’m not making any money from this (yet). Just started writing articles today.

[OldBillParticipant]

Heraclius wrote:

here is my FB page

Facebook? Really? And you claim to be a man going his own way?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 14]

Old Bill, contact me if able. My pm’s are at max fwiw.

[Anonymous 0]

Real Men Going Thier Own Way don’t have Facebook.

It’s for wimminnn and Betas.

Good luck getting any of us to read any of your S***…

Never Marry!!!

[AttonParticipant]

Hopefully you can make some money from this stuff.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MonkParticipant 17038]

Facebook. ‘Not making any money from it yet’. MGTOW is a movement that needs to be explained.

Hmm.

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

Heraclius wrote:

What’s up guys?

I’ve just started a small website that will focus on self development in different areas – fitness, health, lifestyle etc.

I will be sharing a lot of useful tips and tricks.

Just wrote an article on MGTOW, an overview for the uninitiated, but I think it’s a fun read so feel free to check it out:

Is MGTOW The Way To Go? Explaining The Movement

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I’d like to hear what you think – about the style of writing and whether you agree or disagree on certain points.

Also, here is my FB page if you’d like to join:

https://www.facebook.com/Self-Mastered-235898010190658/?hc_ref=ARSgG03uD20U46KQ4r5WIq6HZ3PSDUrJ2P6brx3XKkI25CKcT6fYH7hPd7MbxQKmMUU&fref=nf

P.S. I’m not sure if there is any policy against sharing personal content like this. If there is, my apologies.

Thanks for the information. I want to encourage you in your efforts. I am sure there were many ASSHOLES who degraded and discouraged Keymaster with disparaging remarks when he first started MGTOW.com. And look at the fruit that it has produced!!!

God bless, Michael

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

I skimmed your articles. Agreeable content, but I would definitely rank you purple pill…

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[Anonymous 0]

Heraclius wrote:

Just wrote an article on MGTOW, an overview for the uninitiated, but I think it’s a fun read so feel free to check it out:

Is MGTOW The Way To Go? Explaining The Movement

I’d like to hear what you think – about the style of writing and whether you agree or disagree on certain points.

Good article.

One passage I saw where you’ll get some push-back from MGTOW folks:

I consider myself to be a MGTOW. However, I don’t agree with hardline MGTOWs who say that all women are backstabbing leeches. I believe that there is a significant minority of NAWALTs that are worthy of stepping into a meaningful relationship with. But that doesn’t negate the fact that one can still take half of your stuff with the current laws that are in place, which kind of negates that point.

My real point is that, although the MGTOW critique of female nature is spot on, every person has free will and a moral compass that they exercise with every decision. I know plenty of women who’ve acted kindly and justly throughout their life and they are indeed NAWALTs.

Bascially the MGTOW argument is that there might be some NAWALTs out there (maybe 20% of all women), but once you marry them a good chunk of them are eventually going to turn into AWALTs when they get tired of the marriage and calculate how much of your joint money and property she can walk away with. So in the end, you might as well treat all women as AWALTs, because the chances of your ending up with a NAWALT who remains a NAWALT-for-life is so tiny.

Anyway, that’s the thinking as I’ve seen it described. You kind of said the same thing, but you only said it at the end of the first paragraph as an afterthought. But in MGTOW, that point is the central point of NAWALT: The marriage inequity in favor of women turns NAWALTs into AWALTs on a regular basis, making it damned near impossible to find a true NAWALT-for-life. So as long as marriage is in the picture, you might as well just call them all AWALTS.

Now if you take marriage out of the picture, then it becomes a different situation. Then I expect you can talk about that 20% of NAWALTs as truly being NAWALTs (as long as you don’t marry them).

If you want an interesting video on this very subject, try the video linked at the bottom of my post. It’s a video done by Paul Elam, an MRA (and kind of a hater of MGTOW). He says that NAWALTs represent about 20% of women, and that it’s reasonable to want to seek them out. He talks about how to tell the AWALTS and NAWALTs apart. And he warns that you have to be ready to dump your NAWALT the second she starts showing signs of turning into an AWALT.

