MGTOWphilosopher already made a YouTube video

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Yeah TFM just efficiently destroyed him with proof so I think he’ll sink into obscurity now.

[Anonymous 11]

Gee, TFM was attacked too using basically the same tactics used on us. There is not much MGTOW/red pill at all coming from this agitator.

I stand with TFM.

His motive may be to become the YouTube hub for MGTOW bashing.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

I just saw this thread. Here’s a little inside information.

“MGTOW Philosopher” just joined the site and he hadn’t even verified his email yet, uploaded an avatar, or logged in ONCE. I know this because the “display name” is not set until the member verifies his email and logs in.

I just visited his profile and his display name is now set.

Here is our first email to him about 30 minutes ago in response to his email at 4:44 AM.

———————–

Hello and good evening and thanks very much.
It doesn’t look like you activated your account or uploaded an avatar yet.

This lets us know you verified and logged-in successfully at least once.
We’ll be happy to give you extra privs but first you need to activate yourself and let us know when you have.

We will also make you a forums participant.
Thank you – and especially for joining and introducing yourself.

(Excuse our delayed reply we have been swamped. )

M G T O W . C O M
Men Going Their Own Way

———————–

I jus sent that about 1/2 an hour ago.
Then I see this thread! I can’t believe my eyes!

Then at 7:50PM tonight he writes another email waiting in the queue “I’m going to leave your forum. I would have thought that your forum would welcome well know content producers from other platforms, but apparently not. . . . .” and produces a video “MGTOW Forums sucks”???

That’s f~~~ing hilarious.

Hey “MGTOW Philosopher” you don’t mind if we take a goddam Sunday off, do you? Even though it’s Sunday, we STILL got back to you. We even broadcast to every member that we’re scrambling to get back to everyone.

This is complete bulls~~~.

Bloody Heartland wrote:

Sounds like intellectual dishonesty…deliberately playing victim to get attention. He may think he’s MGTOW, or whatever he wants, but this is a pretty disingenuous way to go about it.

He’s one of those complete dicks that just wants to have a problem.

These kinds of people don’t come here to contribute. They come here to promote. They come here to USE your site as a platform to get clicks and cash. fk them! They’re users. They don’t care about MGTOW. They’re riding the youtube bandwagon at the expense of the MGTOW philosophy. Remember how everyone was creaming in their pants when Tom Leykis showed up? What did he do? He promoted his show and his app, and disappeared. This guy wouldn’t have been any different.

[OldBillParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

He’s a liar. He never even logged into his account or verified his email. No way OlBill and he had any kind of exchange here whatsoever.

Here’s the thread in question, Key:

/forums/topic/men-should-jump-through-hoops-says-feminst/#post-602091

I’m not even going to pretend to understand what happened or what he think happened. All I know is pheonixgod1995 had earlier linked to a video and MGTOWphilosopher then linked to the same video. I saw the duplicated topic – thanks to the exact same title used for both – posted the usual disclaimer, and he went right off the deep end.

Apparently the video was from his channel and he somehow thought pheonixgo1995 had “stolen” it. He also seemed to think i was telling him he couldn’t post the video when all I was doing was reporting a duplicated topic.

Anyway, you can read his replies which get really weird really fast. You can watch his “reply” video which tells a story that bears no resemblance to any reality I’m familiar with.

About the only aspect of all of this that I can somewhat understand is that he makes money from his videos. I don’t know if YouTube is paying him as they’ve demonetized a lot of content which doesn’t meet their SJW standards, but I do know he has a Patreon account. Maybe he thought we’d “stolen” his work and thus were somehow threatening his donation stream. Beats me.

All I know is that the entire episode completed my Weird Encounters bingo card.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

This forum confused him. It is unique. A free flowing work in process that doesn’t resemble anything standard.

The term forum confused him. He thought it functioned like a…forum. like how YouPuke works with a head cheese and controls and rules. His channel consists of “subscribers” that are thumbs up to him, etc.

After posting on here he thought he was being followed and troll’d. He couldn’t figure out who was in charge. It was like he was an alien and had landed on a foreign planet. He didn’t understand blow back from avatars. People were uncontrolled and voicing their opinions. Etc.

Your site is marvellous. A person can’t just walk into it without researching how it functions.

You are way to busy to spend your time going over the paths. Here’s a synopsis.

