Mid 30's males – strange phenomenon I've noticed.

[QuellParticipant 2538]

I too suffer from bouts of depression that have seemed to have lasted for years. I’ve thought about anti-depressants but have never pulled the trigger. It is this feeling of lethargy. Consequently, I’ve had trouble sleeping and would wake up almost every night. Day in and day out I experienced low energy, like a brain fog and was constantly analyzing my life and how to make it better.

Then I realized that I was fighting this battle internally. I wanted to win at life and it was really really hard. I was running myself ragged trying to find my unicorn or do well at work. I wanted everyone to like me and accept me. I have a physical disability so I developed this mentality at a young age of trying to work harder than everyone else. All that does is make you less transparent as you hind behind a false sense of confidence. Sure I’ve had some great person triumphs but at what cost?

At some point in the past year I’ve learned to manage my expectations and just be myself. Nobody cares if I win or not at the game of life. I’m not some hero for disabled people. I have tried to accept that I have done everything that is in my power and that is good enough. I can rest easier now as I’m only here to enjoy what time I have and to take things slower. When I let go of my expectations my mental state began to improve. I could feel this nervous energy start to leave my head and I started to feel better.

I hope you too find your sense of peace. It’s a journey brother and we are all here to help you.

[Anonymous 1]

I can’t say I’m immune to the depression in my late 30s and (now) early 40s.

Doesn’t help that all my friends are/were blue-pill and have gotten married and/or have started s~~~ting kids, hence I have no more friends (their wives’ choice, not mine).

[cj023Participant 723]

Dude… It’s obvious what the problem is, it’s your friends.. I had the same issue with family I had to cut them off, I thought I had a problem with alcohol too.

But cut the chord, what helped with my depression was working out. I mean it… try a challenge 100 push ups a day for 30 days etc.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Here is my take on it…

Ancient man evolved into into three archetypes, in this order: Hunter, Warrior, Explorer. Look inward at your instincts and personality, and you may find that you fit into one of those three categories (even if you never exhibit those traits). Modern society crushes down many of those traits by it’s nature alone. However it is the over 50 years of emasculation, that has crushed down the other half of our instincts. Essentially men are slaves in the new plantation system, never being able to leave the master’s property is enough to drive any “real man” crazy.

Sovereignty above all else.

[BraceParticipant 467]

old bill Keymaster advice is golden.
honestly Everyone addition in this thread is amazing. that’s what I love about mgtow forum, intelligent and deep thinking people coming together in one place and giving gold advice about life.
I’m not in the same age bracket as you, I’m in my late 20s but just a couple of years ago I was extremely depressed with daily suicidal thoughts, I think it was mostly related to what my country was going through, losing close relatives that are my age to the conflict and just having all my future plans shatter to pieces.

I’m basically going to repeat what others are saying but here it goes.

– write down a list of goals to achieve within a 10 year period . anything u want to achieve either for urself or to help others. look at it everyday have it in ur wallet and if u have no goals then u’ll never feel ur life has meaning.

-get physical on a daily basis, lose weight, go to the gym, bulk up. it may sound stupid but exercising on a daily basis release endorphins and gives u hopes toward achieving ur goals.

– learn a new language, get some courses, join a school twice a week, or even through an app this will open up new opportunities for you to meet people and expand ur horizons.

– talk to old guys, hang out with them. to be honest the single most obstacle that prevented me from killing myself was all the wisdom I accumulated from hanging out with old people 60 years and older, they tought me to be patient and how life is like a ECG heart monitor, ups and downs and thats what makes it worth living.

– you must develop a hobby. you already got photography going so thats great. for me is PC gaming, I’ve met alot of good friends through this hubby gaming online, it’s amazing how many people one meet from all over the world just by indulging in common activities.

– lastly you really have to appreciate what you have. from reading the thread I understand that u are a British citizen, I know it’s expensive living in the West but u have no idea what people around here are willing to do to have such strong passport and citizenship, including me.
ur citizenship allow u free access to most of the world nations! I have British relatives and u know when they visit here, they are treated like kings! lol. it’s a real struggle to have to apply for visas and get rejected after waiting 3 months for no apparent reason! and no explanation! u don’t have to go through that.

what I’m trying to say is that look at the good things in ur life and yes like others said u’ll have to cut lose those friends who are keeping u down, change is hard, but it’s worth it to achieve a healthy life. but most people would rather keep u down with them so that they feel good about their state. but if u take the step to change ur life for the better, this in turn could motivate them to do the same thing as well.