I figured I would point out the Elam video to you, given what you said about AWALTs and NAWALTs. Even though Elam isn’t a friend of MGTOW, he spells out the situation pretty good.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1-wP3jyc8M for part 1

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDdyGMfZnys for part 2

[joetechParticipant]

MGTOW isn’t a movement, it’s a mindset. A movement is something that happens when I go to the bathroom.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 0]

“MGTOW isn’t a movement, it’s a mindset. A movement is something that happens when I go to the bathroom.”
– joetech

Truth!!!

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

joetech wrote:

MGTOW isn’t a movement, it’s a mindset. A movement is something that happens when I go to the bathroom.

When I read the word movement I was about to post the above glad someone beat me to it.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

Now if you take marriage out of the picture, then it becomes a different situation. Then I expect you can talk about that 20% of NAWALTs as truly being NAWALTs (as long as you don’t marry them)

I just found out that Paul Elam did some new videos on what it takes to have a NAWALT relationship. He says that people shouldn’t go MGTOW; they should keep hunting for NAWALTs. But at the same time, he admits that a true NAWALT relationship is next to impossible to maintain for any length of time and takes a huge amount of effort and self-discipline.

The videos are worth watching. Frankly, I would rather go MGTOW myself. His NAWALT relationships sound like way too much work, and they involve kicking women to the curb right and left. But you can check the videos out and judge for yourself whether you think he’s right or not.

Here is a quick breakdown of the contents of the three videos; links are at the bottom.

Part 1: Don’t fall for romantic/chivalric/gynocentric love (infatuation, attraction). Instead, you need to establish red-pill love (mutual respect/affection and negotiation of equality)

Part 2: Never marry, share finances, or co-habitate in a way that will give her legal power: It tempts the woman to go AWALT. Screen out AWALTs (90% of females); accept only NAWALTs (10% of females). Set red-pill rules and make sure she respects them. Kick her to the curb if she doesn’t.

Part 3: Always be training your NAWALT to live by red-pill rules in order to make sure she remains NAWALT. Because NAWALTs tend to turn into gynocentric AWALTs if left to drift on their own. The overall culture is gynocentric, so sooner or later all women tend that way.

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNvyGOaGig
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKsZGT6IU98
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioI5j4ASZEE

[DocParticipant]

AWALTS, NAWALTS. Who really cares?

Walking away makes the above irrelevant.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[bagsofsandParticipant 1391]

Doc wrote:

AWALTS, NAWALTS. Who really cares?

Walking away makes the above irrelevant.

Exactly. I’m NOT going to spend all my time, effort, energy and money to search and hunt for mythical NAWALTS.

If the NAWALT finds ME (as I AM THE F~~~ING PRICE! I know, hard to believe in this gynocentric society), great, – if not, she can stay the hell away and let all the thirsty, desperate chumps fight over her.

[Anonymous 0]

Just breaking it down for the purple pill folks.

Paul Elam spells it out quite well. According to him, a relationship with a NAWALT takes a hell of a lot of work. I don’t think most purple pill guys realize what a chore it is. I don’t think most purple pill guys realize how easy it is to stumble and fall into the same old gynocentric blue-pill traps as everyone else.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

There is no movement.
There is no movement.

I do not belong to any movement.

MGTOW can’t be explained, not my MGTOW. You kung fu is not my kung fu. 🥋

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Good article, not perfect but still very good.

My apologies to brother Heraclius for having briefly suspected about him when he began his activity in this site.

About NAWALT: your reasoning is perfect, it’s a combo of both.
Women worth having a relationship are a minority: esteems varies.
My idea is that they’re about 1-in-13, that’s between 7.5% and 8% women.
Then add to that that if you’re going to get in a marriage contract, that’s for life, and people change through years, and that our society incentives women to divorce and take away men’s stuff when they’re bored. To be fair, with a woman like the above 7.5%-8% this isn’t very likely to happen, even if they change through time, but still it can happen even with them. But even if you’re able to identify the top 7.5%-8% women then you can NOT know if they are going to change throuh years, that’s impossible to know.

So, it’s probably 7.5%-8% women who are worth living together at the beginning of the relationship, and also after a while.
Being optimistic and excluding a 25% of them who are going to change through time, then the percentages are reduced to 5.6%-6%: that is about 1-in-17 women.

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