1. He posted an introduction.
1a: Result: accusations that he was tuna and used car salesman.
1b: He got defensive and butthurt.
1c: we researched him and found out he had YouTube channel and was a man. Verified. People tried to chill him and help him but he would not wait or step away and take a breath.

2: he posted one of his videos as a link to prove <whatever>.
2a: he didn’t link it properly and folks tried to help.
2b: he just happened to link a video of his (1 In a million epic homerun) that Phoenix had posted and linked. We were actively discussing it.
2c: Bill pasted his standard duplicate post to inform everyone, etc
2d: it went downhill into a thermal nuclear crater.
3: I went to his channel and wow, he had already posted a rant on it. No more than an hour later.
3a: I created this post.

The funny part is that you didn’t even notice a tremor in the universe…

Peace brothers

[Anonymous 14]

So, just checked his response to my comment on his Youtube video, and instead of taking into consideration anything I had to say he just continued to lay 100% of the blame on us. This clown is a pro at playing the victim card.

I suggest we ban all future links to his material if possible, or at the very least be vocal in leading a boycott in threads that have anything of his in it. This guy is not even worth having a back and forth with, it is like arguing with a woman, there is nothing there. Zero ability to see any faults of his own.

F~~~ this guy.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Anonymous wrote:

So, just checked his response to my comment on his Youtube video, and instead of taking into consideration anything I had to say he just continued to lay 100% of the blame on us. This clown is a pro at playing the victim card.

I suggest we ban all future links to his material if possible, or at the very least be vocal in leading a boycott in threads that have anything of his in it. This guy is not even worth have a back and forth with, it is like arguing with a woman, there is nothing there.

F~~~ this guy.

No need to expend the energy. NFG – I always vote to do nothing.

He’s just a Yorker. At work we refer to them as porcupines. They are good to keep on your friendly side but if they thorn up just leave them be. A few minutes later they will have a new target.

His biggest complaint is that xyz doesn’t respond to him fast enough. He doesn’t understand that he is the problem. Warp speed causes crashes. He is just confused. Poor soul.

Peace brothers

[Anonymous 1]

The MGTOW philosophizer has left the building.

His behaviour on here reminds me of some washed up ex celeb, throwing some ‘bouncing back’ party and no c~~~ turns up.

[Anonymous 11]

DorkShit wrote:

1a: Result: accusations that he was tuna and used car salesman

I was called a tuna on my introduction due to my handle indicating a possible feminist troll.

Me no get butthurt. Me fight back and win respect.

He is a used car salesman and a drama queen. There is a reason we don’t let things run at NYC speed here.

[OldBillParticipant]

DorkShit wrote:

No need to expend the energy. NFG – I always vote to do nothing.

That’s the best and wisest course of action.

After watching his complaint video I was tempted for a few seconds to post a link to the thread in question so his follows could read it for themselves. Then sanity prevailed.

His opinions hold no weight for me and I won’t give him “free rent in my head”, so why should I bother?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

OldBill wrote:

His opinions hold no weight for me and I won’t give him “free rent in my head”, so why should I bother?

Good call friend!

I unsubscribed to him. I never watched his s~~~ anyway XD

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 1]

Very odd, once again, someone who comes to the site and offers nothing receives an unusual amount of upvotes.

Noticing this more and more now.

I can only assume this site is now continuously monitored by c~~~s who are seeking to +1 any pleb who might be here to cause problems.

This is definitely a new thing.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I can only assume this site is now continuously monitored by c~~~s who are seeking to +1 any pleb who might be here to cause problems.

It’s called “brigading” and it’s a huge problem for sites like Reddit and Voat.

Because a post’s overall rating determines whether it’s position within a thread an even whether it’s seen or not, “brigades” inimical to a certain Reddit or Voat group’s theme would “down vote” all the messages posted there. For example, first at Reddit and now at Voat, “Fat People Hate” gets waves of “fatties” down voting posts en masse in an attempt to hide as many possible. Opposing sites on Reddit and Voat even recruit people to “brigade” their “enemies”. While that’s against the rules at Reddit, SJW brigades are ignored and others punished.