I wish u the best, as someone who was depressed I can only tell u that times change, things don’t just remain in one state and just knowing that one can’t feel depressed anymore. Since augest 2016 my life has taken an unexpected turn for the better. out of nowhere I didn’t expect it to happen. and ever since hope found it’s way back into my life
another thing that made me happy about my life is going MGTOW. since I no longer hold myself value and worth to what women want in me and so I’m confident in my abilities based on my own standards. which ironically makes you a chick magnet not that it matters but still worth mentioning.

also try to go out in nature as much as possible, in the wild parks, green and sun. I currently live in the city and I hate it. but I let the sun touches my skin as often as I could, a friend of mine developed depression when he was doing his masters in alasaka and he started seeing a psychiatrist. he told him to get sun rays as much as he could and if he couldn’t then to install natural light lamps inside his home and light them up during the day. and so he did and it helped him alot. I remember in my visits to UK it was cloudy most of the time so that could be a contributing factor!

I hope what I said can at least make u see things differently. I wish u the best life has to offer brother.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

About seven billion people on the planet.

And on any day, about one billion would love to trade places with me due to the poverty they live in and their circumstances as a result of political oppression, no hope and standard of living.

Making any problems that I think I have or my life not being perfect seem like not a big deal.

[BraceParticipant 467]

Sky-O wrote:

About seven billion people on the planet.

And on any day, about one billion would love to trade places with me due to the poverty they live in and their circumstances as a result of political oppression, no hope and standard of living.

Making any problems that I think I have or my life not being perfect seem like not a big deal.

indeed, and even though I don’t live in a western country. when I go to bed at night. I can’t help but think that someone somewhere is unable to have a bed to sleep on, in safety, quietness and knowing that everything will be ok the next morning. just thinking about that makes me thankful that at least I’m safe and I have a bed to sleep on. that others in india, iraq, syria or bangaladish would kill to have. sometimes we forget how good we have it cuz we get used to having it.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Look for professional help

You mean… the psychology profession? The Psychology profession was targeted by the commies a LONG time ago, and they are the crazies now.

There is no help, because there is no problem. There are no problems in your life so you are depressed? How can you solve such a problem? Think about it. It is a problem of the mind – the ego. So really, take Eckhart tolle red pills (watch the video MGTOW_mike posted) everyday and probably that is the path to a solution.

Going to psychologists is the path to state-sponsored gynocentricsm. I don’t understand the advice given above.

I have known alcholoics and drug addicts. There is no way out from these drugs. STOP them immediately. Social drinking is fine, but don’t abuse. You are too valuable for that. Please, do NOT go down that path. You will destroy your brain cells. Watch videos on how drugs affect the brain – the brain cannot be repaired after cocaine use.

Jordan Maxwell says if you are going to search for truth in this world, you are going to lose all your friends and family, and will be ostracized by society. That is the burden of knowing the truth. No need for drugs. Just keep learning.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

cj023 wrote:

Dude… It’s obvious what the problem is, it’s your friends.. I had the same issue with family I had to cut them off, I thought I had a problem with alcohol too.

But cut the chord, what helped with my depression was working out. I mean it… try a challenge 100 push ups a day for 30 days etc.

Great advice. A decade ago, a friend once said to me, “Sandals, you are hanging out with a loser. That friend you are always with, he is a loser. You are not a loser. But if you hang out with him, you will become a loser. If you hang out with losers, you become a loser. If you hang out with winners, you become a winner. If you hang out with people with money, you end up with money.”

Well, I kept hanging out with the loser. And guess what, I became a loser – suffered greatly for it. The loser friend eventually moved to another state, and I was withdrawn enough to see the big picture. Got my s~~~ together. Thanks to my other friend for loving me enough to warn me and tell me the truth.

[Anonymous 3]

Sandals wrote:

cj023 wrote:

Dude… It’s obvious what the problem is, it’s your friends.. I had the same issue with family I had to cut them off, I thought I had a problem with alcohol too.

But cut the chord, what helped with my depression was working out. I mean it… try a challenge 100 push ups a day for 30 days etc.

Great advice. A decade ago, a friend once said to me, “Sandals, you are hanging out with a loser. That friend you are always with, he is a loser. You are not a loser. But if you hang out with him, you will become a loser. If you hang out with losers, you become a loser. If you hang out with winners, you become a winner. If you hang out with people with money, you end up with money.”

Well, I kept hanging out with the loser. And guess what, I became a loser – suffered greatly for it. The loser friend eventually moved to another state, and I was withdrawn enough to see the big picture. Got my s~~~ together. Thanks to my other friend for loving me enough to warn me and tell me the truth.

There’s also a corollary, sleep with trash, you get up with fleas and become trash yourself.

Most women chase after and lay with human garbage. I refuse to touch a woman that has interacted with a piece of garbage. Surprise surprise, I have no desire to interact with the vast majority of Western women. AWALT around the world, but Western women are a particular level of trash all of their own.

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