Here, the +1 stars don’t determine a post’s position or visibility so “brigading” isn’t a problem. It still points, however, to a large number of lurkers who aren’t exactly here to support MGTOW and that the biggest reason why I have suggested sweeping away accounts which never post.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 3]

I must b one naive old man. I just caught on to why a person would have an account & never post. Thats a lurker.
I read just about every post, I star & I post when I feel I can contribute.
Here is my little prophecy : When MGTOW men begin to b ridiculed on mainstream media you will know this tidal wave has become a tsunami.
I am firmly committed to disorganized individuals maintaining connections through this venue. We know what’s going on. No big protest group, just slow but inevitable growth.
MGTOW is the future and the future is NOW!!

[X11Spectator 4520]

Such things are employed by record companies. They buy their own records to drive the record up the charts which then causes air play and subsequent sales.

It is cheaper than traditional promotion eg tours, advertising etc.

Gaming the system much.

Apparently you can pay third world people to create accounts and just give you likes all day long to push you up in the Google search engine.

[OldBillParticipant]

X11 wrote:

Such things are employed by record companies. They buy their own records to drive the record up the charts which then causes air play and subsequent sales.

That practice has evolved with the internet. Among other things, you can buy Twitter followers and Facebook likes. The Wikileaks DNC emails showed that the Clinton campaign was spending hundreds of thousands to do just that in an effort to create a false appearance of popularity.

From what I’ve read, there are 3rd World sweatshops working in certain on-line MMORPGs. Some of those games allow players to produce various items and then sell them to other players. Apparently, these sweat shops have dozens of people not actually playing the game but focused solely on the production angle. They then stockpile whatever it is that is being produced and sell it to actual players via PayPal.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 1]

Creating all that drama will only backfire to his channel, once he is discrdited and proved to be full of s~~~, guys who are not morons will just unsub and stop following him. Well, I was never subbed to him, but if I was I would unsub due to the useless drama and all those lies, there are no reasons to build up all that hate but to try and attract more public.

A sad person for the MGTOW front, well let’s just ignore him.

[Anonymous 1]

OldBill wrote:

X11 wrote:

Such things are employed by record companies. They buy their own records to drive the record up the charts which then causes air play and subsequent sales.

That practice has evolved with the internet. Among other things, you can buy Twitter followers and Facebook likes. The Wikileaks DNC emails showed that the Clinton campaign was spending hundreds of thousands to do just that in an effort to create a false appearance of popularity.

From what I’ve read, there are 3rd World sweatshops working in certain on-line MMORPGs. Some of those games allow players to produce various items and then sell them to other players. Apparently, these sweat shops have dozens of people not actually playing the game but focused solely on the production angle. They then stockpile whatever it is that is being produced and sell it to actual players via PayPal.

I know some crooks profiles on Twitter, one of them has 220000 followers, guess how many likes does he have for his posts? around 3 per post.

You can try to fake it, but only retards will fall for that, fake followers are easy to spot.

[Anonymous 1]

OldBill wrote:

Here, the +1 stars don’t determine a post’s position or visibility so “brigading” isn’t a problem. It still points, however, to a large number of lurkers who aren’t exactly here to support MGTOW and that the biggest reason why I have suggested sweeping away accounts which never post.

I believe this would already have been implemented if we didn’t have so many established members that post infrequently – some after months, sometimes years.

I’ve never run a forum so I can only speculate on how easy it would be to clear out members that have not posted for a certain period of time, whilst also considering how established they are, or how many upvotes they have (not always a good indicator I admit). Seems to me like each account would need to be judged on individual merit, which would be labour intensive.

If we do clear out dormant members, especially those with experience, would we lose their posts and threads? Or would we just disable the account until the member in question asks to be re-activated? Again, this relies on individual merit which would take some work.

I think it’s a lot more complicated than suggested.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’ve never run a forum so I can only speculate on how easy it would be to clear out members that have not posted for a certain period of time…

I have no idea either.

On the one hand, I do know that Keymaster did a huge amount of work to “removing” Stealthy and all his posts from the forum.

On the other hand, placing someone in “spectator” status seems relatively easy. While their posts don’t disappear, their ability to post is gone.

If we do clear out dormant members, especially those with experience, would we lose their posts and threads?

Again, the threads and post belonging to people relegated to spectator status do not disappear.

I think it’s a lot more complicated than suggested.

I think the numbers will make it complicated. Going by Greg and Keymaster’s various posts, we’re looking at roughly between 18,000 and 24,000 “dormant” accounts.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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